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December 18, 2019, 05:05:25 PM
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It looks like the fees charged by the exchange when making a withdrawal, it is not a transaction fee but it is a withdrawal fee which has been accumulated with transaction fees. Indeed, on average all exchanges provide a flat fee for each coin withdrawal and the fees also vary.

What do you mean accumulated with transaction fees? Because as far as I know, withdrawal fee is somehow the same as a transaction fee because we can consider taking money out of the exchange as a transaction already, then we shouldn't not separate the transactions fees and the withdrawal fees as they both contribute to the increase of market price of cryptocurrency. For example, if we are to create transactions in cryptocurrency, we need to accept that not the entirety of our offer will be delivered exactly how much it should be. And that is because of the transactions fee as well.
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December 18, 2019, 05:14:32 PM
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It looks like the fees charged by the exchange when making a withdrawal, it is not a transaction fee but it is a withdrawal fee which has been accumulated with transaction fees. Indeed, on average all exchanges provide a flat fee for each coin withdrawal and the fees also vary.

What do you mean accumulated with transaction fees? Because as far as I know, withdrawal fee is somehow the same as a transaction fee

accumulated means overall    . there are many kinds of transaction fee and one of them is wd fee  . 

@op it was a year old and the price of btc that time where not same compare to today  so its not good to refer on old post for fees but you need the updated or the current one  .

fees also change depending on the amount or depending on the wallet/platform that you are using  . 
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December 18, 2019, 05:45:05 PM
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One of the innovative ideas with Bitcoin is that you get to decide how much you want to pay in fees. Miners choose which transactions they want to prioritize when processing transactions, so obviously they will take the transactions with the higher fees since they get the fees as a reward. So depending on how quick you need your transaction to be confirmed, you can decide how much to pay in fees.
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So true. This is one of the most effective and useful innovations. We can determine fees at will, adjusted to our individual needs, can be set sooner or later. The faster the transaction, the higher the fee charged. This is what I like, so fees follow the percentage of funds that we take or send, and based on speed, are very effective. These fees also vary in percentage at each exchange and sometimes some are affected by changes in the price of an altcoin.

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December 18, 2019, 05:47:59 PM
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I'm thinking of setting up an account with either Coin Base or Electrum.
Coinbase is an online service&crypto exchange and Electrum is just a desktop/mobile wallet. These are two completely different things, with first you buy/sell crypto and you need to do KYC (Know Your Customer) by verifying your account with the documents you will send to them. On the other hand, Electrum is a wallet that you will download and use for free, without any KYC and with one more most important thing - you will be in full control of your private keys.

I advise you to become familiar with all the concepts and basics before investing in BTC, and especially be careful with fake pages (phishing) which can cause a loss of your funds, by typing your login data to a fake site, or by download fake wallet (Electrum). I advise you to always use AdBlock for your browser, it will block most of the bad sites showed by Google.

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December 18, 2019, 06:30:27 PM
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I'm thinking of setting up an account with either Coin Base or Electrum.  Hope I'm not breaking any rules with this comment.

You can easily setup an Electrum wallet within minutes because it's a personal wallet and you have control over your wallet and you are responsible to keep your private keys but on Coinbase which is an online wallet which provides service for buying and selling bitcoin. To use coinbase, you will need to go through identity verification and there's also limits with some ridiculous fees especially when bitcoin blockchain gets congested.
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December 18, 2019, 07:02:59 PM
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I use mycelium. It works great and can scan QR codes. It if very quick to set up and makes backing up your private key easy and you will not forget. The wallet is sigwit I think and I pay right now about $0.50 to send a btc transaction. You install it on your phone and your phone becomes your "hardware wallet" I use it as a wallet to spend and keep my main amount on a ledger nano s.

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December 18, 2019, 07:06:29 PM
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I'm thinking of setting up an account with either Coin Base or Electrum.  Hope I'm not breaking any rules with this comment.
You're not.

Electrum is a good choice though just make sure that you're downloading from the main website of it because there's a lot of fake websites that are imitating electrum.

https://electrum.org/#home

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December 18, 2019, 09:37:08 PM
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Ok I like the Electrum wallet because from my limited research it seems one of the more secure wallets.  I could store everything on a USB drive.  Any recommendations on a bitcoin exchange for purchasing Bit Coins?
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December 18, 2019, 10:30:44 PM
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New to Bit Coin and trying to wrap my hands around the fee structure.  An internet post, about a year old said 0.2 mBTC.  I searched the internet and nothing makes sense.  I looking into setting up an account to fund my on line poker account.

What is the fee for transferring $500 US dollars?

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DO yourself a favor and force it to the smallest possible amount, which is 1 sat/B. Some wallets (but not all) allow you to manually force it a value. After that, do the transfer and wait like a day.

The fee is not really related to the amount, but the number of sources used. If all 500 USD come from a single source, it is something like 100 sats. But if its a few, like 4 or 5, maybe about 500 sats.

I don't do mBTC; but that amount sounds obscenely high. Most people do not need anything more than 1 sat per byte. Ask yourself the question: Can you wait a day? If yes, do it and with a proper wallet, in case of emergency, you can even accelerate it later yourself by adding more money to the fee, something that should almost never occur.

Simply put, the people paying more want it faster, but it is a competition. In the end paying a bit more would very likely give the same result, reduce the time to an hour or so. Not worth in my opinion, i disagree with wallet's current trend of "guessing best" fees, that's the kind of thing that unleashes artificial fee madness, as it creates a domino effect when "something abnormal" happens.

Just wait it out, and don't use Bitcoin for instant transactions, leave that for LN when its time comes. You'll be happier too. Consider banks, wire transfer takes days and even weeks when international. A day or two for a few sats is dirt cheap and "lightning" fast in comparison. Doesn't even need "out of chain" acceleration...

Unfortunately most online wallets, such as those in exchanges or gambling sites, don't let you set the transfer fee and impose you arbitrary rates (in addition to theirs).

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