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December 25, 2019, 02:20:02 PM
Last edit: December 25, 2019, 03:58:42 PM by housework
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Hello, I will upload few pictures and let's it talk further.

first of all, if you dont understand probability and math etc, please dont say anything at all.

all screenshots are made when play was in 5% chance (lower possible in Nitrodice site (min 5/max 95))

on 5% chance realistic streaks are till 300(loses in row), some times in few milliards of bets you can get till 350, and something around 400 is what you can see only once in life.

now watch this - https://imgur.com/IPLWTer
here you can see I was get even 800/1200/1300 loses in row, that is ridiculus... it's same like get 130 loses in row on 50% winning chance!


so then I start to test further, make few more accounts and running they 24/7 find another rigged shit. this big unreal ridiculus streak was occurs on every account in almoust same time, few times in month. (in december something like 6x allready)

watch screenshots, if you get my point then you understand.

https://imgur.com/gkaGcjF

https://imgur.com/KPLpyvP

https://imgur.com/6ikqvHG

https://imgur.com/ni9O1A2

RNG are making losing streak everywhere (on IP or everyone who is online - idk yet) in same time (difference is few seconds) in all five runned accounts


and bonus - https://imgur.com/zIe1FjV

bet is winned, but dont appears like winned, and amount is reduced not multilied. but is Seuntjie dicebot bug how much i think. (its from last version)


p.s my old account was hacked (houseworx) so its new one.
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December 25, 2019, 02:52:49 PM
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Why would you even bet that huge on a shady dice site like nitroDice. Was that the advertised 0.5% house edge that lured you?
There's always the probability of getting huge number of loses on every odds, but the losses on exact time frame you mentioned is surely a red flag.
If you are betting huge, stick to trusted dice sites.

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December 25, 2019, 03:00:00 PM
Last edit: December 25, 2019, 03:22:17 PM by housework
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Why would you even bet that huge on a shady dice site like nitroDice. Was that the advertised 0.5% house edge that lured you?
There's always the probability of getting huge number of loses on every odds, but the losses on exact time frame you mentioned is surely a red flag.
If you are betting huge, stick to trusted dice sites.


it mentioned like shaddy? even Seuntjie added this sites, so idk.

probability is need to be like is need to be, you can't get more than (2000/chance) +/-.
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December 25, 2019, 03:12:39 PM
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Lol you, first of all you didn't prove anything 2nd if you loss that means it's scam, ? So you mean every other dice is scam ?
I got 22 reds in 2x at stake , so that means stake is scam too, ?
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December 25, 2019, 03:14:52 PM
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Lol you, first of all you didn't prove anything 2nd if you loss that means it's scam, ? So you mean every other dice is scam ?
I got 22 reds in 2x at stake , so that means stake is scam too, ?


you are not so clever, 22loses in ~50% is standart, im already written, tards who dont know anything about probability please dont write at all.

50% 22loses in row is same like 220loses in row on 5% +/-, so really if you dont understand anything please dont write.

Harsh Seghal, idk what is between you and nitrodice, but all know that you are defending in every way this site.
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December 25, 2019, 03:25:29 PM
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Well we'll
You came in group talk about your losses and now saying it's rigged
I shared my story get rekted $500 + in stake, so NOW WHERE GO AND CRY ?
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December 25, 2019, 03:27:41 PM
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Well we'll
You came in group talk about your losses and now saying it's rigged
I shared my story get rekted $500 + in stake, so NOW WHERE GO AND CRY ?


not for your small minded brains, indenozian tard.
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December 25, 2019, 03:35:48 PM
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December 25, 2019, 03:59:18 PM
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I don't know too much about gambling, but the odds that you put in the picture are really crazy  Shocked
At odds, everything only happens at a relative level, it also depends on the element of luck. But with 1395 consecutive losses at a rate of 5%, this means your current win rate is less than 1/1000. Not support your accusation but it is clear that this ratio can make any player angry. What do you think about checking their seeds for transparency?

