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December 30, 2019, 10:39:54 AM
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I don't know but for Lauda is still a person that catches a lot of spammers and did helped the forum on many ways, with continuously searching spammers/scammers and whatsoever then of-course you will be a hated person by a lot of members as well and many will try to stop that person and....
So I think he/she earned a lot of credit by helping out, I do remember having a question and being answered prompt (don't remember the matter instantly, but it was fast) Then again if the red-feedback was only on that merit post that was saying something over highly respected members then I would say thats over the line.... Imo I would say its fair to remove the red and maybe make a neutral in which you say something but red-feedback isn't at its place (for me).

While your opinion appears valid to others, your recommendations are clearly not welcome:

Just ~Lauda and fuck off if you don't agree with it. There's literally no reason to discuss anything and it's a waste of everyone's time.

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December 30, 2019, 10:53:23 AM
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Indeed, the main thing I don't understand on whole of the forum is why people curse this much ... like truly everyone, IRL the more one yells, or say bad things, the more they are wrong, in here everyone does  Roll Eyes So thats hard as well to find some truth in it, though on forum stuff I slightly follow some members as I always read good and well reasoned stuff from the.



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December 30, 2019, 05:32:09 PM
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I don't know but for Lauda is still a person that catches a lot of spammers and did helped the forum on many ways, with continuously searching spammers/scammers and whatsoever then of-course you will be a hated person by a lot of members as well and many will try to stop that person and....
So I think he/she earned a lot of credit by helping out, I do remember having a question and being answered prompt (don't remember the matter instantly, but it was fast) Then again if the red-feedback was only on that merit post that was saying something over highly respected members then I would say thats over the line.... Imo I would say its fair to remove the red and maybe make a neutral in which you say something but red-feedback isn't at its place (for me).
  

You sound like an abused house wife telling us how much her man has changed for the better as she holds an ice pack to her eye.
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December 30, 2019, 06:26:16 PM
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I didn't say what is acceptable or not, I said "people need to know your double standard concerning what could be good or bad for a community. "

and I will post it!

It's your own theory claming it to be double standards or a trap. I have tried to generalized the topic as much as I can, and even clearly mentioned I need opinions.

You can post anything you like, but your views on the issue would reflect your nature. I would rather claim this as your double standards concerning without even reading the OP properly.



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Indeed, the main thing I don't understand on whole of the forum is why people curse this much ... like truly everyone, IRL the more one yells, or say bad things, the more they are wrong, in here everyone does  Roll Eyes So thats hard as well to find some truth in it, though on forum stuff I slightly follow some members as I always read good and well reasoned stuff from the.

I see you finding truth in this type ratings being bogus, but rolling the ditrusting part in slippy words.

Better said here.

You sound like an abused house wife telling us how much her man has changed for the better as she holds an ice pack to her eye.
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December 30, 2019, 06:40:47 PM
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I don't know but for Lauda is still a person that catches a lot of spammers and did helped the forum on many ways, with continuously searching spammers/scammers and whatsoever then of-course you will be a hated person by a lot of members as well and many will try to stop that person and....
So I think he/she earned a lot of credit by helping out, I do remember having a question and being answered prompt (don't remember the matter instantly, but it was fast) Then again if the red-feedback was only on that merit post that was saying something over highly respected members then I would say thats over the line.... Imo I would say its fair to remove the red and maybe make a neutral in which you say something but red-feedback isn't at its place (for me).
   

You sound like an abused house wife telling us how much her man has changed for the better as she holds an ice pack to her eye.

I don’t know how to say this sir and I would pick my words carefully but there just are no other words like you are a d*ck that behaves himself under very much circumstances as a total d*ck!

I wouldn’t distrust you for a trade or whatsoever but I do dislike your approach to many other members.....

With words I know I doesn’t have to cross swords with you cause that a losing situation for even when I would be right it’s still exhausting and would end in a loss probably though I just know on behavior toward another member, other persons I will outclass you any day.

you don't have to be derogatory to everyone at any time.... you are a Legendary old timer, behave as one.... It will lead you to better places.

Even Lauda didn’t agree with me telling you had a point, though he didn’t disrespect my sayings as you always do for who know which reasons.

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December 30, 2019, 07:46:55 PM
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Look like you were thinking I agree with Lauda but I don't. But since you say it is my double standard, it doesn't matter a lot.

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but your views on the issue would reflect your nature. I would rather claim this as your double standards
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Yes you act like if you seem to care about the forum community and ask people opinion, but why didn't you ask it too in the OP if

Do you think it's good for the community to propose your service to manage multiple Bitcointalk accounts to participate in signature campaigns https://www.reddit.com/user/hacker1001101001/comments/7l0pv6/hirefor_managing_bitcointalk_accounts/

Do you think it's good for the forum community to have multiple accounts here?
https://web.archive.org/web/20180627125302/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2454436.msg25181383
https://twitter.com/1001101001hack
https://web.archive.org/web/20191229174919/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1329605
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1727627

Do you think it's good for the community to offer ICOs bumping service?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029913.msg45768373#msg45768373

Now I would like to read from other members what I'm supposed to think about this, is it helping the forum community?

