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January 08, 2020, 03:14:05 AM
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Iran has launched missiles at the Iraqi bases where US forces are staying and this act is an open declaration of war in my opinion, though Iran has not termed it as a war yet but they’re openly challenging US into starting one.

I feel this move is really stupid because they haven’t planned it through in their emotions they have given Trump a reason why he should immediately declare war on them, which will not only crush their economy but will effect entire world’s economy too.

It’s pertinent to note that Trump has tweeted a very casual tweet and I’m surprised about his casual language, he’s said he’ll give a statement in the morning and I’m eagerly waiting for it because it’ll give us major insights about his next plan of action.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/07/politics/rockets-us-airbase-iraq/index.html

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1214739853025394693?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Trump spent a fair bit of 'quality time' with Epstein and Maxwell.  He'll do whatever the fuck Netinyahoo tells him to do.  Always has, and there is no reason to believe that the future will be any different.

The U.S. must fall be for the plan to be fulfilled.  Ben-Gurion, first prime minister of Israel, (among many others) outlined it way back in the 1960's

from:  https://www.jta.org/1962/01/04/archive/ben-gurion-foresees-gradual-democratization-of-the-soviet-union

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Gradual democratization of the Soviet Union and the abolition of wars by 1987 is predicted by Israel Premier David Ben-Gurion in a statement published in the current issue of Look magazine which carries a number of interviews on the world outlook 25 years from now. Mr. Ben-Gurion’s statement reads:

“The image of the world in 1987 as traced in my imagination: The Cold War will be a thing of the past. Internal pressure of the constantly growing intelligentsia in Russia for more freedom and the pressure of the masses for raising their living standards may lead to a gradual democratization of the Soviet Union. On the other hand, the increasing influence of the workers and farmers, and the rising political importance of men of science, may transform the United States into a welfare state with a planned economy.

“Western and Eastern Europe will become a federation of autonomous states having a Socialist and democratic regime. With the exception of the USSR as a federated Eurasian state, ail other continents will become united in a world alliance, at whose disposal will be an international police force. All armies will be abolished, and there will be no more wars.

In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a truly United Nations) will build a Shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the seat of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah. Higher education will be the right of every person in the world. A pill to prevent pregnancy will slow down the explosive natural increase in China and India, And by 1987, the average life-span of man will reach 100 years.”

WW-III results in the end of the U.S., and the stage has been feverishly set for a civil war in that country.  Hopefully just a little bit to feverishly in order to meet the 'time-table' and they left some loose ends.  We'll see.  I predict that the U.S. loses a war with Iran (and company.)  I suggest that that is exactly the idea.  I propose that Trump was installed to be the guy who set's off the charge which implodes the country because he is considered reliable enough to do it.


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January 08, 2020, 03:49:57 AM
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Just to further update this, it's been reported by most news sources that there were no causalities in the attack. Iran has also just announced, through their foreign minister, that they are not seeking escalation of war, and that their strikes were done in response to the killing of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani. They've made it seem very diplomatic, even the attack -- as they cited Article 51 of the UN charter stating that they used self defense and that is all they'll be doing.

Trump will be making a statement in the morning, though on his twitter he's already stated that "ALL IS WELL"

Trump is going to want to calm the markets, a war isn't going to be popular with the voters. Yet again, we'll see where this takes us.

Source:

NY TIMES - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/trump-iran.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
WSJ - https://www.wsj.com/articles/stampede-at-funeral-procession-for-iranian-commander-kills-35-11578390888?mod=hp_lead_pos1




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January 08, 2020, 04:15:52 AM
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Just keep in mind in evaluating things, that the USA does not need Middle East oil anymore. Thanks to fracking, those days are over.

Because oil is a fungible resource, it is likely that no part of this fracas with affect oil prices.
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January 08, 2020, 04:21:22 AM
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Just keep in mind in evaluating things, that the USA does not need Middle East oil anymore. Thanks to fracking, those days are over.

Because oil is a fungible resource, it is likely that no part of this fracas with affect oil prices.

This isn't the case yet though. Even if the US is the worlds largest oil producer by one single nation, it PALES in comparison to the production of all of the OPEC nations (see here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPEC)

So even if the US is producing more oil then Saudi Arabia, or getting close to them -- that doesn't mean anything when you're talking about all of the oil by Middle Eastern countries (plus like Venezuela)




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January 08, 2020, 05:42:58 AM
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I need to get in touch with this "Iran", make sure it has the latest map.


