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January 10, 2020, 09:15:38 AM
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Date:  TBA
Venue: TBA

The unification fight between Loma and Lopes is sure to take place, they are just finalizing the date and the venue.
Loma will once again be tested with this young and taller Lopez.

Bob Arum quoted,
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“Lomachenko is fighting Lopez, that is done. Now the question is the site of the fight. We have Madison Square Garden bidding against Barclays in Brooklyn and we are also getting a bid from Saudi Arabia to do that fight,” Arum stated.

Odds for this fight is not out as there is no final date of the fight yet.

What do you think of this fight guys?
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January 10, 2020, 09:22:43 AM
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The theme for this bout is once again "youth vs experience".

This is the ultimate goal of Loma, to unify all the belt in the Lightweight division before he retire.

This would be an easy fight for him i supposed.
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January 10, 2020, 10:36:06 AM
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I have only seen Lopez fight once. That was against Commey, as a main supporting bout of the recent Crawford vs. Kavaliauskas match. I cannot make much out of that fight as it was finished in the second round. It was a walk in the park for the young fighter. This upcoming fight must be a dream come true for him. If I am not mistaken, he has been calling for this. At 22 years old, this fighter should be offering a great challenge inside the ring against the much older Loma. But still, I am for Loma in this fight. I haven't seen any sign of him slowing down despite his age.

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There's an estimated date for the fight already though not final.
https://www.fightsaga.com/fightsaga/news/loma-vs-lopez-odds
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Lopez' win over Commey was a game changer; it was the type of bout that catapults careers. It was the type of bout that generates fans. It was a fight viewers won't forget.

As a result of last night's heroics, look for Lomachenko vs Lopez to happen in April or May.

"We're looking for April," promoter Bob Arum told FightHype last night.

After Teofimo's brilliant performance last night, there's no denying him.
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Bob Arum, in an interview with FightHype last night, summed it up:

"Loma's gonna be in there with this beast [Lopez]... I mean, to do that to Commey.... A real seasoned lightweight.... And it was a 50/50 fight."

This is a good fight as Loma's opponent is a good boxer too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Te%C3%B3fimo_L%C3%B3pez
his record is : 15 wins 12 from KO and no loses.

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January 10, 2020, 04:09:56 PM
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Code:
https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-warns-lomachenko-underestimate-me--145778

Date:  TBA
Venue: TBA

The unification fight between Loma and Lopes is sure to take place, they are just finalizing the date and the venue.
Loma will once again be tested with this young and taller Lopez.

Bob Arum quoted,
Quote
“Lomachenko is fighting Lopez, that is done. Now the question is the site of the fight. We have Madison Square Garden bidding against Barclays in Brooklyn and we are also getting a bid from Saudi Arabia to do that fight,” Arum stated.

Odds for this fight is not out as there is no final date of the fight yet.

What do you think of this fight guys?


Teofimo Lopez is only 22 years of age, even though he is a good fighter and lightweight titleholder but experience does matter in boxing.
Whenever this match date is decided and it is available in sportsbooks I will bet for Lomachenko. Even if Lopez lose the match, it will be a honor for him to play against Lomachenko.

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January 10, 2020, 04:26:33 PM
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Well, this will be a thrilling fight between those two boxing fighters. But I am in favor of Lopez because he is young and probably hunger for this fight. At the age of 22, at this age usually, fighters have strength but dont have a strategy. I hope the odd will go with Lopez and this young fighter will win this match. Indeed, there are too many instances that Loma will have a chance.









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~snip~
What do you think of this fight guys?
^ I think the fighter will remain stand after this match is Lomanchenko. He is an old fighter compared to Lopez which is bringing his father named and enter into this boxing career. Lomanchenko has a great record as a good fighter he fought different fighting divisions and won 2 Olympic Gold Medals and 3 division championships in under 12 fight. He proved himself that this match is very easy for him to defeat his opponent. I think the Lopez team now is preparing too much because they know that the odds of this match are in favor of Lomanchenko.
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Well, this will be a thrilling fight between those two boxing fighters. But I am in favor of Lopez because he is young and probably hunger for this fight. At the age of 22, at this age usually, fighters have strength but dont have a strategy. I hope the odd will go with Lopez and this young fighter will win this match. Indeed, there are too many instances that Loma will have a chance.

Yes, Lopez is young but it wont really be that enough to beat out Lomachenko which is more experienced when it comes to this field.
He might have a shot but my bet is on Loma for this one and as said above where Lopez team is pretty aware on such situation.
They should prepare out something for the fight and might there be an unexpected result and since this one is still TBA then
still high chances that there would be alterations.

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January 11, 2020, 01:55:39 AM
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I'll go with Loma here, he is peaking at this stage and it's hard to see someone as young as Lopez being able to handle Loma as this point of his career. Yes, Lopez is good, he is young, however, he hasn't fought high caliber fighter. And we all know how Loma fights, he will read all your moves early and they uses his tools and experience to toy you until you don't have any answers and you break down from his methodical and surgical and precise attack. Loma by decision or stoppage inside 10 rounds.

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Code:
https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-warns-lomachenko-underestimate-me--145778

Date:  TBA
Venue: TBA

The unification fight between Loma and Lopes is sure to take place, they are just finalizing the date and the venue.
Loma will once again be tested with this young and taller Lopez.

Bob Arum quoted,
Quote
“Lomachenko is fighting Lopez, that is done. Now the question is the site of the fight. We have Madison Square Garden bidding against Barclays in Brooklyn and we are also getting a bid from Saudi Arabia to do that fight,” Arum stated.

Odds for this fight is not out as there is no final date of the fight yet.

What do you think of this fight guys?


Teofimo Lopez is only 22 years of age, even though he is a good fighter and lightweight titleholder but experience does matter in boxing.
Whenever this match date is decided and it is available in sportsbooks I will bet for Lomachenko. Even if Lopez lose the match, it will be a honor for him to play against Lomachenko.

Agreed. I also like Lomachenko to win here and be challenged by another young fighter. Ryan Garcia. I speculate that he might become boxing's most celebrated lightweight.

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The theme for this bout is once again "youth vs experience".

This is the ultimate goal of Loma, to unify all the belt in the Lightweight division before he retire.

This would be an easy fight for him i supposed.

Retire?! the guy is just 31 years he still has great fighting years ahead after this, and Lopez is not that fast but strong enough to give him trouble, he has a good straight and every punch that he throws is a haymaker, saw his fight against Commey and it's enough to qualify both Commey and Loma to a good match up, hope there will a date and a venue coming.


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January 12, 2020, 06:51:36 PM
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The theme for this bout is once again "youth vs experience".

This is the ultimate goal of Loma, to unify all the belt in the Lightweight division before he retire.

This would be an easy fight for him i supposed.

Retire?! the guy is just 31 years he still has great fighting years ahead after this, and Lopez is not that fast but strong enough to give him trouble, he has a good straight and every punch that he throws is a haymaker, saw his fight against Commey and it's enough to qualify both Commey and Loma to a good match up, hope there will a date and a venue coming.

No doubt, he has many years ahead of him but this match is against Lopez who is just 22 and there is a difference of 10 years between the two. I have seen many people talking about this age difference on difference boxing articles and forums.
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January 12, 2020, 07:46:07 PM
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Teofimo Lopez is only 22 years of age, even though he is a good fighter and lightweight titleholder but experience does matter in boxing.
Whenever this match date is decided and it is available in sportsbooks I will bet for Lomachenko. Even if Lopez lose the match, it will be a honor for him to play against Lomachenko.
That is right that when a fighter had more experience means he had fought other fighters with different fighting style or strategy. Young fighters do have some advantages because of being young. The question is, does the fighter strong in mental and physical to take damage?. Both fighters have good abilities and let's wait who will win. I'm sure there would be a bet running before the date of fight will be public.

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Damn, didn't expect this fight to get made so fast. Hopefully it's made within the next three months, but based on how long it took to make the Joshua/Ruiz 2 fight in Saudi, I hope they go for MSG.

Then again, they did need to build the arena for the AJ fight, so I guess it's not a direct comparison.

Nonetheless, props to Teofimo for stepping up where other fights cowered away. He's definitely going to get absolutely schooled by Loma, but Lopez is definitely a warrior, even at 22 years of age.

Would love to see Loma fight Tank Davis and Devin Haney this year too, that would be epic. However, it seems Lomachenko has only been fighting 2x per year lately, so that is definitely wishful thinking.

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The theme for this bout is once again "youth vs experience".

This is the ultimate goal of Loma, to unify all the belt in the Lightweight division before he retire.

