Prejudice against signature campaigns

[Captain Corporate]

 I understand that some people with signature campaigns do not provide anything to a discussion and they just write silly unintelligent idiotic things that doesn't improve the discussion at all.

 However its also mean to assume people who have signature campaigns all are idiots. There are people who write here for writing sake and there is an option of making money for something you will do anyway and those people just take advantage of that. Hell there are some who are signature campaign participatents and still don't fill the max quote for it and make less money than they could maximum make.

 So all in all just because someone has a signature campaign doesn't mean they are idiots, doesn't mean they are not neither but just because you see someone with a signature doesn't mean anything, they are literally the same people with the ones who do not have signature campaign as well.

 Stop the hate against people who have signature campaigns.

[Rikafip]

I haven't felt any prejudice, and I am in signature campaign. Majority of  active high ranking members on the  forum are in some signature campaign, so i doubt that there is some wide spread  hate going   on against signature campaigns in general.

But if you are shitposter/spammer and join campaign that condone that kind of posting behaviour, then you can expect some.

[Jet Cash]

Sig spammers should stop the hate against people who hate sig spammers. If you choose a despised profession, then learn to live with the hate.

[Sanitough]

Was there a hate for people with signature in their profile?

Well, signature campaign is an effective way to promote business, so a business would pay money for exposure and they don't really care about whether a member would spam or not. The job here should be done by the campaign manager, if you trust a certain campaign manager, you should also trust his judgement on selecting a campaign participants.

Also, we cannot deny the fact that people are inspired in participating in the forum when they are in a signature campaign, ..

[Bttzed03]

Meh, even some participants attack members wearing another signature campaign. I can't remember who that user is, but he/she quickly judged our comments as spam because we were wearing the same signature.

[arbiter5]

My guess is that most of the people who are so hard against signature campaigns are mostly financially secure people in wealthy countries. They're so cocky that they're forgetting that there are people in poor countries that are in need of extra income, but at the same time actually passionate about bitcoin. I don't see a single problem in earning sats by simply talking to people. Yes, there are spammers, but the problem is mostly on some of the campaign managers. If they were stricter, there would be less spammers.

[rhomelmabini]

If the administrator allows it then don't feel any prejudice feelings over it. Stop the hate to those who love making money over a signature campaign AFAIK most of us do love it.

[hd49728]

The admin has sticked to the vision to grow the forum up as openly discussion place as possible.

But he might shut down the signature industry at anytime he want if the forum and its systems (one of them is the merit system and report) fail to control spams.

If you are good posters, most of the others (not all, definitely) will love you and your posts. They don't hate you only because of the signature you wear, paid or unpaid. They hate you only or mainly if you continuously or always post shitposts and spoil the forum with zero-value posts.

I wrote something about that months ago, but less regularly bump these topics.
Since 2018, what did you contribute to prevent signature ads removed globally?
Cleaning up the house in Bitcoin/ Altcoin/ Gambling Discussion boards

[sheenshane]

If you are here in the forum wearing signature from any campaign and you got paid by them but you are spamming and trolling, you deserve to be hated with someone else, especially on DT members or the manager that you are working with. As long as you contributed and a good poster, your account will be fine.

Forum created to have a good and concrete conversation not just by mean you are allowed to spam, either wearing sig or not, be responsible as a forum member. 100% sure, no one will hate you.

If you got paid by the signature that you are wearing, just to make it sure that your posts/replies are worth it and deserving for a penny you will receive after a week.

[Ziskinberg]

We can't please everyone, that's the reality and we can't deny that signature campaign in the forum help increase the traffic of the forum, if not, Admin had already disable the signature a long time ago.

Just like in the world we are living now, there are people who follow the law and there are people who violate the law
If we compare it with signature campaign, there are members who are spammers and there are good contributor, live with it as that's the reality.

[shield132]

Stop the hate against people who have signature campaigns.

Well, from now on, everyone will stop.
Don't get me wrong but this is another useless thread that has no reason to exist. The reason why did you open this thread? Does it really hurts you? Can't you sleep because of thinking about this problem? Is it so sensitive for you? I hugely, hugely doubt.
Everyone knows that they have ignore option on this forum and that works 100% without issues. For bonus, I provide you with DannyHamilton's personal ignore list: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=973843.0

[gentlemand]

I see nothing wrong with hating campaigns if they're uncontrolled. Without a firm hand they unquestionably do make the forum worse. Many posters are such mindless hookers that if a campaign paid them to post 100 pictures of items inserted in their sphincter a day several thousand would sign up in an instant.

The ones I don't get are those who automatically ignore every single person with a signature. That must make this forum an extremely sparse read.

