Trust abuse by Atobmixer

[LoyceV]

I need a reference topic for a neutral tag:

Trust abuse, see Reference link.
I wouldn't trust a service that responds to valid concerns with negative feedback. See https://archive.is/lxboQ and judge for yourself.

User Atobmixer is abusing feedback:


Please read LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system and don't use negative feedback when you don't like someone's opinion.

No spam
Self-moderated to stop spam. Atobmixer is allowed to respond here, but his posts should be on-topic and shouldn't look like he's advertising.

[TryNinja]

TIL asking for a mixer to implement an address validator to avoid losses is imoral.

I didn’t notice the neg feedback until I saw your post, so thanks.

Also, be careful Loyce, you are using ChipMixer’s signature so you can’t criticize other mixers.

[LoyceV]

Also, be careful Loyce, you are using ChipMixer’s signature so you can’t criticize other mixers.

Lol. Now where have I seen that before?

[Atobmixer]

WARNING: I would advise people to be extremely careful with this mixer. They were one of the random mixers that were being suggested by a shady user from a random "mixing review website". Their website is pretty basic and looks like it was done by someone after watching a few PHP + HTML tutorials in the internet.

You don't actually even need to input your receiving address to start mixing. There is no verification whatsoever. Extremely amateur job. And too many scam mixers are appearing out from nowhere these days.

Playing victim ? You just used the word scam and our services on the same line as a very deceiving method of marketing Chipmixer.
Lets see if Chip mixer will be happy to see their name on the same line with "FBI hosted services" on google search results from 32 different domain name

[LoyceV]

Please stay on-topic.

[Bttzed03]

WARNING: I would advise people to be extremely careful with this mixer. They were one of the random mixers that were being suggested by a shady user from a random "mixing review website". Their website is pretty basic and looks like it was done by someone after watching a few PHP + HTML tutorials in the internet.

You don't actually even need to input your receiving address to start mixing. There is no verification whatsoever. Extremely amateur job. And too many scam mixers are appearing out from nowhere these days.

Playing victim ? You just used the word scam and our services on the same line as a very deceiving method of marketing Chipmixer.
Lets see if Chip mixer will be happy to see their name on the same line with "FBI hosted services" on google search results from 32 different domain name

It's not about playing the victim card whatsoever. This is about the use of the Trust system which, I also think, you are abusing. Leaving a negative feedback to users who have a different opinion about your services is unnecessary. Counter every argument they throw at you in your own thread and not on their profiles.

[Atobmixer]

ohhh ic ic, so thats not how you use the trust system,
so where do u attach info on a person just gives negative remarks on a services just based on nothing ?
open a new thread with feedback ? i am new to this forum and there is just too many rules , i am on many other forums and thats not how it works there

[Bttzed03]

so where do u attach info on a person just gives negative remarks on a services just based on nothing ?
open a new thread with feedback ?

You are free to open a thread in this board (Reputation) and call them out for their negative remarks if you wish. Before doing that, you might want to change your negative feedback on their profile to neutral first.

i am new to this forum and there is just too many rules , i am on many other forums and thats not how it works there

Well, if you are really interested in building your reputation and promoting your services here, you gotta read the rules/guidelines. You can start with LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system in the OP. 

[marlboroza]

I think their main concern is that someone said correct thing while having chipmixer's signature on, I wonder how they would have reacted if someone had posted the same thing from account which isn't in any signature campaign.

Lets see if Chip mixer will be happy to see their name on the same line with "FBI hosted services" on google search results from 32 different domain name

Are you trying to silence users with threats? Chipmixer's signature is not forbidding users to speak true and share their opinion, like it or not.

[Atobmixer]

I think their main concern is that someone said correct thing while having chipmixer's signature on, I wonder how they would have reacted if someone had posted the same thing from account which isn't in any signature campaign.

Lets see if Chip mixer will be happy to see their name on the same line with "FBI hosted services" on google search results from 32 different domain name

Are you trying to silence users with threats? Chipmixer's signature is not forbidding users to speak true and share their opinion, like it or not.

nononono omg no, keep speaking up, Chipmixer has used agents like you to suppress other honest services like atobmixer.com that has zero fraud records , and this chipmixer agents keeps on talking bad about other services and calling them scam without even being scammed by this services ... So we Chinese  are pissed and we wanna play the same game, just on a bigger scale using google , what you give is what you get. what you guys are doing is called negative marketing, putting down other services to look superior,

We will play the same game .

[marlboroza]

I think their main concern is that someone said correct thing while having chipmixer's signature on, I wonder how they would have reacted if someone had posted the same thing from account which isn't in any signature campaign.

nononono omg no, keep speaking up, Chipmixer has used agents like you to suppress other honest services like atobmixer.com that has zero fraud records , and this chipmixer agents keeps on talking bad about other services and calling them scam without even being scammed by this services ...

So I am right.

[Atobmixer]

I think their main concern is that someone said correct thing while having chipmixer's signature on, I wonder how they would have reacted if someone had posted the same thing from account which isn't in any signature campaign.

That didnt happen , so lets not talk about something that never happened, its clear you Chip mixer agents are highly motivated to talk trash about all other mixing services without even testing the system. every other service is a scam except chipmixer according to this agents. whatever, i am not in the mood to continue this pointless argument, we were doing our own work peacefully, now you chipmixer agents have made this man on a mission.
TQ i was getting bored. now you guys have put me on this mission....

