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December 15, 2019, 07:46:09 AM
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Quadriga: Lawyers for users of bankrupt crypto firm seek exhumation of founder

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Lawyers representing users of bankrupt cryptocurrency exchange QuadrigaCX are asking Canadian authorities to exhume the body of its founder.

They say they want an exhumation given "questionable circumstances" surrounding his death.

Gerald Cotten died suddenly last year in India from complications related to Crohn's disease.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50751899

I think its within legal bounds, this can be done, just to make sure that Gerald Cotten is indeed dead and maybe we can have closure of his death as we all know that there are a lot of questions about his demise, specially it happen in India wherein there's a lot of fake deaths have been reported.

 
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December 15, 2019, 10:04:50 AM
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What a twist of event, I thought all along that he was cremated or something.

So what is this "Proof of Death" (PoD)? Is this the latest protocol now?  Grin

Seriously though, it won't change a thing so I don't know what the lawyers are playing here.

 
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December 15, 2019, 02:54:56 PM
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Seriously though, it won't change a thing so I don't know what the lawyers are playing here.
Unless there is clear and solid evidence that someone has indeed died, there is a possibility that the person is still alive and that this is a false death. It should be understood that attorneys are seeking solid evidence, given all the circumstances surrounding this case.

I think there is something to be learned from this case, which is that one man cannot start a company like this and be the only one with the key to everything in his head. Totally insane and unprofessional behavior unless you are planning an exit scam, therefore, there is a reasonable doubt that this is precisely the case.

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December 15, 2019, 03:10:24 PM
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If they are able to exhume the body,  I hope there's a passphrase tattooed on the corpse.  While I would not recommend this particular type of cold wallet to anyone; it would ultimately serve its purpose.

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December 15, 2019, 03:19:53 PM
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Seriously though, it won't change a thing so I don't know what the lawyers are playing here.
I think this is the answer, they suspect that he forged the news of his death to steal that money.

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Online rumours have circulated since, speculating that Cotten faked his own death and sought to abscond with the funds, though no evidence of such a scheme has been revealed in the year since he died.
The story that the only one who knows how to send money died in mysterious circumstances seems suspicious.


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Earlier this year, a report by auditor Ernst & Young found significant problems in how the exchange was managed, including finding that Cotten created certain accounts on the Quadriga platform under aliases that may have been used to trade on the exchange.

There is also a lot of ambiguity about how to manage that exchange, why no one has asked about who owns the keys, and why the only one who can conduct all transactions is Quadriga?

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December 15, 2019, 04:19:58 PM
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I understand on what they're fighting for and you cant really avoid on those victims mind to have those suspicions and doubts thats why they do end up on this kind of step of exhumation.

Im sure that victims are pretty aware that they do have no clear chances on getting a cent but at least they are trying their best to at least convince themselves that it is indeed a legit death
rather then letting things go without having a clear or peace of mind.

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December 15, 2019, 04:25:58 PM
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I understand on what they're fighting for and you cant really avoid on those victims mind to have those suspicions and doubts thats why they do end up on this kind of step of exhumation.

Im sure that victims are pretty aware that they do have no clear chances on getting a cent but at least they are trying their best to at least convince themselves that it is indeed a legit death
rather then letting things go without having a clear or peace of mind.

 If the victims are aware they have no chance of getting a cent, why would they spend more money they'll never see again on lawyers to pursue this exhumation?   Is this a case of once the lawyer is unleashed you can't put him/her back in the box?
 
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December 15, 2019, 06:19:27 PM
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I'm not against it per se but I think they are just doing this as a matter of delaying the process for the recovery. Determining/confirming his identity should be out of the question here as already faking his own death is out of the possibility here knowing his cause of death is also irrelevant even if they found out that it was suicide or someone murdered him the thing is the liability of QuadrigaCX  is still there, basically nothing will change on what they are asking so this is just a matter of delaying the damages for their clients.
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December 15, 2019, 07:54:29 PM
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I think he's dead and this will confirm it. The wife would have had the repatriated body cremated and ashes scattered if Cotten's death was faked.

Seriously though, it won't change a thing so I don't know what the lawyers are playing here.
Unless there is clear and solid evidence that someone has indeed died, there is a possibility that the person is still alive and that this is a false death.

We know somebody died. It's not just a death certificate signed by an Indian doctor. The Indian police also gave authorization for Cotten’s body to be sent back to Canada and a Nova Scotia funeral home provided a statement of death.

The exhumation and autopsy would confirm that the dead body is actually Gerald Cotten. If it's someone else, that lends a lot of credence to the idea that fraud is being perpetrated.

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December 15, 2019, 08:06:50 PM
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lol Just DNA will be enough to see compelling evidence of fraud here. If proven he faked his death, how are they going to find Cotten in India?
Curious about this investigation. If indeed he did an exit scam, he may not be there anymore if he is alive. Probably in Thailand where he can easily ask for cosmetic surgery.  With $180M he can shapeshift so anything.

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December 16, 2019, 01:21:18 AM
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I think its within legal bounds, this can be done, just to make sure that Gerald Cotten is indeed dead and maybe we can have closure of his death as we all know that there are a lot of questions about his demise, specially it happen in India wherein there's a lot of fake deaths have been reported.

