The misused of merit on forum.....

[Legit_Alt+]

Hello community am confused about theway merit are being used in this forum.

The way merit are being given out to some post on this forum is turn abused, how on earth will a single post merit 30+ merit? and must of this post are just simple question or answer. Post are not suppose to be merit more than 2-5 depends on how helpful and relevant the post.

But it now seems many person now buy it even when they don't merit have any. I don't think this was the primary aim of adding merit to this forum. Please let stop abusing merit...

Please what did you think, what is your suggestion on regarding this??

[Oilacris]

On any system neither new or old, there would always be an abused yet people do have different motives in life either they would go to the slow and legit way or to fast and abusing way.

Giving 30 merits on a post which you do saw that it isnt really that worth but for the person who do give out such number of merits might have different views than you so we cant make any conclusions
yet we do have all the rights on using our smerit.If we do find helpful on our side then it depends on how much we do give.

You can always make a report though if you do find out some very seriou and oboviouss merit trading.

[DdmrDdmr]

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Actually, you can award up to 50 sMerits per person per 30 days, so a single post may receive that amount from a single person. I personally have not (I believe) gone over 4 or 5 sMerits per TX, but I’m a bit mean in terms of awarding amounts per post. Others are more generous and/or pressed on time, thus awarding larger amounts (pretty exceptional though to see large sMerit TXs). On some occasions, larger chunks may discretely be awarded to aid the ranking on a person who is nearly on his next rank.

I doubt that there is much sMerit trading going on, at least not in large amounts. Not that many people manage significant amounts nowadays, and there are always people on the lookout. For example, we can see all large sMerit TXs since the 01/11/2019 here (for >= 20 sMerits):
https://public.tableau.com/shared/XMFYK57G9?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link

Most are from @theymos for the art contest. That is an exceptional event though. There stranger ones are normally trying to hide in places such as Ann threads, but there are less of those as time goes by.

[coin-investor]

Hello community am confused about theway merit are being used in this forum.

The way merit are being given out to some post on this forum is turn abused, how on earth will a single post merit 30+ merit? and must of this post are just simple question or answer. Post are not suppose to be merit more than 2-5 depends on how helpful and relevant the post.

But it now seems many person now buy it even when they don't merit have any. I don't think this was the primary aim of adding merit to this forum. Please let stop abusing merit...

Please what did you think, what is your suggestion on regarding this??

Well, you forget to post the link of that post where it generates 30  so we can all see if the post deserves to get 30 merits, honestly, it's hard to get a merit, but I notice that if you create a threat that will give values to all readers, people will give you credit, you just have to give your best shot and hope that people will see the values on your post.

[jets567]

There are lot of factors that involves every time a user received a merit, for example the poster bought it from merit seller, the post is informative, the poster is an alt account and as mention above the user who gave merit see the post as helpful but if you think that some users are abusing the merit system then you open a thread in this section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0 and let other members give their opinions about your report.

[mk4]

Really, the number of merits to give a post is completely subjective. I could see a post that enlightened me so much that I could see the markets in a different way and I could give the dude 50 merits and I would think it's worth it. But again, it completely depends on how informative it actually is. I don't think a typical question should receive at least 5 merits or more(depending on the topic).

In the end, I still see this topic as those typical people crying out that they don't receive enough merits through their posts.

[desticy]

To be honest, I do not understand the point of creating such a topic. If you think that someone is engaged in the purchase or sale of merit, then give strong evidence of this.
You did not cite a single link as an example regarding the things you are talking about.

In addition, why are you looking at others, first of all you need to take care of yourself.
If you need merit, then try to earn it, and not try to convict other forum participants of violations.

[Findingnemo]

Hello community am confused about theway merit are being used in this forum.

The way merit are being given out to some post on this forum is turn abused, how on earth will a single post merit 30+ merit? and must of this post are just simple question or answer. Post are not suppose to be merit more than 2-5 depends on how helpful and relevant the post.

But it now seems many person now buy it even when they don't merit have any. I don't think this was the primary aim of adding merit to this forum. Please let stop abusing merit...

Please what did you think, what is your suggestion on regarding this??

There are no limitations on awarding merit, a single person can give up to 50 per person for a certain period.

You can't find anything perfect in this world which applies to merit system of bitcointalk, if you feel that you are not getting more merits as the one who you are accusing then follow their writing behavior.

Myself speaking : Don't run for merits!

[LbtalkL]

I guess if the post is really deserving it is not an abused of the system anyhow in my personal opinion if I was going to merit somebody if I see he gain more than 100 merits already to his post I won't add anymore I will give it to other deserving persons who need it.

[GreatArkansas]

I guess if the post is really deserving it is not an abused of the system anyhow in my personal opinion if I was going to merit somebody if I see he gain more than 100 merits already to his post I won't add anymore I will give it to other deserving persons who need it.

Agree, and also we can't judge the sender on how many merit he/she will send (unless if it's bought, e.g. buy & sell merits, exchange merit), that's their own sMerits so they can do whatever they want.
That's why there are some insidence about merit, like what the OP said, sending too much merit for a low quality post only, but ended up nothing.

[tbct_mt2]

theymos said ones can send 200 to 300 merits to the others (just an exaggeration) if the others deserve to rank up. He said this in very early weeks after merit system was used in the forum, when people complained about merit sources and merit usages during those days. I remembered that question raised from the merit usages by Question Authority.

I have never seen ones or merit sources send 200 or 300 merits to one user to help ranking up. And as you see above, the maximum merits one can send to another is only 50 merits.

It is so easy to differentiate between right usages and misusages of merits (between legit merit receivers and ones who bought merits). Legit merit receivers earned merits for their good posts. In opposite, the others who bought merits often receive merits with shitposts or very low quality posts. That is not too difficult to realise.

