Crypto and bitcoin is Not good investment new era Next phase

[Polo7]

Crypto and bitcoin Not good investment as before
But crypto can be Vehicle for investment.
So the new era will be the New question if we invest and hodl but what we can do with crypto..


Since its de centralized we should run the Whole equity markets on crypto.


Also id like to point out my new vision new idea what can be done with crypto ;

Link here to Other topic :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211481.0

[DaCryptoRaccoon]

Crypto and bitcoin Not good investment as before
But crypto can be Vehicle for investment.
So the new era will be the New question if we invest and hodl but what we can do with crypto..


Since its de centralized we should run the Whole equity markets on crypto.


Also id like to point out my new vision new idea what can be done with crypto ;

Link here to Other topic :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211481.0

I would say Bitcoin is a solid investment for the long term, If you look at the structure of bitcoin and notice that we have barley even scratched the surface in terms of the longevity.
If you are to look back at the early prices and where we sit now on a timeline basis it paint's a much better picture of how long a term people are talking.

I don't mean months or even years, Personal, I am looking at it the the terms of 20 years+.


So let me explain my thoughts (please note this is NOT financial advice and is my own speculation on Bitcoin and the future)

In terms of Bitcoin and rewards for the miners we are what they would say "just out the gates"

Below is a table showing the halving event's and rewards going forward in bitcoin as you will see we are almost passing the the 4th mile marker in terms of rewards halving and block height

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Block      Reward (BTC)
---------  ------------
        0  50.00000000
  210,000  25.00000000
  420,000  12.50000000 <- we are here (block 609,209)
  630,000   6.25000000
  840,000   3.12500000
1,050,000   1.56250000
1,260,000   0.78125000
1,470,000   0.39062500
1,680,000   0.19531250
1,890,000   0.09765625
2,100,000   0.04882812
2,310,000   0.02441406
2,520,000   0.01220703
2,730,000   0.00610351
2,940,000   0.00305175
3,150,000   0.00152587
3,360,000   0.00076293
3,570,000   0.00038146
3,780,000   0.00019073
3,990,000   0.00009536
4,200,000   0.00004768
4,410,000   0.00002384
4,620,000   0.00001192
4,830,000   0.00000596
5,040,000   0.00000298
5,250,000   0.00000149
5,460,000   0.00000074
5,670,000   0.00000037
5,880,000   0.00000018
6,090,000   0.00000009
6,300,000   0.00000004
6,510,000   0.00000002
6,720,000   0.00000001

Now lets look at a quick summery of what the lowest price in USD over the years for bitcoin has been per-year to date

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2009 - $0
2010 - $0.05
2911 - $0.29
2012 - $4.19
2013 - $13.29
2014 - $314.69
2015 - $201.29
2016 - $374.06
2017 - $784.75
2018 - $3232.93
2019 - $3385.97

I don't know what book's on investing you have been reading but if you bought the LOW of each year and sold the high of each year thus far you would be doing exceptionally well.
As the reward falls and more users decided they want into bitcoin the price will continue to grow,  as a sound money for the world without borders you can't find much else that has done what Bitcoin has over the years.

[jossiel]

Crypto and bitcoin Not good investment as before
But crypto can be Vehicle for investment.

Is it just me that understands this wrongly? It confuses me that OP is telling that bitcoin and "crypto" is no longer a good investment as before but tells that "crypto" is a good investment vehicle.

I would say Bitcoin is a solid investment for the long term, If you look at the structure of bitcoin and notice that we have barley even scratched the surface in terms of the longevity.
If you are to look back at the early prices and where we sit now on a timeline basis it paint's a much better picture of how long a term people are talking.

I don't mean months or even years, Personal, I am looking at it the the terms of 20 years+.

I agree that bitcoin is more solid than any other "crypto" that op is pertaining to as a good investment vehicle. There's no other better choice than bitcoin on this asset class market because it's been proven within just a decade and it will be proven for the upcoming years to come.

