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December 15, 2019, 02:31:09 PM
Last edit: December 16, 2019, 10:05:32 AM by Herbert_kopf
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Hello everyone, recently one of my friends lost 3000usdt by buying items online
He wasn't careful enough and he has sent usdt upfront to online seller

Of course he got tricked and seller blocked him instsntly
He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia
What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not?
Thank you
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December 15, 2019, 02:41:10 PM
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The transaction happened on an online (centralized) platform? If that's the case, you could start there by asking the platform to provide the necessary details (IP address, ID, etc.) about the seller (but even then, I doubt much can be done because of the distance).

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December 15, 2019, 02:44:24 PM
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What are legal actions he can make
It's better to just ask a real lawyer. You and your friend must have at least one relative or a friend.
Gather all the evidence that the lawyer may need like which platform.

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and are they in real situation helpful or not?
I'm not following you here. Are you asking if the contract to sell is legally binding even if it was done online?
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December 15, 2019, 02:57:52 PM
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The transaction happened on an online (centralized) platform? If that's the case, you could start there by asking the platform to provide the necessary details (IP address, ID, etc.) about the seller (but even then, I doubt much can be done because of the distance).
I think it happened through communication like Skype or so
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December 15, 2019, 03:37:16 PM
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I think it happened through communication like Skype or so
Thank you for replys
[/quote]The only thing you can do is what OmegaStarScream just suggested and you should report it to the platform that your friend and the seller use to have transaction. In that way, many people would know that this seller is to be avoided at all cost. Maybe the platform will restrict the seller's account (I hope so).

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December 15, 2019, 04:01:51 PM
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I think it happened through communication like Skype or so
Thank you for replys

I really doubt you're going to get anywhere as the scammer most likely just used some sort of online gamer nickname, or at least a fake name, rather than the scammer's real name. But yea, you can try contacting Skype about this because at this point, you have nothing else more to lose, and it's definitely at least worth trying.



EDIT: And probably try contacting Tether[1] itself. Remember, they have the power to freeze USDTs(a thread about this). Not sure how the process will go though, assuming they respond.


[1] https://tether.to/

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December 15, 2019, 04:02:05 PM
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Since you told me that the transaction was done through online platform. If you have done it using Paypal then you can easily claim the money back. I think you have to claim it within one-month time frame.

If it was done using an eCommerce website then you can ask the website to investigate, as you did not receive the product.

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December 15, 2019, 04:23:56 PM
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Hello everyone, recently one of my friends lost 3000usdt by buying items online
He wasn't careful enough and he has sent usdt upfront to online seller

Of course he got tricked and seller blocked him instsntly
He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia
What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not?
Thank you

As per your words it look like the transaction was done in usd and not in crypto currency. So you can ask help from the centralized platform on how to deal with such situations. Although i am surprised that you used an online platform and yet there is no escrow implemented to protect the both buyer and the seller. If you don't mind can you share the site which your friend used ?

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December 15, 2019, 04:27:18 PM
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Hello everyone, recently one of my friends lost 3000usdt by buying items online
He wasn't careful enough and he has sent usdt upfront to online seller

Of course he got tricked and seller blocked him instsntly
He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia
What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not?
Thank you

As per your words it look like the transaction was done in usd and not in crypto currency. So you can ask help from the centralized platform on how to deal with such situations. Although i am surprised that you used an online platform and yet there is no escrow implemented to protect the both buyer and the seller. If you don't mind can you share the site which your friend used ?
transaction was made through tether coin
Not just USD, I meant USDT coin
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December 15, 2019, 04:28:29 PM
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Hello everyone, recently one of my friends lost 3000usdt by buying items online
He wasn't careful enough and he has sent usdt upfront to online seller

Of course he got tricked and seller blocked him instsntly
He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia
What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not?
Thank you

I am always be careful while i deal with the global marketplace and especially dealing with the Asians. People from the third world country normally do such scams and i usually avoid dealing with them. Even if you have to deal with them, never go first in the trade or better use a third trusted party.
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December 15, 2019, 04:49:10 PM
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Hello everyone, recently one of my friends lost 3000usdt by buying items online
He wasn't careful enough and he has sent usdt upfront to online seller

Of course he got tricked and seller blocked him instsntly
He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia
What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not?
Thank you

As per your words it look like the transaction was done in usd and not in crypto currency. So you can ask help from the centralized platform on how to deal with such situations. Although i am surprised that you used an online platform and yet there is no escrow implemented to protect the both buyer and the seller. If you don't mind can you share the site which your friend used ?
transaction was made through tether coin
Not just USD, I meant USDT coin

And the name of the site where this fraud happened ?
Since the transaction happened in USDT, seller will now be more difficult to trace. Maybe he has given his real information , address etc while registering on the site ?

