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December 09, 2019, 05:16:11 PM
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Maybe you are dreaming of it, nothing true, as you are not talking real things here! You registered 7 months ago and now you want to be Bitcointalk forum moderator! This is a good joke, mate. Even you have a small amount of posts! and merit points? not mentionable! At least try to know how things work here, and be a Sr or Hero member through your good efforts posts and huge support for Bitcoin and crypto! Making jokes/fun posts like this won't help you mate.

Alright Champ

You can ban me for suggesting this but I believe the mod team has some extra fat to cut out.

This forum is negative. Merit or no merit. Hero or no hero. There is too much negativity here.
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December 09, 2019, 05:19:37 PM
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You have not even reached the full member rank yet, I think to become a Moderator you must at least be a reliable member and have a lot of contributions on the forum. You have 210 posts but only 13 merit, which proves that the majority of your posts do not contribute much.
Perhaps you should become a legendary member before you intend to race for Moderator.


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December 09, 2019, 05:55:35 PM
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You have not even reached the full member rank yet, I think to become a Moderator you must at least be a reliable member and have a lot of contributions on the forum. You have 210 posts but only 13 merit, which proves that the majority of your posts do not contribute much.
Perhaps you should become a legendary member before you intend to race for Moderator.
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While the enthusiasm is admirable, you seem to hold a number of misconceptions:

  • You have to have a strong grasp of the rules, forum culture and have a substantial number of good reports under your belt. Considering you've posted this in the wrong section (moved now), I'm gonna say you might have to brush up on that.
  • Being selected as a moderator is not a popularity contest. theymos alone decides who becomes a moderator and he doesn't seem to care much about what the crowd thinks unless it really is a stalemate between several candidates.
  • A moderator can't create new boards / sub-sections. You can only ask theymos or Cyrus for them. Even then, boards are pretty much only created when there's a subset of topics dominating an existing board.
  • Who is going to fund those "contests", "journals" and "specialists". Because I really doubt it's going to be Bitcointalk and you can't really make money off of forum real-estate yourself (e.g. stickying ad threads) to compensate it. You're free to pursue those endeavors personally but in that case you don't need a moderator position.
  • You don't get to change or make policy. You can suggest it to theymos or take certain decisions that further already existing policies but in the end he's the one who has the final word.

As for the negativity, it comes with the territory: the forum's general "free (semi-constructive) speech" attitude mixed with a larger concentration of bullshitters and scammers really puts people on edge and they usually aren't shy in expressing that (me included). The highly competitive nature of crypto doesn't help either.


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December 09, 2019, 11:16:18 PM
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For me, it is ridiculous (somewhat) to see a user with member rank becomes a moderator. I don't offend lower rank users but the rank and the total received merits (that in turn affects their current ranks) are some of good things to glance at their contributions. As being mentioned above by the others, another type of contributions and maybe the most important when admin looks at your application is your report history.

Conbitrutions, reports, trusted, and good understandings on forum rules. Lack one of them or all of them, then there is no probability to become staffs.

AFAIK, the staff who began at low rank is Halab (one of the most recently hired staff, since 2018 maybe), from Full Member rank if I am correct.

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December 09, 2019, 11:28:12 PM
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Expanding on mprep's response. I had roughly 38k good reports at the time I was appointed a moderator of the Altcoin sections, as well as being made a patroller. I turned down the possibility of moderating another section, because I wanted to see how I'd cope. Well, to be honest even though I had a lot of good reports, and thought I had a very good understanding on the forums guidelines. I've found that I've learned quite a lot since being a moderator, and I am still learning to this very day. If you're trying to become a moderator without demonstrating that you understand the forum guidelines through reporting then you'd probably have a very difficult time. As a reporter what seemed a trivial thing to report is totally different coming from a moderators perspective as you need to really look into it. Where as a reporter would simply get a bad report.

Here's a few things I've learned from being a moderator;

- You'll be exposed to external links a lot more often, and will need to consider privacy, and security more than you did before. This is something that I'm currently addressing as we speak. Despite being a staff member for over a year now. I'm not talking about changing your password or password strength, but going as far as changing operating systems. I was a die hard fan of Slackware at first, then moved onto Ubuntu. Recently, I've been looking at securing my system with Qubes to allow isolation when dealing with reports. Well, not the only reason, but certainly a contributing factor.

- You've really got to read the discussion no matter how brain dead it might seem to you or how uninterested you might be. To be able to deal with a report its likely you'll have to get the context that it was posted under.

- I've been reading in depth about inspecting malware, and isolating it as best as you can. Looking at the fairy tale signs of malware when it isn't known to any anti virus database.

Although, I truly do love being a moderator, and contributing to the forum. It certainly isn't for everyone, its a lot of learning. Theymos, offers guidance when you've handled something wrong, and that's pretty much how you learn. Its very much a learning on the job type thing even with good fundamental understanding of the rules. My reporting effectively guide was written when I wasn't a moderator, and I could probably add onto that tenfold from my experience this past year, and I'm still no where near perfect. For example, I've learned that leaving reports unhandled is the best thing to do in certain scenarios where as before I used to assume that was bad, and you needed to handle as many as possible.  

