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December 13, 2019, 08:55:06 PM
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2020 is Good for USA dollar coz debt Will arise and to pay debt u need to have USA dollars.
Just coz of high debt the value of USA dollar Will Go Better.
So the USA dollar Will have Some tremendous growth.
Also the Canada dollar value Will grow 2020.

But USA and Canada stock market Will Not do great.


That's all according to Precirse calculations.
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2020 is Good for USA dollar coz debt Will arise and to pay debt u need to have USA dollars.
Just coz of high debt the value of USA dollar Will Go Better.
So the USA dollar Will have Some tremendous growth.
Also the Canada dollar value Will grow 2020.

But USA and Canada stock market Will Not do great.


That's all according to Precirse calculations.


Most times in an election year the market does really well, but being that we are at alltime highs I can see either a auteur or a large correction coming.  What goes up must come down right.  Putting more money into the market at this point seems like top buying.  Not worth adding any extra into the market.  I'd rather buy when things are brutally red

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December 14, 2019, 02:56:12 AM
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2020 is Good for USA dollar coz debt Will arise and to pay debt u need to have USA dollars.
Just coz of high debt the value of USA dollar Will Go Better.
So the USA dollar Will have Some tremendous growth.
Also the Canada dollar value Will grow 2020.

But USA and Canada stock market Will Not do great.


That's all according to Precirse calculations.


Most times in an election year the market does really well, but being that we are at alltime highs I can see either a auteur or a large correction coming.  What goes up must come down right.  Putting more money into the market at this point seems like top buying.  Not worth adding any extra into the market.  I'd rather buy when things are brutally red

Elections time is spending time. That would inject a good amount of money into the circulating economy. That contributes to high spending which is definitely good.

What I don't understand however is attributing the growth of the value of USD to the rise of debt. How would that be a good thing to the value of USD? Or is it referring to the growth of debt by other countries from the US? That means other countries will have to shift to the USD in order to pay them?

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December 14, 2019, 05:52:54 AM
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2020 is Good for USA dollar coz debt Will arise and to pay debt u need to have USA dollars.
Just coz of high debt the value of USA dollar Will Go Better.
So the USA dollar Will have Some tremendous growth.
Also the Canada dollar value Will grow 2020.

But USA and Canada stock market Will Not do great.


That's all according to Precirse calculations.


Most times in an election year the market does really well, but being that we are at alltime highs I can see either a auteur or a large correction coming.  What goes up must come down right.  Putting more money into the market at this point seems like top buying.  Not worth adding any extra into the market.  I'd rather buy when things are brutally red

Elections time is spending time. That would inject a good amount of money into the circulating economy. That contributes to high spending which is definitely good.

What I don't understand however is attributing the growth of the value of USD to the rise of debt. How would that be a good thing to the value of USD? Or is it referring to the growth of debt by other countries from the US? That means other countries will have to shift to the USD in order to pay them?

If currency is tied with debt this actually gives value to the currency.
Look at britsh pound sterling its highly debted but sterling value is up.
So debt makes Higher demand for that currency to pay Back loans.
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December 14, 2019, 09:40:33 AM
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Most times in an election year the market does really well, but being that we are at alltime highs I can see either a auteur or a large correction coming.  What goes up must come down right.  Putting more money into the market at this point seems like top buying.  Not worth adding any extra into the market.  I'd rather buy when things are brutally red

I agree with your assessment. At this point we should be focusing on protecting gains while also preparing for a stock-market crash to snag assets for cheap. We don't know what the extent of it will be but I think it's prudent to assume it'll happen sooner than later.
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December 14, 2019, 12:07:04 PM
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That's considering the perspective of someone who stands to profit. Not gonna lie, the higher the debt, the more the currency is killing its own economy. Some of the most simple implications this could actually bring are price inflation and interest rates going up. Tremendous growth? I think not. I'd actually think that the US dollar is regressing more and more than it is supposed to be. Sooner or later though, a market crash of the US dollar may be upon us once again.

