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December 23, 2019, 07:51:00 AM |
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New year is already few days away and I want to share one or two new year wishes about this forum on here, this is how I hope 🙏 this forum will be by next year, this is actually about BM and Moderators, I belief they can both help a lot.
1. Moderators, theymos and co should actually look into new way or strategy to help crypto investors, what I mean is getting rid of scam projects, I don't know how but I think it's time moderators start taking action, we need new investors in crypto space and scammers are everywhere taking advantage of them. Maybe there can be some kind of new screening for new projects on this forum? Or some kind of PASS?
2. Bounty managers have a big role to play in crypto world, i believe if every bounty managers can be more serious about the projects they introduce spammers will reduce, few bounty managers still don't know how important Proof of Authentication is, without it scammers can just use others btt accounts without them knowing, to claim tokens, we need more good bounty managers in this space and not keep relying on few promising BM's like bubbalex, Arteezy, ltcbtcledger etc
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December 23, 2019, 08:51:03 AM |
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Firstly, I think this thread should be in Meta [ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0]. 1. theymos, moderators, and co shouldn't guarantee the success of crypto investors. They must be smarter and more careful to avoid scam projects. Forum has already taken some actions to wipe out scams/scammers. There are many members that already did regular reports for scam cases. And give red-trust to all parties involved in that scams. 2. We can see the reputation of each bounty manager. Simply choose bounty managers with green-trust accounts and avoid/ignore managers with red-trust accounts.
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December 23, 2019, 08:54:01 AM |
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1. Moderators, theymos and co should actually look into new way or strategy to help crypto investors, what I mean is getting rid of scam projects, I don't know how but I think it's time moderators start taking action, we need new investors in crypto space and scammers are everywhere taking advantage of them. Maybe there can be some kind of new screening for new projects on this forum? Or some kind of PASS?
The forum isn't responsible for investors here. Investors should take responsibility and stop relying on the forum to do something for them like screening projects. The forum has introduced the Trust Flags already to help combat scammers. Any member can open a scam accusation against suspected scam projects and create a flag. I just wish members such as you starts learning about these forum features and utilize them. 2. Bounty managers have a big role to play in crypto world, i believe if every bounty managers can be more serious about the projects they introduce spammers will reduce, few bounty managers still don't know how important Proof of Authentication is, without it scammers can just use others btt accounts without them knowing, to claim tokens, we need more good bounty managers in this space and not keep relying on few promising BM's like bubbalex, Arteezy, ltcbtcledger etc
I've been a bounty hunter for two years and proof of authentication doesn't help much in preventing scammers. The bounty managers you mentioned (except bubbalex since I haven't participated in his campaigns) have their shortcomings also when it comes to selecting campaigns. Not that I blame them for that but there were also campaigns they managed that didn't pay or that didn't fulfill their promise like "No KYC" or the slashing of bounty pool. My point is, it is entirely up to bounty hunters to screen campaigns they join.
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December 23, 2019, 09:13:23 AM |
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Investors must protect themselves with knowledge about crypto. Much has been done by moderators to make this forum better but scammer are still scammer who can find ways to continue scamming.
For point number two, BM should also request from the project the reserve funds deposited by a trusted escrow to secure so that participants continue to get paid. regarding how to reduce spammers BM must work harder to minimize spammers.
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December 23, 2019, 09:31:52 AM |
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Moderators of this forum are really trying, investors and bounty hunters should do the most part by taking the word 'research' very seriously and they will be safe, Moderators job is to make this forum running not telling investors which projects to invest on
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December 23, 2019, 09:49:48 AM |
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Investors are the ones to protect themselves, crypto investment is risky so investing in any project must be well investigated, as for bounty managers some kind of escrow services will solve the issue of not getting paid when bounty ends but still bounty hunters need to do better research
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December 23, 2019, 12:02:06 PM |
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New year is already few days away and I want to share one or two new year wishes about this forum on here, this is how I hope 🙏 this forum will be by next year, this is actually about BM and Moderators, I belief they can both help a lot.