I think the barrier for becoming a moderator in the first place (although definitely not the only criteria) reporting a lot of posts definitely shows if you've got what it takes, because that can become a thankless task. I do remember though, and I will always remember this. Cyrus messaged me one day after busting a few accounts. He thanked me, and said to keep it up. I try, and do this to regular reporters to as I know that can sometimes be the difference in keeping this forum clean.

All of this learning has eaten into personal time, as well as time I could have been handling reports. Ultimately, I believe at the end it'll be worth it to handle reports more accurately so there's no cleaning up after me from theymos or any other moderator, but this is the sort of sacrifices all the moderators have done, and if you truly want to contribute to the forum through becoming a moderator then you've got to be willing to put in the often thankless task of reporting, and be prepared for a lot of learning ahead of you.

Us moderators never say no to more reporters though Wink

For me, it is ridiculous (somewhat) to see a user with member rank becomes a moderator. I don't offend lower rank users but the rank and the total received merits (that in turn affects their current ranks) are some of good things to glance at their contributions. As being mentioned above by the others, another type of contributions and maybe the most important when admin looks at your application is your report history.

Conbitrutions, reports, trusted. Lack one of them or all of them, then there is no probability to become staffs.

AFAIK, the staff who began at low rank is Halab (one of the most recently hired staff, since 2018 maybe), from Full Member rank if I am correct.
It is true that fairly low ranked users have become staff members before. However, I'd assume that's through demonstrating their understanding of the forum guidelines, and work ethic through reporting.

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@Welsh, how many hours do you usually spend handling reports and discussions on Bitcointalk a day?

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Being able to identify a problem doesn't mean you've to fix it yourself. If you feel that the trading discussion board needs cleaning up, then you can dedicate your time to it and report spam and low-value posts, there would be no reward for this service other than contributing to the success of the forum and possible reporter badges if it gets implemented.
You can also request for a sub forum without being a moderator, you just need to prove the necessity of the new section.





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AFAIK, the staff who began at low rank is Halab (one of the most recently hired staff, since 2018 maybe), from Full Member rank if I am correct.

I was just a member at the time (with the same number of merits as the OP), but for local sections the requirements are probably lower.

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December 10, 2019, 03:18:46 PM
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@Welsh, how many hours do you usually spend handling reports and discussions on Bitcointalk a day?

No idea. Varies as I have a full time job, part time education, and on call for mountain rescue 24/7 so it gets interrupted, and because of those reasons its hard to monitor the hours. Although, in the new year I should have a little more time! I'd say a couple of hours, but a lot of that is also posting here. Reports are something I do when I need a break from work.

When I was reporting I was spending probably 4-6 hours a day. I'd like to see a return of these hours during christmas break, and continue that into the new year.

There's far more active staff members than me. The global moderators are killing it.

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AFAIK, the staff who began at low rank is Halab (one of the most recently hired staff, since 2018 maybe), from Full Member rank if I am correct.

I was just a member at the time (with the same number of merits as the OP), but for local sections the requirements are probably lower.
Thanks for correcting me. Maybe when I saw you as a staff, you were a Full member. I did not know you before that day so maybe I missed your first day as a staff and correspondent rank (member as you disclosed).

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December 11, 2019, 07:41:38 AM
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No idea. Varies as I have a full time job, part time education, and on call for mountain rescue 24/7 so it gets interrupted, and because of those reasons its hard to monitor the hours. Although, in the new year I should have a little more time! I'd say a couple of hours, but a lot of that is also posting here. Reports are something I do when I need a break from work.

When I was reporting I was spending probably 4-6 hours a day. I'd like to see a return of these hours during christmas break, and continue that into the new year.

There's far more active staff members than me. The global moderators are killing it.

Damn, that's one hell of a schedule. And having colleagues being on standby 24/7, I can imagine how much emotional toll it takes on you.

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December 11, 2019, 08:09:16 AM
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You don't have to be a moderator to do that things,just use the report to moderator button then your reports will be handled by that section moderator and also by the global mods.

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Much more to come!
The story is the same as an owl with a lion.
All in the wild know that the lion is the king of the jungle, when the lion is declared king, the owl does not accept it.
Owl, then flew to various parts of the world saying that I was chosen as the king of you all, all beings are silent and surprised, there is one creature asking, isn't the king's lion at this time, then a trial is formed to ascertain who is the current king, the lion or the owl.
Questions were asked to each future king.
To the flagship lion.
Lions, experts in hunting all creatures can be conquered.
Owls, can only hunt at night with sharp eyesight, but it's only rats and fish that he can hunt.

Obviously the lion is the king of the forest.

@Pipdips, this story is almost the same as your current idea, preferably before you offer yourself, as a moderator you understand and learn the elements of clarification below.

Moderator Qualifications

Bitcointalk forum is not a fairy tale that is always devoted to children.

@theymos, certainly knows and who deserves the moderator position, in the trade discussion section, he must have planned it.

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