[joniboini]

Looks like OP mixed blockchain and crypto. You don't really need to have cryptocurrencies, just use blockchain to store those equity digital shares.

I'm not against it but will companies even consider it? Other than that, 'crypto and bitcoin is not a good investment' is a thing that most people don't believe.

[kotik085]

Therefore, just the same, that investing in bitcoin today is in the first place among investors and traders of the crypto world. There are other aspects that can be considered, but you must be extremely careful in this action.

[AniviaBtc]

Therefore, just the same, that investing in bitcoin today is in the first place among investors and traders of the crypto world. There are other aspects that can be considered, but you must be extremely careful in this action.

That's why investing right now is not the best option for that. The stable downward movement of bitcoin is on going and we have nothing to do about it because we're just waiting for it to finish and grow again. But it will surely took so long before we can invest again in crypto.

Those other aspects you said like demand, price, and etc. must be observed also.

[Sanugarid]

Therefore, just the same, that investing in bitcoin today is in the first place among investors and traders of the crypto world. There are other aspects that can be considered, but you must be extremely careful in this action.

That's why investing right now is not the best option for that. The stable downward movement of bitcoin is on going and we have nothing to do about it because we're just waiting for it to finish and grow again. But it will surely took so long before we can invest again in crypto.

Those other aspects you said like demand, price, and etc. must be observed also.

The reason why we're here is because we don't know what to do or to handle bitcoin. Maybe this thread is the key on how we can overcome the problem which is waiting for the next season or new era of cryptocurrency for us.

We should make a move and control ourselves for the next transactions we will execute soon. But for now, let's share our knowledge and plans before having fun investing in cryptocurrency and bitcoin.

[DreamStage]

Well i am invested into so many things with Bitcoin and several other cryptos and i am not crying about it because i know how to do it properly.

There are tons of ways for you to win from an investment....
For instance i invest in trading at multiple currencies at same time, gamble alot, and many other stuff that provide me a good income on a regular basis.

All that because crypto / bitcoin is on an ative environment of trading.
There is always price fluctuation and there will always be companies willing to give you opportunities (and for them) to win more from other services.

[Darooghe]

I think people don't have a good understanding of Cryptocurrency. it is just the first application. these are going to grow and be robust distributed network ecosystems with applications and services worth trillions in economic output and bitcoin or other altcoins are going to be the primary basis by which you pay for those services. buying bitcoin now is like buying a piece of the internet before the web browser hit the market. You are buying a percentage of 21 million coins that will ultimately be in circulation at a huge discount to it's total potential worth after adding all the aggregated services and applications built on the blockchain.

[tambok]

I think people don't have a good understanding of Cryptocurrency. it is just the first application. these are going to grow and be robust distributed network ecosystems with applications and services worth trillions in economic output and bitcoin or other altcoins are going to be the primary basis by which you pay for those services. buying bitcoin now is like buying a piece of the internet before the web browser hit the market. You are buying a percentage of 21 million coins that will ultimately be in circulation at a huge discount to it's total potential worth after adding all the aggregated services and applications built on the blockchain.

Lack of research can lead to false conclusion, if we will check the data from the experts, actually Bitcoin gave most the higher returns, next is Netflix, for the past decade, Bitcoin becomes number one. So, I don't know why people kept saying that crypto is not a good investment when in fact they are here chasing with their dreams too.

[Mike Mayor]

Lol oh boy...

Firstly you are not actually making sense. I am struggling to understand you. Firsts you claim bitcoin and crypto are not good investments and then you say crypto is a vehicle for investment? That is a contradiction. You should not be using words like vehicle in your sentences since your English is bad. Don't try to use fancy English.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211481.0 This is the exact description of a Ponzi and is nothing new and is not clever. What are you trying to do here?

Are you also not explaining any of your claims? Why do you say bitcoin is and crypto is a bad investment and then talk about investing in them in the next sentence.

