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December 13, 2019, 04:03:36 PM
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Ethereum is making progress, but the timeline for a full ETH 2.0 release is not coming any closer. According to a recent official blog post, we can expect “potentially many years before a full ‘Ethereum 2.0’ roll-out.”

With the recent Istanbul hard fork update, many in the Ethereum community were enthusiastic about Ethereum 2.0 coming soon. This enthusiasm, however, fails to grasp the complexity of the work the Ethereum developers are undertaking — and it’s going to take them a lot more time.


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It looks like we are waiting not just few years. But many, many, many years! So I'm saying like in 2030?

I knew that the Ethereum and crypto community are waiting for the 2.0 to be launched sooner than later, but that won't be happening.

As the old saying goes, "Rome wasn't built in a day".

Yeah, I know this is kind of an old stuff to say, but I kinda agree with it though. They say that it may take a long while for Ethereum 2.0 to be in full effect.

For crypto enthusiasts out there (especially who are supporters and holders of Ethereum), I know this isn't something you are excited about. However, if you think about long term, that's where we all should be excited.

If I predict right that it'll be going "full force" in 2030, I should be 40+ by that time.

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December 13, 2019, 04:17:04 PM
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"Rome is not built in a day" it is a reality in a long process as well as ethereum of course also requires a process to build everything from the beginning until now and added to the problems that must be resolved include:
1.chain storage
2. Block size and transaction throughput
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and here I feel proud because the team is trying hard to solve it!
BTW as I know in 2020 ETH will release a POS, is that true?

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December 13, 2019, 04:33:01 PM
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Yeah, I know this is kind of an old stuff to say, but I kinda agree with it though. They say that it may take a long while for Ethereum 2.0 to be in full effect.
For crypto enthusiasts out there (especially who are supporters and holders of Ethereum), I know this isn't something you are excited about. However, if you think about long term, that's where we all should be excited.
It is good to see a change in the perception of things, rather than predicting the price of ETH to go off the charts after they release the ETH 2.0 you are coming up with a neutral prediction and it is most probably true as there is nothing that shows that the price of ETH will rally in the next few years and we need more improvements and applications for ETH to be fully utilized and for that it will take time and it is not a cash cow anymore in the short term.
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December 13, 2019, 04:45:13 PM
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If ethereum is to hold the 2.0 to 2030, it would be dead before that. Crypto market is rapidly changing and the ones that are not capable of adopting with the changing preference of the market, they'd be dead.

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December 13, 2019, 04:51:26 PM
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If ethereum is to hold the 2.0 to 2030, it would be dead before that. Crypto market is rapidly changing and the ones that are not capable of adopting with the changing preference of the market, they'd be dead.

That's too long for 2030, Ethereum 2.0 will be released as soon as possible and not for another 10 years, maybe people won't like it anymore.
I myself have not found an article about Ethereum 2.0 when it will be released and it has not been determined exactly and may only be able to wait for market capitalists to increase again.

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December 13, 2019, 05:19:43 PM
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If ethereum is to hold the 2.0 to 2030, it would be dead before that. Crypto market is rapidly changing and the ones that are not capable of adopting with the changing preference of the market, they'd be dead.

That's too long for 2030, Ethereum 2.0 will be released as soon as possible and not for another 10 years, maybe people won't like it anymore.
I myself have not found an article about Ethereum 2.0 when it will be released and it has not been determined exactly and may only be able to wait for market capitalists to increase again.

There's been news of beta testing starting form Jan 2020 and unlike some other utility tokens, Ethereum has a vibrant development community. Though they don't always agree on matters, they are impressive in finding and solving things. Ethereum 2.0 is certainly going to boost the adoption and use of Ethereum.


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December 13, 2019, 05:24:09 PM
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From what I've read Ethereum 2.0 is to be released by 2022 and if no significant problem arises, they should be able to move things to Ethereum 2.0 by than. Still that would not be the ultimate upgrade as more are scheduled as development is a continuous process.
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December 13, 2019, 06:47:29 PM
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Man, believe it or not even if it's launched tomorrow if won't make it even 50% more of where it is now (from price perspective).
The whole market is kind of saturation & waiting for the next BTC Halving that the crypto communities think it's gonna shake it a lil bit & break this ice bear.

ETH 2.0 is crazy when it comes to blockchain innovation & technology, but it will take more time for Ethereum to be that $1k minimum even in the bear market.
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December 13, 2019, 07:09:53 PM
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"Rome is not built in a day" it is a reality in a long process as well as ethereum of course also requires a process to build everything from the beginning until now and added to the problems that must be resolved include:
1.chain storage
2. Block size and transaction throughput
3. status size and network performance
and here I feel proud because the team is trying hard to solve it!
BTW as I know in 2020 ETH will release a POS, is that true?

Yeah that's true they will Launch the POS method on Ethereum with a minimum around 32 Ethereum Need for you to be able to do the POS

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December 13, 2019, 08:08:37 PM
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There are many timelines circulating about ETH 2.0 and we can't be certain when it's going to make a transition completely.
I'm sure that it's going to be in phases and it's not going to happen until and unless they have tested the phase entirely but a release of 2022 should be feasible as they working on it for years.
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December 13, 2019, 08:14:18 PM
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BTW as I know in 2020 ETH will release a POS, is that true?
Yeah, I thought the proof of stake change was being made early next year, and I *thought* it was happening next month actually.  I don't know how long it's going to take for all the changes to roll out, but I'm very much looking forward to being able to stake Eth even tho I don't yet have 32 Eth.  In fact I started a thread about how the staking is going to work last month and nobody seemed to know, and I am very curious about it still.

