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December 21, 2019, 11:59:31 AM
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In fact, no investor wants to support a scam project. But scammers are smart and they can marketing a scam project to investors like a real project. Therefore, a lot of detailed research is needed to analyze the project. And we should not make any investment in this project without having detailed information about any project.
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December 21, 2019, 12:02:29 PM
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Deceptive, inefficient or fraudulent altcoin projects must be terminated as soon as possible. There are currently a lot of cryptocurrencies on the market, and the disappointment here is that the number of fake or ineffective altcoins is very much.
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December 21, 2019, 12:05:51 PM
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Let's be honest with ourselves here.
As far back as I can remember, the altcoin sector has always been kind of a joke.

Even back in 2013-2015 before Ethereum tokens came up, there was dozens of "coins" that came up each week.
CatCoin, VelocityCoin, NXTTYcoin, Datacoin, Memorycoin, BBQcoin and so on.

For 100 of them that came up each week, 1 may still be mined today, meaning they kept their usage value over time.

I don't care about vices, I don't care if you lose your investment,  I don't care if you get scammed, we all make mistakes, and at the end of the day, it's all education.
If you lose tour enthusiasm because of that, then you never actually had true enthusiasm.

And frankly, even we need to shield 100 shit projects in order to get 1 good crypto over time, then I'm perfectly fine with it.


The only difference between 2013 and now, is that people actually had to give up power/money to mine a coin, whereas today most of that payload is assumed by Ethereum miners.

Old timers will know that, each of what you call "scam, fake or unproductive" token projects have already been invented dozens of time in the past, within a different form.

They just disappeared into oblivion because no one mines them anymore, but just have a look at coinmarketcap.com historical snapshots combined to web.archive.org, and you'll see that pretty much everything have been invented or tried years ago, within a different form.
Most likely the timing wasnt right,  people thought these were dumb ideas, dumb projects " unproductive projects " and so on.  And so what ?

We need to try and keep trying, Ethereum tokens have made it easy to create a LOT of crypto projects, so even if we have 1000 shit projects coming up every week, if even 1% ends up being useful projects over time, that's still amazing to me, and a big win for our industry.



Please, keep creating scam, fake, and unproductive altcoin projects. That's by moving fast and breaking things that we'll make cool things, eventually.


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December 21, 2019, 12:18:33 PM
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Let's be honest with ourselves here.
As far back as I can remember, the altcoin sector has always been kind of a joke.

Even back in 2013-2015 before Ethereum tokens came up, there was dozens of "coins" that came up each week.
CatCoin, VelocityCoin, NXTTYcoin, Datacoin, Memorycoin, BBQcoin and so on.

For 100 of them that came up each week, 1 may still be mined today, meaning they kept their usage value over time.

I don't care about vices, I don't care if you lose your investment,  I don't care if you get scammed, we all make mistakes, and at the end of the day, it's all education.
If you lose tour enthusiasm because of that, then you never actually had true enthusiasm.

And frankly, even we need to shield 100 shit projects in order to get 1 good crypto over time, then I'm perfectly fine with it.


The only difference between 2013 and now, is that people actually had to give up power/money to mine a coin, whereas today most of that payload is assumed by Ethereum miners.

Old timers will know that, each of what you call "scam, fake or unproductive" token projects have already been invented dozens of time in the past, within a different form.

They just disappeared into oblivion because no one mines them anymore, but just have a look at coinmarketcap.com historical snapshots combined to web.archive.org, and you'll see that pretty much everything have been invented or tried years ago, within a different form.
Most likely the timing wasnt right,  people thought these were dumb ideas, dumb projects " unproductive projects " and so on.  And so what ?

We need to try and keep trying, Ethereum tokens have made it easy to create a LOT of crypto projects, so even if we have 1000 shit projects coming up every week, if even 1% ends up being useful projects over time, that's still amazing to me, and a big win for our industry.



Please, keep creating scam, fake, and unproductive altcoin projects. That's by moving fast and breaking things that we'll make cool things, eventually.




