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December 17, 2019, 03:16:40 AM
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Android is too unsecure platform to store wallet there

You need to increase your knowledge about the wallets. You store the wallets on your desktop/ laptop or on your mobile phone, there is no difference in security and risk. For example you can store your coins in electrum wallet either in your PC or through Electrum app for Android. You will get the same security.

Well, the answer is certainly more nuanced than that.

On your desktop you usually run Windows, Mac or Linux and the security models differ quite dramatically. And the way people use those systems varies. If you keep your system updated and don't install anything, you are more secure than if you regularly install pirated software or otherwise software from untrusted sources.

That said, Android is really good at sandboxing, so one app should not have access to another app's storage, so it's much harder to screw up on Android than on Windows.

Lastly, larus maybe wasn't talking about desktops but about hardware wallets cause with these it's even harder to lose your bitcoins.

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December 17, 2019, 04:37:34 PM
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We've been working on walletscrutiny.com for about two months now as a side project and hope to see many wallets that are currently "only" open source to care more about verification and make it into the "verifiable" category.

With the community's support, this project could turn into a permanent thing, with new versions being checked as they are being published and we certainly would also expand to other platforms and more attributes to look at.

Currently, being verifiable unfortunately doesn't mean that anybody would verify any code and we also have ideas how to fix that.

Any feedback welcome


It's nice that you have set up this kind of project for the community, it surely is a big help for all of us, since everybody here is using all those wallets listed in your websites, I'm glad that all the wallet that I'm currently using are all verified, I have bookmarked your site for future reference and recommendation.

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December 18, 2019, 01:35:50 AM
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It's nice that you have set up this kind of project for the community, it surely is a big help for all of us, since everybody here is using all those wallets listed in your websites, I'm glad that all the wallet that I'm currently using are all verified, I have bookmarked your site for future reference and recommendation.

Thanks for your kind words but we do not verify much. We only test if the wallets at the time of our test can be audited. An audit itself would cost tens of thousands of dollars per wallet and would be outdated with the next release. As this is not a practical thing to expect, we will go in a slightly different direction and make sure the incentives are there for finding the one issue through something like bug bounties.

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January 07, 2020, 09:10:53 AM
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I must really commend you for this type of project, as promising and valuable the crypto industry seems, there are some loose ends that needs to be tied just as the one you're doing
Not everyone is tech savvy, some are just bloody investors that doesnt even know how reliable their wallets are but with projects like this, then we can always be sure of what type of wallets to rely on.
I used to be a very good fan of atomic wallet until i checked up website and discovered that i am standing a risk of having my wallet security compromised at any time.
Kudos for your great efforts once again!!
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March 05, 2020, 03:15:40 PM
Last edit: March 05, 2020, 05:58:29 PM by OmegaStarScream
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There is a new LN wallet called Shockwallet (Alpha): https://github.com/shocknet/wallet

Also, why is Bitrefill even listed there? Just because you can deposit funds into your account doesn't make the app a wallet does not necessarily make the app a wallet.

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April 30, 2020, 02:14:58 AM
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I must really commend you for this type of project, as promising and valuable the crypto industry seems, there are some loose ends that needs to be tied just as the one you're doing
Not everyone is tech savvy, some are just bloody investors that doesnt even know how reliable their wallets are but with projects like this, then we can always be sure of what type of wallets to rely on.
I used to be a very good fan of atomic wallet until i checked up website and discovered that i am standing a risk of having my wallet security compromised at any time.
Kudos for your great efforts once again!!

Thanks! Please keep in mind that WalletScrutiny so far only tests verifiability. It does not verify the source code itself. This is something for some phase two.

There is a new LN wallet called Shockwallet (Alpha): https://github.com/shocknet/wallet

Currently I only add wallets that are on Google Play. If you have a link to their store listing, I add it to WalletScrutiny.

Also, why is Bitrefill even listed there? Just because you can deposit funds into your account doesn't make the app a wallet does not necessarily make the app a wallet.

The criteria of being listed at all is that it looked a bit like a wallet. BitRefill in particular is a custodial service, so it's not a wallet but a "Bitcoin bank". This should be clear from how it's represented. If you wouldn't be able to lose "your" bitcoins with them, it would be "not a wallet".

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