1. Moderators, theymos and co should actually look into new way or strategy to help crypto investors, what I mean is getting rid of scam projects, I don't know how but I think it's time moderators start taking action, we need new investors in crypto space and scammers are everywhere taking advantage of them. Maybe there can be some kind of new screening for new projects on this forum? Or some kind of PASS?
Do you think if there are measures to prevent scammers, Theymos won't implement it? It's our responsibility as an investors to investigate which projects are we going to invest, simply because we're going to pour our hard earn money. 2. Bounty managers have a big role to play in crypto world, i believe if every bounty managers can be more serious about the projects they introduce spammers will reduce, few bounty managers still don't know how important Proof of Authentication is, without it scammers can just use others btt accounts without them knowing, to claim tokens, we need more good bounty managers in this space and not keep relying on few promising BM's like bubbalex, Arteezy, ltcbtcledger etc
They're serious I believed, but they can't control everything. We have seen a different ways of cheating a bounty, but I'm sure sooner or later they will be caught.
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December 23, 2019, 12:24:45 PM |
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Bitcointalk is trying to improve quality. People shouldn't just see it as a source of money. Because they can learn a lot about blockchain here. You also need to watch out for scammers. In this forum you can learn how to protect yourself from fake jobs.
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December 23, 2019, 12:30:16 PM |
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This forum already exposed how to safe yourself from scammers, unless you are not into learning like most newbies who only cards about money making, scam accusation was created for a reason, don't you think?
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December 23, 2019, 12:41:52 PM |
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One of the best suggestions. I think the moderator will think of ways to select the Bounty project that open Bounty in the bitcointalk forum. maybe an option that needs to be applied in a case like this like Escrow or an investigator to check a bounty project. some BM have worked quite well in managing the bounty project. we wait for the policy of the moderator.
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December 23, 2019, 12:45:00 PM |
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Good idea you have presented here to avoid scam projects and help bounty hunters and investors to find out good projects. Bounty managers play a big role in preventing and finding out scam projects as they know more about the projects they work for. So they can discourage such scam projects by exposing them to the investors and bounty hunters.
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December 23, 2019, 12:48:42 PM |
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Bounty managers are the real problem here not the moderators, some new bounty managers still don't include proof of authentication on their bounty thread which is why many spammers and cheaters are taking advantages of such projects, its better to keep sticking with good bounty managers to avoid wasting time, its not easy to promote project for months and get nothing in return
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December 23, 2019, 12:50:03 PM |
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One of the best suggestions. I think the moderator will think of ways to select the Bounty project that open Bounty in the bitcointalk forum. maybe an option that needs to be applied in a case like this like Escrow or an investigator to check a bounty project. some BM have worked quite well in managing the bounty project. we wait for the policy of the moderator.
this is a public forum, the moderator will always keep their neutrality. their job is clearing and preventing the spammer and maintaining the forum. you can not expect more than, there are a thousand of thread created daily. it is already hard for them to do this, let alone filtering and managing bounty that consumes a lot of time and effort to do that.
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December 23, 2019, 12:53:52 PM |
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the moderator is not responsible for the project, so it might be better if there is a group that works as a project analyzer. and I think the bounty manager who has to work harder when holding a project, and we ourselves also have to take place to do project analysis and verification. if the project is fraudulent then you should report it based on the results of the analysis, and I think don't expect full hope for protection, but it is better to stand independently for the purpose of developing the potential members of the forum.
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December 23, 2019, 12:56:10 PM |
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New year is already few days away and I want to share one or two new year wishes about this forum on here, this is how I hope 🙏 this forum will be by next year, this is actually about BM and Moderators, I belief they can both help a lot.
1. Moderators, theymos and co should actually look into new way or strategy to help crypto investors, what I mean is getting rid of scam projects, I don't know how but I think it's time moderators start taking action, we need new investors in crypto space and scammers are everywhere taking advantage of them. Maybe there can be some kind of new screening for new projects on this forum? Or some kind of PASS?
