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January 03, 2020, 09:58:06 PM |
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Hello ! I am trying to sell a poker bot for a specific crypto poker company ! the bot is profitable with proven 1.6-2.4% ROI depending the stakes but only in one specific format. I can answer all possible questions and even provide video of the bot playing, I set up the bot myself on your computer if you cant do it yourself but the procedure is really easy. The bot is only playing on 1 site , I am not willing to create different bot for other sites/formats. The available stakes start from 4$ and go up to 50$ but action on higher stakes is not great, thats why am willing to sell this at the very decent price of 250$ and I can give 3 licence for 600$ , just dont put them play vs each other cause then rake is obviously going to kill you. I am not looking to sell more than 5 licences.
Pm me for extra info or ask anything you want here if you are interested !
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January 04, 2020, 10:22:21 AM |
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So, you just create bitcointalk account for sell your so called bot? Because you joined this forum yesterday (3rd January 2020), and you made the post same date. Why you didn't bothered to create post with your original account if your claim is really valid? On the other hand, why need to sell since you can make money by using your own bot. If I were you, I wouldn't share it with anyone. I were sold my house and play and rebuy my house. So why not you? I set up the bot myself on your computer if you cant do it yourself but the procedure is really easy.
Most concerning subjects, I think you are talking you will set bot by using screen share. It's too dangerous step for buyer. Although I believe no one will fall in your trap but everyone should be careful. Don't be much greedy and don't get scammed. By the way, @OP are you agree to test bot with any trusted user (except me)? You have to provide bot and money for play. If your bot work fine then likely lots of people will buy it.
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cryptopoker2020 (OP)
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January 04, 2020, 12:37:19 PM |
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So, you just create bitcointalk account for sell your so called bot? Because you joined this forum yesterday (3rd January 2020), and you made the post same date. Why you didn't bothered to create post with your original account if your claim is really valid? On the other hand, why need to sell since you can make money by using your own bot. If I were you, I wouldn't share it with anyone. I were sold my house and play and rebuy my house. So why not you? I set up the bot myself on your computer if you cant do it yourself but the procedure is really easy.
Most concerning subjects, I think you are talking you will set bot by using screen share. It's too dangerous step for buyer. Although I believe no one will fall in your trap but everyone should be careful. Don't be much greedy and don't get scammed. By the way, @OP are you agree to test bot with any trusted user (except me)? You have to provide bot and money for play. If your bot work fine then likely lots of people will buy it. These all are very valid questions and I was expecting them, I understand why this looks shady but I have all the proof/answers needed. So let me answer to your points 1 by 1. So the first answer is the simpliest one, I didnt not have an account here before and I neither knew if selling such a software here is allowed. I got the impression that this would be okay from my google-searches when I was trying to find places that selling poker bot is allowed. I am still searching for marketplaces (like this one) where I can promote/sell my bot but I am a poker guy not a crypto guy so I am not that involved in forums/communities focused on crypto or whateverelse than poker. If you know other similar to this places where posting an ad for a poker bot is fine please let me know. About the setup of the bot its basically really really simple (especially if you done this before) but if someone is not able/willing to place couple of folders at the correct place then I can provide info/support by chat or even by call, it usually takes less than 10 minutes (btw it only runs on windows), I get this looks weird but I dont want the user to think this bot is something super complex to have/run/install so I guarantee that I can help the procedure if needed. I ll skip the "why dont you sell your house question" for last as that's the most important one in my opinion. So as I said this bot is a very specific/simple bot (that's also why its cheap). It only works on a specific crypto poker platform on a specific format and the nature of that format dictates very small ROIs% (depending the stakes and the level of the opponents), the reason of that is because the format is extremely simple offering the player only 2 options preflop "going all in" or "fold" which on one hand makes the achievable ROI% not exceeding 2.5% at best but on the other hand it makes it very simple for a guy to plug in completely unexploitable ranges (Nash) and let the machine do the work (which is what we did). That being said the bot is going to be super +EV investment but the hands needed to be played in order to start building a steady income and proving this ~2% ROI cannot be played in a day and also the variance is big (because of the small winrate). I feel financially comfortable to let the bot play stakes up to 5-10$ but I cant really afford a downswing on stakes of 50-100$ cause if I lose 100 BIs there I will indeed need to sell my house . Another reason I want to sell the bot is that this company has not convinced me about their longterm sucess is just a stupid site full of crypto-fish that might die in the next 12 months, if for example I had a bot that was beating lets say spin n goes on pokerstars for like 2% ROI i would never sell it or if I did I would sell it like 20k because of "what you earlier said" but in this shitty company where the future is so unstable I d prefer to cash in some $$$ now that the bot is actually able to run rather than wait to accumulate slowly for the next 5-6 months (which is something I will also do btw). On top of that I also have a "rakeback" deal with that company so in case the user creates an account there via my link he will get rakeback up to 40% (this rakeback gets instantly sent to my account and I can distribute it as I wish (so part of the deal is that the player is going to get 100% of his rakeback till he gets back the money he paid me for the bot just as an extra insentive). So I never claimed I have a bot that can earn like 1000$ per day because the traffic is just not there but with proper bankroll managment you can safely assume you are beating the game for 1-2% ROI. As an act of good will I can give the bot to a RESPECTED MEMBER OF THIS COMMUNITY FOR FREE (as long as he registers through my link) and have him cross-checking everything I said. I would be happy to answer more questions if you have any. Thank you for your suggestions and your well-put questions/notices.
