WW3 - Are we all gonna die?

[VasilyS]

Iran doesn't have a single ally ready to officially support it in a military confrontation with the United States. This means that Iran is doomed to defeat, but what will be the path? Now the ball is on the field of Americans. If they strike back, then a regional war is inevitable, if they refrain from direct aggression, then the possibility of de-escalation will continue.

[Betwrong]

Read about the previous world wars, WW1 and WW2. They were between coalitions, more or less equal in strength. Now imagine Iran fights with all Western world. They know very well they are going to lose pretty quickly. And forget about China and Russia taking their side. The children of the top politicians from there are living in the West, so they won't bomb their own kids.

I actually don't see anyone siding with Iran against the USA and it's allies especially now that they have the backings of NATO as well and also let's consider that Soleimani wasn't really a saint at all, He is a very bad man who did horrific things no country in their right mind will ally themselves to Iran because of his assassination.

I personally absolutely agree with you, but politics is a dirty game. Anti-Western governments would be more than happy to side with Iran, and defeat the USA and its allies, no matter how bad Soleimani really was, but it's obvious even to them that they are going to fail in this enterprise. And I think this realization of the imminent defeat is what constrains them more than all other things.

[johhnyUA]

And forget about China and Russia taking their side. The children of the top politicians from there are living in the West, so they won't bomb their own kids.

Excellent words! It's funny to see how russian "president" (in fact - german spy and actor) showing cartoons about bombing Florida, while vice president of russian rocket company "Pocкocмoc" bought some new villa in Florida last year.

Or if something happens, russian politics runs to London, to headquarter of "Evil NATO". Daughter of Dmitry Peskov living in France and daughter of Lavrov living in London. Son of Dmitry Medvedev has USA citizenship.

Also, Russia has GDP like 1.5 billions of usd while America has 19 billions. Russia can fight only in proxy wars, like in Ukraine.

[TheCoinGrabber]

Why so serious? We're not ALL gonna die. Maybe just some of us. Specifically the poorer ones, we're the one that are used as cannon fodder.  

I just hope it don't spill over into Asia unlike the last world war though that's unlikely coz if this explode into a world war, China will not let this slip without them gaining anything.

[TECSHARE]

I have bad news for you. Each and every one of us is going to die.

[Betwrong]

And forget about China and Russia taking their side. The children of the top politicians from there are living in the West, so they won't bomb their own kids.

Excellent words! It's funny to see how russian "president" (in fact - german spy and actor) showing cartoons about bombing Florida, while vice president of russian rocket company "Pocкocмoc" bought some new villa in Florida last year.

Or if something happens, russian politics runs to London, to headquarter of "Evil NATO". Daughter of Dmitry Peskov living in France and daughter of Lavrov living in London. Son of Dmitry Medvedev has USA citizenship.

Also, Russia has GDP like 1.5 billions of usd while America has 19 billions. Russia can fight only in proxy wars, like in Ukraine.

I agree with you regarding hypocrisy of the top Russian politicians, and that Russia is no match to the US in military strength, because Russia simply can't afford spending that much on weapons

And I just want to add that not only Russia, but no one, except for Kim Jong-un, maybe, wants a big war nowadays. Everything got intertwined so much that there will be no winners in the WW3, if it happens, there will be only losers.

[tvbcof]

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And I just want to add that not only Russia, but no one, except for Kim Jong-un, maybe, wants a big war nowadays. Everything got intertwined so much that there will be no winners in the WW3, if it happens, there will be only losers.

The U.S. must be pulled from the top of the pile if someone else is to take over.  WW-III would accomplish this by my estimation.  The pay-off for the next top dog will take a while but eventually it would be worth it (we think.)  The U.S.'s 'investment' in WW-II was similar and the pay-off was huge.  But nothing lasts forever.

For clever people who take great pride in their abilities at deception, using the U.S. to destroy the U.S. (thus vacating the top slot for themselves to take over), would, I admit, be a fairly impressive magic trick.  And one which, in retrospect, has been decades in the making.

[inanilujimi]

It's terrible to see the title of the thread that you make, even if there is no war we will experience death. Apart from the war between Iran and the US in my opinion will not trigger the chain you are talking about.
So many people refuse whether one person's voice can trigger everything, I don't think so.

[Mometaskers]

If there's WW3 then yes, not all but plenty. It's only pretty much the Americas that escaped the devastation of WW2, WW3 would be on a much larger scale. So it doesn't hurt to prepare. Set up your network, stockpile your essentials and hope for the best.

Also, Russia has GDP like 1.5 billions of usd while America has 19 billions. Russia can fight only in proxy wars, like in Ukraine.

Right now I think China is the only real threat to the US but China wouldn't yet dare to directly confront it. After all the US is still its largest customer. So it might resort to proxy wars like Russia but for a different reason.

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And I just want to add that not only Russia, but no one, except for Kim Jong-un, maybe, wants a big war nowadays. Everything got intertwined so much that there will be no winners in the WW3, if it happens, there will be only losers.

The U.S. must be pulled from the top of the pile if someone else is to take over.  WW-III would accomplish this by my estimation.  The pay-off for the next top dog will take a while but eventually it would be worth it (we think.)  The U.S.'s 'investment' in WW-II was similar and the pay-off was huge.  But nothing lasts forever.

For clever people who take great pride in their abilities at deception, using the U.S. to destroy the U.S. (thus vacating the top slot for themselves to take over), would, I admit, be a fairly impressive magic trick.  And one which, in retrospect, has been decades in the making.

