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If you are in India you may aware of how serious the protests are getting all over the India against CAB,but until now Modi Ji government said nothing all they tried to do is to supress the protest by using police attacks on silent protests,banning internet on the major cities unofficially and protests from their party members with paid protestants who supports CAB.
So protest doesn't giving the solution then what is should be?
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December 22, 2019, 12:39:25 AM Last edit: December 22, 2019, 01:30:37 AM by franky1 |
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protests are not a vote or a legit thing. its just groups of people hanging around a building
however if they organised all these people who want to protest to sign a petition that they will vote not in favour of a particular politcian, and what the politician must to to win their favour, then that can sway politicians
just begging for change does not harm a government. but showing that without change, bad things can affect the government .. thus it has more power to cause change. such as not voting them in next election. showing how a strike of a particular industry will hurt the reputation of the politician
most politicians only care about their current term in office, anything they dont want to be involved in they push the time limit/target into the distant future to make it someone elses problem. anything they are interested in they rush it into happening so just standing around chanting does nothing for or against a politicians motivations. so instead learn what the politicians motivations are and arrange a strategy that impact those motivations
things like the greta girl and climate change. just protesting "things need to change" does nothing. she is not actually making a demand of a particular target and solution. she is just shouting things need to change if she instead held governments to account by saying X tree's per land area need to be planted. raising of sea/river walls to reduce flood risks .. you know made an actual list of demands. and then set a punishment if those things were not done. then things can change the paris agreement on climate change does not actually have hard targets. nor hard punishments. so even if she screams loud enough to get more countries tosign. they still are not then obligated to cause any real change making her efforts wasted
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December 22, 2019, 04:50:05 AM |
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however if they organised all these people who want to protest to sign a petition that they will vote not in favour of a particular politcian, and what the politician must to to win their favour, then that can sway politicians
It have its risks but if there's enough signatures in there, those politicians might change their minds. Something online like Change.org might be good since you can collect petitions from everywhere. One town in my country was able to force a power company to abandon plans of building a coal plant near their community with just 4k signatures. Heck, they even managed to have a president reinstate an official he "relieved" from office after making a contradictory statement at just 3k votes. Do this in conjunction with a physical signature drive to send to congress.
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Many India people are so fed up with the British who ruled them for so long, that they won't even use the government the Brits left behind. Instead of using jury rule, they are stepping back into their religious governments, and are thereby destroying the only chance they have for freedom. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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If you are in India you may aware of how serious the protests are getting all over the India against CAB,but until now Modi Ji government said nothing all they tried to do is to supress the protest by using police attacks on silent protests,banning internet on the major cities unofficially and protests from their party members with paid protestants who supports CAB.
So protest doesn't giving the solution then what is should be?
@akram143 I’m not from India but in my country there’re many Indians and these protests are a hot topic out here, but in my opinion these protests are not effective because there’s no positive response yet from the Indian government. The only option you’ll can exercise is to file suits in Court and pray that the judge will rule in your favour, but if the judge rules in governments favour then you’ll can do nothing about it.
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December 22, 2019, 03:34:30 PM |
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If you are in India you may aware of how serious the protests are getting all over the India against CAB,but until now Modi Ji government said nothing all they tried to do is to supress the protest by using police attacks on silent protests,banning internet on the major cities unofficially and protests from their party members with paid protestants who supports CAB.
So protest doesn't giving the solution then what is should be?
India is presently doing religion-based politics within the country wherever Muslims area unit suffering the best loss but, the complete world ought to stand by the Muslims of Asian nation currently the rationale is that they need to destroy a whole nation it's truly a violation of human rights.
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December 22, 2019, 03:46:38 PM |
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If you are in India you may aware of how serious the protests are getting all over the India against CAB,but until now Modi Ji government said nothing all they tried to do is to supress the protest by using police attacks on silent protests,banning internet on the major cities unofficially and protests from their party members with paid protestants who supports CAB.
So protest doesn't giving the solution then what is should be?
Can't say that. I'm not an expert on India either but the bill was just to support the displaced people from religious minorities in the nearby Muslim countries. I don't think Indian court give death sentence for speaking out about your thought about religion and god. But can't also ignore the rise of Hindu extremist. All sort of extremism should be neutralized.
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December 22, 2019, 04:39:04 PM |
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Many India people are so fed up with the British who ruled them for so long, that they won't even use the government the Brits left behind. Instead of using jury rule, they are stepping back into their religious governments, and are thereby destroying the only chance they have for freedom. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Which government are you talking about in a democracy ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . The current situation is that religious fanatics are in power (yeah they won the elections and hence they came into power) and there is nothing that can be done and majority of the literate people feel like the same Hitler regime in Nazi Germany where they rally people with false promise and right now they are dividing people in the name of religion which is absurd. India is a secular country and the present government wants to create these atrocities in the streets and i hope that the supreme court will intervene to reject an unconstitutional law.