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I forgot to ask...
Who is managing this account today? What was your previous account before you register this one?

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Look like I have some things to add but I need to use @LoyceV and @DdmrDdmr tools and it bothers me because I don't like to jump into the fights here. But if what I think is right, the issue is bigger than that


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December 30, 2019, 08:10:17 PM
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I have to say.... thats not cool as not good for the community.... writing in others name just to earn coin could be addressed as just spamming....

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December 30, 2019, 09:01:01 PM
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I don't know but for Lauda is still a person that catches a lot of spammers and did helped the forum on many ways, with continuously searching spammers/scammers and whatsoever then of-course you will be a hated person by a lot of members as well and many will try to stop that person and....
So I think he/she earned a lot of credit by helping out, I do remember having a question and being answered prompt (don't remember the matter instantly, but it was fast) Then again if the red-feedback was only on that merit post that was saying something over highly respected members then I would say thats over the line.... Imo I would say its fair to remove the red and maybe make a neutral in which you say something but red-feedback isn't at its place (for me).
   

You sound like an abused house wife telling us how much her man has changed for the better as she holds an ice pack to her eye.

I don’t know how to say this sir and I would pick my words carefully but there just are no other words like you are a d*ck that behaves himself under very much circumstances as a total d*ck!

I wouldn’t distrust you for a trade or whatsoever but I do dislike your approach to many other members.....

With words I know I doesn’t have to cross swords with you cause that a losing situation for even when I would be right it’s still exhausting and would end in a loss probably though I just know on behavior toward another member, other persons I will outclass you any day.

you don't have to be derogatory to everyone at any time.... you are a Legendary old timer, behave as one.... It will lead you to better places.

Even Lauda didn’t agree with me telling you had a point, though he didn’t disrespect my sayings as you always do for who know which reasons.

I am a dick. Other people might describe me as blunt and direct. I am well aware I rub some people the wrong way, and I frankly am not that concerned about it. What I am more concerned about is people not abusing the systems here to pursue vendettas against others for doing little more than rubbing them the wrong way.

My comment was not intended to be derogatory but rather elucidating to the pattern you are exhibiting as it is indeed a common one. If this offends you that is unfortunate, but dancing around the truth often allows it to be obfuscated. You seem to be the type of person who would tolerate long term abuse if you could avoid conflict, I am not. I would rather have an all out conflict and get it over with and have long term peace. This forum has a pathological obsession with conflict avoidance. Conflict often serves many positive purposes, the trick is figuring out the difference between the purposeful and the futile. There is no point to class if it means sacrificing your values. Violating your own principles for the sake of avoiding conflict is not classy at all.
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December 30, 2019, 09:14:21 PM
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I don't know but for Lauda is still a person that catches a lot of spammers and did helped the forum on many ways, with continuously searching spammers/scammers and whatsoever then of-course you will be a hated person by a lot of members as well and many will try to stop that person and....
So I think he/she earned a lot of credit by helping out, I do remember having a question and being answered prompt (don't remember the matter instantly, but it was fast) Then again if the red-feedback was only on that merit post that was saying something over highly respected members then I would say thats over the line.... Imo I would say its fair to remove the red and maybe make a neutral in which you say something but red-feedback isn't at its place (for me).
   

You sound like an abused house wife telling us how much her man has changed for the better as she holds an ice pack to her eye.

I don’t know how to say this sir and I would pick my words carefully but there just are no other words like you are a d*ck that behaves himself under very much circumstances as a total d*ck!

I wouldn’t distrust you for a trade or whatsoever but I do dislike your approach to many other members.....

With words I know I doesn’t have to cross swords with you cause that a losing situation for even when I would be right it’s still exhausting and would end in a loss probably though I just know on behavior toward another member, other persons I will outclass you any day.

you don't have to be derogatory to everyone at any time.... you are a Legendary old timer, behave as one.... It will lead you to better places.

Even Lauda didn’t agree with me telling you had a point, though he didn’t disrespect my sayings as you always do for who know which reasons.

I am a dick. Other people might describe me as blunt and direct. I am well aware I rub some people the wrong way, and I frankly am not that concerned about it. What I am more concerned about is people not abusing the systems here to pursue vendettas against others for doing little more than rubbing them the wrong way.

