Silk Road Case: The Real, Untold Story. Is Karpelès Satoshi or DPR?

[NotATether]

SR probably used the SMF theme because he was targeting bitcoin users which are already familiar with the theme.
Saying Karpeles is Satoshi because of that is completely absurd.

Haha, he has already alledged that this guy is the Bitcointalk owner too (in other words, theymos).

So this must bean satoshi = theymos

Then again: why would Youtube censorship take action here? What was the problem with that video (assuming there was a problem with it)...?

Idk, ask g00gle and their sponsors.
They can ban anything if it doesn't agree with the mainstream narrative, that includes anything related with bitcoin and silk road.

Yes, Youtube would rather spend their time serving you with irrelevant ads (possibly in different languages if you are using a VPN), than letting you watch actual content because that part of the service doesn't make any money for them.

[GazetaBitcoin]

I didn't use chatGPT Ai, just good old style internet search, and if you couldn't find it than you are probably using some ''normie'' search engines that are all messed up now.
I found several results using Brave search, SearX, and few other alternative search engines.

Oh I see! Thank you for this hint And thanks again for the links.

oh and. you made alot of waffle trying to pretend he didnt run the website.. and then ended your last post saying he was arrested for.. running the website

Yes, technically speaking, he was actually caught while running the website. Yet this would never be a reason good enough for charging someone with two life sentences, while the person was at his first offense.

so even you deep down know he was running the website and just are trying to promote lame and debunked claims he was a patsy blamed for something he was uninvolved in

And even if it were so, there is still no explanation for how was possible to have owners of SR 2.0, SR 3.0 and others caught / imprisoned / released already, while this man is left behind the bars with no possibility of parole.

and it was not just the website content. it was the illegal deals and the hitman stuff too, thus he is not innocent

If you would have actually studied the case or, at least, watched the documentary, you would have found out that all murder-for-hire charges were dropped during the trial, as there was not any evidence indicating it.

if he stuck to just weed. and he didnt go vengeance hitman hiring [...]

if you intend to murder someone murder is murder no matter the payment method

You keep insisting on the part about hiring hitmen, murders etc., while all these charges were dropped. So in the end we have someone, at first offense, put for life behind the bars for running a website / for a victimless crime. I would recommend you again to watch the documentary -- it'll help you understand some parts which you think you know but, in fact, you don't, and they cloud your judgement regarding the case.

I am not saying Ross was all innocent. Yet nothing from what he did justifies such a harsh sentence. Nothing he did justifies a decision leading to impossibility of parole. Nothing justifies the evidence accepted by the court which did not follow the legal path for being brought in front of the court. Combine all these with the corrupt DEA agents which were part of the case, which stole BTC, which extort Ross and which were directly interested to have framed. And there's more, much more than these few examples I said here.

[franky1]

there are certain things
like FTX which is just financial crimes the so called "no physical harm" thing your chanting and yet people feel he deserves 120 years in prison

so there is one dude involved in facilitating the sales of a substance that can cause overdose and deaths you want free.. and another guy that just messed around with money.

sentencing has guidelines of money involved, people involved. number of times an offence is done

its not like he just named dropped someone he knew which resulted in a one time drug deal of just personal use amounts. he ran a drug den for years of harsh drugs that can kill

i know you want to make it sound like "he just ran a website"
but so did scam bankman fraud if we used your same mindset

but we all know ross done more then just develop a website. he actually done alot more behind the scenes then that.

again if it was just selling personal use amounts of weed. he would have been released by now. but he is not released becasue of the many things he done over the years.

[goldkingcoiner]

SR probably used the SMF theme because he was targeting bitcoin users which are already familiar with the theme.
Saying Karpeles is Satoshi because of that is completely absurd.

The server thing is interesting but the it doesn't prove anything because it's can easily be a coincidence he bought hosting on the Karpeless hosting site.
The clearnet guide is also a stretch because it used an affiliate link (if I remember correctly) and could easily be someone trying to earn some coins from the affiliate program.

In the end data was found that Ross is DPR since he was convicted?
If so, all of this makes no sense.

Karpeles owning SR and creating bitcoin being the most absurd.
Karpeles stole so many BTC but didn't sell the initial Satoshi million BTC?

This is probably the most reasonable and logical answer to OP's conspiracy theory. And lets face it, it is just a conspiracy theory with absolutely no hard evidence but rather one of those "matching of random coincidences for the fabrication of a baseless evidence"- kind of theories.

Even if Karpeles was DPR, if he was morally corrupt enough to scam and steal from people, then obviously he would be corrupt enough to rug-pull the entire Bitcoin community no matter how high the price was at the time (and it was high enough for him to have made a considerable profit, had he been involved)

As far as I remember the story, Ross got caught red handed as DPR. Thats really the biggest evidence against him, in my opinion.

