[POLL] Surely it's high-time for UID "Bitcoin SV" to be nuked?

[Timelord2o67]

Surely it's high-time for UID "Bitcoin SV" to be nuked.

[suchmoon]

What do you expect to happen when you create a poll about a sockpuppeting troll?

Nuking is a bit harsh, but removing the ridiculous flag spam would be nice.

[Timelord2067]

What do you expect to happen when you create a poll about a sockpuppeting troll?

Nuking is a bit harsh, but removing the ridiculous flag spam would be nice.

I can add further voting options but I feel the five cover the various scenarios available.


(and I wasn't paying attention earlier when I created the poll with my mobile alt).

[logfiles]

I think I will somehow agree with Suchmoon... removing the flag spam created by the chap and then warn them. But as you know most troll are always stubborn. The chances of them changing to become positive people after getting warned are usually very low. If they continued with the stupid behavior, then a ban would be more than welcome.

[Timelord2067]

I think I will somehow agree with Suchmoon... removing the flag spam created by the chap and then warn them. But as you know most troll are always stubborn. The chances of them changing to become positive people after getting warned are usually very low. If they continued with the stupid behavior, then a ban would be more than welcome.

You don't feel Nuking one will act as a deterrent to others?

[JeromeTash]

WTF?    
Does this Bitcoin SV guy have a life?



Nuke Nuke Nuke!!!!

A question, If an account is nuked, Do the feedback and flags left by the account get wiped out along?

[Timelord2o67]

WTF?    
Does this Bitcoin SV guy have a life?

Apparently not.

Nuke Nuke Nuke!!!!

A question, If an account is nuked, Do the feedback and flags left by the account get wiped out along?

That is the preferred option.

[eddie13]

Even if you ban him why do you want to delete all his posts? (nuke)
Don't you want their to be a record left of how stupid the account was?

It's just a troll..
Is he really that good of a troll? Ya'll can't handle it and need to nuke him?

It looks like the flag system is working perfectly to me.. Not a single one of his flags are supported..
Who does that make look bad? You or him (and from association BSV)?

I'll say it again..

You are all feeding the shit out of this troll...

In my opinion, this user is a POE Troll.. As in his actual intent is to do a disservice to BSV (the coin)..

Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture stating that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, it is impossible to create a parody of extreme views so obviously exaggerated that it cannot be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of the views being parodied.

In more layman's terms which I myself would understand better... If you wanted to make BSV and CSW look stupid, and the support thereof, what better way than to pose as a supporter and draw a lot of attention to yourself while acting like a complete imbecile and being as extreme as you can to discredit what you are pretending to support?

I have a hunch this user may in all reality be pro-BTC anti-BSV and is just playing this character to mock BSV and make BSV shills in general look as extreme and gullible as his own character is portraying to be..  


If my hunch is correct, he is very good at it and has most all of you duped..


I voted "No further action required" and to let him go on degrading the reputation of BSV and CSW, as I think he may very well intend..


Ban him for being a troll or whatever though.. No real argument against it from me.. Just say'n..

[Timelord2067]

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Each to their own and thanks for participating.  (I had actually considered that until the Flags started fluttering)

I hold no sway on the admin side of things here, but if they want the pulse of the forum regarding this user, then what better way than this poll?  (after all, people have voted, but not actually participated in the discussion). @theymos

[hacker1001101001]

Even if you ban him why do you want to delete all his posts? (nuke)
Don't you want their to be a record left of how stupid the account was?

Some members quotes and scrape/archive his posts, so there will be record if user "Bitcoin SV" (or any user) got nuked.

Still, there stupidity would not be that public and accessible as it is now. And what about freedom of speech ?

[NeuroticFish]

GP was not nuked, right? And I guess that's only one easy example.
What I mean is that some of the toxic users seem to get away no matter how much garbage they produce, no matter what we'd like or vote.

And yes, imho flag and trust abuse (usually for retaliatory reasons) should get the account nuked.

[Timelord2067]

ETFbitcoin & hacker1001101001  make very valid points, but don't forget not every country has a bill of rights or freedoms enshrined in constitutions.  That doesn't mean those countries are any more right or wrong than the ones with charters.

Someone such as LoyceV could possibly address the question of how many thousands of UID's have already been nuked and under what circumstances.

As with korner, Bitcoin SV's Flags are little more than slander and or defamation.  I was under the impression some flags (by others) have been removed in the past, however, a quick glance at the current flag list seems to indicate that only the first three test flags have been removed.

In the first ten hours the spread of votes is fairly constant (percentage wise) across all bar candidate/topic four on zero votes to warn only.

[nutildah]

GP was not nuked, right? And I guess that's only one easy example.
What I mean is that some of the toxic users seem to get away no matter how much garbage they produce, no matter what we'd like or vote.