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December 25, 2019, 03:59:38 PM
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This Id Youthhub is a promoter and thread starter for Nitrodice in the Forum. Which is filled with suspicious behavior and scam accusations.
And the Id's got negative trust from Darkstar_ for promoting Nitrodice which were advertising unbelievable bankroll for itself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2585181




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December 25, 2019, 06:29:57 PM
Last edit: December 25, 2019, 06:51:53 PM by housework
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I don't know too much about gambling, but the odds that you put in the picture are really crazy  Shocked
At odds, everything only happens at a relative level, it also depends on the element of luck. But with 1395 consecutive losses at a rate of 5%, this means your current win rate is less than 1/1000. Not support your accusation but it is clear that this ratio can make any player angry. What do you think about checking their seeds for transparency?

dont understand what you mean, what I need to check? if you mean server/client seed then idk if there is that kind of option... this site are using i dont understand what kind of Nonce they cannot be reseted(i dont know much about seeds and how they are working) Im only know that most of sites client seed can be reseted from Seuntjie bot using resetseed() and Nonce will be reseted to 0/1, but in Nitrodice its not working like somewhere else... Nonce numbers are not reseted and cannot be reseted at all. (maybe anyone can help me to understand something how was working nitrodice nonce/seeds etc?!)
but really i dont care how site is cheating, or its manipulating with seeds, or they have RNG what can be controled time after time, or what else...
im simple put explanation and post proofs of that site is cheating and are not fair. and I know about what im talking, iv rolled milliards of bets everywhere(many of them in yolo there i have 13 accounts - nickname houseworx) and made milliards of simulations in last few years, i know what is real and what is not Wink
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December 25, 2019, 07:31:15 PM
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This is the first time I have heard of Nitrodice. Why in the world would you invest in such shady sites op? You could have chosen far better alternatives instead. Their house edge might not be as low as 0.5%, but it is close to 1% which is good enough and they are legitimate.

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December 26, 2019, 12:48:08 AM
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I don't know too much about gambling, but the odds that you put in the picture are really crazy  Shocked
At odds, everything only happens at a relative level, it also depends on the element of luck. But with 1395 consecutive losses at a rate of 5%, this means your current win rate is less than 1/1000. Not support your accusation but it is clear that this ratio can make any player angry. What do you think about checking their seeds for transparency?

dont understand what you mean, what I need to check? if you mean server/client seed then idk if there is that kind of option... this site are using i dont understand what kind of Nonce they cannot be reseted(i dont know much about seeds and how they are working) Im only know that most of sites client seed can be reseted from Seuntjie bot using resetseed() and Nonce will be reseted to 0/1, but in Nitrodice its not working like somewhere else... Nonce numbers are not reseted and cannot be reseted at all. (maybe anyone can help me to understand something how was working nitrodice nonce/seeds etc?!)
but really i dont care how site is cheating, or its manipulating with seeds, or they have RNG what can be controled time after time, or what else...
im simple put explanation and post proofs of that site is cheating and are not fair. and I know about what im talking, iv rolled milliards of bets everywhere(many of them in yolo there i have 13 accounts - nickname houseworx) and made milliards of simulations in last few years, i know what is real and what is not Wink

Shady or not this is ridiculous for at least 5 reasons:

1- I don’t know if happens all the time or you just cherry-picked the screenshots where happens to lose in every account.
2- if this was true then you should also win with all the accounts you are using. Did you track that?
3- This would not prove that is rigged but maybe only bugged because of it was true it might be used against the website because you can predict the behaviour and bet at the right moment with all the accounts. So I don’t think the owners are so stupid.
4- Seuntjie certified the website. And he is pretty accurate in removing scam websites.
5- Did you verified the bets with the code provided? If they are all correct then how the hell is possible to scam if the algorithm is public?!! This means that the generated sequence would be always the same for a lot of different parameters!! Prove it. You have all the data to do all the checks. 

That’s the point in this strategy?!

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December 26, 2019, 02:07:11 AM
Last edit: December 26, 2019, 02:28:46 AM by housework
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I don't know too much about gambling, but the odds that you put in the picture are really crazy  Shocked
At odds, everything only happens at a relative level, it also depends on the element of luck. But with 1395 consecutive losses at a rate of 5%, this means your current win rate is less than 1/1000. Not support your accusation but it is clear that this ratio can make any player angry. What do you think about checking their seeds for transparency?

