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December 23, 2019, 03:35:13 PM |
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I never knew it will be that bad maybe because I wasn't a perenial IEOs investors but Bitmex Research makes some damn revelations. You can take a look below "In its latest report on the phenomenon published on Dec. 23, the analytics arm of exchange BitMEX, BitMEX Research, identified twelve major IEOs that launched this year. Of those, eleven are now almost worthless compared to the price at which they first traded on exchanges." https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitmex-crypto-ieo-poor-performance-sees-investors-lose-up-to-98
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December 23, 2019, 04:04:34 PM |
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A reason they do not have a good performance, IEO only guarantees security in crowdfunding events, not means there is potential for the future, please note this. because what I know lately is that the IEO project has been filled with manipulation and allocation that doesn't make sense. from the OP source link provided, only the Matic project was able to provide more investor returns, and there was bad news, but the team succeeded in overcoming and refuting the incident. from this all the projects can be concluded with an active team and build a good strategy, will affect performance and there is more potential at a later time.
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December 23, 2019, 05:15:23 PM |
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I have never participated in IEOs because most of them are trying to raise huge amounts while the token value and the neccessities of development are dramatically lower. Take an example - Stratis managed to develop smart contracts, sidechains, STO and ICO platform + a blockchain made entirely from Bitcoin code written in C#(or C++ I don't remember exactly) with a raised amount of around $500k. Other projects raise millions and don't achieve a fraction of what these guys did. So my personal conclusion is it isn't worth investing in IEOs.
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December 23, 2019, 05:24:59 PM |
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This could be the reason why there's a sudden silence that came in for IEO lately. I haven't heard that much hype with it these days because of the introduction of it which made a lot of expectations and people turning to rush with investing to every IEO that will be done by an exchange.
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December 23, 2019, 05:26:33 PM |
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This is really bad news for the crypto world that the IEO idea did not help enough for the crypto world and of course for the investors. Though investors who bought tokens from the IEO launchpad got huge profit from all of the top exchange's IEO! but who bought after listing on exchanges they lost by all these big percentages. But still, I will support IEO over the shitty ICO sale, at least everyone is not looser in the IEO sector. However, to prevent such losses, investors may stop investing for a while until the Bitcoin price goes up, I already stopped buying any new coins, to me buying bitcoin, Ethereum or even Bitcoin cash is better than investing in new projects.
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December 23, 2019, 05:36:48 PM |
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I never knew it will be that bad maybe because I wasn't a perenial IEOs investors but Bitmex Research makes some damn revelations. You can take a look below "In its latest report on the phenomenon published on Dec. 23, the analytics arm of exchange BitMEX, BitMEX Research, identified twelve major IEOs that launched this year. Of those, eleven are now almost worthless compared to the price at which they first traded on exchanges." https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitmex-crypto-ieo-poor-performance-sees-investors-lose-up-to-98Especially Binance IEOs initially promised good profits. For Binance IEOs things went generally well initially. But in other exchanges, the result was not the same. Especially the Ocean had been a great disappointment. This reminds us that; we must always be very careful in this market.
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December 23, 2019, 05:38:12 PM |
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This could be the reason why there's a sudden silence that came in for IEO lately. I haven't heard that much hype with it these days because of the introduction of it which made a lot of expectations and people turning to rush with investing to every IEO that will be done by an exchange.
There's a possibility that IEO will be over their success is shortlived what happen to ICO is now happening to IEO, I wonder if STO will follow after this, there should also be a study about STO, and see if they are following the same path, it'\s really preferable to invest on the top coins in the market, than gamble to this crowdfunding.
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December 23, 2019, 05:41:21 PM |
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This could be the reason why there's a sudden silence that came in for IEO lately. I haven't heard that much hype with it these days because of the introduction of it which made a lot of expectations and people turning to rush with investing to every IEO that will be done by an exchange.
There's a possibility that IEO will be over their success is shortlived what happen to ICO is now happening to IEO, I wonder if STO will follow after this, there should also be a study about STO, and see if they are following the same path, it'\s really preferable to invest on the top coins in the market, than gamble to this crowdfunding. STOs were introduced immediately after ICO and before the IEO. But it didn't attract much attention. Because in logic, it seemed that the market was not very convenient.
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December 23, 2019, 05:50:41 PM |
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This is what I thought at first and then it came... I am very skeptical about the IEOs at some point because I don't see any security on the investors and this news come, honestly I did not wished for it nor expected it but I thought of it when I see IEOs are operating. It just keeps getting harder for investors to get the return they want, or just a decent return from their investment.I'm afraid we're going to lose some of our investors with these kind of business especially the average investors. I conclude it is not a great time for investments like that, there is a high chance of failing.
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htsy585 (OP)
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December 23, 2019, 06:09:49 PM |
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A reason they do not have a good performance, IEO only guarantees security in crowdfunding events, not means there is potential for the future, please note this. because what I know lately is that the IEO project has been filled with manipulation and allocation that doesn't make sense. from the OP source link provided, only the Matic project was able to provide more investor returns, and there was bad news, but the team succeeded in overcoming and refuting the incident. from this all the projects can be concluded with an active team and build a good strategy, will affect performance and there is more potential at a later time.
You are right. One thing we are sure IEO brought to the table was crowdfunding security which ICOs really didn't offer. On stability of investors funds or returns of higher profit margins, we will think of a solution for that
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December 23, 2019, 06:12:30 PM |
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This could be the reason why there's a sudden silence that came in for IEO lately. I haven't heard that much hype with it these days because of the introduction of it which made a lot of expectations and people turning to rush with investing to every IEO that will be done by an exchange.