This would be an easy fight for him i supposed.

Retire?! the guy is just 31 years he still has great fighting years ahead after this, and Lopez is not that fast but strong enough to give him trouble, he has a good straight and every punch that he throws is a haymaker, saw his fight against Commey and it's enough to qualify both Commey and Loma to a good match up, hope there will a date and a venue coming.

No doubt, he has many years ahead of him but this match is against Lopez who is just 22 and there is a difference of 10 years between the two. I have seen many people talking about this age difference on difference boxing articles and forums.

Experience wise deals with his potential towards the person who challenges him on the boxing ring. That's why it got the interest on so many people discussing about their characters as well as the skills on boxing. Because any speculations comes prior to their fight, it became a trending on different articles particular on social media.
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Damn, didn't expect this fight to get made so fast. Hopefully it's made within the next three months, but based on how long it took to make the Joshua/Ruiz 2 fight in Saudi, I hope they go for MSG.

Then again, they did need to build the arena for the AJ fight, so I guess it's not a direct comparison.

Nonetheless, props to Teofimo for stepping up where other fights cowered away. He's definitely going to get absolutely schooled by Loma, but Lopez is definitely a warrior, even at 22 years of age.

Would love to see Loma fight Tank Davis and Devin Haney this year too, that would be epic. However, it seems Lomachenko has only been fighting 2x per year lately, so that is definitely wishful thinking.



Haha, I 100% agree mate, really props to the young Teofimo here, when every one was either going up in weight or really go and fight Loma, this kid didn't blink an eye and readily sign the dotted line to fight one of the best in this era.

I'm expecting that Davis will be the first, I guess the young Teofimo really wanted to show his talent that's why he step up the plate here.

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if the young boxer dont mess with the experienced boxer like Lomachenko there will be a  chance to beat this old boxer.

but i also in advantage for Loma here,though the fight was not declared when and where yet they need to gain viewers because we have one big fight to come soon.

The theme for this bout is once again "youth vs experience".

This is the ultimate goal of Loma, to unify all the belt in the Lightweight division before he retire.

This would be an easy fight for him i supposed.

Retire?! the guy is just 31 years he still has great fighting years ahead after this, and Lopez is not that fast but strong enough to give him trouble, he has a good straight and every punch that he throws is a haymaker, saw his fight against Commey and it's enough to qualify both Commey and Loma to a good match up, hope there will a date and a venue coming.

No doubt, he has many years ahead of him but this match is against Lopez who is just 22 and there is a difference of 10 years between the two. I have seen many people talking about this age difference on difference boxing articles and forums.
funny when others are talking about retirement when Loma is just in his Peak and had tons of fight before retirement.Manny Pacquiao is more older but still going up the ring still.









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The unification fight between Loma and Lopes is sure to take place, they are just finalizing the date and the venue.
Loma will once again be tested with this young and taller Lopez.
What ever venue it will be or any opponent i am always going with Vasyl Lomachenko to win the fight as he is out of this world and i do not see any fighter even catching him with a power punch, he is way too advanced than the rest of the fighters and his movements are just crazy high level. The two fighters who are coached by their dad are the best fighters in the world right now, Vasyl Lomachenko is trained by his dad and Khabib Nurmagomedov who is fighting in MMA are probably the toughest and the best fighters of this generation.
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I have Loma over Lopez here, I saw Lopez fight against Commey and he will need to be very fast to be able to catch LOmachenko, Loma is very much used to fighting hard puncher, Lopez has a good right hand but speed is everything in boxing and combines with the power, I don't think he will have an edge against Loma, but of course I will not rule an upset, it sometimes happens, he has a chance for an upset because of his power.

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What is the purpose of making that unification fight ? You don't get any belt. You don't get any rating points. The only thing you can get is an injury. And money...

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I'm expecting that Davis will be the first, I guess the young Teofimo really wanted to show his talent that's why he step up the plate here.
After the fight Teofimo Lopez will have a good experience fighting against an artist in the ring and i do not see anyone defeating Lomachenko  anytime soon, if he is fighting in his late 30s then age might catch up with him other than that no one is going to catch him and even if there is a lucky punch i am sure he will come back and do a master class on the opponent so that he will not be able to land any more punches.
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Loma comes with lot of experience and sure he going to win the fight and add a belt to his career. I guess it should be an honour for Lopez to fight against Loma and consider this as a moment . This indeed will be a good fight with experience beating the young blood. My bets if any surely going to be on Lomachenko.

Date:  TBA
Venue: TBA

The unification fight between Loma and Lopes is sure to take place, they are just finalizing the date and the venue.
Loma will once again be tested with this young and taller Lopez.

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“Lomachenko is fighting Lopez, that is done. Now the question is the site of the fight. We have Madison Square Garden bidding against Barclays in Brooklyn and we are also getting a bid from Saudi Arabia to do that fight,” Arum stated.

Odds for this fight is not out as there is no final date of the fight yet.

What do you think of this fight guys?

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I didn't like Teofimo Lopez, in the first match against Diego Magdaleno he had a celebration that made many people criticize.
In this first match, Lopez was the better player for most of the time and got a knockout victory in the 8th period. Seemingly overjoyed with this victory, the 21-year-old boxer was overjoyed. He started with a dance in the game "Fortnite", followed by an acrobatics before running straight to his opponent Magdaleno lying on the floor to let go of provocations.
That is not beautiful action


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January 13, 2020, 05:30:26 PM
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What is the purpose of making that unification fight ? You don't get any belt. You don't get any rating points. The only thing you can get is an injury. And money...
Well, I suppose money is everything it's still the same as getting a belt though. Just look at Floyd Mayweather going against weaker opponents to get that easy money with just an exhibition fight. Expect already that there are gamblers too who will going to vouch money for gambling purposes only.

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Lomachenko is an excellent fighter, it is great to see him playing. If the first match between Lomachenko vs Teofimo Lopez was held, I would cheer for Lomachenko


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January 14, 2020, 02:06:35 PM
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What is the purpose of making that unification fight ? You don't get any belt. You don't get any rating points. The only thing you can get is an injury. And money...
Well, I suppose money is everything it's still the same as getting a belt though. Just look at Floyd Mayweather going against weaker opponents to get that easy money with just an exhibition fight. Expect already that there are gamblers too who will going to vouch money for gambling purposes only.

We all know that boxing is a business, so I guess when there is a lot of money in the table, reunification, mandatory fights can be put aside and make fights that will make a lot of money for promoters and fighter themselves.

@xZork - I agree, it was very disrespectful on the part of Lopez, but I think a lot of trash talk between him and Magdaleno, lots of emotion involved and being very young, he might has gone overboard with his antics that time.

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January 14, 2020, 02:41:03 PM
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again another AGE and EXPERIENCE test?

there is no doubt as Lomachenko is in his perfect age to prove his boxing skills,and this young aggressive Fighter Lopez also wants to prove his capacity so?for me in this one it is the experience will decide who will win.









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January 14, 2020, 02:51:41 PM
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again another AGE and EXPERIENCE test?

there is no doubt as Lomachenko is in his perfect age to prove his boxing skills,and this young aggressive Fighter Lopez also wants to prove his capacity so?for me in this one it is the experience will decide who will win.

I wouldn't call this age vs experience. Loma was a late starter in boxing, but he get his chances to be a champion in his second fight if I'm not mistaken.

So Lomachenko is just on his prime, peaking at the right time vs a young and very aggressive Lopez who thinks that he can beat Loma at this stage. So in this kind of scenario, a talented and very skilled and with so much experience usually won. So let's see if a young fighter Lopez can prove us wrong.
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Teofimo Lopez got the advantage for me, the height and reach js on favon Teofimo Lopez and boxing records too; still Teofimo Lopez got no lost on his entire boxing professional career.
Even one of the IBF lightweight champion Tyson Fury said that Teofimo Lopez can beat Vasiliy Lomachenko on this fight. Tyson Fury is rooting for Teofimo Lopez for this fight against Vasiliy Lomachenko.
He once said that here;
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February 02, 2020, 11:59:41 PM
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again another AGE and EXPERIENCE test?

there is no doubt as Lomachenko is in his perfect age to prove his boxing skills,and this young aggressive Fighter Lopez also wants to prove his capacity so?for me in this one it is the experience will decide who will win.

I really wouldn't say this is a youth vs experience test whatsoever.

Isn't Lomachenko like, what... 31 or 32 tops? That's definitely not even close to old in his division. Lighter guys can usually keep fighting a lot longer than older ones IMO, so long as they keep their speed.

