US President Donald Trump has threatened Iran

[EmmaLory]

Iran will be held fully responsible for lives lost or damage incurred at any of our facilities. They will pay a very BIG PRICE. This is not a Warning, it is a Threat.

Note Source From : https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1212121026072592384

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[TwitchySeal]

Iran will be held fully responsible for lives lost or damage incurred at any of our facilities. They will pay a very BIG PRICE. This is not a Warning, it is a Threat.

Note Source From : https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1212121026072592384

Not the response we were hoping for:

As Americans waited to see how the U.S. would respond to an Iranian-backed Iraqi militia’s embassy attack, Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei taunted President Trump on Twitter Wednesday — taking Trump on at his own game.

“That guy (President Trump) has tweeted that we see Iran responsible for the events in Baghdad & we will respond to Iran. 1st: You can’t do anything. 2nd: If you were logical — which you’re not — you’d see that your crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan… have made nations hate you, If the Islamic Republic decides to challenge & fight, it will do so unequivocally. We’re not after wars, but we strongly defend the Iranian nation’s interests, dignity, & glory. If anyone threatens that, we will unhesitatingly confront & strike them." Khamenei’s official English-language Twitter account posted.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/01/01/iran-supreme-leader-stokes-twitter-war-with-donald-trump/

Kim Jong Un also joined in taunting the United States a few days ago:

"we will never allow the impudent U.S. to abuse the DPRK-U.S. dialogue for meeting its sordid aim but will shift to a shocking actual action to make it pay for the pains sustained by our people so far and for the development so far restrained,”

I really hope the decisions Trump makes are based on the advice from top foreign policy experts and diplomats from the international community, or that at least someone convinces him that starting a war with Iran could hurt him politically.  Or at the very least not ignore the Joint Chiefs...

 looks like Trump managed to squeeze in 10 rounds of golf in the past 12 days: https://factba.se/topic/calendar, so the hands off approach is at least a possibility.  Hope it doesn't rain.

[Juggy777]

Iran will be held fully responsible for lives lost or damage incurred at any of our facilities. They will pay a very BIG PRICE. This is not a Warning, it is a Threat.

Note Source From : https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1212121026072592384

@EmmaLory I don’t think that US will attack Iran and Trump only gave this statement to assert his authority, and keep Iran guessing about his next move. If he really wanted to start a war with Iran then he could have done it in June 2019, when he had ordered for rockets to be fired on Iran’s soil but as we all know he didn’t execute that plan hence I believe there will be no war between the two nations.

Source:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/20/world/middleeast/iran-us-drone.html

[Naida_BR]

Now that the elections are coming at 2020 he is going to be more offensive to foreign countries.
The US politicians especially the Republicans are feeding their voters and try to convince them by threatening other countries around the world in order to show them dominance. Trump is doing this as well now.

[tsaroz]

Now that the elections are coming at 2020 he is going to be more offensive to foreign countries.
The US politicians especially the Republicans are feeding their voters and try to convince them by threatening other countries around the world in order to show them dominance. Trump is doing this as well now.

Blaming others and starting an unnecessary war is a tried and tested way to deviate the focus of nation out from the internal problems.
There's no any place for ethics or reason in the way a superpower bullies. Though this time, the US might be loosing Europe.

[KingScorpio]

Iran will be held fully responsible for lives lost or damage incurred at any of our facilities. They will pay a very BIG PRICE. This is not a Warning, it is a Threat.

Note Source From : https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1212121026072592384

third world is full of hateful racist and vandalizing savages, consider those people to be cooperative or reasonable and hard working was complete stupidity.

[squatz1]

Now that the elections are coming at 2020 he is going to be more offensive to foreign countries.
The US politicians especially the Republicans are feeding their voters and try to convince them by threatening other countries around the world in order to show them dominance. Trump is doing this as well now.

Blaming others and starting an unnecessary war is a tried and tested way to deviate the focus of nation out from the internal problems.
There's no any place for ethics or reason in the way a superpower bullies. Though this time, the US might be loosing Europe.

Blaming others? Trump is playing others because others are to blame. Iran had a milita to Iraq to start protests and to attack the American embassy there. All of this has been agitated by Iran.

Iran knows that it doesn't have negotiating chips like North Korea, they don't have their enriched Uranium anymore -- which was given up after the Iran deal. The only way they think they can get anything is by annoying the US here and there and hoping that at one point they give in and stop the sanctions.