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January 05, 2020, 04:58:54 PM |
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By the way, @OP are you agree to test bot with any trusted user (except me)? You have to provide bot and money for play. If your bot work fine then likely lots of people will buy it.
sorry I havent seen that you added that by the time I responded, YES i would LOVE that actually ! seems like a great idea to make everyone happy. Just get me someone "trusted" and I can do it any time ! be my guest !
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January 05, 2020, 05:08:48 PM |
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There are few questions which you should have answered in the OP. Hello ! I am trying to sell a poker bot for a specific crypto poker company ! Which Poker company is that ? I can answer all possible questions and even provide video of the bot playing Please make the video and share with us The bot is only playing on 1 site , I am not willing to create different bot for other sites/formats. Site Name please ? I am not looking to sell more than 5 licences.
What's the reason for that ? If there are more buyers then ?
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January 05, 2020, 05:41:33 PM |
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Much better to tell us which poker site you are talking about so that we know if it is a well-known site or if it is a scam website.
And how about if you use the bot in live poker? Or it is just for virtual poker?
It's hard to trust any newbie here on the forum because most of the newbies here are scam but if you can give us a trial or better add trial offer in your bot so that they can test if your bot is working or not. then build your trust here so that they can trust you.
Without any of these, you will fail to sell this kind of bot script to anyone here they are smart as you think.
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January 05, 2020, 05:58:34 PM |
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well I had my reasons for not willing to reveal the name of the platform/site but I get this just makes the things more shady, am an inexperienced seller and am not a company, I just happened to see this opportunity and seize it faster than others. so the name of the platform is CoinPoker and the format is a Push or Fold 4max cash game with 8 blinds cap. Regs just stop playing vs each-other when they realize the other player is playing nash ranges but fish just dont care and they just waste their money for a quick gamble. Thats also the reason I wouldnt like to sell this to more than 5 people because I just dont know if there is enough room for everyone in this small/shitty platform (maybe later there is). Of course the platform is shitty but thats why you can create a profitable bot so easily, it would not be possible to do so in other big companies or in complex games unless you invest hundrents of hours of work + a bounch of thousand dollars into the development. Thats not the case here, its a fast money grab that no-one knows how much will last, thats why I am in rush to sell and cash in some $$ right now than wait to build up the roll by playing 8-10 hours per day. That being said this company also offer tourneys and cash games that often overlay and generally are filled with crypto-fish but that has nothing to do with this bot. The reason I dont want to make a video is because i dont want to get my account fucked up on public, if someone "respected" in this forum wants to put it on test I have no problems in showing the bot play from his account. If I was a scammer I would advertise 15% ROI and 10000$ per day or something, I am not, the impression I make though is the one you described and I completely understand where you are coming from.
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January 05, 2020, 06:29:37 PM |
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By the way, @OP are you agree to test bot with any trusted user (except me)? You have to provide bot and money for play. If your bot work fine then likely lots of people will buy it.
sorry I havent seen that you added that by the time I responded, YES i would LOVE that actually ! seems like a great idea to make everyone happy. Just get me someone "trusted" and I can do it any time ! be my guest ! You needed trusted person right but any update about it?. I agree with this solution for the buyers to know that your bot really works and poker players could earn profit and less time consuming. Can you tell us more about the bot like it's feature or what other things it could do for poker games?. Info is much important.
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January 05, 2020, 06:32:12 PM |
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well its pretty simple, BOT DOES NOTHING ELSE. It is programmed to play perfect 4-handed nash ranges after you manually sit it in a table. User could also manually adjust the given ranges but I would not advise to do so. It can NOT be used on other platforms/sites neither on a different format on CoinPoker.
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January 05, 2020, 07:45:09 PM |
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Why is it only for CoinPoker? It's not a popular website... Perhaps this is exactly what makes the bot profitable, though, because it exploits the problem that exists on that website, but this is quite unethical. And as for making a universal bot that systematically wins at poker, I think the technologies are far behind on that for now... So if the bot exploits the bug, it's unethical, and if it doesn't, it's probably ineffective. Moreover, op, if you are aware of this yourself, you should've mentioned that using a bot is strictly prohibited by Coinpoker, so a person who'd buy the bot is taking the risk of being caught and not being able to withdraw profits because of cheating. Here are the Terms of Use of this website, and I quote: The use of artificial intelligence including, without limitation, "robots" (“Bots”) is strictly forbidden in connection with the CoinPoker Services. All actions taken in relation to CoinPoker Services by a User must be executed personally by players through the user interface accessible by use of the Software, and without the assistance of any form of artificial intelligence.