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December 21, 2019, 12:47:07 PM
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At first, you wouldn't know that a project is a scam or not. Because if you knew, why would you support and promote it at first? I happens that after gaining much attention, then you'll just end up knowing that project was actually a scam and you yourself got scammed by promoting something that is a scam. Just like how normally scammers do, showing the beautiful side and making you believe about this and that, and after falling for it, they'll show theit thru image. We just have to be wise in choosing projects to avoid scam

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December 21, 2019, 01:07:41 PM
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At first, you wouldn't know that a project is a scam or not. Because if you knew, why would you support and promote it at first? I happens that after gaining much attention, then you'll just end up knowing that project was actually a scam and you yourself got scammed by promoting something that is a scam. Just like how normally scammers do, showing the beautiful side and making you believe about this and that, and after falling for it, they'll show theit thru image. We just have to be wise in choosing projects to avoid scam

it's difficult to find projects that are pure and can generate profits, so we can only determine the likelihood of that happening and for example we can choose the bounty participants will choose the project that pays them rather than having to promote a scam project

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December 21, 2019, 01:09:56 PM
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I think there must be one forum or website from our HERO or Legendary members as they have a lot of experience in Crypto trading, investing where they mention the legit project also highlight the scam ICO, IEO. To protect investors and also to save the precious time of bounty hunters.

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December 21, 2019, 01:11:52 PM
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I will become more responsible for our actions for a good course ahead. I will also be more careful not to discredit and not make the altcoin field a joke.
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December 21, 2019, 01:22:41 PM
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the situation will at least always change every year and not always this industry continues to get a good improvement and not always this industry will only decline from time to time. so there is a time for us to support each project but when the situation becomes more negative, then that's when whatever support we do will at least remain difficult to get a good income

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December 21, 2019, 01:56:36 PM
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With what I can understand what altcoins are now wasn't what they were before, it was more productive, more realistic and made getting on board cryptocurrency more diverse you don't always have to base on Bitcoin.
 But the problem now are different. Everywhere is filled with altcoins the more populated it becomes the More exposed it is to drop in utility.

While all this problems are happening to altcoins we also can part of this issue. Shielding, advocating and support project that are clear to fail for any financial gain or so on.
 By standing with those sort of project you can
+Get investors scammed or regret why they invested
+ Lose your credibility as a cryptocurrency enthusiast
+ Make the altcoin sector become a total joke
And many vices.
Let's become more responsible with our action for a good course

Right now for me, there is no need for a new coin that will do ICO, if they want to get funded they should find a way like pooling all their resources to come up with the amount they need and not asking the general public to do it for them, investors and bounty hunters has had enough, they will only invest and promote if they see your project in the market and doing great.

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December 21, 2019, 02:03:23 PM
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With what I can understand what altcoins are now wasn't what they were before, it was more productive, more realistic and made getting on board cryptocurrency more diverse you don't always have to base on Bitcoin.
 But the problem now are different. Everywhere is filled with altcoins the more populated it becomes the More exposed it is to drop in utility.

While all this problems are happening to altcoins we also can part of this issue. Shielding, advocating and support project that are clear to fail for any financial gain or so on.
 By standing with those sort of project you can
+Get investors scammed or regret why they invested
+ Lose your credibility as a cryptocurrency enthusiast
+ Make the altcoin sector become a total joke
And many vices.
Let's become more responsible with our action for a good course

Maybe the peopl who promoted the project is having a big expectation before the project realease and don't expect the project will be a scam project though. As a crypto enthusiast we have to having a positive mind about a new project in cryptocurrency because it will rise investors, but we have to choose a really good potential project to promote so we won't lost investors in the future
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December 21, 2019, 02:04:59 PM
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the situation will at least always change every year and not always this industry continues to get a good improvement and not always this industry will only decline from time to time. so there is a time for us to support each project but when the situation becomes more negative, then that's when whatever support we do will at least remain difficult to get a good income
This also depends on the conditions because certainly there will not always be a project that gives good results every time, so we really have to be more selective when choosing projects. when the project is good then we can support it fully but if it is not good then it is better not to support the project and if there is indication of fraud immediately report it
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December 21, 2019, 02:32:39 PM
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I will become more responsible for our actions for a good course ahead. I will also be more careful not to discredit and not make the altcoin field a joke.
Yes, and every action we take is absolutely our responsibility, that's why we must be more careful in choosing the altcoin project and always use research before participating in the altcoin project, because now there are so many fake alltcoin projects.

