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October 16, 2020, 01:09:39 AM
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Lomachencko, and 1, is that round 1 win like kO?

I think it's possible considering how Lopez camp are disrespecting the champ here,
Loma doesn't have the record for round 1 KO IIRC. He likes to destroy opponents' mentality first, like toying with them and forced them to retire. It's risky (based on record) if you want to bet on round 1 KO.

Quite risky indeed because Loma is a slow starter, that is why Lopez camp is urging their guy to catch Loma in the earlier round because the longer it gets it would be disaster for Lopez.

Here's my take, KO in the earlier round for Lopez and KO in the latter round for Loma, just don't know which particular round  Smiley.

BTW, hats off to Lopez Sr, he is a good promoter of the fight as he get into everyone's skin.

Would be nice to bet on Lopez early here, the odds is quite attractive and anything could happen as Lopez though less experience and younger, but this guy has a great potential with some heavy KO rate, 12/15 KO rate, I think this guy is really dangerous.

Yes, Lopez is the underdog here so the odds are really quite attractive, that is if you got lucky and predicted that he will win and what round it should. And with that said, I would say that he has a puncher's chance.

But then again, Loma is a cerebral fighter, we all know that he destroys his opponent, and what I mean is that he will crushed you not by knock out, but round by round and it makes you questions your ability as a boxer, and that's why many quit because they know they can't do it.

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October 16, 2020, 04:55:11 AM
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This fight will be similar to Floyd Mayweather versus Canelo Alvarez, I reckon. A new rising star who might not be ready versus a veteran of the sport.

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October 16, 2020, 05:02:51 AM
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This fight will be similar to Floyd Mayweather versus Canelo Alvarez, I reckon. A new rising star who might not be ready versus a veteran of the sport.

MMA fans would understand. We have witnessed this situation many times hehehe.

I'm hoping it's not the same, I saw the Floyd Mayweather versus Canelo Alvarez fight and it was a complete domination of Floyd in the fight, Canelo Alvarez was completely schooled by Floyd in that fight. This one is different I guess, Loma is not like Floyd, he loves to fight and knock out his opponent, Floyd just love to score and run, which is boring IMO.

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October 16, 2020, 05:15:12 AM
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@Natalim, that was Loma's second fight, do you have any idea how experience Salido and how dirty he is? And Salido is a cheater as well: https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2654229. So for me that loss to Salido shouldn't be a factor, I mean after that fight Loma hasn't been defeated and then become a the fastest champion in recent history.
I saw the highlights of the fight, Salido was really throwing low blows and the referrer are not even penalizing Salido for his dirty tactics, but Loma was still calm, maybe he knows deep inside that he won, and just prove he is really good but winning all his fights after that.


As for the draw? I don't like it though, it's either Lopez knock him out, or Loma make his father wave the white towel and stop the beating, that will be sweat for Loma's camp.
Draw doesn't make the fight exiting, after that there will be a rematch and the 3rd fight, of course we love to see a winner, only one.

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October 16, 2020, 06:37:32 AM
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Lomachencko, and 1, is that round 1 win like kO?

I think it's possible considering how Lopez camp are disrespecting the champ here,
Loma doesn't have the record for round 1 KO IIRC. He likes to destroy opponents' mentality first, like toying with them and forced them to retire. It's risky (based on record) if you want to bet on round 1 KO.

Quite risky indeed because Loma is a slow starter, that is why Lopez camp is urging their guy to catch Loma in the earlier round because the longer it gets it would be disaster for Lopez.

Here's my take, KO in the earlier round for Lopez and KO in the latter round for Loma, just don't know which particular round  Smiley.

BTW, hats off to Lopez Sr, he is a good promoter of the fight as he get into everyone's skin.

Would be nice to bet on Lopez early here, the odds is quite attractive and anything could happen as Lopez though less experience and younger, but this guy has a great potential with some heavy KO rate, 12/15 KO rate, I think this guy is really dangerous.

Yes, Lopez is the underdog here so the odds are really quite attractive, that is if you got lucky and predicted that he will win and what round it should. And with that said, I would say that he has a puncher's chance.

But then again, Loma is a cerebral fighter, we all know that he destroys his opponent, and what I mean is that he will crushed you not by knock out, but round by round and it makes you questions your ability as a boxer, and that's why many quit because they know they can't do it.

All I know to see in this fight is Lopez to give Loma a hard time.
Loma makes his opponent quit, that's big than knocking an opponent as you can't call that as a lucky punch, he was the power and he knows how to slowly destroy an opponent, however, he is not undefeated, he can still lose if he made a bad mistake against this younger fighter who really has the power.

Draw doesn't make the fight exiting, after that there will be a rematch and the 3rd fight, of course we love to see a winner, only one.
But it does make a bettor happy due to a good odds.  Grin

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October 16, 2020, 08:18:10 AM
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@Natalim, the fight with Salido was an obvious disgrace for boxing history. He thrown like 20+ low blows, basically beat up Loma's dick without a single point reduction. Yet, Salido was almost get knocked out at round 12 and then it went to point decision which was also gamed. This fight only proves that Loma has a steel dick and boxing is a dirty game.