Teofimo is up against a guy that is basically in his prime, both in terms of athleticism and experience. It's going to be devestation that's for sure.

The odds only have Loma at a 1/4 favorite though, surprisingly really.

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What is the purpose of making that unification fight ? You don't get any belt. You don't get any rating points. The only thing you can get is an injury. And money...

Unification bout is very important to see who among the champions really deserves to be called a real champion on that division, we now have 5 boxing organization and it's good for the boxing world to see unification bout to represent only one weight category, of all the unification what i really want to see is the bout against Wilder and Joshua.

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February 03, 2020, 05:10:02 AM
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Well, this will be a thrilling fight between those two boxing fighters. But I am in favor of Lopez because he is young and probably hunger for this fight. At the age of 22, at this age usually, fighters have strength but don't have a strategy. I hope the odd will go with Lopez and this young fighter will win this match. Indeed, there are too many instances that Loma will have a chance.

Experience is a huge advantage in boxing though we cannot square out that Lopez as a young boxer is eager and has a good boxing record with no defeat and compared to lomachenko, his KO rate is higher.  This is a good march to watch.

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Experience is a huge advantage in boxing though we cannot square out that Lopez as a young boxer is eager and has a good boxing record with no defeat and compared to lomachenko, his KO rate is higher.  This is a good march to watch.

Strange to see that he has got only 3 fight on Wikipedia while his record is 15-0. Does it means that despite this 15 wins were in "professionals", 12 of the opponents were punching bags? Smiley

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Lomachenko might have the experience, but as Bob Arum said, Lopez can bring out surprises to fights. The age gap is not really that relevant since 30s is still an age where mose boxers actually fight their best, with training and experience in the ring.

It's either Lopez surprises us, or Lomachenko proves Lopez he ain't ready to take the title. Nevertheless, still a fight worth to watch.



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February 05, 2020, 01:20:57 PM
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Lomachenko might have the experience, but as Bob Arum said, Lopez can bring out surprises to fights. The age gap is not really that relevant since 30s is still an age where mose boxers actually fight their best, with training and experience in the ring.

It's either Lopez surprises us, or Lomachenko proves Lopez he ain't ready to take the title. Nevertheless, still a fight worth to watch.

It really is a great fight to watch Lopez will prove to be a big challenge for Loma, because Lopez can take out a fighter with just one punch, while Loma takes it with a lot of combination if Lopez can catch up Loma's speed then he is in big trouble, like Pacquiao, Loma's big weapon is his speed and accuracy.

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Well, this will be a thrilling fight between those two boxing fighters. But I am in favor of Lopez because he is young and probably hunger for this fight. At the age of 22, at this age usually, fighters have strength but don't have a strategy. I hope the odd will go with Lopez and this young fighter will win this match. Indeed, there are too many instances that Loma will have a chance.

Experience is a huge advantage in boxing though we cannot square out that Lopez as a young boxer is eager and has a good boxing record with no defeat and compared to lomachenko, his KO rate is higher.  This is a good march to watch.

As far as Loma's boxing record is concerned, it is best to go beyond what he achieved professionally in terms of numbers. Although Lopez has indeed a better professional boxing record as compared to Loma, it should not be the only basis. We have to take note that in all of Loma's professional fights, only one is not a title fight and that was his debut match. After his debut, every fight of this man is already a title fight. And he already secured a world title in his third professional match. We have to consider his amateur record of 396 wins and only a single loss. A true legend.

This fight for me is like a match between a teacher and one of his best students. A good fight of course but one is simply much better than the other. It is no wonder why Loma got a -400 favorite odds over Lopez, at least as far as Betfair is concerned.

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I will go with Lomanchenko, i've seen Lopez highlights and his fights it was impressive knockout victories but those we're not so good fighters, i think this could be his first time facing a real experience fighter.

Lomanchenko is more, as a counter puncher and a strategist on the other hand Lopez is a very aggressive fighter. For me in fights like this, the one with most experience wins but who knows Lopez might have a shocking knockout win.

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February 05, 2020, 02:23:59 PM
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I will go with Lomanchenko, i've seen Lopez highlights and his fights it was impressive knockout victories but those we're not so good fighters, i think this could be his first time facing a real experience fighter.

Lomanchenko is more, as a counter puncher and a strategist on the other hand Lopez is a very aggressive fighter. For me in fights like this, the one with most experience wins but who knows Lopez might have a shocking knockout win.

I am tempted to go for Lomachenko but the guy Lopez can knock any guy with one good punch a fighter with a one punch knock out is ont only dangerous but can win the fight in any round at any time, his defense is also good I don't want to predict a draw but I will go for Loma if it reach a decision.

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I will go with Lomanchenko, i've seen Lopez highlights and his fights it was impressive knockout victories but those we're not so good fighters, i think this could be his first time facing a real experience fighter.

Lomanchenko is more, as a counter puncher and a strategist on the other hand Lopez is a very aggressive fighter. For me in fights like this, the one with most experience wins but who knows Lopez might have a shocking knockout win.

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Plus his footwork is unreal, I don't think Lopez has ever gone up against a fighter so light on his feet before (are there even any others?)

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February 05, 2020, 03:03:49 PM
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What is the purpose of making that unification fight ? You don't get any belt. You don't get any rating points. The only thing you can get is an injury. And money...

Unification bout is very important to see who among the champions really deserves to be called a real champion on that division, we now have 5 boxing organization and it's good for the boxing world to see unification bout to represent only one weight category, of all the unification what i really want to see is the bout against Wilder and Joshua.
supporting this,there are many title holder in each division so why not try to Bout them all to find who really deserves the title?
we have seen them fight in each organization but we have not witnessed fighting in other organization that we wanted them to face?
so would be glad shuffling them to fight each other?and besides for me a boxer must face everyone in his division to prove his worth as a real fighter and a champion.

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Vasyl Lomachenko is the best technical boxer we have seen in a very long time and Teofimo Lopez is a young boxer and i feel he will be having a hard time in this fight and i am always going with Vasyl Lomachenko to win the fight but the problem is that we might not the best odds because of the inexperience level of the opponent but i am expecting an entertaining fight from Lomachenko.
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supporting this,there are many title holder in each division so why not try to Bout them all to find who really deserves the title?
we have seen them fight in each organization but we have not witnessed fighting in other organization that we wanted them to face?
so would be glad shuffling them to fight each other?and besides for me a boxer must face everyone in his division to prove his worth as a real fighter and a champion.

It's not that easy and simple to just make a deal with other boxers on the same and different divisions even how fans badly want it.

There are lots of steps and considerations before a successful deal, especially at cross-organization divisions bout.

For more info and much detailed one, try to search for the process.
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Vasyl Lomachenko is the best technical boxer we have seen in a very long time and Teofimo Lopez is a young boxer and i feel he will be having a hard time in this fight and i am always going with Vasyl Lomachenko to win the fight but the problem is that we might not the best odds because of the inexperience level of the opponent but i am expecting an entertaining fight from Lomachenko.
I really like Lomachenko, for me he has the speed and power like prime Pacquiao had with a little bit boastfulness like Mayorga had Grin. He absolutely ebtertains me every time I watch his fight especially when he is taunting his opponent so no doubt why he got greater odds. I also vote for Lomachenko, given that he will avoid such funny acts right now. He should be very careful because facing Lopez isn'nt a joke either, he also didn't became a champion for no reason Smiley.
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February 05, 2020, 11:55:12 PM
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I know everyone is rooting on Loma to win this fight but I'll go with the opponent since he is always undefeated with most of his wins are coming from KO.
Not really familiar with the boxer but I can check it here : https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/776269

since the no date yet when its gonna happen, there's nothing we can do but to wait but for sure Lopez will be a heavy dog here and I like that odds.