[squatter]

Looks like OP mixed blockchain and crypto. You don't really need to have cryptocurrencies, just use blockchain to store those equity digital shares.

I'm not against it but will companies even consider it?

Overstock launched a subsidiary and platform called TZERO, which is an alternative trading system (ATS) for trading stocks. Volumes have been meager so far and nobody besides Overstock has issued securities on the platform yet:

TZERO, launched for trading in January, is designed as an alternative trading system (ATS), a limited version of a securities exchange to trading tokenized private equity. It started with its native equity token, tZERO Preferred (TZEROP), with ambitions to be an issuance platform for other companies that want to tokenize their securities.

So far, the second token that was made available on the platform is Overstock’s own digital stock, the Digital Voting Series A-1 Preferred Stock, previously known as Blockchain Voting Series A Preferred Stock, or OSTKP — an early blockchain experiment by Overstock issued back in 2016.

The platform has so far seen meager trading volumes, as only the accredited investors could register and only one token has been available to trade. However, this month, the lock-up period for TZEROP tokens (issued under Regulation D) expires, at which point retail investors will be allowed access to the asset.

[khaled0111]

@OP, honestly it's hard to understand what you are talking about. You should elaborate more.
Keep in mind that there is a difference between cryptocurrencies and the technology they use which is blockchain.
The project promoted in the link you provided looks like a ponzi scheme to me where early investors get paid from funds deposited but those who join later.

[Distinctin]

You'll be sorry @OP if you'll never take this great opportunity.
If we look into its price line every year, we could see that it has a continuous market growth. This simply means that having crypto today is also building a better future. The dumping scenario we experience is not that reason to become hopeless and worried about its future cause we believe that everything will be fine soon especially when we are at 100% crypto supporters.

[pixie85]

Crypto and bitcoin Not good investment as before

Of course it could be not as good as it was. Bitcoin used to offer insane profits of 1000% a year. This is insane because traditional assets rarely give you 50% a year.

Even if Bitcoin keeps 10% of its profitability it will still be one of the best investments you can make in your life.

[diahsw]

what is the reason you say it like that, it makes people confused with your words, you issue an income that has no basis and reason. if indeed Crypto and bitcoin is Not good investment new era Next phase, show your reasons that are right and we can understand .. !!

[bitvalak]

What you explained in the link link is the ponzi system, how can you say the ponzi system is a good investment?
Even though you are given access to your own blockchain account to be able to invest your bitcoin, not in a trading account. Putting assets on the blockchain is best for crypto, not playing for a ponzi system.

[drlukacs]

Crypto and bitcoin Not good investment as before
But crypto can be Vehicle for investment.
So the new era will be the New question if we invest and hodl but what we can do with crypto..

I don't think it is different from the results that investors in new projects are getting. At the present, investors are still losing money by believing in new alts that will bring a new wave to the crypto market like 2017, but things have gone against them. The crowd now only focuses on bitcoin and some top alts to trade and make money from it. Investments in new projects are now frozen and positive as if no one is waiting for new projects. so investing and holding it, I don't think it will be good, we should just hold bitcoin now, that's my own opinion.

[DevilSlayer]

That is pure opinion, why are we going to follow you after all. Bitcoin can still be a good investment vehicle after all but there are risks. We cannot just invest without prior study and knowledge. We should know what we are doing after all so we can able to avoid losses after all. We should know how to use technical analysis in order to find out the perfect time make investment with bitcoin.

[deadthings]

Code:

2009 - $0
2010 - $0.05
2011 - $0.29
2012 - $4.19
2013 - $13.29
2014 - $314.69
2015 - $201.29
2016 - $374.06
2017 - $784.75
2018 - $3232.93
2019 - $3385.97

I wonder what people will be saying about bitcoin till 2011 when it was almost zero. Now when it is trading above $7000 we are hearing sounds that its no more a good investment? Many think like that including OP, they have the right. But come up with some strong logic if you think bitcoin is not a good option. My logic is that it has huge market cap along with massive community.