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March 18, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
Last edit: March 19, 2014, 07:20:43 PM by MuffinMaster
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Lets be honest, the only thing anyone really cares about is value.

Do you get value out of your coin/currency?


>> Bitcoin <<

The first cryptocurrancy but it has certain drawbacks that many many alts have tried to fill.
Its slow
Blockchain is huge
not truly anonymous
About 5% (actually 11%) inflation right now with mining >> your coins worth less overtime
Few large holders of coins
Massive mining farms can control the price as they can dump or withhold supply as desired.

But it obviously has value.

Most alts have tried to play into the hype that is Bitcoin and Litecoin and varying degrees of success, the last one being Doge. I'm not going into the pump and dump premine coins that are Auroacoin or Spaincoin or whatever flavor it is today.

Enter >> Blackcoin <<

I definitely think everyone needs to take a second look at Blackcoin as it solves the biggest problems bitcoin has.
Blackcoin has:
  • 1% max inflation annually, new coins are only created by PoS.
  • First ever PoS coin to have solved the forking issue (almost 30 days old and no fork)
  • No one person controls more then 2% of the coins
  • First ever Altcoin multipool that will mine everything else and give you Blackcoins bought from the market (live this weekend March 21-22)
  • Less then 75 million coins
  • Fast (less important but its a plus)
  • NO PREMINE or IPO

Blackcoin is not for anyone in particular. It doesn't have an agenda like the gimmicky specialty coins. It is only designed to create valuable blackcoins.

How does Blackcoin accomplish this?
  • No additional supply being dumped daily on the market, currently there is less then .2(Actually .06) BTC being created daily. For contrast, 500+ BTC is needed to sustain the DOGE price... per day.
  • No large holders manipulating the market.
  • MultiPool that constantly converts alts and even BTC directly into BC value at a calculable rate. Currently tested at 7.5 GH scyrpt and 1.5 TH on SHA256 during the beta on March 14th-16th

The Bottom Line


This is a feedback system without a blowoff valve(aka inflation). I honestly don't know what blackcoin will do at higher market-caps, but I can say it could reach pretty massive heights. I wanted to make this as even people that are trading blackcoin right now don't truly understand what its capable of.


TLDR : Blackcoin will retain whatever value you put into it and grow over time.

www.Blackcoin.co
https://www.mintpal.com/market/BC/BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640

EDITED to included corrected inflation numbers


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March 18, 2014, 08:30:34 PM
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I think BC will be a good store of appreciating value over time.

It's going to be difficult the first week once the bcmultipool fires back up, but after a week I think we will see prices stabilize a bit.
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March 18, 2014, 08:37:54 PM
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I'll try it out Grin
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March 18, 2014, 08:43:30 PM
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I believe BC has a chance. I think they fucked up BIG TIME by putting out the beta multipool. That was a unique idea that they should have done everything they could to perfect during a private beta. Now, other coins have multipools up doing the same thing as blackcoin while the blackcoin pool is down to finish development. Is MintCoin's multipool in beta or perm?

Either way, BlackCoin shot itself in the foot and now has to hobble along hoping it heals right.

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March 18, 2014, 08:47:18 PM
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I believe BC has a chance. I think they fucked up BIG TIME by putting out the beta multipool. That was a unique idea that they should have done everything they could to perfect during a private beta. Now, other coins have multipools up doing the same thing as blackcoin while the blackcoin pool is down to finish development. Is MintCoin's multipool in beta or perm?

Either way, BlackCoin shot itself in the foot and now has to hobble along hoping it heals right.



The mintcoin pool is a joke at 50 mh. The blackcoin pool will be over 7.5gh (expecting closer to 20 gh within a week) not including all the other algorithms.

1 week turnaround from beta to live seems pretty reasonable.

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March 18, 2014, 08:49:52 PM
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I believe BC has a chance. I think they fucked up BIG TIME by putting out the beta multipool. That was a unique idea that they should have done everything they could to perfect during a private beta. Now, other coins have multipools up doing the same thing as blackcoin while the blackcoin pool is down to finish development. Is MintCoin's multipool in beta or perm?

Either way, BlackCoin shot itself in the foot and now has to hobble along hoping it heals right.



The mintcoin pool is a joke at 50 mh. The blackcoin pool will be over 7.5gh (expecting closer to 20 gh within a week) not including all the other algorithms.

1 week turnaround from beta to live seems pretty reasonable.
I don't disagree that the turn around from beta to live is reasonable, and I'll admit I have not looked in to MintCoin's multipool - my point is that you want to get dedicated miners in early so they don't hop on another coin. If they can return to what the previously had in beta and exceed that to what you're predicting, I'll be stoked as that means I was right about BC's future... my fear is that a week off, with other devs now stealing the idea, could harm it. Time will tell and I hope I'm wrong.


Also, I mined it for 36-48 hours and only got 300bc at 2440khs.. was kind of disappointed but expected as much from a beta.
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March 18, 2014, 08:55:14 PM
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I believe BC has a chance. I think they fucked up BIG TIME by putting out the beta multipool. That was a unique idea that they should have done everything they could to perfect during a private beta. Now, other coins have multipools up doing the same thing as blackcoin while the blackcoin pool is down to finish development. Is MintCoin's multipool in beta or perm?

Either way, BlackCoin shot itself in the foot and now has to hobble along hoping it heals right.



The mintcoin pool is a joke at 50 mh. The blackcoin pool will be over 7.5gh (expecting closer to 20 gh within a week) not including all the other algorithms.

1 week turnaround from beta to live seems pretty reasonable.
I don't disagree that the turn around from beta to live is reasonable, and I'll admit I have not looked in to MintCoin's multipool - my point is that you want to get dedicated miners in early so they don't hop on another coin. If they can return to what the previously had in beta and exceed that to what you're predicting, I'll be stoked as that means I was right about BC's future... my fear is that a week off, with other devs now stealing the idea, could harm it. Time will tell and I hope I'm wrong.