This can be critical to the QuadrigaCX case so that all questions and doubts relative to the founder's death can finally be laid to rest. I am sure there is a great interest to this story not just within the cryptocurrency community but even outside. I read a long article on the case of this exchange and the many things on Gerald Cotten and at the end it saddened me that there are many people like him existing within the very industry we love so dear. The man started to make his name promoting ponzi scams and at the end the same label is attached to him into his grave. I am extending my condolences to the people who are victims of this now-dead platform.
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lol Just DNA will be enough to see compelling evidence of fraud here. If proven he faked his death, how are they going to find Cotten in India?
Curious about this investigation. If indeed he did an exit scam, he may not be there anymore if he is alive. Probably in Thailand where he can easily ask for cosmetic surgery.  With $180M he can shapeshift so anything.

Well that's one speculation of Cotten, that he is still alive and living somewhere else.

And this whole exhumation process will finally settle everything about his death. But as far as the missing funds? It can't be recovered unless he goes to a procedure like this Meet the Tiny Bitcoin Wallet that Lives Under Your Skin.

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December 16, 2019, 02:52:25 PM
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Quadriga: Lawyers for users of bankrupt crypto firm seek exhumation of founder

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Lawyers representing users of bankrupt cryptocurrency exchange QuadrigaCX are asking Canadian authorities to exhume the body of its founder.

They say they want an exhumation given "questionable circumstances" surrounding his death.

Gerald Cotten died suddenly last year in India from complications related to Crohn's disease.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50751899

I think its within legal bounds, this can be done, just to make sure that Gerald Cotten is indeed dead and maybe we can have closure of his death as we all know that there are a lot of questions about his demise, specially it happen in India wherein there's a lot of fake deaths have been reported.

The confusing here for me is that if the death happened in India, why is the court case being filed in Canada except of course he was buried in Canada. As much as it might be a form of disrespect to the dead, but the lawyers are not expected to make such a claim if they don't have some level of certainty that there is some secrets that needs to be unfold.

If people funds are involved, then there is no extent too far to be harnessed in other to get to the root of the matter.
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Quadriga: Lawyers for users of bankrupt crypto firm seek exhumation of founder

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Lawyers representing users of bankrupt cryptocurrency exchange QuadrigaCX are asking Canadian authorities to exhume the body of its founder.

They say they want an exhumation given "questionable circumstances" surrounding his death.

Gerald Cotten died suddenly last year in India from complications related to Crohn's disease.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50751899

I think its within legal bounds, this can be done, just to make sure that Gerald Cotten is indeed dead and maybe we can have closure of his death as we all know that there are a lot of questions about his demise, specially it happen in India wherein there's a lot of fake deaths have been reported.

The confusing here for me is that if the death happened in India, why is the court case being filed in Canada except of course he was buried in Canada. As much as it might be a form of disrespect to the dead, but the lawyers are not expected to make such a claim if they don't have some level of certainty that there is some secrets that needs to be unfold.

If people funds are involved, then there is no extent too far to be harnessed in other to get to the root of the matter.

  Gerald Cotten is/was a Canadian citizen, his body was allegedly sent back to Canada and buried there, QuadrigaCX (the company under investigation) is a Canadian company and the court case is in Canada.
Why in the world would a Canadian bankruptcy case be heard in India?
 
 This is just people grasping at straws and paying lawyers to do their bidding.  The lawyers are not privy to any special information that is not already available to the general public and they have already stated as much.

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December 17, 2019, 12:42:33 PM
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If they are able to exhume the body,  I hope there's a passphrase tattooed on the corpse.  While I would not recommend this particular type of cold wallet to anyone; it would ultimately serve its purpose.

Too late for that, unless his body is being stored in a refrigerator this whole time, the skin would have long since decomposed by now.

lol Just DNA will be enough to see compelling evidence of fraud here. If proven he faked his death, how are they going to find Cotten in India?
Curious about this investigation. If indeed he did an exit scam, he may not be there anymore if he is alive. Probably in Thailand where he can easily ask for cosmetic surgery.  With $180M he can shapeshift so anything.

Depending on how/where the body has been stored/buried, there might not be enough DNA to draw meaningful conclusions.

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If they are able to exhume the body,  I hope there's a passphrase tattooed on the corpse.  While I would not recommend this particular type of cold wallet to anyone; it would ultimately serve its purpose.

Too late for that, unless his body is being stored in a refrigerator this whole time, the skin would have long since decomposed by now.

Here's a long shot: Maybe he had microchip wallets implanted under his skin like this guy. The chips could be sitting in his coffin right now, degrading from the elements.

Depending on how/where the body has been stored/buried, there might not be enough DNA to draw meaningful conclusions.

He was Canadian. I assume that dental records will suffice for verifying identity.

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February 02, 2020, 10:55:18 AM
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Just to give an update guys, specially for those of you who are following this case:

The court appointed lawyers/counsel for Quadriga's users are putting pressures on the official, Bill Blair and ask for an update if indeed exhumation will take place.

Here is the official documents:

https://www.millerthomson.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Communication-from-Representative-Counsel-_-Communication-de-la-part-des-repr%C3%A9sentants.pdf

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A. Exhumation UpdateAs you know, on December 13, 2019, Representative Counsel sent a letter to the RCMP requesting an exhumation and autopsy of the alleged body of Gerald Cotten. Today, Representative Counsel issued a letter to the Honourable Bill Blair, Canadian Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness, requesting an update on whether the RCMP will conduct an exhumation and post­mortem autopsy on the alleged body of Gerald Cotten prior to Spring 2020.

 Affected Users may contact Bill Blair, as publicly elected official responsible for the oversight of the RCMP, at bill.blair@parl.gc.ca if they have further questions about the RCMP’s management of this file. Alternatively, contact your local Member of Parliament.

 
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