[Wexnident]

It's not people whom have signature campaigns they hate, it's the spams and shiz they do that doesn't really contribute in the forum. It doesn't mean that people hate users with signature campaigns. Sides, some people reaaaalllyy take advantage of the fact that users can make multiple accounts, and so, create bots and spams and literally just write copy pastas often in the threads others make, littering it with mostly useless stuff that the threadstarter doesn't really need to read, but has to cause it might actually provide good info, but it doesnt.

Sides, can't really stop them now can you. They hate what they hate, they like what they like

[TheBeardedBaby]

The hate is against the signature spam not the signature campaigns in general. 90% of the projects announced are just useless tokens which are made with the sole purpose to enrich the creator and turn to be a scam at the end, others never get exposed enough to gain attention and just dying slowly.

[YOSHIE]

However its also mean to assume people who have signature campaigns all are idiots.

You should not be prejudiced to other members doing things you don't like, the forum has been running for 10 years more people have knowledge about crypto here including you.
So, if it wasn't for something certain what you are here for ...
If only to spread prejudice and lies.
The sig campaign, is also an advertisement and information needed by the wider community through bitcointalk forums, there are no idiots here except spamer.

one eats jackfruit, everyone gets the sap
= a person who makes a mistake in order to fulfill his pleasure, but others also bear the consequences.

[ahmedjamal1998]

 I understand that some people with signature campaigns do not provide anything to a discussion and they just write silly unintelligent idiotic things that doesn't improve the discussion at all.

Tbh, I managed a fair amount of campaigns in the past and YES a lot of participants literally wrote whatever they could just to be able to get the required amount of posts to get the money. Even if it added nothing to the discussion. They would even just copy of couple of sentences here and there and press "post".

I usually kicked those out and gave  them nothing.

But at the same time there were members who were casually hanging out on the forum and are bringing something useful to the table and just thought about why not earning a bit while I'm doing it anyway.

These were my favorite.

So yeah like everything else, there's good and there's bad and there's no need to feel any prejudice if you're one of the good ones.

[hosseinimr93]

I am sure there isn't anyone in the forum hate a user because of participating in a signature campaign. Users hate those who spam and doesn't matter if the spammer is participating in a campaign or not. As long as a user makes constructive posts, there is no problem.
There are many users in the forum that help the forum to be a better place, make useful posts and cause the forum to be more helpful for others. Signature campaigns can encourage these users to spend more time in the forum. Maybe a user cannot spend more than an hour in day in the forum, gradually get tired and leave the forum. But signature campaigns makes that user to spend more time in the forum. As long as the user,makes constructive posts, this helps the forum and the user as well.
Generally, signature campaigns are very helpful to the forum.

[BrewMaster]

there are always a few who ruin it for everyone.

in case of signature campaigns there have been lots of spammers and a bunch of signature campaigns that didn't care (such as Yobit, or majority of ICO campaigns). the result was a very large amount of spam everywhere you looked.
which is why i can understand why some people would hate everyone who is in a signature campaign specially when some users aren't regular visitors and don't follow the drama these campaigns cause.

[Lucius]

I understand that some people with signature campaigns do not provide anything to a discussion and they just write silly unintelligent idiotic things that doesn't improve the discussion at all.

There is a very effective solution for signature spammers, report them to their campaign managers or to mods with help of "Report to moderator" button. The first choice is certainly better, because each decent campaign manager will remove such a user, and maybe even add them to black list.

Stop the hate against people who have signature campaigns.

At this forum, as well as in real life there is a lot of hate, but also love. I wouldn't say it's hate in most cases, it's mostly envy that stems from the fact that not everyone can be in top paid campaigns. Most of those who are invested effort and time have the privilege of participating in signature campaigns, and if anyone hates us for it, so be it, hate is very bad for health...

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Sig spammers should stop the hate against people who hate sig spammers. If you choose a despised profession, then learn to live with the hate.

I don't hate any members who are in sig campaigns.  I hate spam, period.  And yes, it drives me nuts that pretty much all of these shitposters are in bounties or campaigns, because they're getting paid to dilute whatever good posts there are on this forum.

Not everyone who's in a campaign is a shitposter of course.  Chipmixer's campaign is a great example of that, but it's the exception to the general rule.  Oh, by the way, if you want to check out what happens when you run a paid-to-post program with no selection criteria, take a look at how cryptotalk.org is doing.  I can barely look at the posts being made there for more than a minute at a time, that's how bad they are.  I've seen posts that have to be plagiarized and posts that look like they were written by bots and everything in between.  It's a joke of a forum, and that would be the fate of bitcointalk if it wasn't for all that "hate" directed against sig spammers.