They're literally using the playbook of North Korea, without nuclear weapons.

[TwitchySeal]

Iran knows that it doesn't have negotiating chips like North Korea, they don't have their enriched Uranium anymore -- which was given up after the Iran deal. The only way they think they can get anything is by annoying the US here and there and hoping that at one point they give in and stop the sanctions.

They're literally using the playbook of North Korea, without nuclear weapons.

Not an expert, but I've been under the impression things are pretty much opposite of what you say.  I think Iran would be a much bigger issue than NK.

Iran is in the middle east, and they are military allies with Russia, Iraq, and Syria.  They have a decent modern Airforce and Navy.  We already have a ton of troops exposed in the area dealing with other issues.  Going to war with them would likely mean years long war with a possibility of serious escalations with Russia and the best case scenario is it ends up the same way Iraq did.

We already have North Korea Surrounded and I don't think China or Russia would offer them much assistance.  (I could be wrong, and it would also depend how exactly things escalated)  If they are lucky enough to get a nuke up in the air (it would take some luck considering they are pretty limited on where they can launch them from, they'd probably be hit with a NATO Nuke from a Sub or Plane before their nuke even landed.  It wouldn't really be a war, just a bunch of innocent people quickly dying.

I could be totally wrong about a lot of that.  Just recalling some wikipedia rabbit holes I've been down.

[KingScorpio]

Now that the elections are coming at 2020 he is going to be more offensive to foreign countries.
The US politicians especially the Republicans are feeding their voters and try to convince them by threatening other countries around the world in order to show them dominance. Trump is doing this as well now.

so the us is a nation that hates foreigners?

[Spendulus]

Iran will be held fully responsible for lives lost or damage incurred at any of our facilities. They will pay a very BIG PRICE. This is not a Warning, it is a Threat.

Note Source From : https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1212121026072592384

Not the response we were hoping for:

As Americans waited to see how the U.S. would respond to an Iranian-backed Iraqi militia’s embassy attack, Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei taunted President Trump on Twitter Wednesday — taking Trump on at his own game.

“That guy (President Trump) has tweeted that we see Iran responsible for the events in Baghdad & we will respond to Iran. 1st: You can’t do anything. 2nd: If you were logical — which you’re not — you’d see that your crimes in Iraq, Afghanistan… have made nations hate you, If the Islamic Republic decides to challenge & fight, it will do so unequivocally. We’re not after wars, but we strongly defend the Iranian nation’s interests, dignity, & glory. If anyone threatens that, we will unhesitatingly confront & strike them." Khamenei’s official English-language Twitter account posted.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/01/01/iran-supreme-leader-stokes-twitter-war-with-donald-trump/

Kim Jong Un also joined in taunting the United States a few days ago:

"we will never allow the impudent U.S. to abuse the DPRK-U.S. dialogue for meeting its sordid aim but will shift to a shocking actual action to make it pay for the pains sustained by our people so far and for the development so far restrained,”

I really hope the decisions Trump makes are based on the advice from top foreign policy experts and diplomats from the international community, or that at least someone convinces him that starting a war with Iran could hurt him politically.  Or at the very least not ignore the Joint Chiefs...

 looks like Trump managed to squeeze in 10 rounds of golf in the past 12 days: https://factba.se/topic/calendar, so the hands off approach is at least a possibility.  Hope it doesn't rain.

Damn. Yeah if it rained, they'd have time to stop the golf and those various leaders could go into a twitfest and next thing you know, the bombs and missiles would be flying. Or I forget, do we just twit now or do we do bombs and missiles?

[Spendulus]

Now that the elections are coming at 2020 he is going to be more offensive to foreign countries.
The US politicians especially the Republicans are feeding their voters and try to convince them by threatening other countries around the world in order to show them dominance. Trump is doing this as well now.

so the us is a nation that hates foreigners?

I think Naida's comments are sort of "generally true." But I do not think they apply to Trump, who has defused numerous international conflicts and who is more oriented toward tough trade deals than any sort of military posturing.

[HereNow]

From what I know of Trump he would never go to war with Iran. He really does seem to make the connection that it results in loss of human life, and wants to avoid that. Trump might just be one of the nicest Presidents we've had.

[TwitchySeal]

Now that the elections are coming at 2020 he is going to be more offensive to foreign countries.
The US politicians especially the Republicans are feeding their voters and try to convince them by threatening other countries around the world in order to show them dominance. Trump is doing this as well now.