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January 08, 2020, 05:54:30 AM
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Just keep in mind in evaluating things, that the USA does not need Middle East oil anymore. Thanks to fracking, those days are over.

Because oil is a fungible resource, it is likely that no part of this fracas with affect oil prices.

maybe they dont need oil, but OPEC oil sales MUST be in petrodollars. If not - bye bye USD

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January 08, 2020, 07:06:02 AM
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the "mistake" aka the armed attack was the US illegally assassinating a top Iranian general with a drone at time of peace without cause. and the self defence response was on the US airfield and destruction of the US aircraft and military equipment stored there that are used in such terrorist attacks.
that is the right of any nation that is a member of UN.
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.”

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January 08, 2020, 07:23:59 AM
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Just to further update this, it's been reported by most news sources that there were no causalities in the attack. Iran has also just announced, through their foreign minister, that they are not seeking escalation of war, and that their strikes were done in response to the killing of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani. They've made it seem very diplomatic, even the attack -- as they cited Article 51 of the UN charter stating that they used self defense and that is all they'll be doing.

Trump will be making a statement in the morning, though on his twitter he's already stated that "ALL IS WELL"

Trump is going to want to calm the markets, a war isn't going to be popular with the voters. Yet again, we'll see where this takes us.

Source:

NY TIMES - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/trump-iran.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
WSJ - https://www.wsj.com/articles/stampede-at-funeral-procession-for-iranian-commander-kills-35-11578390888?mod=hp_lead_pos1


This one seem more legitimate. Iran knows its military capability and its wise enough for Iran to stay away from USA else he will be completely  wiped out. Iran has already done a mistake by sending its serving general to iraq, its time for iran not to do further mistakes.

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January 08, 2020, 07:24:45 AM
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Just keep in mind in evaluating things, that the USA does not need Middle East oil anymore. Thanks to fracking, those days are over.

Because oil is a fungible resource, it is likely that no part of this fracas with affect oil prices.

It's more about the 'Greater Israel' project.  Always has been.  Secondarily (and relatedly), it's about have a private Rothschild central bank controlling the money supply in _every_ country.


maybe they dont need oil, but OPEC oil sales MUST be in petrodollars. If not - bye bye USD

And Hello Bitcoin!

As for the legendary 'petro-dollar' is a useful construct (especially since the U.S. is supplying the bullet stoppers for the Zionist's wars) and it has provided good service to date, but it's replaceable with various other instruments.  In fact it must be replaced at some point.  Maybe we are at that point?


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January 08, 2020, 07:31:35 AM
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Just to further update this, it's been reported by most news sources that there were no causalities in the attack. Iran has also just announced, through their foreign minister, that they are not seeking escalation of war, and that their strikes were done in response to the killing of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani. They've made it seem very diplomatic, even the attack -- as they cited Article 51 of the UN charter stating that they used self defense and that is all they'll be doing.

Trump will be making a statement in the morning, though on his twitter he's already stated that "ALL IS WELL"

Trump is going to want to calm the markets, a war isn't going to be popular with the voters. Yet again, we'll see where this takes us.

Source:

NY TIMES - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/trump-iran.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
WSJ - https://www.wsj.com/articles/stampede-at-funeral-procession-for-iranian-commander-kills-35-11578390888?mod=hp_lead_pos1


This one seem more legitimate. Iran knows its military capability and its wise enough for Iran to stay away from USA else he will be completely  wiped out. Iran has already done a mistake by sending its serving general to iraq, its time for iran not to do further mistakes.

Maybe some big country backing them to start the war against US which will hurt tremendously the economy of US. This might be the reason too on the recent price rally
of oil in the market. Iran known for having a deep hate to US for supporting the Israel. The decision of US President tomorrow will dictate the direction of this turmoil.
In my opinion, He will refrain in war and accept the minor retaliation of Iran for there lose. Surely if iran persist on there ambition, WW3 will ignite and I'm sure the world will
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Iran has launched missiles at the Iraqi bases where US forces are staying and this act is an open declaration of war in my opinion, though Iran has not termed it as a war yet but they’re openly challenging US into starting one.

Let me correct that for you:

The US has assassinated Iran's top general and this act is an open declaration of war in my opinion, though the US has not termed it as a war yet but they’re openly challenging Iran into starting one.