[Legit_Alt+]

I guess if the post is really deserving it is not an abused of the system anyhow in my personal opinion if I was going to merit somebody if I see he gain more than 100 merits already to his post I won't add anymore I will give it to other deserving persons who need it.

Yes, I think you can really see point with me. People make good post that deserves to be merited but once you come across  such post that normally you think it need to be merit but occasionally the post already has a good merit I think no need to add more to it they are more other way to acknowledge a post aside from merit. You can drop a recommendation that will make the poster feel good as well just like those comments above it help the poster know better and give him more understanding about What he/she was taking about because no man knows all whati think is perfect might just be as normal to you. 
Am really glad with different opinions shared in the post and know I have learned something new from it.

[bitmover]

The way merit are being given out to some post on this forum is turn abused, how on earth will a single post merit 30+ merit? and must of this post are just simple question or answer. Post are not suppose to be merit more than 2-5 depends on how helpful and relevant the post.

Well, I agree with you.

I think many posts deserve lots of merits. Sometimes a post really deserves 100 or even 200 merits.

However, I have seen many shitposts receiving 30-50 merits from the same person (and nobody else merited that post, which somehow proves it didn't deserve any merit).

But, life is unfair. This forum is unfair as well, merit system is unfair, cryptocurrency markets are unfair.

Try to live your life with those issues and injustices. Don't let those issues and injustices let you down. Pray to have only small injustices in life like this one you mentioned. Keep walking and, if you deserve, you will receive merits and whatever more you deserve in life.

[Maus0728]

You can't find anything perfect in this world which applies to merit system of bitcointalk, if you feel that you are not getting more merits as the one who you are accusing then follow their writing behavior.

Myself speaking : Don't run for merits!

I cannot agree with you more. I always stalk other peoples previous post to see and study what are their posting behaviour and what specific board they are posting so that I can learn learn based on what they share in the community.

As per my experience, I am receiving merit whether people agrees with my opinion with regards to a specific topic which makes receiving merit from other user to be subjective. And I think merit comes naturally when someone is well informed and educated in a specific topic.

[joniboini]

As per my experience, I am receiving merit whether people agrees with my opinion with regards to a specific topic which makes receiving merit from other user to be subjective. And I think merit comes naturally when someone is well informed and educated in a specific topic.

Which board is this?

If you want to be merited because the depth of your knowledge, maybe try to spend more time on Developments & Technical Discussion. Consider it a challenge.

[Bttzed03]

I guess if the post is really deserving it is not an abused of the system anyhow in my personal opinion if I was going to merit somebody if I see he gain more than 100 merits already to his post I won't add anymore I will give it to other deserving persons who need it.

Yes, I think you can really see point with me. People make good post that deserves to be merited but once you come across  such post that normally you think it need to be merit but occasionally the post already has a good merit I think no need to add more to it they are more other way to acknowledge a post aside from merit.

I get the point but why do you have to base your giving of merits to the number of merits a certain post already received? Why not base it on the quality of the post itself? I know we have our own standard but if You think a post is good, You can always merit it regardless if it has been merited by others or not.

[Juggy777]

Hello community am confused about theway merit are being used in this forum.

The way merit are being given out to some post on this forum is turn abused, how on earth will a single post merit 30+ merit? and must of this post are just simple question or answer. Post are not suppose to be merit more than 2-5 depends on how helpful and relevant the post.

But it now seems many person now buy it even when they don't merit have any. I don't think this was the primary aim of adding merit to this forum. Please let stop abusing merit...

Please what did you think, what is your suggestion on regarding this??

@Legit_Alt+ it would have been nice if you could have quoted some of those posts here, or left the links so we all could have formed a better opinion. In case you yet feel a person is abusing merits hit the report button, or go to the meta section and post there @Theymos and mods will definitely investigate it. Lastly when merits were launched there was no fixed criteria to reward a post, and to be honest it’s extremely difficult to place a guideline of fixed merits hence the ceiling of 50 merits has been kept in place.

[UserU]

On the other hand, there are merit-worthy posts that went unnoticed so I guess that makes the world go round.

I cannot agree with you more. I always stalk other peoples previous post to see and study what are their posting behaviour and what specific board they are posting so that I can learn learn based on what they share in the community.

Based on my observation, those informational (or statistically backed) posts are what people like to see, hence meritable. Along with artworks or some user-generated contents.

Other than that, generally helpful or posts concerning some welfare do receive merits, albeit on a lesser scale.

[pooya87]

Post are not suppose to be merit more than 2-5 depends on how helpful and relevant the post.

actually there supposed to be no rules for how much merit you give away, it is your spendable merit and you can use it however you like.

People make good post that deserves to be merited but once you come across  such post that normally you think it need to be merit but occasionally the post already has a good merit I think no need to add more to it

let me ask you this: when you go on reddit for example and see a post that has a bunch of upvotes, won't you upvote it just because it already has some upvote or will you do it despite that?
that the same with merit. when 10, 20 different users give merit to a post they are showing that they have found the post useful and the amount of merit they give it shows how much they think it was useful.

[Polina_21]

In my opinion, merit should be given based on the quality of a post and how useful and relevant that post is.

• If the post is good and the topic is old and known to everyone then it should be awarded 1-2 merits.
• If the post is new and useful then it should be given 2-3 merits.
• If the post is too good and benefits more users, then it should be given 5 merits and more.

The maximum smerits a person should give to a post should be below 10. Even though if that post deserves more merits than 10, there are many other members who will be giving the merits. So the number of smerits should be equally distributed to the deserving posts.