From what I know of Trump he would never go to war with Iran. He really does seem to make the connection that it results in loss of human life, and wants to avoid that. Trump might just be one of the nicest Presidents we've had.

Update: Confirmed Trump ordered the attack.  Then he tweeted a picture of the American flag.

Well someone just launched a few rockets into the Baghdad airport and killed 7 Iranian Military Officials...

Iran is blaming Trump.

Pentagon staying quiet.

Things are escalating.  

[coins4commies]

Now that the elections are coming at 2020 he is going to be more offensive to foreign countries.
The US politicians especially the Republicans are feeding their voters and try to convince them by threatening other countries around the world in order to show them dominance. Trump is doing this as well now.

Blaming others and starting an unnecessary war is a tried and tested way to deviate the focus of nation out from the internal problems.
There's no any place for ethics or reason in the way a superpower bullies. Though this time, the US might be loosing Europe.

Blaming others? Trump is playing others because others are to blame. Iran had a milita to Iraq to start protests and to attack the American embassy there. All of this has been agitated by Iran.

Iran knows that it doesn't have negotiating chips like North Korea, they don't have their enriched Uranium anymore -- which was given up after the Iran deal. The only way they think they can get anything is by annoying the US here and there and hoping that at one point they give in and stop the sanctions.

They're literally using the playbook of North Korea, without nuclear weapons.

LOL.  You just started paying attention?  Just going to ignore the US attacks on their bases? Bases that were backed by the Iraqi government....The protests were a response to those attacks.  The US has no excuse because we aren't supposed to even be there in the first place.  We are totally in the wrong and this latest event was an assassination.  A war crime.

[Gyfts]

I'm not sure what the alternative here was. Soleimani was a terrorist greater than Osama bin Laden who was involved in nearly 20% of the deaths during the Iraqi War. He has American blood on his hands and was continually coordinating terrorism attacks on U.S. troops. His killing was without a doubt the correct move. Was the alternative to let him continually kill Americans just because it isn't politically convenient with the left? Trump does not want a war with Iran and bringing up his tweets about Obama years ago is ignoring the context that Iran has gotten exponentially more aggressive which includes killing an innocent American civilian and storming one of the biggest U.S. embassy's in the world shouting "Death to America".

In addition to all of this, Iran is engaged in military drills with China and Russia, two of the most corrupt countries with nuclear arms. Iran aggression is not a good thing and for three corrupt countries to be engaged in military drills while one is actively killing Americans all but calls for US intervention.

[coins4commies]

Our troops were in the country illegally.  IF iran had troops fighting in the streets of Kansas, would we bad for killing them?

Thats a dumb question because Iran doesn't invade other countries. 

[mindrust]

There is nothing better than creating a war to increase the velocity of your currency. The timing is pretty amazing too. Right before the recession.

I see this as a desperate attempt to keep the US economy alive but I am not sure if it will succeed this time.

Maybe for a while but in the end USD 's days are numbered.

[TwitchySeal]

I'm not sure what the alternative here was. Soleimani was a terrorist greater than Osama bin Laden who was involved in nearly 20% of the deaths during the Iraqi War. He has American blood on his hands and was continually coordinating terrorism attacks on U.S. troops. His killing was without a doubt the correct move. Was the alternative to let him continually kill Americans just because it isn't politically convenient with the left? Trump does not want a war with Iran and bringing up his tweets about Obama years ago is ignoring the context that Iran has gotten exponentially more aggressive which includes killing an innocent American civilian and storming one of the biggest U.S. embassy's in the world shouting "Death to America".

In addition to all of this, Iran is engaged in military drills with China and Russia, two of the most corrupt countries with nuclear arms. Iran aggression is not a good thing and for three corrupt countries to be engaged in military drills while one is actively killing Americans all but calls for US intervention.

The guy was responsible for hundreds of American deaths over the past decade and obviously the fact he's dead is a victory.  But I think the way it went down, a bunch of shit talking followed up by a high level assassination is just going to result in Iran talking some shit and killing some Americans, and then boom, 10 more years of war in the middle east.

Hopefully I'm wrong, but I just don't see either side backing down at this point.  Pissing matches not diplomacy is in our future.

[PrimeNumber7]

Iran knows that it doesn't have negotiating chips like North Korea, they don't have their enriched Uranium anymore -- which was given up after the Iran deal. The only way they think they can get anything is by annoying the US here and there and hoping that at one point they give in and stop the sanctions.