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December 15, 2019, 04:52:04 PM
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Hello everyone, recently one of my friends lost 3000usdt by buying items online
He wasn't careful enough and he has sent usdt upfront to online seller

Of course he got tricked and seller blocked him instsntly
He's from USA and seller is probably from Asia
What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not?
Thank you
Better move on yet expenses on having those legal action steps wont really be that cheap for sure.Instead, take this a lesson learn that never easily trust up sellers online if they havent
enough credibility/trust/reputation. Always stick on reputable marketplaces and also always demand for an escrow.

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December 15, 2019, 05:47:37 PM
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What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not?
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Not much he can do. Costs of legal actions are huge compared to $3000.
Of course he can fight for justice but it will be expensive.
I hope he will learn from that and not make same mistake twice.
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December 15, 2019, 05:57:05 PM
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What are legal actions he can make and are they in real situation helpful or not?
Thank you
Not much he can do. Costs of legal actions are huge compared to $3000.
Of course he can fight for justice but it will be expensive.
I hope he will learn from that and not make same mistake twice.

Learning from experience is the most difficult learning because you face a loss and then learn. It is has advised many times not to trade without an escrow bit no one learn from advises.  Huh

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December 15, 2019, 06:17:22 PM
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transaction was made through tether coin
Not just USD, I meant USDT coin

So it seems that an exchange was used to transfer USDT, and the sender would then send the items? Is that how the transaction worked ( or was supposed to) ? Cause if so, then give up. The transaction happened online, and your friend was the one whom transferred it willingly. EVEN if you brought this up to the law, there aren't enough information to go around that could help your friend. It's like how you buy in-game items on marketplaces through fiat/virtual currency. If there isn't a good middleman (either application/system or a person) to pass through, the person to be scammed can only blame themselves for not setting any thing to protect their assets.

Also note the term used "tricked" meaning, fully the clients fault, if I do say so myself. I'm pretty sure legal action is done when stealing is involved, but since your friend just got tricked into sending it, I doubt movement would happen to it. Only thing you can do now is to spread the scammers name and warn others.
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December 15, 2019, 06:51:05 PM
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It's amazing that people still fall for such tricks. First of all, I advise you to contact the police, let them do this.
If the seller is from another country, then it is possible that your friend is not the only deceived user. Perhaps the police will be able to establish his identity. But I would not count on a positive outcome.

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December 15, 2019, 07:33:50 PM
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transaction was made through tether coin
Not just USD, I meant USDT coin
I am sorry to everyone who posted I can't reply to All due limits but I reply to you as your post came in my eye


So it seems that an exchange was used to transfer USDT, and the sender would then send the items? Is that how the transaction worked ( or was supposed to) ? Cause if so, then give up. The transaction happened online, and your friend was the one whom transferred it willingly. EVEN if you brought this up to the law, there aren't enough information to go around that could help your friend. It's like how you buy in-game items on marketplaces through fiat/virtual currency. If there isn't a good middleman (either application/system or a person) to pass through, the person to be scammed can only blame themselves for not setting any thing to protect their assets.

Also note the term used "tricked" meaning, fully the clients fault, if I do say so myself. I'm pretty sure legal action is done when stealing is involved, but since your friend just got tricked into sending it, I doubt movement would happen to it. Only thing you can do now is to spread the scammers name and warn others.
I am sorry to everyone who posted I can't reply to All due limits but I reply to you as your post came in my eye yes it was how trade should worked
So he agree with seller that he will pay him directly without some kind of escrow or so via communication network
They were chatting a lot of before they agree on all
Once my friend sent usdt, he just blocked him on social network they were chatting and that's all. I think it's dumbest way to get scammed but still...
So you said even If he brought it to law it's not enough, what would be enough from him to make?
Also I will answer  to you another users once my limit disappear
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December 15, 2019, 08:12:11 PM
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The transaction happened on an online (centralized) platform? If that's the case, you could start there by asking the platform to provide the necessary details (IP address, ID, etc.) about the seller (but even then, I doubt much can be done because of the distance).
thank you for answering
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December 15, 2019, 08:58:56 PM
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I am sorry your friend had to learn the lesson the hard way.
You should never make deals with strangers without an escrow especially when you send first and pay in cryptocurrencies (transactions are irreversible).
Sorry to say it but there is not much that can be done here. What makes you think he is from Asia?
The scammer probably used a fake identity when communicating with your friend.

However, you should keep track of all transactions made by his USDT address. Hoping it will lead you to his real identity.

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December 16, 2019, 12:04:19 AM
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I am sorry your friend had to learn the lesson the hard way.
You should never make deals with strangers without an escrow especially when you send first and pay in cryptocurrencies (transactions are irreversible).
Sorry to say it but there is not much that can be done here. What makes you think he is from Asia?
The scammer probably used a fake identity when communicating with your friend.

However, you should keep track of all transactions made by his USDT address. Hoping it will lead you to his real identity.

I'll say your suggestion to my friend
I'll update if something good happen
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