As long as the staking part happens, I can be patient for the rest of the 2.0 stuff.  The devs want to make sure everything is done right, and that's a good thing in my opinion.
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December 13, 2019, 08:35:43 PM
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"Rome is not built in a day" it is a reality in a long process as well as ethereum of course also requires a process to build everything from the beginning until now and added to the problems that must be resolved include:
1.chain storage
2. Block size and transaction throughput
3. status size and network performance
and here I feel proud because the team is trying hard to solve it!
BTW as I know in 2020 ETH will release a POS, is that true?

Yeah, I read some narrative saying that ETH will undergo Proof of Stake Transition (PoS) that will also take a long time for the Ethereum team to finish. And it also says that it can cause imminent unprofitable for all miners  that can also cause slow transaction on the ethereum ecosystem.
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December 13, 2019, 09:12:11 PM
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I think it is a FUD and it is not going to take that many years, most of major upgrades are coming up in 2020-2021 so most of the upgrades will be completed in next 2 years and then the fine tuning and improvements may continue along the sidelines and that is very normal because every online company, software, app or blockchain network keeps on working to improve their products and services behind the doors.

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December 13, 2019, 09:23:33 PM
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I thought it is a typo when you have said "2030". Isnt it that ETH 2.0 will be launching by next year? if it will take up to 2030, forget about it because there might be a new tech that will emerge and replace it.

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December 13, 2019, 10:07:32 PM
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I think it is a FUD and it is not going to take that many years, most of major upgrades are coming up in 2020-2021 so most of the upgrades will be completed in next 2 years and then the fine tuning and improvements may continue along the sidelines and that is very normal because every online company, software, app or blockchain network keeps on working to improve their products and services behind the doors.

I agree to you dude maybe this is a typo error when they said 2030 this is too long to wait many altcoins project will take advantages if this will happen for too long and infact ethereum already make some move and surely will gives a big announcement in the next 1 to 2 years, improving their product and services is one of the major things thatthe company need todo.

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December 13, 2019, 10:13:43 PM
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I can not give an opinion on the exact date of ETH 2.0. Actually, it is undesirable that some difficulties arise while waiting for next year, but yet I do not think there will be a problem in this regard, some improvements have already been made in the Istanbul hardfork, such as gas efficiency and speed improve. Do not worry, ETH 2.0 will be released until 2030.
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December 13, 2019, 10:41:23 PM
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If ethereum is to hold the 2.0 to 2030, it would be dead before that. Crypto market is rapidly changing and the ones that are not capable of adopting with the changing preference of the market, they'd be dead.
Im not sure if that will be dead but the valuation can go even lower than the current rate of ethereum. But again, the hardfork will come in every year that means the update will always be there. it appears to change the consensus of the ethereum blockchain is something that needs a lot of effort and a good strategy consider ethereum is a very big POW coin right now with so many clients and miners. By changing the consensus to make it better and you need to change all of the structures that already used by ethereum in the POW consensus.

you need to re-structure your blockchain to fit with the POS consensus and that may need a lot of time. That's why people are very optimistic about that when they don't know the difficult part is the implementation. You wanna change the consensus and you need to change everything.

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December 14, 2019, 02:16:54 AM
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"Rome is not built in a day" it is a reality in a long process as well as ethereum of course also requires a process to build everything from the beginning until now and added to the problems that must be resolved include:
1.chain storage
2. Block size and transaction throughput
3. status size and network performance
and here I feel proud because the team is trying hard to solve it!
BTW as I know in 2020 ETH will release a POS, is that true?

Yeah that's true they will Launch the POS method on Ethereum with a minimum around 32 Ethereum Need for you to be able to do the POS
if so, with the requirements we must have 32 ETH to do POS I am sure of the effect on the future price of ETH because of increasing holders and minimizing people to sell it

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December 14, 2019, 06:40:56 AM
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2030 a very long time, I don't think it will take years maybe 1 year is more than enough, but don't understand if it has to be like that we can only respect every decision, but it will damage the trust of the ethereum community that should be released Q1 2020, I think one year is far more enough because the growing market value will make ETH grow faster, just waiting for what's interesting about ETH 2.0

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December 14, 2019, 07:10:43 AM
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Yes I agree I am surprised its taking this long for them to actually roll-out PoS. And right now they have lots of developers and this should of been done years ago. I remember I started to mine ETH in late 2015, bought a bunch of GPUs and in middle 2016, I stopped buying GPUs because it was rumored that it would be full PoS by end of 2016 and its been 3 years since the initial deadline and there is still not PoS in sight.

Feels like a bummer because if it wasn't for me not upgrading my farm, I would of had more ETH to sell in the $1000 area when it hit $1400 back in early 2018, however since I didn't expand for more effcient rigs and hardware I was mining with older GPUs which mined less ETH. And this was back in the days when the ETH hashrate was considered low, basically even with a low ETH price you still could of earned $2/day/GPU. These days its probably like 10% of those figures.

So who knows when it will exactly come out. Most likely it will be some hybrid type of PoS setup.
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