My comment was not intended to be derogatory but rather elucidating to the pattern you are exhibiting as it is indeed a common one. If this offends you that is unfortunate, but dancing around the truth often allows it to be obfuscated. You seem to be the type of person who would tolerate long term abuse if you could avoid conflict, I am not. I would rather have an all out conflict and get it over with and have long term peace. This forum has a pathological obsession with conflict avoidance. Conflict often serves many positive purposes, the trick is figuring out the difference between the purposeful and the futile. There is no point to class if it means sacrificing your values. Violating your own principles for the sake of avoiding conflict is not classy at all.

Main thing here is i'm saying the point of that specific NEG-feedback for that reason of that merit on that post was inappropriate... Here i'm saying that imo Lauda is wrong then why being a d*ck towards me, here i'm just showing i'm a guy that isn't on no ones side or whatsoever and in some cases members as you can be right, on other Lauda could have a point...
Thats not unreasonable I think, but on other things I could sometimes better read the OP carefully before saying some things that isn't based on the full story, for that I know I have been wrong for some people...

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December 30, 2019, 09:28:26 PM
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Main thing here is i'm saying the point of that specific NEG-feedback for that reason of that merit on that post was inappropriate... Here i'm saying that imo Lauda is wrong then why being a d*ck towards me, here i'm just showing i'm a guy that isn't on no ones side or whatsoever and in some cases members as you can be right, on other Lauda could have a point...
Thats not unreasonable I think, but on other things I could sometimes better read the OP carefully before saying some things that isn't based on the full story, for that I know I have been wrong for some people...

Maybe read what I said again. I have no control over whether you get offended or not, only you do. I am not going to mute my words because you take offense to them, sorry. You can either find a way to deal with it or keep complaining about it, either way I won't be catering to your demands to fix something you have complete control over.
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Main thing here is i'm saying the point of that specific NEG-feedback for that reason of that merit on that post was inappropriate... Here i'm saying that imo Lauda is wrong then why being a d*ck towards me, here i'm just showing i'm a guy that isn't on no ones side or whatsoever and in some cases members as you can be right, on other Lauda could have a point...
Thats not unreasonable I think, but on other things I could sometimes better read the OP carefully before saying some things that isn't based on the full story, for that I know I have been wrong for some people...

Maybe read what I said again. I have no control over whether you get offended or not, only you do. I am not going to mute my words because you take offense to them, sorry. You can either find a way to deal with it or keep complaining about it, either way I won't be catering to your demands to fix something you have complete control over.

Fair enough, i'm not offended, maybe misread or read a bit fast as i'm multi amusing myself at this moment ... Roll Eyes

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December 30, 2019, 10:35:27 PM
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the main thing I don't understand on whole of the forum is why people curse this much ... like truly everyone
my ass..

You are right..
I use foul words sometimes when I shouldn't but I'm not sure if you could ever find me using them to insult anyone..
I try not to use insults in general..

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Well that sucks, even though it is a bit beside the point, it doesn't lend itself well to the point..
Not many of us survive the extreme scrutinization after being outspoken, but some of us do.. It hurts the point though..

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its accepted if you asked lauda and his colleagues,they wont admit these are power abuses using the trust system.
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Yes you act like if you seem to care about the forum community and ask people opinion, but why didn't you ask it too in the OP if

Do you think it's good for the community to propose your service to manage multiple Bitcointalk accounts to participate in signature campaigns https://www.reddit.com/user/hacker1001101001/comments/7l0pv6/hirefor_managing_bitcointalk_accounts/

That is not even my reddit account, it has just one post which has my telegram ID, that doesn't prove I have posted that message.


Do you think it's good for the forum community to have multiple accounts here?

Yes, I think it's acceptable and many reputed members already do have alts here. It's not even banned by forum rules.


I agree this is my twitter account, which I don't even use often but yaa it's mine. WTF is wrong with it ?


Yes, it is my account I created 2 years back, but not logged in from an year or so ! WTF is worng with it ?


airtman is not my account, this is were your deactive work got deflected. He just used my telegram ID once, I even asked him on telegram immediately to remove my ID from the posts as I was unaware what he was offering properly. I even have proof of telling him that don't involve me here, but he was unable to edit the thread.


I forgot to ask...
Who is managing this account today? What was your previous account before you register this one?

One last time, this is MY own account, I AM the operator of this account right from the date of creation.



Now please stay on topic here, pull up all your personal attacks somewhere else. You are looking pretty bad.
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That is not even my reddit account, it has just one post which has my telegram ID, that doesn't prove I have posted that message.
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airtman is not my account, this is were your deactive work got deflected. He just used my telegram ID once, I even asked him on telegram immediately to remove my ID from the posts as I was unaware what he was offering properly. I even have proof of telling him that don't involve me here, but he was unable to edit the thread.