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February 06, 2020, 03:05:04 AM
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I know everyone is rooting on Loma to win this fight but I'll go with the opponent since he is always undefeated with most of his wins are coming from KO.
Not really familiar with the boxer but I can check it here : 
This is the issue with the opponent, he is an up coming talent and Teofimo Lopez never faced any worthy contenders and now he is booked against arguably the best boxers in the world and i hope they will change their plans and rather build the young fighter rather than feeding to Vasyl Lomachenko.

since the no date yet when its gonna happen, there's nothing we can do but to wait but for sure Lopez will be a heavy dog here and I like that odds.
Vasyl Lomachenko will be the betting favorite and the odds will be heavily lopsided and hopefully they will book another fight rather than going with the youngster.
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I know everyone is rooting on Loma to win this fight but I'll go with the opponent since he is always undefeated with most of his wins are coming from KO.
Not really familiar with the boxer but I can check it here : https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/776269

since the no date yet when its gonna happen, there's nothing we can do but to wait but for sure Lopez will be a heavy dog here and I like that odds.
You'll be getting much better/higher odd if you'll bet with the underdog though Loma from his past games also have a big edge against Lopez which still
young compared to experienced Lomachenko.
This fight can still be favoring Loma lets see what odd will be offered for both fighters once there's already confirm fate for this fight.
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Well, this will be a thrilling fight between those two boxing fighters. But I am in favor of Lopez because he is young and probably hunger for this fight. At the age of 22, at this age usually, fighters have strength but dont have a strategy. I hope the odd will go with Lopez and this young fighter will win this match. Indeed, there are too many instances that Loma will have a chance.

I'll go with Lopez, he is not just hunger, he is really strong and can dominate who ever his opponent is. He already proved something for us and no one can ever deny that because of his record of that is undefeated. He had the IBF lightweight title and I think that he can defend that for about 6 times against his opponents because there is no other lightweight division fighter that can oust him from being a title holder. In some cases, although he was defeated in a summer olympics, that doesn't matter when it comes to a real boxing match. As you can see in his highlights, his punches are quick and strong for his body composition and I can see that Lomachenko will be knocked out by Lopez. But it depends, Lomachenko is also a good fighter but he's lucky if he can stay until round 12.

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I'll go with Lopez, he is not just hunger, he is really strong and can dominate who ever his opponent is. He already proved something for us and no one can ever deny that because of his record of that is undefeated. He had the IBF lightweight title and I think that he can defend that for about 6 times against his opponents because there is no other lightweight division fighter that can oust him from being a title holder.

Are you sure that there is no other lightweight that can defeat Lopez? I''ll laughed on you if Lopez will defeated by Lomachenko. It doesn't mean that Lopez will surely win because of the age gap, but it is about who is experienced and have a lot of opponent defeated. Although this isn't really happening yet, maybe he will end his undefeated career if he loses to Lomachenko.

 He is relentless and can dominate his opponent with his punches, although it is very hard to determine if who's the underdog here. Maybe some people are caring about the odds but what can we do? We just need to wait for the official announcement between this fight.

In some cases, although he was defeated in a summer olympics, that doesn't matter when it comes to a real boxing match. As you can see in his highlights, his punches are quick and strong for his body composition and I can see that Lomachenko will be knocked out by Lopez. But it depends, Lomachenko is also a good fighter but he's lucky if he can stay until round 12.

His defeat in Summer Olympics proved that he can't be always strong, he has also some weaknesses that's why Lomachenko will look for it so that Lopez will lose again. It is about the preparation of the fighters and coaches, let's see what Lopez can bring to the boxing ring. I think Lopez will be the one who's getting knocked out by Lomachenko at round 5 - round 10. The stamina is also a factor here, and I know that as an experienced professional boxer, Lomachenko will do something about that.
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February 06, 2020, 03:17:25 PM
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I haven't made a bet on any of the boxing matches during the last few months, but I will be making one for this match. The only issue is that the odds for Vasiliy Lomachenko are not looking that attractive. I could find 1/4 from William Hill, Paddy Power and Betfair. Teofimo Lopez is going at 11/4. I need to chose one of these two odds and I am 90% certain that I'll go with Loma (1/4).
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Well, this will be a thrilling fight between those two boxing fighters. But I am in favor of Lopez because he is young and probably hunger for this fight. At the age of 22, at this age usually, fighters have strength but dont have a strategy. I hope the odd will go with Lopez and this young fighter will win this match. Indeed, there are too many instances that Loma will have a chance.

I'll go with Lopez, he is not just hunger, he is really strong and can dominate who ever his opponent is. He already proved something for us and no one can ever deny that because of his record of that is undefeated. He had the IBF lightweight title and I think that he can defend that for about 6 times against his opponents because there is no other lightweight division fighter that can oust him from being a title holder. In some cases, although he was defeated in a summer olympics, that doesn't matter when it comes to a real boxing match. As you can see in his highlights, his punches are quick and strong for his body composition and I can see that Lomachenko will be knocked out by Lopez. But it depends, Lomachenko is also a good fighter but he's lucky if he can stay until round 12.


Round 12 is a very long fight for him but he needed to take more points to beat the punches of Lopez. Lomanchenko should be coached with more defense instead of having more offensive attacks because being so aggressive leads him to skipped punches which definitely wasted.
Who knows what will be the outcome of this in their fight, Lopez shouldn't lose his confidence too much with this man because it might be in reverse if Lomanchenko can stand along at 12 rounds. That's still possible with simple errors he also be beatin by quick and fatal knock out punches.
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Well, this will be a thrilling fight between those two boxing fighters. But I am in favor of Lopez because he is young and probably hunger for this fight. At the age of 22, at this age usually, fighters have strength but dont have a strategy. I hope the odd will go with Lopez and this young fighter will win this match. Indeed, there are too many instances that Loma will have a chance.

I'll go with Lopez, he is not just hunger, he is really strong and can dominate who ever his opponent is. He already proved something for us and no one can ever deny that because of his record of that is undefeated. He had the IBF lightweight title and I think that he can defend that for about 6 times against his opponents because there is no other lightweight division fighter that can oust him from being a title holder. In some cases, although he was defeated in a summer olympics, that doesn't matter when it comes to a real boxing match. As you can see in his highlights, his punches are quick and strong for his body composition and I can see that Lomachenko will be knocked out by Lopez. But it depends, Lomachenko is also a good fighter but he's lucky if he can stay until round 12.

To be fair with Lopez, yes he is a hard punching machine, very young and hungry for more boxing glory. He just won the IBF lightweight, but there are a lot of good boxers as well in that division that can potentially defeat him. However, I don't see him knocking out Loma though, Loma is a technically sound boxer, not just in his offensive prowess, but he can play defense as well. So if the boxing odds are going to be open, I'm sure that Loma will be the favourite here. But it will be good for gamblers to bet for Lopez, those who like good odds specially for live underdogs.

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February 06, 2020, 11:12:21 PM
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So if the boxing odds are going to be open, I'm sure that Loma will be the favourite here. But it will be good for gamblers to bet for Lopez, those who like good odds specially for live underdogs.
That's exactly what's in my mind now, if Loma would be a heacvy favorite I would like that because this would give better betting odds on his opponent.
As a gambler, we don't bet on the favorites all the time, we also consider an upset especially when the odds are very tempting.

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Well, this will be a thrilling fight between those two boxing fighters. But I am in favor of Lopez because he is young and probably hunger for this fight. At the age of 22, at this age usually, fighters have strength but dont have a strategy. I hope the odd will go with Lopez and this young fighter will win this match. Indeed, there are too many instances that Loma will have a chance.

I'll go with Lopez, he is not just hunger, he is really strong and can dominate who ever his opponent is. He already proved something for us and no one can ever deny that because of his record of that is undefeated. He had the IBF lightweight title and I think that he can defend that for about 6 times against his opponents because there is no other lightweight division fighter that can oust him from being a title holder. In some cases, although he was defeated in a summer olympics, that doesn't matter when it comes to a real boxing match. As you can see in his highlights, his punches are quick and strong for his body composition and I can see that Lomachenko will be knocked out by Lopez. But it depends, Lomachenko is also a good fighter but he's lucky if he can stay until round 12.

Lmao, come on bro.

Lopez is going to get completely destroyed, it's completely obvious.

Have you seen Lomachenkos pro record, or his amateur record? Come on dude LMAO. The guy is a prodigy in the sport of boxing.

If you really believe what you say, put a big bet on Lopez to win, right now that'll be around 5x your money. But we both know you don't really believe that.

Lopez is good, but Lomachenko is possible the greatest of ALL time.

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February 06, 2020, 11:25:42 PM
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That's exactly what's in my mind now, if Loma would be a heacvy favorite I would like that because this would give better betting odds on his opponent.
As a gambler, we don't bet on the favorites all the time, we also consider an upset especially when the odds are very tempting.

Per round winner always have good odds most of the time. Although the difficulty was much higher compared to Moneyline still it's worth to give a try.

Put also the live betting on your options. I see great odds movement every per round that's why to be able to bet fast, users should always have extra funds on their sports betting account.

However, this requires live coverage since even how fast the update on the betting site, we should also have a live feed on our side.
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February 07, 2020, 12:07:23 AM
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Lmao, come on bro.

Lopez is going to get completely destroyed, it's completely obvious.