[marlboroza]

I think their main concern is that someone said correct thing while having chipmixer's signature on, I wonder how they would have reacted if someone had posted the same thing from account which isn't in any signature campaign.

That didnt happen , so lets not talk about something that never happened, its clear you Chip mixer agents are highly motivated to talk trash about all other mixing services without even testing the system. every other service is a scam except chipmixer according to this agents. whatever, i am not in the mood to continue this pointless argument, we were doing our own work peacefully, now you chipmixer agents have made this man on a mission.
TQ i was getting bored. now you guys have put me on this mission....

That is exactly what happened and you are doing it over and over again. For example, I have read this thread and then I have read your thread and made comment on something (which you again didn't address, you choose to go with sockpuppet instead), and then you tagged me because I have expressed my concern.

Trust abuse, sockpuppeting, threats, defamation campaign, you certainly look like scammer to me.

[Atobmixer]

I think their main concern is that someone said correct thing while having chipmixer's signature on, I wonder how they would have reacted if someone had posted the same thing from account which isn't in any signature campaign.

That didnt happen , so lets not talk about something that never happened, its clear you Chip mixer agents are highly motivated to talk trash about all other mixing services without even testing the system. every other service is a scam except chipmixer according to this agents. whatever, i am not in the mood to continue this pointless argument, we were doing our own work peacefully, now you chipmixer agents have made this man on a mission.
TQ i was getting bored. now you guys have put me on this mission....

That is exactly what happened and you are doing it over and over again. For example, I have read this thread and then I have read your thread and made comment on something (which you again didn't address, you choose to go with sockpuppet instead), and then you tagged me because I have expressed my concern.

Trust abuse, sockpuppeting, threats, defamation campaign, you certainly look like scammer to me.

Dear Chipmixer agent,

no one got scammed using www.atobmixer.com , your assumption is just your opinion based on nothing but your assumptions.

Your concern is based on something negligible , yes we dont verify address when we do mixing, but its users responsibility to put their correct address when doing a mixing. If correct address is inserted, of cause we will mix the coins in professioanl manner using MP2C system to securely mix their funds

[TheUltraElite]

That didnt happen , so lets not talk about something that never happened,

Thinking that a person wearing a signature is always biased is a wrong assumption and if you deny it then you are clearly suffering from a problem to justify a statement.

its clear you Chip mixer agents are highly motivated to talk trash about all other mixing services without even testing the system.

Where is the proof of this assumption?

every other service is a scam except chipmixer according to this agents.

A scam that is proven is a scam, to everyone except the person operating the scam, just like for a thief the robbing of money is not a crime. Who are these "agents"?

whatever, i am not in the mood to continue this pointless argument, we were doing our own work peacefully, now you chipmixer agents have made this man on a mission.

Why not develop your project in a way that people are not going to call it scam? If you think CM is trashing your sales do something unique that gives you a vantage point and an edge to catch customers. Just because this forum allows free speech does not mean you can go around abusing its trust system. You will be punished for that. Now what you have done makes you look more shady. You have a right of remaining silent and you lost it too.

TQ i was getting bored. now you guys have put me on this mission....

Lol keyboard warriors.

[marlboroza]

Dear Chipmixer agent,

no one got scammed using www.atobmixer.com , your assumption is just your opinion based on nothing but your assumptions.

Your concern is based on something negligible , yes we dont verify address when we do mixing, but its users responsibility to put their correct address when doing a mixing. If correct address is inserted, of cause we will mix the coins in professioanl manner using MP2C system to securely mix their funds

Dear moron,

My concern is based on your words, "we seize money from users who type wrong address", if you don't mind to take this to your thread, this thread is about trust abuse and your lies on trust pages.

[Atobmixer]

ohhh ok , seems like i have abused the trust function. I taught it was a feedback function.
ohhh mannnnn , but how to warn others this Chipmixer agents makes false accusations on other functioning mixers like atobmixer.com ?

based on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207219.msg53412078#msg53412078

i just left a remark saying :    

unmoral type of advertising, Leaves negative remarks on other services without testing out the services. using brute marketing strategy for chipmixer. very bias remarks made on other mixers.

[eddie13]

i just left a remark saying :    

unmoral type of advertising, Leaves negative remarks on other services without testing out the services. using brute marketing strategy for chipmixer. very bias remarks made on other mixers.

Just remove em man..
It's not a fight worth fighting..

[logfiles]

i just left a remark saying :    

unmoral type of advertising, Leaves negative remarks on other services without testing out the services. using brute marketing strategy for chipmixer. very bias remarks made on other mixers.

But your mixer appears on a website that was claiming to review a list of mixers. The mixers being reviewed there were later discovered to be fake and scam. So instead o leaving unnecessary feedback on anybody that tries to warn others about your mixer. Prove to us to you are not scammers

[Atobmixer]

i just left a remark saying :    

unmoral type of advertising, Leaves negative remarks on other services without testing out the services. using brute marketing strategy for chipmixer. very bias remarks made on other mixers.

But your mixer appears on a website that was claiming to review a list of mixers. The mixers being reviewed there were later discovered to be fake and scam. So instead o leaving unnecessary feedback on anybody that tries to warn others about your mixer. Prove to us to you are not scammers

can you please state your source to that website, we will review the claims