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January 01, 2020, 02:56:21 PM
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I need lists of projects that were thought to be scam and faced many wrong accusations but in the end still thrive and become successful today, any? I believe not all project that appears to be scam ends up been scam because people suspect them to be

I don't think there are even any projects that didn't received a wrong accusations of being an scam. Though most of those accusations are true for projects in 2018 and 19.
The most funny accusation to remember for me is Ethereum. Because I was one of the people who claimed Ethereum to be a scam when it started. My understanding of Ethereum was also the reason why I was late on joining the Ethereum train.



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January 01, 2020, 03:10:01 PM
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There were projects in the past that were accused, they proved to be not but they were not scam. This isn't yet final.
We can not say they are successful now just because they have launched their product already, these projects can still end scam one day when the team can't release a new roadmap for them to achieve next. These projects needs a continuing dedication to serve for the new investors coming into the project and serve the users of the future.


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January 01, 2020, 03:14:39 PM
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I need lists of projects that were thought to be scam and faced many wrong accusations but in the end still thrive and become successful today, any? I believe not all project that appears to be scam ends up been scam because people suspect them to be

Guess you're looking for this to use it as a reference when a project is called a scam.

Well, pretty much all top altcoins were called scams in the past.  Bitcoin too was called a scam in its early days... today it's one of the most important cryptocurrency in the world.
 If you truely believe in your project, no amount of scam tag will make you abandon it except maybe death or being prevented from using Bitcoin


That's right but the fact is you can't promote a project that got accusations with proof by a Bitcointalk forum member! Many got red trust by participating in Zeux and Nexxus rewards bounty campaign! Where I myself made good profits from those coins. Though I already opted out from Nexxus Rewards project but I am still a holder of ZEUX coin!

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January 01, 2020, 03:23:04 PM
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I need lists of projects that were thought to be scam and faced many wrong accusations but in the end still thrive and become successful today, any? I believe not all project that appears to be scam ends up been scam because people suspect them to be
Scam project will always be scam project, moreover if they were use fake team/copy another whitepaper project in order to attract a lot of investors, it will be useless for them.

Why do you have thoughts like this? Have you ever promote a project that end up in scam because there is someone who cought it?
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January 01, 2020, 03:36:37 PM
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I once found someone accusing one of the exchange projects of scam just because the withdrawal at the exchange was problematic, even though the withdrawn balance did not reach $ 50 and the Exchange had already made an official announcement that there was indeed a problem for withdrawals and in the end the accusation was incorrect. That is indeed very ridiculous without strong evidence accusing the project concerned is a fraud.



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January 01, 2020, 03:44:42 PM
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How about miracle tele project? Many called it scam because they stop paying staking rewards but they never exit scam till now, i feel it's mismanage of fund that course the halt, now things are shaping up bit by bit
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January 01, 2020, 03:46:23 PM
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I need lists of projects that were thought to be scam and faced many wrong accusations but in the end still thrive and become successful today, any? I believe not all project that appears to be scam ends up been scam because people suspect them to be
I don't know of any such project. In my experience/participation whatever coin/project has been accused of scam turned out to be a scam and price of those tokens/coins has dumped to the ground.
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January 01, 2020, 03:55:51 PM
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There were projects in the past that were accused, they proved to be not but they were not scam. This isn't yet final.
We can not say they are successful now just because they have launched their product already, these projects can still end scam one day when the team can't release a new roadmap for them to achieve next. These projects needs a continuing dedication to serve for the new investors coming into the project and serve the users of the future.


There is a reason it was tagged scam, probably there's something that went wrong or misleading. There will be no smoke if there is no issue so there might be some info that makes it taggers as scam.  We can be wrong if they will answer and provide details on how they will handle the news of them.

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January 01, 2020, 03:57:15 PM
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Maybe the project was caught by scamer because of plagiarism and other photo fraud so that it is easily detected and can be archived on the Fraud Allegation board.
But what is difficult to detect in a fraudulent project is that when the project runs and gets funding from sales, the CEO takes investor money and run away this is unpredictable.

Of course you can't see devs running away beforehand, but at least those people can get caught if the are using their real identities. Investors money is of course gone when this happens but its way less riskier.

I am more afraid of the projects that blow their ico money on jetset lifestyle in a year.

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January 01, 2020, 04:05:44 PM
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I need lists of projects that were thought to be scam and faced many wrong accusations but in the end still thrive and become successful today, any? I believe not all project that appears to be scam ends up been scam because people suspect them to be
Not like this, but there are projects like DOGE created for jokes but later taken seriously, not proven to be backed up to fully like the USDT, and like Tron whose past is thought to be dark. Look at the IEO/ICO market, can you see how much investment is decreased? Now compare this situation with scam projects. While there are all sorts of opportunities in the market, who and why would they believe in the scam project again?
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January 01, 2020, 04:14:47 PM
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I need lists of projects that were thought to be scam and faced many wrong accusations but in the end still thrive and become successful today, any? I believe not all project that appears to be scam ends up been scam because people suspect them to be
Scam project will always be scam project, moreover if they were use fake team/copy another whitepaper project in order to attract a lot of investors, it will be useless for them.