[GazetaBitcoin]

its not like he just named dropped someone he knew which resulted in a one time drug deal of just personal use amounts. he ran a drug den for years of harsh drugs that can kill

i know you want to make it sound like "he just ran a website"
but so did scam bankman fraud if we used your same mindset

but we all know ross done more then just develop a website. he actually done alot more behind the scenes then that.

In your earlier posts you insisted on murder-for-hire aspect until I explained (proved) you that all those charges were dropped. So you stop mentioning that. Now you insist on drug selling, yet you do not answer to a very legitimate question:

how can it be explained that all other dark market owners which were caught after Ross were also released from jail, while this man is sentenced for life?!?

It's so easy to speak while not knowing specific details about this case. It's so easy to speak while it's not you the one behind bars for life. Why were all those dark market owners caught, imprisoned and also set frr from jail, for same offense, while Ross has to spend a double lifetime sentence? Plus 40 years! Does this make any sense?

This is probably the most reasonable and logical answer to OP's conspiracy theory. And lets face it, it is just a conspiracy theory with absolutely no hard evidence but rather one of those "matching of random coincidences for the fabrication of a baseless evidence"- kind of theories.

Actually, this is not "OP's conspiracy theory" I merely described what documentary presents.

As far as I remember the story, Ross got caught red handed as DPR. Thats really the biggest evidence against him, in my opinion.

True. Yet Ross' defense was that in the last period, just before getting caught, DPR needed his assistance for some things and this is why he had to log on the site from time to time. Be it a lie or not, the way his laptop was confiscated and manipulated by Police after confiscation did not follow the legal procedures, not to mention that they were practically allowed to plant any data they wanted until the laptop was presented as evidence. All these are detailed in the documentary. If you would just be willing to watch it, you would understand better.

As a consequence, that laptop should have never been accepted as a legit evidence in the court. But they wanted to make sure they have a name sentenced for life thus they did anything they could for framing this man as much as possible.

[dansus021]

I know the silk road case but never dug up like this because of your thread I'm started to search about Silkroad, the news said that roos is the owner of DPR account but the movie said the dpr account is no longer hold by ross

there is something fishy here, maybe that karpeles is owned the DPR or maybe other person and he has cooperated with the gov just like the secret agent and the DEA agent who was corrupt and got 6 years in prison and make the ross is still have control of DPR account

damn how many bitcoin had flown in silk road case  

and by lookup the https://freeross.org/ actually there are dozen people from the government that also support the ross

[GazetaBitcoin]

I know the silk road case but never dug up like this because of your thread I'm started to search about Silkroad, the news said that roos is the owner of DPR account but the movie said the dpr account is no longer hold by ross

This is true, Ross gave up his administrator account of Silk Road to DPR.

there is something fishy here, maybe that karpeles is owned the DPR or maybe other person and he has cooperated with the gov just like the secret agent and the DEA agent who was corrupt and got 6 years in prison and make the ross is still have control of DPR account

There are so too much more questions than answers regarding the insights of Silk Roads case... Perhaps we'll never find out the entire truth.

and by lookup the https://freeross.org/ actually there are dozen people from the government that also support the ross

This is good, as it proves that even guys working for the government realized that they went too far against Ross and they orchestrated that joke of a trial against him. Still, Ross remains in jail for a double life sentence (which he will never be able to do, for obvious reasons), without possibility of parole and without any further legal way to trying to combat the unfair sentence. Only the President may give him a parole, but it seems that no US President is willing to do it.

[cygan]

Bitcoin magazine today published an article about Ross Ulbricht and his now exactly 10 years in jail. really very worth reading!

10 years , Ross Ulbricht may be behind bars, but his story continues to shape the Bitcoin and internet freedom movements.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/10-years-bitcoin-silk-road-ross-ulbricht-jail-justice

[cygan]

there is probably a new opportunity for Ross Ulbricht and the opportunity is called Donald Trump...
if DT is elected, he reportedly wants to change R. Ulbricht's sentence on the first day of his presidency. sounds good so far, but about 'saying' is not 'doing'. i'm curious how it will be received or accepted in the community.

“If you vote for me, on Day 1, I will commute the sentence of Ross Ulbricht to a sentence of time served,” Trump said during his Saturday night remarks at the Libertarian National Convention in Washington, D.C. “He’s already served 11 years, we’re gonna get him home.”

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/05/26/trump-pledges-to-free-silk-road-creator-ross-ulbricht-if-re-elected/

[cygan]

now that D. Trump has won the presidential election, this topic is becoming very interesting again
because in his election campaign, DT promised, among other things, that he would pardon former SilkRoad founder/operator Ross Ulbricht and release him from prison
Trump will be sworn in on January 20, 2025 and i hope that he will keep this promise made by many and make RU a free man!