Have you seen Lomachenkos pro record, or his amateur record? Come on dude LMAO. The guy is a prodigy in the sport of boxing.

If you really believe what you say, put a big bet on Lopez to win, right now that'll be around 5x your money. But we both know you don't really believe that.

Lopez is good, but Lomachenko is possible the greatest of ALL time.
Don't get me wrong mate, I'm also a fan of Lomachenko but I think underestimating his opponent this time is not good Grin. Though Teofimo is newer in the world of boxing I can say that he's not a joke either. He got a record of 15 and O, with 12 KOs Shocked. And you know what, it's also impressive to watch how he easily knockout his opponents. So I understand if some of us here are willing to take a risk on betting in favor of him.
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Lmao, come on bro.

Lopez is going to get completely destroyed, it's completely obvious.

Have you seen Lomachenkos pro record, or his amateur record? Come on dude LMAO. The guy is a prodigy in the sport of boxing.

If you really believe what you say, put a big bet on Lopez to win, right now that'll be around 5x your money. But we both know you don't really believe that.

Lopez is good, but Lomachenko is possible the greatest of ALL time.
Don't get me wrong mate, I'm also a fan of Lomachenko but I think underestimating his opponent this time is not good Grin. Though Teofimo is newer in the world of boxing I can say that he's not a joke either. He got a record of 15 and O, with 12 KOs Shocked. And you know what, it's also impressive to watch how he easily knockout his opponents. So I understand if some of us here are willing to take a risk on betting in favor of him.

Take a look on Lomachenko's first knock down, then think for awhile.. this guy is not invincible.
His opponent is a powerful puncher so there's a chance that we will see a knock down or maybe a knock out.

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Teofimo Lopez is only 22 years of age, even though he is a good fighter and lightweight titleholder but experience does matter in boxing.
Whenever this match date is decided and it is available in sportsbooks I will bet for Lomachenko. Even if Lopez lose the match, it will be a honor for him to play against Lomachenko.
Experience will be a huge factor in this bout. One more is their opponents. Some of Loma's opponents are popular, strong and familiar for me (Rigondeaux & Linares).
In Lopez' 15 fights, 12 ended in KO (80% KO rate) which is already a sign that he is a power puncher.
I don't want to underestimate Lopez but anything can happen right now since the Ruiz-Joshua 1 fight Cheesy. Betting on Lopez right now has risk but the reward is good Cheesy.
I'd go for Loma in this fight by KO (just a prediction). Cheesy.

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Teofimo Lopez is only 22 years of age, even though he is a good fighter and lightweight titleholder but experience does matter in boxing.
Whenever this match date is decided and it is available in sportsbooks I will bet for Lomachenko. Even if Lopez lose the match, it will be a honor for him to play against Lomachenko.
Experience will be a huge factor in this bout. One more is their opponents. Some of Loma's opponents are popular, strong and familiar for me (Rigondeaux & Linares).
In Lopez' 15 fights, 12 ended in KO (80% KO rate) which is already a sign that he is a power puncher.
I don't want to underestimate Lopez but anything can happen right now since the Ruiz-Joshua 1 fight Cheesy. Betting on Lopez right now has risk but the reward is good Cheesy.
I'd go for Loma in this fight by KO (just a prediction). Cheesy.

Lopez is the hungry fighter here I see this guy punching power and it's enough to take down any boxer, and that includes Loma he has a haymaker in both hands but the biggest question is can he connect those power punch, because Loma moves so fast and he has an excellent defense, timing and power punch will the game for both fighters I go for lopez even though he is the underdog.

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Teofimo Lopez is only 22 years of age, even though he is a good fighter and lightweight titleholder but experience does matter in boxing.
Whenever this match date is decided and it is available in sportsbooks I will bet for Lomachenko. Even if Lopez lose the match, it will be a honor for him to play against Lomachenko.
Experience will be a huge factor in this bout. One more is their opponents. Some of Loma's opponents are popular, strong and familiar for me (Rigondeaux & Linares).
In Lopez' 15 fights, 12 ended in KO (80% KO rate) which is already a sign that he is a power puncher.
I don't want to underestimate Lopez but anything can happen right now since the Ruiz-Joshua 1 fight Cheesy. Betting on Lopez right now has risk but the reward is good Cheesy.
I'd go for Loma in this fight by KO (just a prediction). Cheesy.

Watching both their (Lomachengco and Lopez) fight highlights,  I can say this fight will end in a knockout and I think Lomachencko really had an advantage in this fight both in experience and quickness.  But that does not mean a guaranteed win for Lomachenko since Lopez had an arsenal of his own, power punch and good counters.  I believe this fight can go either way since we don't know who will be the first one to land the killer punch.  I would go for the underdog (Lopez) since I always love to see an upset win.

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February 07, 2020, 10:15:53 PM
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So if the boxing odds are going to be open, I'm sure that Loma will be the favourite here. But it will be good for gamblers to bet for Lopez, those who like good odds specially for live underdogs.
That's exactly what's in my mind now, if Loma would be a heacvy favorite I would like that because this would give better betting odds on his opponent.
As a gambler, we don't bet on the favorites all the time, we also consider an upset especially when the odds are very tempting.

Yeah, we really don't know what will be the outcome of the fight. Ruiz pulled one of the biggest upset in boxing last year so it's possible that Lopez can do the same here. It's safe to bet for the favourite in Loma, but you/we can also throw some small money in favour of Lopez just to make our gambling experience much better and exciting.

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February 08, 2020, 10:55:22 AM
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So if the boxing odds are going to be open, I'm sure that Loma will be the favourite here. But it will be good for gamblers to bet for Lopez, those who like good odds specially for live underdogs.
That's exactly what's in my mind now, if Loma would be a heacvy favorite I would like that because this would give better betting odds on his opponent.
As a gambler, we don't bet on the favorites all the time, we also consider an upset especially when the odds are very tempting.

Yeah, we really don't know what will be the outcome of the fight. Ruiz pulled one of the biggest upset in boxing last year so it's possible that Lopez can do the same here. It's safe to bet for the favourite in Loma, but you/we can also throw some small money in favour of Lopez just to make our gambling experience much better and exciting.

To expect two huge upsets in the space of barely a year would be crazy IMO.

If you think about it, these upsets only occur a few times every boxing generation, the odds of two occuring so close together is slim to none. Simply based on that alone, we can assume that the odds are heavily stacked against Lopez.

Regardless, it won't be a complete breeze for Loma, I expect him to get caught a few times, but it simply won't be enough from the young gun.

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So if the boxing odds are going to be open, I'm sure that Loma will be the favourite here. But it will be good for gamblers to bet for Lopez, those who like good odds specially for live underdogs.
That's exactly what's in my mind now, if Loma would be a heacvy favorite I would like that because this would give better betting odds on his opponent.
As a gambler, we don't bet on the favorites all the time, we also consider an upset especially when the odds are very tempting.

Yeah, we really don't know what will be the outcome of the fight. Ruiz pulled one of the biggest upset in boxing last year so it's possible that Lopez can do the same here. It's safe to bet for the favourite in Loma, but you/we can also throw some small money in favour of Lopez just to make our gambling experience much better and exciting.

To expect two huge upsets in the space of barely a year would be crazy IMO.

If you think about it, these upsets only occur a few times every boxing generation, the odds of two occuring so close together is slim to none. Simply based on that alone, we can assume that the odds are heavily stacked against Lopez.

Regardless, it won't be a complete breeze for Loma, I expect him to get caught a few times, but it simply won't be enough from the young gun.

People who watch and gamble at the same knows it's possible that Loma could lose because nothing is impossible in boxing.

I have witness this many times, I am a big fan of Manny Pacman and AFAIR, he got robbed two times, one against Bradly in the first fight and even the sportsbook are offering good odds for Bradly as they know Manny is likely to win but when the winner was announce, it was Bradly who won in the scorecards, 2nd is the Pacman vs Jeff Horn, I would not explain a lot about this match but if we are a boxing fan, we know Manny won that match too.
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February 08, 2020, 11:51:11 AM
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I haven't made a bet on any of the boxing matches during the last few months, but I will be making one for this match. The only issue is that the odds for Vasiliy Lomachenko are not looking that attractive. I could find 1/4 from William Hill, Paddy Power and Betfair. Teofimo Lopez is going at 11/4. I need to chose one of these two odds and I am 90% certain that I'll go with Loma (1/4).
Lomachenko is the favorite in this fight so it is fair choosing him to bet for,but dont forget about Lopez because this is a knock out puncher also mate so there are some great bout that coming this time.