Also, I mined it for 36-48 hours and only got 300bc at 2440khs.. was kind of disappointed but expected as much from a beta.

I totally agree with you. I also mined on the pool at got around 500 coins for 24 hours with 7 mh... I normally get around 2000/day. But keep in mind I was normally mining around the price of 500-2000, not the 3000+ it was during the weekend and it was mining a shitty coin. The beta was just to test the load of the servers, the actual payouts were rather lackluster.

It will be completely automated with low fees once it goes live.

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March 19, 2014, 12:45:32 PM
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March 19, 2014, 12:49:16 PM
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i dont think anyone really understands what we have stummbled on here. this has the tech and the correct setup to really shake up the value of this coin.
all miners will now be worth using
a coin thats a safe investment because of constant buy power

1 bc = 1btc!! there i said it first! lol

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March 19, 2014, 12:51:19 PM
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i think this is going somewhere
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March 19, 2014, 02:50:27 PM
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i think this is going somewhere

BC will be top 5 volume for the 2nd time in 5 days.... not even top 20 market cap. It's going to equalize

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March 19, 2014, 02:54:01 PM
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I believe BC has a chance. I think they fucked up BIG TIME by putting out the beta multipool. That was a unique idea that they should have done everything they could to perfect during a private beta. Now, other coins have multipools up doing the same thing as blackcoin while the blackcoin pool is down to finish development. Is MintCoin's multipool in beta or perm?

Either way, BlackCoin shot itself in the foot and now has to hobble along hoping it heals right.



The mintcoin pool is a joke at 50 mh. The blackcoin pool will be over 7.5gh (expecting closer to 20 gh within a week) not including all the other algorithms.

1 week turnaround from beta to live seems pretty reasonable.
I don't disagree that the turn around from beta to live is reasonable, and I'll admit I have not looked in to MintCoin's multipool - my point is that you want to get dedicated miners in early so they don't hop on another coin. If they can return to what the previously had in beta and exceed that to what you're predicting, I'll be stoked as that means I was right about BC's future... my fear is that a week off, with other devs now stealing the idea, could harm it. Time will tell and I hope I'm wrong.


Also, I mined it for 36-48 hours and only got 300bc at 2440khs.. was kind of disappointed but expected as much from a beta.

You can allays try copy something but that not always will work.
Perfect coin for such action like BC is:
- 0 premine all coins have some Value, no backstab from greedy Devs Wink ( research Mint, Panda)
- low inflation 0-1% or no inflation

Some inflation like 1% is needed to keep POS alive.
1% inflation in POS can lead you avoid to pay ridiculous fees like with NXT...!
Eg 1 BC cost 1000$ and you pay 0.1$(or 0 Wink ) for transfer while with next
1 NXT = 1000$ and you pay hmm 1000% for transfer...But allways you cannot avoid fee.
Conclusion some inflation but low is better than 0% and ridiculous fees.

About Bitcoin inflation is not 5%... BUT 11,11% surce : https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply
Litecoin this year will have 33%...
In 11 years  BTC will get less than 1% inflation but that inflation.
BTC It can take even more even 20 years to get 1%... because real amount BTC will be lower by projects like Mastercoin,XPM which destroys BTC forever and BTC Vanish from market for ever.

We produce ~2054 New BC Day to buy all you need ~0.06 BTC... BTC with price 3000sat
But do you believe if someone has Eg 100k and get 2BC daily from stake he will rush to sell it Cheesy ^^ ?

Please correct Data 0.06BTC...to Buy all BC (PS: once i made sililar error 1% from 75m is 0.75m / 365 = 2054BC day)
And BTC inflation to 10% ^^ https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply


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March 19, 2014, 03:11:07 PM
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Updated, thanks for the research Blade

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March 19, 2014, 03:20:10 PM
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i dont think anyone really understands what we have stummbled on here. this has the tech and the correct setup to really shake up the value of this coin.
all miners will now be worth using
a coin thats a safe investment because of constant buy power

Agree 100%

It has transformed the need for ever-growing hashing ASIC power that has BTC into a permanent drain from other altcoins. In fact, if i were a BTC whale, i will point my miners directly to BC to damage the rest.

ONE FOR RULE THEM ALL.

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March 19, 2014, 03:25:25 PM
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Call me crazy but I think this might reach Litecoins market cap, it may not be for a few months but it will come eventually
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March 19, 2014, 03:38:25 PM
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I am seeing Blackcoin getting more and more popular. I have a few thousand and I certainly am not selling them. I will hold them for the long haul. If they ever reach the litecoin price it will be just awesome. Smiley
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Instamined gimmicky sponger.
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March 19, 2014, 05:24:45 PM
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Instamined gimmicky sponger.

https://twitter.com/CoinBlack/status/446335086611288065

20 + GH scyrpt

6.5 TH SHA within 60 minutes of being operational.

150+ BTC bought on open market per day

almost 100k added to the market cap every day.


Not sure what is gimmicky about draining all other coins of value in a low inflation coin.

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March 19, 2014, 07:02:37 PM
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So why is blackcoin better than anoncoin?

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March 19, 2014, 07:11:39 PM
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Very nice write up MuffinMaster, sorry I missed this I would have posted sooner.

As time goes on it will become more apparent what a gem we have here with Blackcoin. 100% proof of stake means it's much more energy efficient than Bitcoin or Litecoin or in fact almost any other coin out there.

What has been a real bonus for me with this coin is we have an active developer who is spending his resources on clever ideas like the blackhole multipool.

Most importantly though - no premine and the coins were allocated through proof of work mining.

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