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December 14, 2019, 07:50:03 AM
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Date:  December 20, 2019
Venue: Talking Stick Resort Arena in Phoenix, Arizona

Daniel Jacobs and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. will clash next week in a Super-Middleweight fight. This would be Daniel Jacobs debut in the Super-Middleweight division if i'm not mistaken. What intrigue me most in this fight is the odds. Daniel Jacobs is the heavy favorite to win this fight but i think Chavez Jr. has the tools to beat him.

Odds in Sportsbet had it Jacobs (1.04), Chavez Jr. (8.60)

To those who love underdogs, what do you think of this fight?

 
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Nah, I think JCC Jr is done, there are reports that in this previous fight, he doesn't train that hard and doesn't have the mentality of his father. So I say that the odds for Daniel Jacobs is about right, and it could be an easy fight for him. Besides, JCC Jr, is no longer at his prime, probably just wanted to get a decent pay check before finally retiring.

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December 14, 2019, 10:01:17 AM
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Chavez Jr is being trained by the fabled Freddie Roach, so that is a big positive for him. But I don't know if his body and mind is still in boxing. Another interesting side note, Chavez Jr, skipped a drug test, putting this fight in jeopardy, but Hearn assured the everything will be push thru as plan.

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Skipping the test was clearly the wrong thing for Chavez Jr. to do, as it made him look like he had something to hide. Hearn wishes Chavez Jr. had taken it, because if he had passed it, they would be fighting in Vegas on December 20. Of course, if Chavez Jr. had something to hide, then that’s another thing. This meant Chavez Jr. wouldn’t be licensed to fight in Nevada.

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December 14, 2019, 10:21:43 AM
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Chavez Jr is being trained by the fabled Freddie Roach, so that is a big positive for him. But I don't know if his body and mind is still in boxing. Another interesting side note, Chavez Jr, skipped a drug test, putting this fight in jeopardy, but Hearn assured the everything will be push thru as plan.

Another drug test controversy here by Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., i remembered on one of his fight that he tested positive on the use of marijuana. This guy did not learned from that mistake and i would not spend my money betting on this guy. Baofeng is right, this guy is done as far as boxing is concern. He is just there for the money.
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December 14, 2019, 10:25:33 AM
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Nah, I think JCC Jr is done, there are reports that in this previous fight, he doesn't train that hard and doesn't have the mentality of his father. So I say that the odds for Daniel Jacobs is about right, and it could be an easy fight for him. Besides, JCC Jr, is no longer at his prime, probably just wanted to get a decent pay check before finally retiring.

I'm very disappointed on his fight against Canelo, he really doesn't have the heart and the skill of his father and O don't think he can dominate Jacobs I have seen some of his fights and I think he is good enough to beat Chavez, Chavez is losing badly on the top fighters of this generation he is having a hard time creating his own legacy.

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December 14, 2019, 10:44:18 AM
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Nah, I think JCC Jr is done, there are reports that in this previous fight, he doesn't train that hard and doesn't have the mentality of his father. So I say that the odds for Daniel Jacobs is about right, and it could be an easy fight for him. Besides, JCC Jr, is no longer at his prime, probably just wanted to get a decent pay check before finally retiring.

We can't conclude to this idea if that would be an easy fight, because when this man started to train discreetly I guess Jacobs should undergo serious and strenuous training. He must work out more strategies in order to defend his current position, that's why avoiding too much confidence is a certain ways for him to defeat an enemy. Never judge JCC, as per previous fights, he still has more potentials as long as there's frequent training activities.

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December 14, 2019, 10:48:47 AM
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Nah, I think JCC Jr is done, there are reports that in this previous fight, he doesn't train that hard and doesn't have the mentality of his father. So I say that the odds for Daniel Jacobs is about right, and it could be an easy fight for him. Besides, JCC Jr, is no longer at his prime, probably just wanted to get a decent pay check before finally retiring.
I'd say I agree, but let's see what happens on the 20th. He just recently had an interview and stated that He wanted to be the best fighter in the world. I'd say he had the chance, but he wasted it early on with all the issues about him cropping up here and there. Plus, currently, his coach, Freddie Roach is pretty much positive that he could actually win this fight. Let's see what happens though, I believe the guy deserves one more chance to prove himself

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December 14, 2019, 11:11:12 AM
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Nah, I think JCC Jr is done, there are reports that in this previous fight, he doesn't train that hard and doesn't have the mentality of his father. So I say that the odds for Daniel Jacobs is about right, and it could be an easy fight for him. Besides, JCC Jr, is no longer at his prime, probably just wanted to get a decent pay check before finally retiring.