They're literally using the playbook of North Korea, without nuclear weapons.

Not an expert, but I've been under the impression things are pretty much opposite of what you say.  I think Iran would be a much bigger issue than NK.

Iran is in the middle east, and they are military allies with Russia, Iraq, and Syria.  They have a decent modern Airforce and Navy.  We already have a ton of troops exposed in the area dealing with other issues.  Going to war with them would likely mean years long war with a possibility of serious escalations with Russia and the best case scenario is it ends up the same way Iraq did.

We already have North Korea Surrounded and I don't think China or Russia would offer them much assistance.  (I could be wrong, and it would also depend how exactly things escalated)  If they are lucky enough to get a nuke up in the air (it would take some luck considering they are pretty limited on where they can launch them from, they'd probably be hit with a NATO Nuke from a Sub or Plane before their nuke even landed.  It wouldn't really be a war, just a bunch of innocent people quickly dying.

I could be totally wrong about a lot of that.  Just recalling some wikipedia rabbit holes I've been down.

China backed NK in the Korean war, and would probably back NK if the US unilaterally used military force against NK. If NK were to get working nukes they can reliably launch several hundred miles, they could force the US (and allies) to remove their military presence from the region (they have allies to the North and West, and there is water to the East and South).

Iran has allies, but they are geographically separated from Iran, and Iran is surrounded by either water or its enemies. This makes it more difficult for Iran's allies to help it in a possible war that it's allies do not want to be directly involved in (these types of wars are generally fought via proxy).

Loosing the ability to have a military presence near the NK region in the Pacific could mean we cannot trade with countries in the region on favorable terms. If Iran were to force the US out of the region, the amount of trade affected would be much less.

[TECSHARE]

Iran knows that it doesn't have negotiating chips like North Korea, they don't have their enriched Uranium anymore -- which was given up after the Iran deal. The only way they think they can get anything is by annoying the US here and there and hoping that at one point they give in and stop the sanctions.

They're literally using the playbook of North Korea, without nuclear weapons.

Not an expert, but I've been under the impression things are pretty much opposite of what you say.  I think Iran would be a much bigger issue than NK.

Iran is in the middle east, and they are military allies with Russia, Iraq, and Syria.  They have a decent modern Airforce and Navy.  We already have a ton of troops exposed in the area dealing with other issues.  Going to war with them would likely mean years long war with a possibility of serious escalations with Russia and the best case scenario is it ends up the same way Iraq did.

We already have North Korea Surrounded and I don't think China or Russia would offer them much assistance.  (I could be wrong, and it would also depend how exactly things escalated)  If they are lucky enough to get a nuke up in the air (it would take some luck considering they are pretty limited on where they can launch them from, they'd probably be hit with a NATO Nuke from a Sub or Plane before their nuke even landed.  It wouldn't really be a war, just a bunch of innocent people quickly dying.

I could be totally wrong about a lot of that.  Just recalling some wikipedia rabbit holes I've been down.

China backed NK in the Korean war, and would probably back NK if the US unilaterally used military force against NK. If NK were to get working nukes they can reliably launch several hundred miles, they could force the US (and allies) to remove their military presence from the region (they have allies to the North and West, and there is water to the East and South).

Iran has allies, but they are geographically separated from Iran, and Iran is surrounded by either water or its enemies. This makes it more difficult for Iran's allies to help it in a possible war that it's allies do not want to be directly involved in (these types of wars are generally fought via proxy).

Loosing the ability to have a military presence near the NK region in the Pacific could mean we cannot trade with countries in the region on favorable terms. If Iran were to force the US out of the region, the amount of trade affected would be much less.

Iran definitely has a more advanced military, but again the implications of isolationist strategies against them seem to be currently effective. As you stated they can have limited economic impact on the region short of them engaging in some very large offensive maneuvers which would not sell well for them on the world stage.

As far as North Korea is concerned, they are essentially a satellite proxy state of China. North Korea is almost totally dependent on its relationship with China economically and in other areas. They kind of serve as their proxy attack dog. China doesn't want the US in the region any more than North Korea does, but ironically North Korea itself is the pretext for their presence there. At the end of the day though China has an exceptional amount of leverage over the actions of North Korea. That whole region accounts for a very large portion of the worlds economic activity. I think that in itself is an incentive for involved parties to treat carefully, but we will see.