Wait a minute, sorry to go off topic here but there's something I'd like clarified:  Some random redditor (coincidentally using the exact same pseudonym that you use here) mistakenly posted your actual Telegram username on reddit?  What are the odds of that happening?

And then some random newbie offering the same service as the reddit post also mistakenly posted your Telegram username in a post here on the forum?

In that screen shot you posted the user to whom you were talking complained about getting red-tagged, to which you responded "yes, you mentioned that we offer paid posting."  Care to shed more light on how all of this happened?  


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December 31, 2019, 06:20:05 AM
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Wait a minute, sorry to go off topic here but there's something I'd like clarified:  Some random redditor (coincidentally using the exact same pseudonym that you use here) mistakenly posted your actual Telegram username on reddit?  What are the odds of that happening?

Very less, I know, but it was not posted mistakenly but intendedly. I was rather engaged in ICOs and there marketing at that time and many users offering such services come into contact for promotion. I don't know who posted it under my pseudoynym, but it happened without my notice.


And then some random newbie offering the same service as the reddit post also mistakenly posted your Telegram username in a post here on the forum?

In that screen shot you posted the user to whom you were talking complained about getting red-tagged, to which you responded "yes, you mentioned that we offer paid posting."  Care to shed more light on how all of this happened?

The user I am talking to is airtman or @Gifthoy ( the person posting that thread ). My statement that "yes, you mentioned that we offer paid posting." was as I was unaware he was offering bumping and even involving me in it, I got in contact with him due to my involvements in ICOs back then. Even later I asked him to lock the thread as I was not willing to engage in any such activities here. Proof.



Thanks for being civil and saying sorry to go off-topic but better PM me with your concern, I would be happy to address. The topic in the OP is bit more severe.
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December 31, 2019, 06:52:11 AM
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That is not even my reddit account, it has just one post which has my telegram ID, that doesn't prove I have posted that message.
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airtman is not my account, this is were your deactive work got deflected. He just used my telegram ID once, I even asked him on telegram immediately to remove my ID from the posts as I was unaware what he was offering properly. I even have proof of telling him that don't involve me here, but he was unable to edit the thread.

Wait a minute, sorry to go off topic here but there's something I'd like clarified:  Some random redditor (coincidentally using the exact same pseudonym that you use here) mistakenly posted your actual Telegram username on reddit?  What are the odds of that happening?

And then some random newbie offering the same service as the reddit post also mistakenly posted your Telegram username in a post here on the forum?

In that screen shot you posted the user to whom you were talking complained about getting red-tagged, to which you responded "yes, you mentioned that we offer paid posting."  Care to shed more light on how all of this happened?  



This is exactly the kind of stuff that keeps you on my excluded list. This has nothing to do with the topic or the rating he received. If you want to scrutinize the target of abuse until you feel you have reached a point of false equivalence start your own topic on the matter if it is so critically important.
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Now please stay on topic here, pull up all your personal attacks somewhere else. You are looking pretty bad.

I would also appreciate that members stay on topic here, especially high-ranking ones who should know better to be honest.

This has nothing to do with the topic or the rating he received. If you want to scrutinize the target of abuse until you feel you have reached a point of false equivalence start your own topic on the matter if it is so critically important.

To be clear: the legitimacy of any accusations against hacker1001101001 are irrelevant here, as it's maliciously off-topic, hence distracts from the topic. If anything, the legitimacy of these claims have been reduced considerably by default, due to the unconventional and controversial manner in which they were raised. I hope that other members reading this can see the obvious deflection tactics being used.



To return to the topic, this is the sort of person and mentality that is being discussed at the moment, yet again:

I have to say, leaving negative feedback for sending a single merit for something a person likes is a bit much not? Lauda?
Like it involved some very good members and stuff.... I also wouldn't appreciate some negative trust for just a difference in opinion ...
I would go up to flag ban them, but since liberals make the flag-rules here this is the compromise solution for liars.

As a reminder, this user does not care about the opinions, concerns or recommendations of others, despite being trusted by many DT1 members:

Just ~Lauda and fuck off if you don't agree with it.

This obviously reflects badly upon those who trust this user's judgement, as opposed to the user in question, who openly doesn't care:

If a DT member tags you for something stupid involving merit (ie. probably anything less than selling merit), then they're not going to be a DT member for much longer.

Lauda isn't the problem here.

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December 31, 2019, 11:03:26 AM
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Lauda isn't the problem here.

Right, the problem is the community not reacting to such type of abuse in an expected manner which is even suggested by theymos himself (the creator of this political system).
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December 31, 2019, 02:57:45 PM
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I was tagged once because I have sent merit to post, it is not cool. Good thing is that person who sent me negative removed it.

Why would you merit post where Tec's hare calls lauda scammer and you defend OG when other users call him out and you don't send them merit?

Makes no sense, double standards.
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