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January 05, 2020, 08:08:55 PM |
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Why is it only for CoinPoker? It's not a popular website... Perhaps this is exactly what makes the bot profitable, though, because it exploits the problem that exists on that website, but this is quite unethical. And as for making a universal bot that systematically wins at poker, I think the technologies are far behind on that for now... So if the bot exploits the bug, it's unethical, and if it doesn't, it's probably ineffective. Moreover, op, if you are aware of this yourself, you should've mentioned that using a bot is strictly prohibited by Coinpoker, so a person who'd buy the bot is taking the risk of being caught and not being able to withdraw profits because of cheating. Here are the Terms of Use of this website, and I quote: The use of artificial intelligence including, without limitation, "robots" (“Bots”) is strictly forbidden in connection with the CoinPoker Services. All actions taken in relation to CoinPoker Services by a User must be executed personally by players through the user interface accessible by use of the Software, and without the assistance of any form of artificial intelligence.
its only for coinpoker because it was designed to work on coinpoker, I guess that if there is a similar format somewhere and someone is able to edit the graphics and the ranges and whatever else is needed it could work elsewhere but the only thing I can guarantee is it is currently working on that 1 company, I havent searched the terms and conditions but most online sites have similar policies the problem is that only a few actually care about them and have systems to defend against bots and it seems coin poker is not one of them because I didnt do anything to hide the .exe while playing. In other sites that would be an instant ban even before logging in.
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January 07, 2020, 12:41:45 AM |
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that a bullshit , u know what ? what kind of poker with under 10% profit ? even when i play with tequila besides me, i still make x3 or x5 . Also , what a sites u prefered to using your bots ? i am curious.
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January 07, 2020, 01:26:54 AM |
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I really don't know lot of bot project are easy to multiply. It is an gaming and gambling industry so player will play to the game that they already know how to play and know how to win with their own strategies. I think you should think to launch another project that gamers will really appreciate your product and services.
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January 07, 2020, 04:59:04 AM |
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My questions is does using that bot will not against casinos terms and service because as far i know playing using bot for particular casinos isn't allowed and i think besides luck to playing poker required good skill and good mentally to facing unpredictable opponents and does your bot was ready to anticipate this
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January 07, 2020, 05:01:30 AM |
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Some bots can withdraw the users' balance to the hacker addy, be careful if any of you are thinking seriously about testing this bot.
I'm not saying OP has an infected bot, it would be nice if he can share the code with us.
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January 07, 2020, 05:46:24 AM |
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My questions is does using that bot will not against casinos terms and service because as far i know playing using bot for particular casinos isn't allowed and i think besides luck to playing poker required good skill and good mentally to facing unpredictable opponents and does your bot was ready to anticipate this
that's what I was surprisingly, poker is a game using strategy, how can they fight humans? I'm very curious about the bot, maybe I can try a trial if it's real or something.
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January 07, 2020, 06:18:19 AM |
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Guys, just do not do it,,, even if it works, the fact that it is mentioned here means the site will probably look for people using it and I am sure they can find it. Is it worth paying money for a software that will get you caught and that will get your account suspended and money forfeited? Of course not. If player can get steady ROI he will not be selling it, plain and simple. that a bullshit , u know what ? what kind of poker with under 10% profit ? even when i play with tequila besides me, i still make x3 or x5 . Also , what a sites u prefered to using your bots ? i am curious.
He already said it if you actually read the thread. Just one site if you actually read the OP.
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January 07, 2020, 08:23:24 AM |
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Does your bots take into consideration your opponents stats , at least the basic ones like VPIP PFR 3BET% etc, as hands played against those specific opponents accumulate?
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January 07, 2020, 09:55:07 AM |
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My questions is does using that bot will not against casinos terms and service because as far i know playing using bot for particular casinos isn't allowed and i think besides luck to playing poker required good skill and good mentally to facing unpredictable opponents and does your bot was ready to anticipate this
that's what I was surprisingly, poker is a game using strategy, how can they fight humans? I'm very curious about the bot, maybe I can try a trial if it's real or something. No wonder it will not sell here since the poker game cannot be manipulated nor been predictable and how on earth he can gather those while we know the fact that the given cards are random and this game you will win if your skill set is high and luck is on your side. And I'm not curious if this one is true.
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January 07, 2020, 10:03:14 AM |
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If you genuinely have an automated poker bot that can secure up to 2.4% profit (per week?), then why not record a short video of it in operation? Have it run over an hour starting at midnight and show that it can successfully turn a profit.
Providing this video, I'm sure you would be able to sell dozens of licenses.
Similarly, such a bot is essentially a moneymaking machine, why on earth would you sell something like this and increase competition for yourself?
Lastly, $250 each and you're only selling a total of 6 licenses (for a total of $1500)... You're going to sell practically an infinite money bot that was likely incredibly difficult to develop for a total of $1,500? YEAH RIGHT!
Avoid this at ALL COSTS unless he provides proof guys.
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