Sorry but i am for Lopez on this one,we have already a deal with my friend and if Loma did not knock out Lopez in 8th round then i am the winner lol.
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February 08, 2020, 12:56:42 PM
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So if the boxing odds are going to be open, I'm sure that Loma will be the favourite here. But it will be good for gamblers to bet for Lopez, those who like good odds specially for live underdogs.
That's exactly what's in my mind now, if Loma would be a heacvy favorite I would like that because this would give better betting odds on his opponent.
As a gambler, we don't bet on the favorites all the time, we also consider an upset especially when the odds are very tempting.

Yeah, we really don't know what will be the outcome of the fight. Ruiz pulled one of the biggest upset in boxing last year so it's possible that Lopez can do the same here. It's safe to bet for the favourite in Loma, but you/we can also throw some small money in favour of Lopez just to make our gambling experience much better and exciting.

To expect two huge upsets in the space of barely a year would be crazy IMO.

If you think about it, these upsets only occur a few times every boxing generation, the odds of two occuring so close together is slim to none. Simply based on that alone, we can assume that the odds are heavily stacked against Lopez.

Regardless, it won't be a complete breeze for Loma, I expect him to get caught a few times, but it simply won't be enough from the young gun.

People who watch and gamble at the same knows it's possible that Loma could lose because nothing is impossible in boxing.

I have witness this many times, I am a big fan of Manny Pacman and AFAIR, he got robbed two times, one against Bradly in the first fight and even the sportsbook are offering good odds for Bradly as they know Manny is likely to win but when the winner was announce, it was Bradly who won in the scorecards, 2nd is the Pacman vs Jeff Horn, I would not explain a lot about this match but if we are a boxing fan, we know Manny won that match too.

How many times have you witnessed an upset of this magnitude? You mentioned twice, but realistically those weren't huge upsets they were straight up robberies.

e.g. when Anthony Joshua was trounced by Ruiz, nobody can claim that was a robbery, because AJ got knocked out cold.

However, if somebody wins a controversial decision, I wouldn't say that's an upset. That's my opinion anyway.
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However, if somebody wins a controversial decision, I wouldn't say that's an upset. That's my opinion anyway.

That is an upset regardless on how the heavy favorites loss since there's only two possibility in sports, either you lose or win.
If that is due to a bad decision by the judges, the refs, or any other factors, that would need to be investigated first but winner will be declared after the fight.

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So if the boxing odds are going to be open, I'm sure that Loma will be the favourite here. But it will be good for gamblers to bet for Lopez, those who like good odds specially for live underdogs.
That's exactly what's in my mind now, if Loma would be a heacvy favorite I would like that because this would give better betting odds on his opponent.
As a gambler, we don't bet on the favorites all the time, we also consider an upset especially when the odds are very tempting.

Yeah, we really don't know what will be the outcome of the fight. Ruiz pulled one of the biggest upset in boxing last year so it's possible that Lopez can do the same here. It's safe to bet for the favourite in Loma, but you/we can also throw some small money in favour of Lopez just to make our gambling experience much better and exciting.

To expect two huge upsets in the space of barely a year would be crazy IMO.

If you think about it, these upsets only occur a few times every boxing generation, the odds of two occuring so close together is slim to none. Simply based on that alone, we can assume that the odds are heavily stacked against Lopez.

Regardless, it won't be a complete breeze for Loma, I expect him to get caught a few times, but it simply won't be enough from the young gun.

People who watch and gamble at the same knows it's possible that Loma could lose because nothing is impossible in boxing.

I have witness this many times, I am a big fan of Manny Pacman and AFAIR, he got robbed two times, one against Bradly in the first fight and even the sportsbook are offering good odds for Bradly as they know Manny is likely to win but when the winner was announce, it was Bradly who won in the scorecards, 2nd is the Pacman vs Jeff Horn, I would not explain a lot about this match but if we are a boxing fan, we know Manny won that match too.

How many times have you witnessed an upset of this magnitude? You mentioned twice, but realistically those weren't huge upsets they were straight up robberies.

e.g. when Anthony Joshua was trounced by Ruiz, nobody can claim that was a robbery, because AJ got knocked out cold.

However, if somebody wins a controversial decision, I wouldn't say that's an upset. That's my opinion anyway.

Agree. In those couple of bouts mentioned between Manny against Bradley and Horn, they were upsetting, yes, emotionally though. But whether the bouts ended up as upsets, they did not. They ended up just like they most probably end, with Manny winning. What was upsetting was the decision which was, as mentioned, more of a robbery. Those decisions were not reflective of the winning boxers performance in those fights.

Ruiz winning over AJ was a crystal clear example of an upset.

But then, the sport has its flaws, too. It happens every once in a while. It gets unfair and dirty sometimes. The decisions were final and official. Whether those were real upsets or not does not matter now, the gamblers betting on the possible upsets have won.

But on this upcoming match between Loma and Lopez, there'll probably be no upsets.

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But on this upcoming match between Loma and Lopez, there'll probably be no upsets.

How? there's be no upset if both teams have equal chances of winning according to the betting odds, those betting odds are our basis to gauge if there is a heavy favorite or not.

According to the article. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2019/12/16/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-odds-loma-is-already-a-healthy-betting-favorite/#5f5128362cf2

Loma is the heavy favorites with the odds.
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According to Betfair, via boxing writer and betting pundit Tom Craze, Lomachenko has opened as a -400 favorite (bet $400 to win $100) while Lopez is +275 (win $275 on a $100 wager).

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February 10, 2020, 07:31:40 AM
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But on this upcoming match between Loma and Lopez, there'll probably be no upsets.

How? there's be no upset if both teams have equal chances of winning according to the betting odds, those betting odds are our basis to gauge if there is a heavy favorite or not.

According to the article. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2019/12/16/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-odds-loma-is-already-a-healthy-betting-favorite/#5f5128362cf2

Loma is the heavy favorites with the odds.
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According to Betfair, via boxing writer and betting pundit Tom Craze, Lomachenko has opened as a -400 favorite (bet $400 to win $100) while Lopez is +275 (win $275 on a $100 wager).
That odd are base with how Loma fought and with his advantage from his past experiences it's high chance for him to win, but that's not a guarantee since both fighters have equal training and both have time to condition and review there opponents capacities.
In any sports there's always favorite and underdog but who knows what will be the outcome until the final bell was there.
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February 10, 2020, 08:35:31 AM
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But on this upcoming match between Loma and Lopez, there'll probably be no upsets.

How? there's be no upset if both teams have equal chances of winning according to the betting odds, those betting odds are our basis to gauge if there is a heavy favorite or not.

According to the article. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2019/12/16/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-odds-loma-is-already-a-healthy-betting-favorite/#5f5128362cf2

Loma is the heavy favorites with the odds.
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According to Betfair, via boxing writer and betting pundit Tom Craze, Lomachenko has opened as a -400 favorite (bet $400 to win $100) while Lopez is +275 (win $275 on a $100 wager).
That odd are base with how Loma fought and with his advantage from his past experiences it's high chance for him to win, but that's not a guarantee since both fighters have equal training and both have time to condition and review there opponents capacities.
In any sports there's always favorite and underdog but who knows what will be the outcome until the final bell was there.

Of course no one knows the outcome of the game that's why there's always a thrill in betting and we are just taking the risk with out guess.
However, odds provider are not stupid to make Loma as the heavy favorites if they don't see him mostly capable of winning the fight, and I am pretty sure majority would agree that Loma should be the heavy favorites here and they will put money on it.

but they have to bet $400 just to win $100.. so if you are a better and you like Loma to win, would you bet on that odds?
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February 10, 2020, 12:34:19 PM
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But on this upcoming match between Loma and Lopez, there'll probably be no upsets.

How? there's be no upset if both teams have equal chances of winning according to the betting odds, those betting odds are our basis to gauge if there is a heavy favorite or not.

According to the article. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2019/12/16/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-odds-loma-is-already-a-healthy-betting-favorite/#5f5128362cf2

Loma is the heavy favorites with the odds.
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According to Betfair, via boxing writer and betting pundit Tom Craze, Lomachenko has opened as a -400 favorite (bet $400 to win $100) while Lopez is +275 (win $275 on a $100 wager).

I don't quite get you. What do you mean how?

I am saying there will be no upset, meaning the huge underdog Lopez won't have a slim chance to beat the heavy favorite Loma. That's just what I am saying.

If the odds are almost the same, regardless of whoever wins the match, there will be no upset. In this case, I am saying there will be no upset because Lopez does not have a chance against Loma.