Elections don't really seem to relate to the topic at hand? Elections are the time when candidates spend money to spread their name around, and it ain't any small amount so naturally, a large amount would flow to the market.

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December 14, 2019, 12:51:44 PM
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Okay so lemme tell you how the dollar is falling now a days , last year only the bitcoins price against the uah was really high ... Because we all know how dollar is like the most dominant currency , therefore most people usually stock up dollars and then exchange them in local currency when the price goes in profit , but this year the dollar price is getting down and now people are selling off more and more, which is decreasing the price in the  local market even more therefore only 10% are stocking up , even though the year might be okay for the dollar the local stock market is still dying.

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December 14, 2019, 02:05:18 PM
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War, debt, high interest, inflation, all these schemes developed by some entities which control the world economy. Forget about it.
If USD going to rise in 2020, which means; For people who can't buy USD directly, invest in USDT or USDC is a good option for a store of value?
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I don’t know, I think staple food price are soaring high, stock up food, stock up drink, and stock up more bullets.

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December 14, 2019, 04:06:55 PM
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2020 is Good for USA dollar coz debt Will arise and to pay debt u need to have USA dollars.
Just coz of high debt the value of USA dollar Will Go Better.
So the USA dollar Will have Some tremendous growth.
Also the Canada dollar value Will grow 2020.

But USA and Canada stock market Will Not do great.


That's all according to Precirse calculations.


Most times in an election year the market does really well, but being that we are at alltime highs I can see either a auteur or a large correction coming.  What goes up must come down right.  Putting more money into the market at this point seems like top buying.  Not worth adding any extra into the market.  I'd rather buy when things are brutally red

Elections time is spending time. That would inject a good amount of money into the circulating economy. That contributes to high spending which is definitely good.

What I don't understand however is attributing the growth of the value of USD to the rise of debt. How would that be a good thing to the value of USD? Or is it referring to the growth of debt by other countries from the US? That means other countries will have to shift to the USD in order to pay them?

Maybe what he meant was about the growth of debt from other countries to the US, this kind of thing usually does have quite a significant impact on the USD currency. And of course that only applies to certain countries. However, in the last few years after the hype about cryptocurrency, I feel there is instability towards the rise in the USD.

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War, debt, high interest, inflation, all these schemes developed by some entities which control the world economy. Forget about it.
If USD going to rise in 2020, which means; For people who can't buy USD directly, invest in USDT or USDC is a good option for a store of value?

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Isn't it the economy that will dictate the value of one's currency? if the country will be gain more debt, this will affect everything on that country including the stocks market. That might be the reason why it's going to be down soon because investors and huge companies that has shares with companies that will be affected by the crisis will pull out.

Almost everything will go down at least.

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December 15, 2019, 08:39:07 AM
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Isn't it the economy that will dictate the value of one's currency? if the country will be gain more debt, this will affect everything on that country including the stocks market. That might be the reason why it's going to be down soon because investors and huge companies that has shares with companies that will be affected by the crisis will pull out.

Almost everything will go down at least.


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When USA economy Goes down its great time to Buy so its not Bad u can make profit out of this.
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December 15, 2019, 02:42:03 PM
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Most times in an election year the market does really well, but being that we are at alltime highs I can see either a auteur or a large correction coming.  What goes up must come down right.  Putting more money into the market at this point seems like top buying.  Not worth adding any extra into the market.  I'd rather buy when things are brutally red

I agree with your assessment. At this point we should be focusing on protecting gains while also preparing for a stock-market crash to snag assets for cheap. We don't know what the extent of it will be but I think it's prudent to assume it'll happen sooner than later.