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December 21, 2019, 02:58:48 PM
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Since the time ETH offers tokenization of everything, companies are seeing it like they can be part of the market and distribute wealth thru the tokens they give to their investors. Though these projects are every centralize, investors are seeing it like its not because its using blockchain. Some of the projects just release a token that doesn't even have any usecase in the platform they built which is why it doesn't have a value in the end.

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With what I can understand what altcoins are now wasn't what they were before, it was more productive, more realistic and made getting on board cryptocurrency more diverse you don't always have to base on Bitcoin.
 But the problem now are different. Everywhere is filled with altcoins the more populated it becomes the More exposed it is to drop in utility.

While all this problems are happening to altcoins we also can part of this issue. Shielding, advocating and support project that are clear to fail for any financial gain or so on.
 By standing with those sort of project you can
+Get investors scammed or regret why they invested
+ Lose your credibility as a cryptocurrency enthusiast
+ Make the altcoin sector become a total joke
And many vices.
Let's become more responsible with our action for a good course

That is true, promoting any scam project can reduce credibility of any crypto enthusiast but the prime concern is how to identify the scam projects. Every scam project poses as worth investing in the beginning, a good team, a good roadmap backed by a good concept, it attracts many investors and then run with their money. There must be some regulations to stop these scammers. Noone wants to promote a scam project but identifying it is a big concern always.

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December 21, 2019, 03:40:00 PM
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Although i am bounty participants, to be honest i never suggest people to make investment before they do any research. Or maybe only make investment for a coin that already in market for long time, and it means old altcoins. Because as bounty participant, usually i look project that i really expect it can give big rewards and make profit. But with that standard, i still afraid to suggest other people to do it.

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December 21, 2019, 03:43:38 PM
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Every big scam projects always have an idea to share, always have something good to offer, if they don't do this how will investors fall for them? Scam projects can't be detect if they are well organized until they turned scam
in my experience when looking for a project that in my opinion is not a scam so far, these projects make subtle project details, starting from the concept of the project and the video and looks very real. What's worse is when many investors support it and even investors could take advantage of the project and eventually scam
Yes it's hard to detect ICO scam now because scammers are also smart now and they can easily create fake ico campaign that all factors we need to see before investing are already adopt by this professional scammers. So all we need to now is take the rist because legit campaigns are the that successful and already listed in market and have good price.
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December 21, 2019, 04:29:16 PM
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Always triple check every single project and invest a lot of time in reading whitepaper and all that stuff, because at the end it would save you huge money. It is getting harder and harder to detect them, but if you invest enough effort, it is still possible.


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December 21, 2019, 05:00:29 PM
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so even if we have 1000 shit projects coming up every week, if even 1% ends up being useful projects over time, that's still amazing to me, and a big win for our industry.
Our industry imo doesn't need this, the altcoin "industry" doesn't need to have to have a low success rate of new projects and still believe it's fine that at least one or two came out successful, with that mindset, in the long run the altcoin market may disappear. When investors have to struggle with over 2000 projects to get one good one, they may have to try for a very long time before they get lucky, that's if they don't run out of patience.

The big win for our industry will be if this money hungry project owners will stop creating shit projects, as they are making it very difficult for the would-be successful ones to breathe and also for investors to find them.



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December 21, 2019, 06:06:03 PM
 #80

So far, searching for an honest project to invest your money in it has become like finding a white crow, with the large number of new altcoins projects that turn into a scam or fail or that do not fulfill their promises, investment and work in cryptocurrencies has become difficult for the investor and for the bounty hunters,  We should all stand together in the review of new projects in an Announcements (Altcoins) section and write our reviews and inquire about all our concerns so we do not fall into machinations of scammers.

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