But on this upcoming match between Loma and Lopez, there'll probably be no upsets.

How? there's be no upset if both teams have equal chances of winning according to the betting odds, those betting odds are our basis to gauge if there is a heavy favorite or not.

According to the article. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2019/12/16/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-odds-loma-is-already-a-healthy-betting-favorite/#5f5128362cf2

Loma is the heavy favorites with the odds.
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According to Betfair, via boxing writer and betting pundit Tom Craze, Lomachenko has opened as a -400 favorite (bet $400 to win $100) while Lopez is +275 (win $275 on a $100 wager).
That odd are base with how Loma fought and with his advantage from his past experiences it's high chance for him to win, but that's not a guarantee since both fighters have equal training and both have time to condition and review there opponents capacities.
In any sports there's always favorite and underdog but who knows what will be the outcome until the final bell was there.

Of course no one knows the outcome of the game that's why there's always a thrill in betting and we are just taking the risk with out guess.
However, odds provider are not stupid to make Loma as the heavy favorites if they don't see him mostly capable of winning the fight, and I am pretty sure majority would agree that Loma should be the heavy favorites here and they will put money on it.

but they have to bet $400 just to win $100.. so if you are a better and you like Loma to win, would you bet on that odds?

No one knows the outcome of the game but everybody has his/her own analysis and prediction. Nobody would make a bet without it.

I would definitely be betting on that odds. If you think that the odds is not that attractive, that means it is most probably the winning odds. If you go for Lopez because of higher odds, that means you are betting on a choice which is more likely to lose. At the end of the day, the odds makers are making everything directly proportional. 

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February 10, 2020, 01:20:11 PM
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But on this upcoming match between Loma and Lopez, there'll probably be no upsets.

How? there's be no upset if both teams have equal chances of winning according to the betting odds, those betting odds are our basis to gauge if there is a heavy favorite or not.

According to the article. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshkatzowitz/2019/12/16/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-odds-loma-is-already-a-healthy-betting-favorite/#5f5128362cf2

Loma is the heavy favorites with the odds.
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According to Betfair, via boxing writer and betting pundit Tom Craze, Lomachenko has opened as a -400 favorite (bet $400 to win $100) while Lopez is +275 (win $275 on a $100 wager).
That odd are base with how Loma fought and with his advantage from his past experiences it's high chance for him to win, but that's not a guarantee since both fighters have equal training and both have time to condition and review there opponents capacities.
In any sports there's always favorite and underdog but who knows what will be the outcome until the final bell was there.

Definitely the odds are base on their past performance and we all know how Loma is, very very technical boxers and a champion, actually he is holding most of the belt and obviously he is fighting to get that final belt - thus this is a unification bout.

And oddmakers really know who to set up as favourites here, its not that they are overlooking the opponent here, but Lopez is still young and might not have the experience and the tools to beat a fighter like Loma at his peak.
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This is going to be an interesting fight and could go either way Lopez has a good punching power but I have seen Loma facing a lot of hard puncher in his young career if he still has the speed and the timing he can outclass Lopez and win by a decision no way Lopez can win a decision here he should knock out Loma to win the fight.

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February 10, 2020, 05:07:43 PM
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Motormouth Teofimo Lopez is trying to provoke Loma as much as he can. Yesterday he verbally abused Loma, and claimed that his rival may have to retire soon (Lomachenko is 31 years old). BTW, is there any news on the actual dates for this fight? It was originally scheduled for April, but now it is known that there will be another 1-2 months delay. I am hoping that we'll be able to watch the fight within the next 5 months.
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February 10, 2020, 05:30:52 PM
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The fight hasn't been scheduled right? The news says it will take place in May or June.

In my opinion, since this is a 135-pound fight, Lomachenko could still handle the match comfortably. He has beaten four lightweight division boxers and only down one time versus Linares (CMIIW).

I'm a fan of Loma before he was cool since his technique is so far superior compared to other boxers I've ever seen. As long as he is not getting too cocky about his superiority, I'm pretty sure he will win all titles up to 135 pounds or maybe a bit heavier.

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Motormouth Teofimo Lopez is trying to provoke Loma as much as he can. Yesterday he verbally abused Loma, and claimed that his rival may have to retire soon (Lomachenko is 31 years old). BTW, is there any news on the actual dates for this fight? It was originally scheduled for April, but now it is known that there will be another 1-2 months delay. I am hoping that we'll be able to watch the fight within the next 5 months.
This part of promotions  really needs to create noises to gathers more viewers and fans. It's a good way of promoting the fight since there's no actual date yet, with more social medias exposures and more thrash talks to lingered around, this might bring more money for both fighters and promoters. It's been a culture since the venue of public news is very provoking and being followed by fans.
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The fight hasn't been scheduled right? The news says it will take place in May or June.

Unified WBC/WBA/WBO lightweight champion Vasyl Lomachenko of Ukraine may fight IBF champion Teofimo Lopez in the United States on May 30.

source : https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-sports/2873648-lomachenkolopez-fight-may-take-place-in-us-on-may-30.html

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Motormouth Teofimo Lopez is trying to provoke Loma as much as he can. Yesterday he verbally abused Loma, and claimed that his rival may have to retire soon (Lomachenko is 31 years old). BTW, is there any news on the actual dates for this fight? It was originally scheduled for April, but now it is known that there will be another 1-2 months delay. I am hoping that we'll be able to watch the fight within the next 5 months.
This part of promotions  really needs to create noises to gathers more viewers and fans. It's a good way of promoting the fight since there's no actual date yet, with more social medias exposures and more thrash talks to lingered around, this might bring more money for both fighters and promoters. It's been a culture since the venue of public news is very provoking and being followed by fans.
Indeed, so get used to it mate. In every sports, usuallywhere duel like this occurs, this kind of sh*t is can't be gone (in UFC you can find it as a consistent part of every main event fights — battle of egos). I'm just shocked that Teofimo can also do such dirty thing, but well that's understandable because he is the underdog between one of them thus more hungry for pride and glory. I wish him all the best, I just hope he can do his signature backflip after the fight lol Grin.
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Yeah, we really don't know what will be the outcome of the fight. Ruiz pulled one of the biggest upset in boxing last year so it's possible that Lopez can do the same here. It's safe to bet for the favourite in Loma, but you/we can also throw some small money in favour of Lopez just to make our gambling experience much better and exciting.
Fighting is anyone's game especially when you are talking about championship bout and the Andy Ruiz upset was least expected by the majority of the fans but you should not neglect the 100 of amateur fights he had in his career and i still think that Anthony Joshua underestimated Ruiz in the first fight and he was not able to control the fight and his hand speed was incredible. But Lomachenko is a different animal and Teofimo Lopez is a young fighter and so i am not expecting any upset in this fight.
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February 11, 2020, 12:01:37 PM
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But Lomachenko is a different animal and Teofimo Lopez is a young fighter and so i am not expecting any upset in this fight.

In that case you are going to bet on any of them, and I believe you'll like the betting odds of Teofimo Lopez in this fight.
Too much for Loma, he is a good fighter but it's also good to see a new champion,.. I'll call it an upset really if Teofimo Lopez would win but I might side him.
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Motormouth Teofimo Lopez is trying to provoke Loma as much as he can. Yesterday he verbally abused Loma, and claimed that his rival may have to retire soon (Lomachenko is 31 years old). BTW, is there any news on the actual dates for this fight? It was originally scheduled for April, but now it is known that there will be another 1-2 months delay. I am hoping that we'll be able to watch the fight within the next 5 months.
This part of promotions  really needs to create noises to gathers more viewers and fans. It's a good way of promoting the fight since there's no actual date yet, with more social medias exposures and more thrash talks to lingered around, this might bring more money for both fighters and promoters. It's been a culture since the venue of public news is very provoking and being followed by fans.
Indeed, so get used to it mate. In every sports, usuallywhere duel like this occurs, this kind of sh*t is can't be gone (in UFC you can find it as a consistent part of every main event fights — battle of egos). I'm just shocked that Teofimo can also do such dirty thing, but well that's understandable because he is the underdog between one of them thus more hungry for pride and glory. I wish him all the best, I just hope he can do his signature backflip after the fight lol Grin.