Precisely, we need yo foc on how to protect out gains. Well, it is somehow needed for each and everyone of us here in crypto currency community. As the market continue its not in good condition, we have nothing to do about it but to wait and hoping that it may recover as wish by many here in digital world.
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December 15, 2019, 02:55:36 PM
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You have to remember that all these Trade Wars between China vs USA were done to strengthen the US economy and also the USD. Donald Trump's

idea is to reduce imports from other countries, when those goods and services can be rendered locally. It was supposed to create more job

opportunities in the US, but it also has the opposite affect, with a lot of companies having to close their doors, due to the import restrictions placed

on items they needed for production. China also restricted exports to the US for certain goods that could only be sourced in China or be sourced

very cheap.  Roll Eyes  The Dollar is also losing a lot of it's buying power, because it is being printed like toilet paper.  Tongue

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December 15, 2019, 03:03:24 PM
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You have to remember that all these Trade Wars between China vs USA were done to strengthen the US economy and also the USD. Donald Trump's

idea is to reduce imports from other countries, when those goods and services can be rendered locally. It was supposed to create more job

opportunities in the US, but it also has the opposite affect, with a lot of companies having to close their doors, due to the import restrictions placed

on items they needed for production. China also restricted exports to the US for certain goods that could only be sourced in China or be sourced

very cheap.  Roll Eyes  The Dollar is also losing a lot of it's buying power, because it is being printed like toilet paper.  Tongue


If currency is printed a lot then guess what currency been collected by various ways and burned.
One of the most Popular ways is to collect taxes and burn Some% of this taxes.
But If you burn eliminate currency then the currency value Will Go Higher and inflation will go down.
If you borrow USA dollars then you must pay Back with USA dollars... So in high debt situation Everybody is looking for USA dollars.




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December 16, 2019, 05:48:55 AM
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Isn't it the economy that will dictate the value of one's currency? if the country will gain more debt, this will affect everything on that country including the stocks market. That might be the reason why it's going to be down soon because investors and huge companies that has shares with companies that will be affected by the crisis will pull out.

Almost everything will go down at least.


Nope! 
Currency and economy is 2 Different things.
When USA economy Goes down its great time to Buy so its not Bad u can make profit out of this.
I'm no economics expert but I know that these two things are different but I'm explaining it to you that it's the factor that makes the value of one's currency. Like, if the currency of USD starts to fall because of the crisis that it's facing. On the investor side, yes that's a good opportunity to buy in.

But on the others perspective, that's a huge problem that they have to face because everyone is pulling out their investments because of the bad situation that the US' facing while people like you and me sees the that it's time to buy.

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December 16, 2019, 08:30:18 AM
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What is missing from this is that 2020 could be bad for stocks because of the election. People may not understand what these "precise calculations" are because that has been a topic of discussion here and in many other topics and I hate these vague guesses however I can give you just one reason why it won't be good for the stocks.

Whenever there is elections people don't know who will be elected, when they don't know who will be elected they tend to wait in cash and wait for the elections, when elections happen they reinvest back however elections are in November which means most of the year it will be undecided. Think about Bernie sanders getting the nomination, if something like that happens it would be horrible for many business and great for people, that is why many investors will pull their money out and wait.

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December 16, 2019, 10:41:36 AM
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2020 is Good for USA dollar coz debt Will arise and to pay debt u need to have USA dollars.
Just coz of high debt the value of USA dollar Will Go Better.
So the USA dollar Will have Some tremendous growth.
Also the Canada dollar value Will grow 2020.

But USA and Canada stock market Will Not do great.


That's all according to Precirse calculations.

experts speculate that by 2020 the stock market will lose a bigger marketcap and will enter the cryptocurrency,
hopefully that will happen so that bitcoin will explode again!
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December 16, 2019, 11:50:18 AM
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2020 is Good for USA dollar coz debt Will arise and to pay debt u need to have USA dollars.
Just coz of high debt the value of USA dollar Will Go Better.
So the USA dollar Will have Some tremendous growth.
Also the Canada dollar value Will grow 2020.

But USA and Canada stock market Will Not do great.


That's all according to Precirse calculations.

experts speculate that by 2020 the stock market will lose a bigger marketcap and will enter the cryptocurrency,
hopefully that will happen so that bitcoin will explode again!

Most of users here in crypto currency community predict that by 2020 it's gonna be a huge increase. As we just hoping here and try our luck to gain amount of profit. Also, I don't think that by 2020 will increase tremendously, maybe it will increase but not as much as the last quarter of 2017.
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