Lol, let's give this guy a chance and one thing positive that i see on this one is Freddie Roach being so positive about his guy on being the Miracle Man. JCC Jr is the bigger fighter here so this may add advantage on him but it's better for him to have more tune-up fight before fighting a boxer with the caliber of Jacobs. He's got only one fight after that duel with Canelo and it ended only in round one, no sweat. I hope he would be competitive come December 20, anything happens in boxing and he might pull-off the W here.
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Nah, I think JCC Jr is done, there are reports that in this previous fight, he doesn't train that hard and doesn't have the mentality of his father. So I say that the odds for Daniel Jacobs is about right, and it could be an easy fight for him. Besides, JCC Jr, is no longer at his prime, probably just wanted to get a decent pay check before finally retiring.

Lol, let's give this guy a chance and one thing positive that i see on this one is Freddie Roach being so positive about his guy on being the Miracle Man. JCC Jr is the bigger fighter here so this may add advantage on him but it's better for him to have more tune-up fight before fighting a boxer with the caliber of Jacobs. He's got only one fight after that duel with Canelo and it ended only in round one, no sweat. I hope he would be competitive come December 20, anything happens in boxing and he might pull-off the W here.
This is the only fight where i do see that underdog do have the chance.Majority saying that JCC is done? I dont think so.
I can see advantages on here and might able to pull it off. Miracle Man? Possible. Roach wont say a thing if he dont see any chances.
6 days left for the event and i might throw up some bucks with JCC here.

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December 14, 2019, 02:08:21 PM
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Nah, I think JCC Jr is done, there are reports that in this previous fight, he doesn't train that hard and doesn't have the mentality of his father. So I say that the odds for Daniel Jacobs is about right, and it could be an easy fight for him. Besides, JCC Jr, is no longer at his prime, probably just wanted to get a decent pay check before finally retiring.

Lol, let's give this guy a chance and one thing positive that i see on this one is Freddie Roach being so positive about his guy on being the Miracle Man. JCC Jr is the bigger fighter here so this may add advantage on him but it's better for him to have more tune-up fight before fighting a boxer with the caliber of Jacobs. He's got only one fight after that duel with Canelo and it ended only in round one, no sweat. I hope he would be competitive come December 20, anything happens in boxing and he might pull-off the W here.
This is the only fight where i do see that underdog do have the chance.Majority saying that JCC is done? I dont think so.
I can see advantages on here and might able to pull it off. Miracle Man? Possible. Roach wont say a thing if he dont see any chances.
6 days left for the event and i might throw up some bucks with JCC here.

I think the prediction for the two participants for this upcoming match is very crucial even Daniel Jacobs has the fewer games, and Chavez already got experience for this matches it is too hard to know which will win the game. Base from their previous events from 2012 up to 2019, Jacobs has only three loses and Chavez too. The game is too close because they have the same age bracket and height, to know which is the best boxer in their bracket. The one who has a lot of experience and technique styles even they have a lot of matches still the winner is the one who good at scoring and punching, base on the records of both players. Chavez has the most KO's and decision but every match there's a lot of hard work and training needed so we cannot tell what kind of technique of Jacobs will show in the game to win.

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December 14, 2019, 04:00:54 PM
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Chavez has a tool to beat to beat him, but this is not going to be an easy fight for Chavez, I have seen this Jacob goes toe to toe against Canelo, while Chavez is very complacent in his fight against Canelo, Jacob is a real slugger I bet Jacob winning by knock out or unanimous decision here.

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December 14, 2019, 05:00:58 PM
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Nah, I think JCC Jr is done, there are reports that in this previous fight, he doesn't train that hard and doesn't have the mentality of his father. So I say that the odds for Daniel Jacobs is about right, and it could be an easy fight for him. Besides, JCC Jr, is no longer at his prime, probably just wanted to get a decent pay check before finally retiring.

I will be favoring Daniel Jacobs in this fight.
Chavez Jr does not even rank in the top 15 players. Most of us don't know that he is the son of the Mexican legend Julio Cesar but he does not look to be of same talent of his father. I really doubt if he can win against Jacobs.
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December 14, 2019, 05:20:03 PM
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Nah, I think JCC Jr is done, there are reports that in this previous fight, he doesn't train that hard and doesn't have the mentality of his father. So I say that the odds for Daniel Jacobs is about right, and it could be an easy fight for him. Besides, JCC Jr, is no longer at his prime, probably just wanted to get a decent pay check before finally retiring.

I will be favoring Daniel Jacobs in this fight.
Chavez Jr does not even rank in the top 15 players. Most of us don't know that he is the son of the Mexican legend Julio Cesar but he does not look to be of same talent of his father. I really doubt if he can win against Jacobs.

The old Chavez never backs down until the last seconds of the fight I have watched his fight against Taylor several times and it's an inspiration for many boxers to never give up imagine Taylor was ahead on points, then boom he caught Taylor with a wicked right in the last round with 17 seconds to go, we can't see that in Chavez junior he doesn't have the heart to go toe to toe, the old Chavez is way ahead of his Junior.