dont understand what you mean, what I need to check? if you mean server/client seed then idk if there is that kind of option... this site are using i dont understand what kind of Nonce they cannot be reseted(i dont know much about seeds and how they are working) Im only know that most of sites client seed can be reseted from Seuntjie bot using resetseed() and Nonce will be reseted to 0/1, but in Nitrodice its not working like somewhere else... Nonce numbers are not reseted and cannot be reseted at all. (maybe anyone can help me to understand something how was working nitrodice nonce/seeds etc?!)
but really i dont care how site is cheating, or its manipulating with seeds, or they have RNG what can be controled time after time, or what else...
im simple put explanation and post proofs of that site is cheating and are not fair. and I know about what im talking, iv rolled milliards of bets everywhere(many of them in yolo there i have 13 accounts - nickname houseworx) and made milliards of simulations in last few years, i know what is real and what is not Wink

Shady or not this is ridiculous for at least 5 reasons:

1- I don’t know if happens all the time or you just cherry-picked the screenshots where happens to lose in every account.
2- if this was true then you should also win with all the accounts you are using. Did you track that?
3- This would not prove that is rigged but maybe only bugged because of it was true it might be used against the website because you can predict the behaviour and bet at the right moment with all the accounts. So I don’t think the owners are so stupid.
4- Seuntjie certified the website. And he is pretty accurate in removing scam websites.
5- Did you verified the bets with the code provided? If they are all correct then how the hell is possible to scam if the algorithm is public?!! This means that the generated sequence would be always the same for a lot of different parameters!! Prove it. You have all the data to do all the checks.  

That’s the point in this strategy?!

Cheers,
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1) read one more time. few time not in all, but 3 of 5 accounts, but its because runned time (logged in) was smaller for they what iv figured out. if you will be 24h+ loggedin and rolled 500k+ rolls then you will get "RNG STREAK" on all accounts.
2) in what scenarion win??? what??? there is no "unrealistic winning streak "periods", RNG luck deviation occurs only in minus sequences(it means you can bet 150000 bets with 97% luck below zero, but you are not having upswings in 150k bets where you will have 103% luck on that distance period.
3) how? what kind of? you only can know that unreal losing streak and deviations from normal will occurs few times in month?!
4) im talked with him, he are testing websites few minutes with rolling and somehow watching, and if they are pay for bot, then he are adding Smiley
5) what? for what i need something to check? im already written upper, im showing people that nitrodice is cheating, i dont care in wich scenario! what I need to proof?

btw, alot of question for new user with post on 3 topic, where two of it is nitrodice Smiley
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December 26, 2019, 02:18:07 AM
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if you mean server/client seed then idk if there is that kind of option... this site are using i dont understand what kind of Nonce they cannot be reseted(i dont know much about seeds and how they are working) Im only know that most of sites client seed can be reseted from Seuntjie bot using resetseed() and Nonce will be reseted to 0/1, but in Nitrodice its not working like somewhere else... Nonce numbers are not reseted and cannot be reseted at all. (maybe anyone can help me to understand something how was working nitrodice nonce/seeds etc?!)
That's exactly what I mean, by checking the seeds, you can know the transparency of their algorithm. But it cannot be reseted, which means this site does not work transparently. Like others, I've never seen this site before. Look at the TRUST of Id Youthub, Nitrodice has not been proven to be a secure website yet, which means it can be a scam site like you said. So never use such new sites, low houses edge are not good

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December 27, 2019, 12:34:01 AM
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@housework see this find https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134235.msg51717046#msg51717046 they copied Seuntjies DiceBot into a web browser
 
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again get some RNG streak in same time in all accounts 300 loses in row on 5%!

https://imgur.com/JapF7zz

p.s after few minutes on other side(high) the same streaks. its ridiculus Cheesy
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December 28, 2019, 08:53:58 PM
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Did you verify? https://www.nitrodice.com/fairbets

Doesn't DiceBot also have automatic verification, IIRC?
Also not sure how your streaks are all 301 when the "worst streak" was <200... unless Dicebot doesn't update live.


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December 28, 2019, 10:18:40 PM
Last edit: December 28, 2019, 10:32:37 PM by housework
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Did you verify? https://www.nitrodice.com/fairbets

Doesn't DiceBot also have automatic verification, IIRC?
Also not sure how your streaks are all 301 when the "worst streak" was <200... unless Dicebot doesn't update live.

https://i.imgur.com/JapF7zz.jpg
- now I was banned in site there Cheesy
 - dont know what is this "automatic verification IIRC"

 - script does

    if currentstreak < -300 then
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    end

thats why stats shows -301
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December 29, 2019, 05:04:02 PM
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RNG making ridiculus streaks every day, nothing changing.

https://imgur.com/ZKM4zNi

(*im simple lazy to stackoff allbots to show the exactly same time)
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