2. Bounty managers have a big role to play in crypto world, i believe if every bounty managers can be more serious about the projects they introduce spammers will reduce, few bounty managers still don't know how important Proof of Authentication is, without it scammers can just use others btt accounts without them knowing, to claim tokens, we need more good bounty managers in this space and not keep relying on few promising BM's like bubbalex, Arteezy, ltcbtcledger etc
I appreciate all the collaborations of partners in this forum, I think the moderator and the team are working hard for the common interest and create a sense of security here. So far it has seen several scammes that have been revealed and suppressed in number, of course we all must also be aware of and appeal to other colleagues and do not just corner the responsible parties in this forum, so that in the coming year this forum will become much better and more appropriate with all of our hopes
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December 23, 2019, 01:07:36 PM |
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One of the best suggestions. I think the moderator will think of ways to select the Bounty project that open Bounty in the bitcointalk forum. maybe an option that needs to be applied in a case like this like Escrow or an investigator to check a bounty project. some BM have worked quite well in managing the bounty project. we wait for the policy of the moderator.
this is a public forum, the moderator will always keep their neutrality. their job is clearing and preventing the spammer and maintaining the forum. you can not expect more than, there are a thousand of thread created daily. it is already hard for them to do this, let alone filtering and managing bounty that consumes a lot of time and effort to do that. Yeah. It's not easy as well to handle the forum with a lot of members already. We also have our responsibilities if we want to avoid scam projects. We should make prior research before believing on a project. We don't need to rely on the moderators too much about this kind of issue because being a moderator is a big responsibility already. But it's also good to be open for suggestions so the forum will be more organized in the future.
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December 23, 2019, 01:08:00 PM |
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Firstly, I think this thread should be in Meta [ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0]. 1. theymos, moderators, and co shouldn't guarantee the success of crypto investors. They must be smarter and more careful to avoid scam projects. Forum has already taken some actions to wipe out scams/scammers. There are many members that already did regular reports for scam cases. And give red-trust to all parties involved in that scams. 2. We can see the reputation of each bounty manager. Simply choose bounty managers with green-trust accounts and avoid/ignore managers with red-trust accounts. Some bounty managers do have red trust account like you started by I have seen few ones doing diligent work after bounty ends, they distributed as promised, there are various reasons one can get red trust, its not always about scam
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December 23, 2019, 01:09:15 PM |
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New year is already few days away and I want to share one or two new year wishes about this forum on here, this is how I hope 🙏 this forum will be by next year, this is actually about BM and Moderators, I belief they can both help a lot.
1. Moderators, theymos and co should actually look into new way or strategy to help crypto investors, what I mean is getting rid of scam projects, I don't know how but I think it's time moderators start taking action, we need new investors in crypto space and scammers are everywhere taking advantage of them. Maybe there can be some kind of new screening for new projects on this forum? Or some kind of PASS?
2. Bounty managers have a big role to play in crypto world, i believe if every bounty managers can be more serious about the projects they introduce spammers will reduce, few bounty managers still don't know how important Proof of Authentication is, without it scammers can just use others btt accounts without them knowing, to claim tokens, we need more good bounty managers in this space and not keep relying on few promising BM's like bubbalex, Arteezy, ltcbtcledger etc
We should not impose to them how to combat scamming, as an investor it's always been invest at your own risk and do your own research, we are responsible for our investment and do not put the weight on them, you should know better, on bounty managers, not all bounty are independent there are bounty managers that are part of the ICO team, and you should also not rely on bounty managers to do it, in summary, get to work and do your own thing as investor and bounty hunter.
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December 23, 2019, 01:16:43 PM |
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It is normal that there are a few shortcomings, which do not depend on mods. But, as time goes by, make sure everything will be solved. In addition to the shortcomings, fortunately, we have this kind of forum where everyone learns, discusses some ideas, learns more about the projects, meets them, and joins the bounty to make a profit. Anyway, I love this form with its good and bad sides. Happy New Year BTT ❤️
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December 23, 2019, 01:22:12 PM |
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Some bounty managers do have red trust account like you started by I have seen few ones doing diligent work after bounty ends, they distributed as promised, there are various reasons one can get red trust, its not always about scam Correct, you need to check what the reasons behind the red-trust mark. But it is much better to choose the green-trust accounts or at least neutral trust. I don't underestimate managers who have the red-trust marks, I just lead people to choose the safest way and minimize risks.
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