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December 31, 2019, 02:42:37 PM |
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I got bitcoin. I want to pay someone in Indonesia.
I want to pay some 3rd party some bitcoin worth say $5-$10. I want someone to transferwise money to an account in Indonesia.
Is that possible?
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December 31, 2019, 02:50:24 PM |
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I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think so. You'd have to go through a money processor mediator to do that. Not sure about the actual specifics of what you need, but what you can probably do is to send the person the bitcoin, and just ask him/her to sell the coins through services like Bisq[1] as to not tie his/her name to a crypto-related service.
[1] https://bisq.network/
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December 31, 2019, 03:04:10 PM |
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I think you need to use service from people who provide exchange service in indonesia. Like, ayoungchanger, ahaschanger, etc.
You transfer your btc to him, and ask him to tranfer rupiah to your recipient bank account.
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December 31, 2019, 03:10:04 PM |
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I got bitcoin. I want to pay someone in Indonesia.
I want to pay some 3rd party some bitcoin worth say $5-$10. I want someone to transferwise money to an account in Indonesia.
Is that possible?
Maybe you can find escort from indonesia in this forum.And then you can ask him what to be solution for it. Some escorts that already have reputation usually already did many kind of transactions and maybe he can help you with it. Or ask moderator from Indonesia section and find if he can help you or not.
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December 31, 2019, 05:53:44 PM |
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Take a look at the Indonesian or Services section. You shouldn't find any difficulties finding someone to do it for you as long as you're offering a small bounty.
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January 02, 2020, 08:07:25 AM Last edit: January 02, 2020, 01:19:48 PM by beerlover |
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I have done this once and I followed one "non-recommended" way of trick to get money into someone's account for selling bitcoins from my regular peer-peer services. It became possible for me as my service provider is not checking names on my given bank account and bank details are editable always which requires no approval (because I guess that changing bank accounts will not impact the service provider in any means).
For doing so, you must be familiar with how your service is working otherwise you may end up getting your account locked up with funds. I am not recommending this method; if you want to try, please do at your responsibility.
I believe this would be somewhat related to mention here: Even for card transactions, name checks are NOT being done by visa/master cards as many times I have used my short names (whereas my bank accounts are with my full name) and all the times, my payments were successful. (I remember sometimes few processors are not bothering about credit/debit cards as we can choose either one regardless of our card type).
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January 02, 2020, 11:49:18 AM |
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I'll support the recommendations above, Bisq in particular. All you need to do is sell some Bitcoin, and only allow the user to pay for your Bitcoin via cash deposit (which is accepted anonymously at thousands of locations in Indonesia).
Note, this does mean it is a third party sell (ie, you are selling, but the payer is depositing to another person).
It's not exactly anonymous either, it only removes the link from you to the deposit account. I can't think of many people who would accept 3rd party though (I myself don't).
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January 02, 2020, 01:03:39 PM |
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You shouldn't find any difficulties finding someone to do it for you as long as you're offering a small bounty.
That's the actual concerning part. OP (applies to anyone basically) isn't super trusted on this forum, so you have to be really careful that you don't expose yourself as part of something fishy, or something that the authorities deem fishy. The small bounty you're earning isn't worth the potential trouble you're getting yourself into. Not implying OP has ill intentions, but at one point someone else you are doing a favor might have. Better safe than sorry. I'm sure OP will find a way to get the job done himself.
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January 02, 2020, 07:55:27 PM |
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If you are getting worried that your address will be associated from you in some way I think the best thing to do is to create a new wallet and then fund it on another channel where you won't send your Bitcoin from your wallet to your new wallet. Buy Bitcoin from localbitcoins or Coinbase or a Bitcoin ATM and after funding your new wallet with Bitcoin then you can send it to someone in Indonesia with you still having a peace of mind. You should take note that Bitcoin is legal in Indonesia to trade with and not some kind of payment so if you are just sending it as some kind of remittance to a friend of family member I don't think it will be necessary for you to do the things I have said above.
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January 03, 2020, 12:08:28 AM |
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Words "anonymously" and "bank" in one sentence - it sounds impossible. You probably neef another person which can help you. You simply send Bitcoins to that person and then he just pay for someone that you need using his bank account. But it's very important to find someone trusted to avoid being scammed. And also, that person will charge smaller or bigger payment for this task. Probably some advices above is good, but I simply never did such thing as you're planning to do, so I can't tell much about other available options for you. Maybe you can find escort from indonesia in this forum.And then you can ask him what to be solution for it. Some escorts that already have reputation usually already did many kind of transactions and maybe he can help you with it. Or ask moderator from Indonesia section and find if he can help you or not.
Escort? Do you really mean exactly what you wrote? Maybe you're talking about escrow...
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January 03, 2020, 05:54:52 AM |
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Most Indonesian bitcoiners use Indodax which has something like 'voucher code'. This code can be exchange for balances. So, let's say you need $10, you can buy a voucher worth $10, send it to your receiver as payment and he can exchange it for $10 worth of Rupiah. But of course, this requires them to have an Indodax account. You can probably buy that code from someone trusted in the Indonesian board.
This is an alternative that might worth trying if you don't mind the hassle.
* I'm not really familiar with this code thing, never use it personally.
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January 03, 2020, 06:27:42 AM |
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I am afraid your request cannot be fulfilled. I'm pretty sure the amount you want to deposit is a lot of money, that's why you don't use regular Bitcoin trading websites. I'm not sure about the laws of Indonesia, but I'm sure no one can send money anonymously through banks. It is impossible ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Also, there is another problem, how do you transfer money to a third party if you cannot send money through the bank. EDIT: A little curious, what kind of currency you will pay
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January 04, 2020, 05:25:35 AM |
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No, this is not possible. You can use many different anonymous services to send money, but not through the bank. Regardless of the method to send money, the bank always requires the identity of both the sender and the receiver, it is mandatory, you have no way to cheat. If a transaction is incorrect and the sender's and recipient's information is incorrect, the transaction will be removed immediately. If you give fake information, you will face the risk of losing money, the transaction is not made and you cannot prove it is your money, you lose everything.
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January 04, 2020, 08:04:06 PM |
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I am afraid your request cannot be fulfilled. I'm pretty sure the amount you want to deposit is a lot of money, that's why you don't use regular Bitcoin trading websites. I'm not sure about the laws of Indonesia, but I'm sure no one can send money anonymously through banks. It is impossible ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Also, there is another problem, how do you transfer money to a third party if you cannot send money through the bank. EDIT: A little curious, what kind of currency you will pay You must not have heard of cash deposit machines (and it's a method already suggested above). They're like ATMs (or some even have an ATM function). You deposit cash into any account you want, it doesn't even ask for registration, (it does have a cam though) and there are high limits. Very, very popular in cash-heavy Southeast Asia, definitely in Indonesia where OP's asking. The voucher system mentioned above is also pretty popular in SEA. Both methods were very popular on Localbitcoins until they were removed a few months back. Traders are still offering/doing it though...
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