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December 23, 2019, 11:58:45 PM
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I'd lean more towards the opposite.


Same here but I do not leave by coins on an exchange.  I always make sure that I withdraw it whenever I do not have any business on that exchange such as trading.  It is far safer to withdraw and save Bitcoin in our own wallet because there are so many cases that an exchange had been hacked and shutdown without reimbursing the funds of their client. 



With regards to exchanges manipulating prices and volumes, well it is often a custom of exchanges.  So I think there is nothing new to it.
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December 24, 2019, 12:00:59 AM
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I think exchanges like yobit work this way, i can't prove it but one example is clam coin, the exchange lets you sell and buy clams, but they don't let you withdraw, what makes me think they don't really have the coins. And since no one will ask them for proof they will keep operating  this way.

So, if you feel the exchange is playing dirty, the best to do is to stay away from them.

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December 24, 2019, 04:57:03 AM
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Yes, there is nothing wrong with the Bitcoin blockchain itself. But knowing the exchange's hot/cold wallets is not too useful, as you don't know the other side of the balance, how much they owe their users.
the same authorities checking their bank accounts would also check their bitcoin wallet balance to see if it matches what they claim to have received.
the user related information they need is exactly the same as auditing their bank balance.

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To answer the why I would say money. It is free money and they keep doing the same money on trades too. So the two can go side-by-side.
I think one of the possible reasons to push price down is to wipe out margin trades an win big on that.
One other is to buy up cheap BTC as if you push the price down you know it is cheap now. Hence you can buy (real) coins with created ones.
margin trades like other trades aren't against the exchange, it is against other traders so the exchange doesn't "win" whether it goes up or down they are receiving their commission either way.

not to mention that in order for a bitcoin exchange to push the price down (or up) they have to control a huge percentage of the market and this has not been the case for about 7 years now. these days exchanges barely control 6-7% of the total volume.
if one exchange, like bitfinex for instance, manipulated the price and pushed it down in their own exchange then price elsewhere in dozen other exchanges (Coinbase, Kraken, Bitstamp, Gemeni,....) would still remain up and their manipulation becomes apparent.

however what you explained can easily work with an altcoin. for example Binance that controls 80% to 100% volume of an altcoin can easily fake its dump and push the price of it down, then buy it and after that since they control everything they can pump it back up to make a huge profit.

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December 24, 2019, 05:21:52 AM
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On the other hand, we don't really know how many bitcoin is circulating so we wont know also if they are just using fake bitcoins just for their own.
Although you have a point here.
It might really be happening by now.
So who will investigate this kind of issues? I don't there will be a service that will provide funds to safeguard this kind of movement.
But we are just speculating here right? We don't know if they are really doing it.
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