Why do you have thoughts like this? Have you ever promote a project that end up in scam because there is someone who cought it?
He was feeling doubt about the fact not all of the projects that already accused are actually the scam project. Maybe lack of the update and transparency makes the investors are accusing it as a scam project. But investors are right in this case as the team must be transparent with them.

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January 01, 2020, 05:31:57 PM
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How about miracle tele project? Many called it scam because they stop paying staking rewards but they never exit scam till now, i feel it's mismanage of fund that course the halt, now things are shaping up bit by bit
Miricale tele is not a scam project, but simply idiotic project management at the initial stage and too much interest for token holders. they should have to pay money to the holders of coins only after they began to make a profit, but under their management, it turned into some kind of pyramidal scheme and the founders of the project sold it to other people who are now trying to fix something, but I think they will not do it


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January 01, 2020, 10:29:19 PM
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I need lists of projects that were thought to be scam and faced many wrong accusations but in the end still thrive and become successful today, any? I believe not all project that appears to be scam ends up been scam because people suspect them to be

Maybe you can start here: Scam Accusations.

But it might take a while because you need to go one by one about the projects being accused of. Of course, it's just an accusations and projects can defend themselves. But remember that there are projects as well that we can't detect to be a scam in the beginning, but in the end, turns out to be a fraud.

Maybe the project was caught by scamer because of plagiarism and other photo fraud so that it is easily detected and can be archived on the Fraud Allegation board.
But what is difficult to detect in a fraudulent project is that when the project runs and gets funding from sales, the CEO takes investor money and run away this is unpredictable.
of course it is very detrimental to big and small investors because fraudsters like that are big-time bastards but if the project is transparent and real then their enemy is the FBI who will move and will definitely be jailed, it is difficult if the project with anonymous identity

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January 01, 2020, 10:32:20 PM
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I need lists of projects that were thought to be scam and faced many wrong accusations but in the end still thrive and become successful today, any? I believe not all project that appears to be scam ends up been scam because people suspect them to be

I think it depends on the angle you choose to define the scenario from
In most cases, people call a certain project scam because their investments got rekt

And for startups, there can't be supposed scam. The scam accusation are always with proof
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January 02, 2020, 10:24:06 AM
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Almost every project in the Altcoin section (including ethereum, litcoin and ripple) was at one point rated as scam by certain individuals and skeptics. This is almost an integral part in the history of every project...
So it is important to make your own judgment and not blindly trust unknown people and unverified sources. Everyone acts on their own self-interests. Each action we take is done to benefit ourselves whether we realize it or not.


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January 02, 2020, 10:31:02 AM
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I need lists of projects that were thought to be scam and faced many wrong accusations but in the end still thrive and become successful today, any? I believe not all project that appears to be scam ends up been scam because people suspect them to be

I doubt that you'll be able to find any.

The actual scam accusations which have solid proof behind them generally don't get it wrong. Especially in the altcoin space where the people behind the majority of projects have questionable motives, their accuracies should not be doubted.

The bottom line is that you should NOT invest in any accused projects whatsoever. Even if the accusation turns out to be false, you stand to lose way more than you stand to gain 99% of the time, because of the negative publicity that will be received by the project that could hurt its development.

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January 02, 2020, 11:04:45 AM
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How about miracle tele project? Many called it scam because they stop paying staking rewards but they never exit scam till now, i feel it's mismanage of fund that course the halt, now things are shaping up bit by bit
Miricale tele is not a scam project, but simply idiotic project management at the initial stage and too much interest for token holders. they should have to pay money to the holders of coins only after they began to make a profit, but under their management, it turned into some kind of pyramidal scheme and the founders of the project sold it to other people who are now trying to fix something, but I think they will not do it
One way or the other, the project is a failure. If the founders lost trust in their project and scheme, I really wonder if recovering or improving it is possible for someone who does not even have any vision for it. In my honest opinion, it would be best to not invest everything into this project because there exist far better options than this one for sure. At most, a little portion can be invested to try it out.

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January 02, 2020, 12:56:19 PM
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I need lists of projects that were thought to be scam and faced many wrong accusations but in the end still thrive and become successful today, any? I believe not all project that appears to be scam ends up been scam because people suspect them to be
If there is a proof about the accusation it will be listed in the accusation thread, not sure about wrong accusation and there are hundreds of projects coming out on a daily basis and here if people have the time they will expose the lies. Not sure why you are looking for wrongly accused projects and if the team can explain all the doubts then they can clear themselves.
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January 02, 2020, 01:11:09 PM
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How about miracle tele project? Many called it scam because they stop paying staking rewards but they never exit scam till now, i feel it's mismanage of fund that course the halt, now things are shaping up bit by bit
And that's already confirmed as a scam project and you just need to visit its official site and it goes offline right now, i heard that if miracle tele has become an exit scam project since it was never giving any update to the investors.

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January 02, 2020, 01:14:02 PM
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Hey OP if you really need the list of those accused as scam project then you need a person who will compile that for you and it takes a lot of the to research those so best to pay them up for the service given and for sure you will get what you wanted, and if you just rely here maybe you will get a wrong information since sometimes some other user don't know the history and just talk nonsense things.

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