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Which government are you talking about in a democracy ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) . The current situation is that religious fanatics are in power (yeah they won the elections and hence they came into power) and there is nothing that can be done and majority of the literate people feel like the same Hitler regime in Nazi Germany where they rally people with false promise and right now they are dividing people in the name of religion which is absurd. India is a secular country and the present government wants to create these atrocities in the streets and i hope that the supreme court will intervene to reject an unconstitutional law. A great example the historical chapter in the world political-religious is main factor used in India government very one of the bad things last one-year hundreds off day shutdown internet access without any reason dont be like this political system From what we are seeing now, I can understand that the government of a country is controlling the judiciary of that country.
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December 22, 2019, 05:19:21 PM |
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First of all, if you want to change your country you need to properly select a good and honest leader and also smart because what's good in being good and kind if you're not fit for the position, that's why brains is also important. India has the most intelligent people from my perspective and is leading in technology and cyber security with proper leadership it could quickly develop as an first world country.
No one expecting the current ruling party to win on the second time because they never done anything good for the people since 2014 but again they won more places than before and also still some talks that they are cheating election results with EVM machine but nothing was found yet and Modi ji keep doing the things what he wants and also he never forget to explore the world with expensive coat from people's tax money.
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Protest is a healthy thing if people do it in a civilized manner and actually got something to offer instead of just bashing on the current state of affairs
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It isn't certain that protest give out solutions to the problems but rather it gives out the solution THEY want for the problem, the ANSWER they want for the problem. The government then refuses to acknowledge the answer either because of A. They're wrong, but they refuse to acknowledge it and they have no way to correct it now, so they just suppress them B. The answer given by the protestants is good, but it isn't enough. The government ( maybe) Look at it at a bigger scale and think of possible repercussions of their answers. C. They just don't bloody listen to the protestants cause they believe plebians don't uphold the right to join them in discussions. Protest are a good thing if the people doing it actually know WHAT they are doing. As for what is happening in India right now, I'd say the government just refuses to acknowledge their ideas. As for the reason? I'm not particularly sure about it.
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~snip A great example the historical chapter in the world political-religious is main factor used in India government very one of the bad things last one-year hundreds off day shutdown internet access without any reason dont be like this political system From what we are seeing now, I can understand that the government of a country is controlling the judiciary of that country.
Seriously when i heard about this, i thought i was living in some dictatorship where your internet connection is basically shut down and the media personalities are arrested for capturing the protest, it all resembles of the Emergency declared by Indira Gandhi during the 70s and now people are living in that same situation basically, i am basically from Kerala where the BJP will never win a single seat in any election and never had and hence when i see all these forced atrocities by BJP fanatics i hope people will think twice when they go to the election booth next time, you want a peaceful life or some mad fanatics ruling the country.
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Maybe it can show how or what the people want but actually I think that if there has a research if the government can help by conducting a survey then it must be good and also if they show on what they suggestion for the government because there are a lot of things would be disturb by acting a protest. Actually it can show the problem but it can add some problem by the protestants. It depends on the government on how they run their administration and we can't help by putting a physical way.
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Seriously when i heard about this, i thought i was living in some dictatorship where your internet connection is basically shut down and the media personalities are arrested for capturing the protest, it all resembles of the Emergency declared by Indira Gandhi during the 70s and now people are living in that same situation basically, i am basically from Kerala where the BJP will never win a single seat in any election and never had and hence when i see all these forced atrocities by BJP fanatics i hope people will think twice when they go to the election booth next time, you want a peaceful life or some mad fanatics ruling the country.
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Politicians never take protests serious. And also people forget fast. Sometimes protests are turning backwards and have the opposite effect, due to the fact that many people get frustrated or tired because they cannot go to work or return home because of protests.
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December 24, 2019, 04:48:46 AM |
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I read a news that US media released an article which portrays MODI the current president on India as Hitler because both of them have similar idea to be followed to bring changes in their country.
I did watched a video in the translated version,someone did have original link to that?
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Politicians never take protests serious. And also people forget fast. Sometimes protests are turning backwards and have the opposite effect, due to the fact that many people get frustrated or tired because they cannot go to work or return home because of protests.
That's why it shows that the poverty haven't any power to control on what happen because they can't do for the country to fight because they are the one who seriously affected. Especially they need to work for them in able to be alive for a day. Protest can show on what they want but it depend always on the government.
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To get a reasonable outcome from protecting against government decision the people leading the agitation should be firm in their decision to lead for good and not to be bought over by the same government they are protesting against. It the reason for the protest is strong enough to encourage more people in that country to support the movement then at the end you guys will achieve your aims even if government should pay some people in their support you guys will win at the end. But once your reason is not genuine enough to attract good numbers of followers then you guys may not likely get good result at the end.
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