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With the Iranians attacks on the US Base in Iraq yielding no casualties, I don't think it's necessary for the USA to respond any further so that they can de-escalate the whole situation that is if the Iranians stop the whole attacks and I will reiterate no one will really side with Iran because they killed Soleimani since he was orchestrating the whole attacks.
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Iran has launched missiles at the Iraqi bases where US forces are staying and this act is an open declaration of war in my opinion, though Iran has not termed it as a war yet but they’re openly challenging US into starting one.

I feel this move is really stupid because they haven’t planned it through in their emotions they have given Trump a reason why he should immediately declare war on them, which will not only crush their economy but will effect entire world’s economy too.

It’s pertinent to note that Trump has tweeted a very casual tweet and I’m surprised about his casual language, he’s said he’ll give a statement in the morning and I’m eagerly waiting for it because it’ll give us major insights about his next plan of action.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/07/politics/rockets-us-airbase-iraq/index.html

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1214739853025394693?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet



Except the Iranian government release a statement that they are firing at the troops, then it cannot be regarded as that should the United States because of such an isolated event launched more weapons then its will be show of force. It could be interpreted as an act of a disgruntled fellow, it could also be a form of sabotage for all I care where someone of parties who stands to gain should war erupt are looking for series of ways to fast track their own bottom line. I am not saying its not a provocation but acting rashly is not what the world needs now. Peace is better than war and that is what the world needs right now.
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With the military bases missiled to shreds, considering Donald Trump's character, I don't think he is just going to stand aside and wait for it to flow under the bridge. U.S. Citizens should honestly prepare themselves for an upcoming war. The only people who are going to suffer are going to be random Iranian, Iraqis and US citizens while "big boys" throw shit at each other.

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Iran was the victim in all of this, for many years the middle east has been plague with US forces oppressing and destroying their homeland fighting over sand and oil that's how it all begun. So yeah the aggressor's are no other than US if they'd only minded their own business then things would be peaceful and we would be living our normal lives as today. Now everything may come to an end with this war that is about to come.

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I hope there will not be a war. In favor of this version is an unofficial information on the US proposal to Iran transmitted through Qatar speaks about the possibility of a limited local response as a response of Suleymani assassination. In addition, it is reported that the Iranians warned the Americans about the blow through the unofficial Qatari communication channel. This allows the Iranian leaders to save face and at the same time makes it possible to avoid or at least postpone the war.


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Iran was the victim in all of this, for many years the middle east has been plague with US forces oppressing and destroying their homeland fighting over sand and oil that's how it all begun. So yeah the aggressor's are no other than US if they'd only minded their own business then things would be peaceful and we would be living our normal lives as today. Now everything may come to an end with this war that is about to come.
Plus when US kills Iran Top General is the start of it, Iran threw missiles being their victim and knowing they might have allies to backup them if ever US declare war. Whoever the victim first, this war should not happen. It will cause alot of damage and casualties. There be in need for some middle man to prevail peace as for sure no one will want to be a loser. Let there be someone who will stop them from starting this war. Though it's predicted to happen, it's just too hard to think that many will be affected.

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January 08, 2020, 03:02:08 PM
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Iran has launched missiles at the Iraqi bases where US forces are staying and this act is an open declaration of war in my opinion, though Iran has not termed it as a war yet but they’re openly challenging US into starting one.

I feel this move is really stupid because they haven’t planned it through in their emotions they have given Trump a reason why he should immediately declare war on them, which will not only crush their economy but will effect entire world’s economy too.

It’s pertinent to note that Trump has tweeted a very casual tweet and I’m surprised about his casual language, he’s said he’ll give a statement in the morning and I’m eagerly waiting for it because it’ll give us major insights about his next plan of action.

Sources:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/07/politics/rockets-us-airbase-iraq/index.html

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1214739853025394693?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet



attacking us embasy was so stupid, everybody instantly knew after that, that iranian regime is imperialists and treaties with them are worthless

these damn idiots what where they thinking, usa was about to leave and focus on internal issues

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Indeed, it was a gutsy move. They are already experts at raiding embassies but imho they shouldn't have bragged about it online. And after that dude got killed they chose to escalate by firing those missiles.

I don't really know what's their game, if they really think they can take on America. I remember there's some conspiracy theory circulating that China and Russia would support an aggression by Iran and when conflict starts, they all gang up on an overstretched America. How likely would that be?
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