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October 16, 2020, 09:20:46 AM
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@Natalim, the fight with Salido was an obvious disgrace for boxing history. He thrown like 20+ low blows, basically beat up Loma's dick without a single point reduction. Yet, Salido was almost get knocked out at round 12 and then it went to point decision which was also gamed. This fight only proves that Loma has a steel dick and boxing is a dirty game.
Yeah, and anyone who is not blind sees that it was a corrupt decision by the judges, this is what we called sports rigging and probably that time it was rig in favor of Salido, Loma could have a perfect record until now if it was judge properly, and with the fair ref as well.

But it doesn't matter, record is just a number, what important is his impact in the ring and that's what he has been doing.


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October 16, 2020, 10:05:31 AM
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This fight will be similar to Floyd Mayweather versus Canelo Alvarez, I reckon. A new rising star who might not be ready versus a veteran of the sport.

MMA fans would understand. We have witnessed this situation many times hehehe.
You know what, you have a point, Canelo that time although making a name for himself in Mexico was thrown too early for Floyd an we do know what happen to that fight. Floyd just play around with a young but hungry Canelo but didn't make it a fight as it was a one sided beating.

But comparing to Lopez though, he is too confident, specially his Dad, so I will stick to my early prediction of Lopez by early KO or not and Loma taking over.

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October 16, 2020, 10:42:12 AM
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@Natalim, that was Loma's second fight, do you have any idea how experience Salido and how dirty he is? And Salido is a cheater as well: https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2654229. So for me that loss to Salido shouldn't be a factor, I mean after that fight Loma hasn't been defeated and then become a the fastest champion in recent history.
I saw the highlights of the fight, Salido was really throwing low blows and the referrer are not even penalizing Salido for his dirty tactics, but Loma was still calm, maybe he knows deep inside that he won, and just prove he is really good but winning all his fights after that.

You can see after Salido's name was announced, Loma's eye turns different because he knows that he won and that he needed to improved. And then after that, he wins ever one of them no doubt. So it's a big lesson for him to have that lost early in his career.

And now that he is the veteran in this fight, I'm not saying that he will be dirty on Lopez, but he will school this kid and let him learn the lessons too, specially humility, because it's better to used your fist do the talking.

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October 16, 2020, 10:44:45 AM
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This fight will be similar to Floyd Mayweather versus Canelo Alvarez, I reckon. A new rising star who might not be ready versus a veteran of the sport.

MMA fans would understand. We have witnessed this situation many times hehehe.
You know what, you have a point, Canelo that time although making a name for himself in Mexico was thrown too early for Floyd an we do know what happen to that fight. Floyd just play around with a young but hungry Canelo but didn't make it a fight as it was a one sided beating.

But comparing to Lopez though, he is too confident, specially his Dad, so I will stick to my early prediction of Lopez by early KO or not and Loma taking over.

Floyd  is special, can't compare him to Loma, and Floyd will be a hall of famer despite the fact that he also has a lot of haters and did not consider him as a great fighter due to his style, but he clearly teach Canelo that he is not on his level, I think the only fighter that give Floyd a hard time was Maidana.

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October 16, 2020, 10:51:22 AM
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The fight will going to happen tomorrow and many boxing fans are waiting for this because of lockdown and strict implementation of community quarantine these kind of activity was put to hold including other sports as well.

Now that finally organizers are working on to continue what has been started of making a way to enjoy watching sports while staying at home. This time sports are better to watch than movies because in sports is a two way interactive like getting into live and be part of virtual fans. Sports activities now seems like a good way of enjoying the stay at home.
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October 16, 2020, 11:39:16 AM
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The fight will going to happen tomorrow and many boxing fans are waiting for this because of lockdown and strict implementation of community quarantine these kind of activity was put to hold including other sports as well.

Now that finally organizers are working on to continue what has been started of making a way to enjoy watching sports while staying at home. This time sports are better to watch than movies because in sports is a two way interactive like getting into live and be part of virtual fans. Sports activities now seems like a good way of enjoying the stay at home.

We are all excited for this fight, that's because it's Loma's fight, an exciting boxer where you can expect a KO from him.
The talking is going to be over tomorrow as they will be doing it in the ring, hopefully Lopez will talk much in the right too, through his action of course.

If indeed the fight will be a huge success, I would say both fighters are good in selling the fight.

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October 16, 2020, 01:06:26 PM
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Because also Loma doesn't have the power

Loma is a lightweight, that is something between 59kg to 61kg. What kind of power do you expect from that to be honest ? Cheesy Yes, he can easily knockout untrained person with single punch, but for a professional he need to land more than one. Loma has 10 victories over KO, but this was no a first round KO. He landed a dozens of punches to the head, and then the body simply turns off after 1 hit.

So yes, Loma does not have power, but lightweights and below dont have them either.