 



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December 14, 2019, 07:22:35 PM
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It's boxing, and from what I've seen, Chavez Jr, has what it takes to be a champion again, the problem is that he is somewhat lazy. But since Roach take him back and train him because he made a promise that he is no longer the same person, I would give Chavez Jr here a puncher's chance against Daniel Jacobs. Very attractive odds for those who want to go for the underdogs.

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December 14, 2019, 08:32:37 PM
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Chavez Jr. is the underdog for a reason, Daniel Jacobs is a beast. The odds of approx 20:1 seem about right to me.

I'm not a person that would bet on an underdog unless I knew something other people don't.

It would need to be a miracle for Chavez to win this fight.
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December 14, 2019, 11:18:41 PM
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It's boxing, and from what I've seen, Chavez Jr, has what it takes to be a champion again, the problem is that he is somewhat lazy. But since Roach take him back and train him because he made a promise that he is no longer the same person, I would give Chavez Jr here a puncher's chance against Daniel Jacobs. Very attractive odds for those who want to go for the underdogs.

You've got a point there mate, Chavez Jr doesn't have a heart of a champion like his father maybe because he does not experience poverty because he is a son of a boxing legend which provided them with there daily needs.

If you have followed the career of JCC Jr, almost all of his fights were carefully chosen so that he will look good in the ring  Smiley, they were cherry picking back then. In fairness to him, he got the moves and laterals of a good boxer so i think he got a chance to win this fight.

The odds is really tempting, that's why i ask your thoughts about this fight.
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December 14, 2019, 11:35:17 PM
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If you have followed the career of JCC Jr, almost all of his fights were carefully chosen so that he will look good in the ring  Smiley, they were cherry picking back then. In fairness to him, he got the moves and laterals of a good boxer so i think he got a chance to win this fight.


Exactly, been following him for years myself and he just padded his stats with tomato can fighters  Smiley.

And as soon as he face Canelo, it's over for him, he was really eating punches that's why I totally lost all my hype on JCC Jr back then. And now him fighting a decent fighter as Daniel Jacobs is, I don't think he has a chance.

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December 14, 2019, 11:40:07 PM
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It's boxing, and from what I've seen, Chavez Jr, has what it takes to be a champion again, the problem is that he is somewhat lazy. But since Roach take him back and train him because he made a promise that he is no longer the same person, I would give Chavez Jr here a puncher's chance against Daniel Jacobs. Very attractive odds for those who want to go for the underdogs.

You've got a point there mate, Chavez Jr doesn't have a heart of a champion like his father maybe because he does not experience poverty because he is a son of a boxing legend which provided them with there daily needs.

If you have followed the career of JCC Jr, almost all of his fights were carefully chosen so that he will look good in the ring  Smiley, they were cherry picking back then. In fairness to him, he got the moves and laterals of a good boxer so i think he got a chance to win this fight.

The odds is really tempting, that's why i ask your thoughts about this fight.

The motivation of JCC Jr is not as strong as his father. Maybe true. But the likelihood that Jacobs will win this one is quite high in my opinion. Still interesting to watch what's gonna be like inside the ring though...
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December 15, 2019, 12:25:30 AM
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I likely think that Daniel Jacobs had a huge advantage in winning this for sure because I think this fight was in favor of Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. career and I think it is arranged to save his downward loop career, but I think the kid will have a hard time in fighting Jacobs because of the many accusations on Chavez is using steroids but that is not really proven the most notable in his issues was his appetite with partying that most people really think known to everyone,

I guess that Chavez wants to return to the spotlight and aiming to get himself back to the good books well let us give him an opportunity but Daniel Jacobs is pretty much offering a fight because I think this will not be an easy feat to achieve.
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December 16, 2019, 10:02:45 PM
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It's boxing, and from what I've seen, Chavez Jr, has what it takes to be a champion again, the problem is that he is somewhat lazy. But since Roach take him back and train him because he made a promise that he is no longer the same person, I would give Chavez Jr here a puncher's chance against Daniel Jacobs. Very attractive odds for those who want to go for the underdogs.

You've got a point there mate, Chavez Jr doesn't have a heart of a champion like his father maybe because he does not experience poverty because he is a son of a boxing legend which provided them with there daily needs.

If you have followed the career of JCC Jr, almost all of his fights were carefully chosen so that he will look good in the ring  Smiley, they were cherry picking back then. In fairness to him, he got the moves and laterals of a good boxer so i think he got a chance to win this fight.

The odds is really tempting, that's why i ask your thoughts about this fight.

Right, I'm sure that his father is very disappointment on how Jr career's turn out. Yes, odds are tempting, might be a good idea to bet on the underdog here.

@YuginKadoya - as far as I can remember, the illegal substance that was found on his system is a diuretics, some form of ban substance for weight control. And with all the partying he had and with no diet system in his side, no wonder why he needed it.

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