The main difference between GP and Bitcoin SV is the Bitcoin SV account belongs to a banned troll named korner. He owns all of these accounts, several of which are banned:

korner                  banned
WEX-UNOFFICIAL  banned
wex.nz                  banned
Alex LZ Saver        banned
reckon                  banned
CKAMEP                banned
anna.mayzus         banned
btc-e.nz                banned
Kryptoart              
Anti Bitcoin          
Anti-Bitcoin           banned
Sara Parker          
ERC-721
tet8        
ERC-223               banned
Scamer  
Anti Scam             banned
Trollface               banned
Polizei                   banned
Skammer        
RACIB                   banned
Sorbent                banned
exp0it                  banned
Error13                 banned
Alter7                   banned
Alexey Vlasov
KraftsHerz
frnk
Kurabye
ttom777
mtgox.com
binance.com
Ethereum Classic
Bitcoin Gold
ne0n
Bitcoin Cash
Bitcoin SV
Sakasara
WORLD_EXCHANGE_SERVICES
wex.com
Alfabank
novacoin.org
Cause Rebecca         banned
infekted
Viva-E Official
Olga Buzova
STOP SCAM              banned
KOPHEP
Bordijo
VIVA-E
WEX-SCAM
Anti-DT Alliance
Virsec
Anti-Polizei
Alert!

Unlike some of his other accounts, he hasn't outright admitted he is Bitcoin SV, and there's no blockchain evidence to link him. Only the fact that all these accounts woke up on the same day to change their password, and his pattern of behavior fits the MO for a korner account (read the linked thread for more details).

I wouldn't mind if he were nuked, but he should definitely be banned for trolling and ban evasion.

I just don't know how to report his comments for ban evasion. They certainly are easier to report for trolling. Perhaps we should go that route.

[dzungmobile]

It is definitely not a nuke. Even game-protect has not been nuked or even permabanned from trolling, trust spams as well as flag spams.

[BrewMaster]

based on my observation, this forum's policy against trolls is neither banning nor nuking them since this is not the only troll that is active on bitcointalk and maybe not even the biggest one! sometimes the posts i report aren't even deleted let alone the entire history of the troll.
the only case that i have seen led to a ban was a severe case of someone spamming nonsense all over the forum specially in speculation board with his price guesses while trolling bitcoin and SegWit.

[NeuroticFish]

The main difference between GP and Bitcoin SV is the Bitcoin SV account belongs to a banned troll named korner. He owns all of these accounts, several of which are banned:

All right, then there are even more reasons for at least ban.
I still stick to my logic, repeated trust feedback and trust flag abuse should mean nuke. It's, imho, worse than plagiarism, for example.

[eddie13]

not every country has a bill of rights or freedoms enshrined in constitutions.  That doesn't mean those countries are any more right or wrong than the ones with charters.

All governments are wrong..
It just so happens that the US government is less wrong on most points when it comes to the question of individual liberty due to its founding principles, which could definitely still be improved upon atleast in terms of interpretation..

The least amount of intervention on a society by any "authority" the better IMO..

[Timelord2067]

not every country has a bill of rights or freedoms enshrined in constitutions.  That doesn't mean those countries are any more right or wrong than the ones with charters.

All governments are wrong..
It just so happens that the US government is less wrong on most points when it comes to the question of individual liberty due to its founding principles, which could definitely still be improved upon yet..

As Kirk said to Spock - "Let's aim for those last two percent" (Corbomite Manoeuvrer)

*edit* (eddie13 edited his post after I quoted it, hence the difference in quotes)

[SFR10]

Surely it's high-time for UID "Bitcoin SV" to be nuked.

Technically, he/she can't be nuked ^{[due to having a "Member" rank]} but might have a similar outcome to the following case ^{[with the addition of flags]}: Red trust spam from user tharani (48 times today)

A mod removed all red trust spam. Thanks mod.

A question, If an account is nuked, Do the feedback and flags left by the account get wiped out along?

In regards to sent feedback, it will remain ^{[most likely that's also the case with flags]}...
^{- LoyceV's suggestion in regards to that.}

Unlike some of his other accounts, he hasn't outright admitted he is Bitcoin SV, and there's no blockchain evidence to link him. Only the fact that all these accounts woke up on the same day to change their password, and his pattern of behavior fits the MO for a korner account (read the linked thread for more details).

That explains perfectly why no action has been taken towards this user.

[o_e_l_e_o]

If you can prove there is ban evasion, then sure, ban him.
If you can convince theymos to moderate the trust system, then sure, removing all his fake flags would be nice.
Otherwise, no intervention is needed, other than hitting the ignore button.

I absolutely don't agree with deleting posts or banning users because we don't like what they say. Although his views are obviously nonsense, as far as I can tell, he has kept his nonsense limited to a small handful of threads, mostly ones he has created. If you don't want to see his nonsense, just don't visit those threads. This is very different to our other infamous troll who derails any and every thread he visits.

As eddie13 had touched on, this user is rapidly becoming a great argument against BSV. Let him continue to make a fool of himself, CSW, and their trash coin.