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October 16, 2020, 08:45:58 PM
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Draw doesn't make the fight exiting, after that there will be a rematch and the 3rd fight, of course we love to see a winner, only one.
But it does make a bettor happy due to a good odds.  Grin

Yes, this is my point, hehehe. Although I'm a Loma and I see him winning, we can't discount that just maybe, Lopez survives and make it a draw. Just a few mBtc wouldn't hurt to throw a beat on it,  Grin. See the thread becomes lively because of the odds and it's just a couple of days from now, and as boxing fans everyone has his/her own prediction, making this fights one of the most anticipated this year, even if you look at Youtube, lots of analysis, so make our bet count.  Wink

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October 16, 2020, 08:56:56 PM
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Draw doesn't make the fight exiting, after that there will be a rematch and the 3rd fight, of course we love to see a winner, only one.
But it does make a bettor happy due to a good odds.  Grin

Yes, this is my point, hehehe. Although I'm a Loma and I see him winning, we can't discount that just maybe, Lopez survives and make it a draw. Just a few mBtc wouldn't hurt to throw a beat on it,  Grin. See the thread becomes lively because of the odds and it's just a couple of days from now, and as boxing fans everyone has his/her own prediction, making this fights one of the most anticipated this year, even if you look at Youtube, lots of analysis, so make our bet count.  Wink
But we need to be careful spreading out bets though, for average joe gambler, much better to just bet on few "possible outcomes", so as not to get burned. Based on my experience, I did this kind of spread betting, yes I won, but not that much, so be an intelligent bettor, just saying. Anyway, I don't see this going to the judges card with a draw, maybe a unanimous decision for Loma.

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October 16, 2020, 09:50:15 PM
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Draw doesn't make the fight exiting, after that there will be a rematch and the 3rd fight, of course we love to see a winner, only one.
But it does make a bettor happy due to a good odds.  Grin

Yes, this is my point, hehehe. Although I'm a Loma and I see him winning, we can't discount that just maybe, Lopez survives and make it a draw. Just a few mBtc wouldn't hurt to throw a beat on it,  Grin. See the thread becomes lively because of the odds and it's just a couple of days from now, and as boxing fans everyone has his/her own prediction, making this fights one of the most anticipated this year, even if you look at Youtube, lots of analysis, so make our bet count.  Wink
But we need to be careful spreading out bets though, for average joe gambler, much better to just bet on few "possible outcomes", so as not to get burned. Based on my experience, I did this kind of spread betting, yes I won, but not that much, so be an intelligent bettor, just saying. Anyway, I don't see this going to the judges card with a draw, maybe a unanimous decision for Loma.
We certainly have our own prediction but no one can really ascertain what would happen in this fight that's why we put a bet, everyone expect a win from Loma, that's make Lopez a good bet here, I'm not saying he will win, but things could happen as upset happens from time to time in sports.

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October 17, 2020, 12:19:16 AM
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As for the draw? I don't like it though, it's either Lopez knock him out, or Loma make his father wave the white towel and stop the beating, that will be sweat for Loma's camp.
Draw doesn't make the fight exiting, after that there will be a rematch and the 3rd fight, of course we love to see a winner, only one.

Yes, that's what I'm saying, a boxing draw doesn't sit well with boxing fans, and there will be lots of speculations, others will fault it to the judges, and then there is the rematch to settle the score. And I will echo most of the sentiments here, it could either be KO by Lopez because he has the tools or Loma by a close or wide decision.

If the latter happen though, could this be a boring fight? Because it will be a chess game, wherein Lopez trying to be the aggressor but Loma is too elusive but scoring at will and time catches up with Lopez and wasn't able to solve the riddle of "The Matrix"?

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October 17, 2020, 01:55:45 AM
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@Baofeng, bookies just put the odds for the undercard for this fight, wanna do a parlay?

I reckon that Loma will win this fight  Smiley, all we need to do is find a way how to increase the odds and a parlay on the undercards might be that way and maybe we could get at least an odds of 2.

In our country, this fight would be air on free TV, how about in your country?
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October 17, 2020, 06:57:22 AM
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Here is the intense weigh-in between the two,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngO-uC-RS0Q

Lopez though looks nervous during the face off and Loma was so cool, we all know that when fighters are showing weaknesses in face off, like talking too much and can't stand with his opponents, what is your take on those body languages? specially coming from Lopez?

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October 17, 2020, 07:09:30 AM
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Lopez is really the bigger guy between the two, but what Loma says in the interview? it's scary, he says that he wanted a full 12 round beating of Lopez and he doesn't want it to finished early.

As far as body language, it looks like Lopez was the first one to crack, but he was also the first one to initiate the face-off by going under the ropes. But you can clearly see in Lopez eyes, his a bit nervous while Loma staring him down up to the last minutes, this is going to be a bad ass fight for sure. And that smile of Loma's face? reminds me of Pacquiao though, when he was absolute beast destroying everyone in his path.

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