There's a possibility that IEO will be over their success is shortlived what happen to ICO is now happening to IEO, I wonder if STO will follow after this, there should also be a study about STO, and see if they are following the same path, it'\s really preferable to invest on the top coins in the market, than gamble to this crowdfunding. STOs were introduced immediately after ICO and before the IEO. But it didn't attract much attention. Because in logic, it seemed that the market was not very convenient. Yes STOs is the proper model but wouldn't really work because most cryptocurrency companies aren't established especially for the startups. Maybe Coinbase, Binance, Kraken, Bitmain would successfully hold an STO. Also the fact that the market is not fully developed made it impossible for STOs to thrive, plus investors mostly want immediate returns with high margins.
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December 23, 2019, 06:21:06 PM |
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That had to happen! Because ICOs and IEOs were floated to the market with same intention - to take money from people's pocket to their pocket. Even the operating structure is different, but the modus operandi remained same for both! The result we all can see now! A palace built on thin air will eventually have to fall!
The better alternative to ICO and IEO model is STO. It is a regulated crowdfunding model and has a complex legal procedure to take care of. A group of scammer won't take such route and eventually fall off from the league! STO model actually ensures the integrity and authenticity of a company and needs approval from SEC. So an investor will have some sort of assurance in place!
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December 23, 2019, 06:21:34 PM |
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This is what I thought at first and then it came... I am very skeptical about the IEOs at some point because I don't see any security on the investors and this news come, honestly I did not wished for it nor expected it but I thought of it when I see IEOs are operating. It just keeps getting harder for investors to get the return they want, or just a decent return from their investment.I'm afraid we're going to lose some of our investors with these kind of business especially the average investors. I conclude it is not a great time for investments like that, there is a high chance of failing.
Nothing is better than IEO for now so investors don't have another crypto crowdfunding option, but the target remains the same as the previous scheme where the final price is always below ROI, the basic difference is that IEO includes an exchange reputation to attract investors, the rest stay natural where the market has full power.
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December 23, 2019, 06:30:20 PM |
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Despite the scary fact from Bitmex as long as investors and developers don't get an alternative crowd funding option that can offer investment security and immediate exchange liquidity then IEO remains the only option forseable. I have seen some adverts on Initial Model Offering (IMO) which entails perioding investment of a particular project after passing the investors appraisal mark but the fact that this model also locks 90 percent of investors token which will be release through out 366 days also makes it less desirable for investors. So we are stuck with IEO till further notice
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December 23, 2019, 07:21:05 PM |
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That is the fact cause of course, they are just being started. Remember, we are not in the bull market and if you got into Binance IEOs I don't believe that you will lost a lot since in the first week of trading you will get a lot unless that investor is too dumb to hold and believe into that project too much which is rare. But maybe, once they move along like other projects did, holding it would be worth it.
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December 23, 2019, 08:04:25 PM |
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Sorry to say I do not agree with what Bitmex trying to say here. Why they put the Gifto's name and Bread? These coins are old, therefore all the coins listed here were very profitable for the IEO investors. Who is holding they face rekt or decline, the same thing goes to Ethereum or with every big coin. Because if you forget the ICO/IEO price and count the present investor then every investor is in loss nowadays. Bitmex did not have any IEO yet, that's why they made this list, otherwise, they wouldn't.
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December 23, 2019, 08:50:56 PM |
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Despite the scary fact from Bitmex as long as investors and developers don't get an alternative crowd funding option that can offer investment security and immediate exchange liquidity then IEO remains the only option forseable. I have seen some adverts on Initial Model Offering (IMO) which entails perioding investment of a particular project after passing the investors appraisal mark but the fact that this model also locks 90 percent of investors token which will be release through out 366 days also makes it less desirable for investors. So we are stuck with IEO till further notice
Not many people know about IMO, mate. So, after ICO, the crypto world knows about the IEO as it is appreciated by the giant exchanges like Binance, Huobi, Bittrex and so on. I don't think these big exchanges will let IEO ends because they can earn such huge money from their IEO launchpad! And of course, Bitmex was not honest enough to make this list. overall, I am with IEO and waiting for the next IEO on Binance Launchpad.
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December 23, 2019, 10:50:20 PM |
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I do not think we need statistics for this, which is easily visible when we look around. Even the Binance IEOs, which everyone thinks are the most successful, return its deserved price as time goes by. At a time when the market is in poor condition, only HYIP increases. There are surely some projects that do not belong to this view, but the majority is the same. I can not give you a suggestion not to invest in IEOs, but try not to be victim in these movies.
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December 23, 2019, 10:54:50 PM |
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This could be the reason why there's a sudden silence that came in for IEO lately. I haven't heard that much hype with it these days because of the introduction of it which made a lot of expectations and people turning to rush with investing to every IEO that will be done by an exchange.
it looks like all of the exchange sites are aware about the situation when the market is getting bearish trend and that will be affecting the position of the ico but as far as i know if some new IEOs on binance are still reaching the hardcap, the bad part those IEOs are getting a very bad return that already traded below the ico price as the first listing price. that's very bad to see that but ico is not worth anymore. People are still staying away from the market too right now.
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December 23, 2019, 11:51:03 PM |
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So by now we can conclude based on that report, that IEO and ICO does have similarities. Everyone thought that the IEO will be the next best thing, however, it's pretty much the same, just another name. But in the end, you can still loss your money or could be pump and dump by bad actors from behind. So only those who have huge capital can take advantage again and create more money thru this IEO craze.
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