Would be unsurprising. There was even a video of Soros himself talking about "moving" the economic engine to China. Banksters and the financial elite are pretty much the only ones that never lose in wars. Have the least damaged country "finance" the rebuilding a la Marshall Plan, profit.

[msarro]

Luckily chances of big conflict b/w usa and iran are getting lesser and lesser. Shooting down of Ukraine plane is putting a question mark on Iran military capability. Its in best of Iran and its neighboring countries interest that there shouldn't be any war. Iran will be just rubble in case of war with usa.

[johhnyUA]

Russia will end it days as a "threat" (even as a small threat) to USA after 2023. In 2023, soviet heavy nuclear missiles SS-18 Satan will be outdated and withdrawn from service. In soviet plans missiles should be withdrawn in 2008-2010, but because Russia don't have any resources to create something like that (even in few  numbers) missiles is still on their "watch" up to 2023.  

Also I doubt about China. Of course, it has strong economic, but it's army is far from ideal. But we can see how for example Japan is militarized in few decades. And how fast! (Japan builds destroyer ship just in three years from start to full readiness!)

[coolcoinz]

Russia will end it days as a "threat" (even as a small threat) to USA after 2023. In 2023, soviet heavy nuclear missiles SS-18 Satan will be outdated and withdrawn from service. In soviet plans missiles should be withdrawn in 2008-2010, but because Russia don't have any resources to create something like that (even in few  numbers) missiles is still on their "watch" up to 2023.  

This is what comes to my mind when somebody talks about Russian missiles.



I also remember reading an article about the state of Russian military installations built by the soviets. Some of them weren't maintained for over 30 years and got so rusty that silo doors wouldn't open when they finally came to check them out. If there was a nuclear war between the US and Russia in the early 90s probably half of them Russian stuff wouldn't be able to reach their targets.

[johhnyUA]

I also remember reading an article about the state of Russian military installations built by the soviets. Some of them weren't maintained for over 30 years and got so rusty that silo doors wouldn't open when they finally came to check them out. If there was a nuclear war between the US and Russia in the early 90s probably half of them Russian stuff wouldn't be able to reach their targets.

In early 90s, SS-18 was enough new, because R-36M2 Voevoda were implemented in 1988 in service.  There were created only 40 rockets of Voevoda modification. It was enough powerful weapon, even one has 10 warheads.

But of course, after 30 years in service and 5 years without proper maintance (from 2014 the creator of rockets - Yuzhmash stopped his maintance and services for Russia because of it's aggression on Ukraine) it's mostly myth and real danger.

And Russia doesn't have any new inventions, except those like in your gif  

[Betwrong]

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And I just want to add that not only Russia, but no one, except for Kim Jong-un, maybe, wants a big war nowadays. Everything got intertwined so much that there will be no winners in the WW3, if it happens, there will be only losers.

The U.S. must be pulled from the top of the pile if someone else is to take over.  WW-III would accomplish this by my estimation.  The pay-off for the next top dog will take a while but eventually it would be worth it (we think.)  ~

Yeah, it would be "worth it" exactly like in the video you provided a link to. Hundreds of millions of people would die for nothing, because it is very likely that another "top dog" is going to be worse than the previous one.

People often criticize the US, forgetting that all the dominant empires from the past were acting much worse in regards to the basic rights of their own citizens, and especially of the outlanders.

[allthingsluxury]

Very, very unlikely. Iran is not going to start WW3, however, it could have a massive short to medium term rippling effect across the region and on the price of oil, thus raising prices across the board. This obviously is not good, even if it does not mean WW3.

[GideonGono]

Very, very unlikely. Iran is not going to start WW3, however, it could have a massive short to medium term rippling effect across the region and on the price of oil, thus raising prices across the board. This obviously is not good, even if it does not mean WW3.

But by what happen for now, this was an attempt for the world war. By the world, we can't say on what the Iran plan and goals because everything would affect by that specially on the resources they bring to us so how was it? What if they do much more?

[yslyv]

What are the chances of the drone strike in Iran starting a chain of reactions that leads to another World War? I know that political relations are in general always tense, so will the drone strike catalyse another war to come?

Probably most of the human being are going to die in a possible world war 3.

As Albert Einstein said: " “I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”

[kro55]

What are the chances of the drone strike in Iran starting a chain of reactions that leads to another World War? I know that political relations are in general always tense, so will the drone strike catalyse another war to come?

Probably most of the human being are going to die in a possible world war 3.

As Albert Einstein said: " “I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”

I don't think we can afford any World War now. Every country is equipped with deadly weapons that can kill hundred of thousands people in just blink of an eye. There wont be any WW-4, since the life on earth will cease if we have WW-3. Lets try to establish peace.

[Sadlife]

Probably not because capitalist only wants profit from wars as they "Wars are not meant to end, it is meant to be continuous" the oligarchs doesn't want for their world to rule to be ashes and stones that's why they've stopped before it gets any worse. They only want to destabilize the economy of Iran, so they could take back the lead in oil production.

[djsugar]

What are the chances of the drone strike in Iran starting a chain of reactions that leads to another World War? I know that political relations are in general always tense, so will the drone strike catalyse another war to come?

The nations are too powerful and equipped with warheads capable of destroying the race of species. No one would want that and even if some rebel nations go in that direction , they will be stopped by NATO and UNs. War these days are more digital in nature , and all I see is sanctions getting strict between the nations at war. Trade war is the new preferred war as it does not include mass killing. Also , Iran is well aware of the fact that it can not challenge USA. All I see are small hits and proxy wars happening.