OK.. I understand that the fight needs promotion and perhaps that's the reason why Teofimo Lopez went on with his verbal tirade against Loma. But it doesn't leave a good taste, especially if the attack is directed at a legendary player. And I have seen similar incidents in the past as well. And every single time, I have seen the individual who begins this verbal attack losing the fight (not just in boxing, but with MMA as well).
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OK.. I understand that the fight needs promotion and perhaps that's the reason why Teofimo Lopez went on with his verbal tirade against Loma. But it doesn't leave a good taste, especially if the attack is directed at a legendary player. And I have seen similar incidents in the past as well. And every single time, I have seen the individual who begins this verbal attack losing the fight (not just in boxing, but with MMA as well).
I consider Vasyl Lomachenko the best boxer and have a superior technique and to promote the fight Teofimo Lopez is talking big fight plans on retiring a 31 year old boxer, either way i am expecting the best performance from the technician Vasyl Lomachenko and i wont be surprised if he schools the young Lopez as he have done to many world class fighters in the past.
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OK.. I understand that the fight needs promotion and perhaps that's the reason why Teofimo Lopez went on with his verbal tirade against Loma. But it doesn't leave a good taste, especially if the attack is directed at a legendary player. And I have seen similar incidents in the past as well. And every single time, I have seen the individual who begins this verbal attack losing the fight (not just in boxing, but with MMA as well).
I consider Vasyl Lomachenko the best boxer and have a superior technique and to promote the fight Teofimo Lopez is talking big fight plans on retiring a 31 year old boxer, either way i am expecting the best performance from the technician Vasyl Lomachenko and i wont be surprised if he schools the young Lopez as he have done to many world class fighters in the past.
We will see, but this fight looks like a good match up for both as they are both undefeated and basically knock out artists.
I haven't seen a good fight for Loma for awhile and although this guy is really exciting to watch but at least sometimes I also like to see him struggle a bit.

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OK.. I understand that the fight needs promotion and perhaps that's the reason why Teofimo Lopez went on with his verbal tirade against Loma. But it doesn't leave a good taste, especially if the attack is directed at a legendary player.
Legendary? Don't be hasty dude Grin. Don't get me wrong, Lomachenko is one of the best in his division but saying that he's a legendary already is too much. He still young and there's a lot of of things he must achieve first before getting proclaimed as one of the greatest Smiley.
And I have seen similar incidents in the past as well. And every single time, I have seen the individual who begins this verbal attack losing the fight (not just in boxing, but with MMA as well).
Yeah! Sometimes the humble fighters win in the end simply because the focus is there. Their presence of mind in the fight are intact (unless they're ill-tempered) unlike to those players who keep on taunting their opponents. But let's admit, getting cocky sometimes works but not all the time of course (e.g. Mayorga and McGregor) Grin.
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February 11, 2020, 02:14:46 PM
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OK.. I understand that the fight needs promotion and perhaps that's the reason why Teofimo Lopez went on with his verbal tirade against Loma. But it doesn't leave a good taste, especially if the attack is directed at a legendary player.
Legendary? Don't be hasty dude Grin. Don't get me wrong, Lomachenko is one of the best in his division but saying that he's a legendary already is too much. He still young and there's a lot of of things he must achieve first before getting proclaimed as one of the greatest Smiley.
And I have seen similar incidents in the past as well. And every single time, I have seen the individual who begins this verbal attack losing the fight (not just in boxing, but with MMA as well).
Yeah! Sometimes the humble fighters win in the end simply because the focus is there. Their presence of mind in the fight are intact (unless they're ill-tempered) unlike to those players who keep on taunting their opponents. But let's admit, getting cocky sometimes works but not all the time of course (e.g. Mayorga and McGregor) Grin.

Well... perhaps I went a bit overboard. I agree that Lomachenko can't be compared to boxers such as Pacquiao and Klitschko. He will become a legend like them, but it is going to take a few more years. The message that I wanted to convey is that Lopez should show some respect to Lomachenko. He is much more experienced than him, and he has more achievements to his name. And no one is going to misinterpret the respect shown towards the rival as a sign of weakness. 
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The unification fight between Loma and Lopes is sure to take place, they are just finalizing the date and the venue.
Loma will once again be tested with this young and taller Lopez.

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Odds for this fight is not out as there is no final date of the fight yet.

What do you think of this fight guys?

As far as I know, the fight between that two boxers may take place in the U.S on May 30.
This is the awaited fight for me because I want to watch again to fight Teofimo Lopez, its been too long since I've watched his last match with a 32 years old Richard Commey last year of December 14, after that fight, Lomachenko Vasyl joined him in the ring and took some photo with Lopez, and doing that thing is such an excellent sport characteristic of a boxer. Teofimo Lopez has a record of (15-0, 12 KO) and that standing is so fantastic he is still undefeated, let's see if he can maintain that standing until the end. However, we can't underestimate a 31-year-old Lomachenko Vasyl (14-1, 10 KO) because, as of his age, he is a great boxer too with his ability to maintain his balance while having excellent footwork while fighting. Well, let us see what will happen, does the undefeated Teofimo Lopez would be still undefeated or Lomachenko Vasyl will break that unbeaten record.
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Well... perhaps I went a bit overboard. I agree that Lomachenko can't be compared to boxers such as Pacquiao and Klitschko.
Now those are the real legendaries Cheesy. I just feel bad for Klitschko because I can feel that he is now near on the sunset of his career Sad.
The message that I wanted to convey is that Lopez should show some respect to Lomachenko. He is much more experienced than him, and he has more achievements to his name. And no one is going to misinterpret the respect shown towards the rival as a sign of weakness.  
Well we can do nothing with regards to that aspect mate, this thing depends to themselves. It's up to whether they like to treat their opponents properly or not, we can't please them to behave like a child. I guess what we can do is to trust how karma works Smiley for sure they will realize their bad deeds in the end. Maybe a single, two or three losses won't change them but for sure in the end of time, they will.  
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Well... perhaps I went a bit overboard. I agree that Lomachenko can't be compared to boxers such as Pacquiao and Klitschko.
Now those are the real legendaries Cheesy. I just feel bad for Klitschko because I can feel that he is now near on the sunset of his career Sad.
The message that I wanted to convey is that Lopez should show some respect to Lomachenko. He is much more experienced than him, and he has more achievements to his name. And no one is going to misinterpret the respect shown towards the rival as a sign of weakness.  
Well we can do nothing with regards to that aspect mate, this thing depends to themselves. It's up to whether they like to treat their opponents properly or not, we can't please them to behave like a child. I guess what we can do is to trust how karma works Smiley for sure they will realize their bad deeds in the end. Maybe a single, two or three losses won't change them but for sure in the end of time, they will.  
Don't be too bothered about any shit talk outside the ring because the real talks happen inside the right, besides after this fight, the shit talks will be gone unless this ends up a close decision in the judges scorecard and one is aiming for a rematch, actually, shit talks does adds more value to a fight as its been an effective way of marketing.

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February 16, 2020, 11:32:16 PM
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Looks like these two will agree a fight date shortly;

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-sports/2876402-lomachenko-lopez-to-agree-on-fight-by-end-of-next-week.html

Some places are already listing it as May 20, 2020. Not sure if this is official yet.





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Looks like these two will agree a fight date shortly;

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-sports/2876402-lomachenko-lopez-to-agree-on-fight-by-end-of-next-week.html

Some places are already listing it as May 20, 2020. Not sure if this is official yet.

It's a new article so probably this is the latest update, and hopefully this is the final date so fans would stop speculating.
With this, we can expect that we will see a great fight as it gives both fighters an ample time to prepare and be on their best fit going to this fight.

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It's September 19 guys!
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2898418-vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-title-fight-set-for-sept-19-per-bob-arum

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Good, Lopez has been calling out Lomachenko so this his the fight that he wanted and so be it.But we all know that technical Loma is, and I would agree that he is one of the best technical boxers we have witnessed in the last 10 years. I say he will still be the favourite despite Lopez being an upcoming and very young prospect. And it will be another big test for Loma to show his boxing skills again cementing him as p4p.

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Good, Lopez has been calling out Lomachenko so this his the fight that he wanted and so be it.But we all know that technical Loma is, and I would agree that he is one of the best technical boxers we have witnessed in the last 10 years. I say he will still be the favourite despite Lopez being an upcoming and very young prospect. And it will be another big test for Loma to show his boxing skills again cementing him as p4p.

There's not final set up yet.

According to what mu_enrico shared, in the article it says.

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There is still plenty that needs to be worked out regarding the fight, including where it will occur and whether fans will be able to attend.

So it will be decided first if there will be crowd, but if the fight will be held in the US, I doubt it will be allowed.

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I just check now if the betting odds are already available, but unfortunately it's not listed i my sportbook, maybe they are waiting to finalize the venue first before the odds will be live. Anyway, just share the odds guys if you find a book that's offering this fight already.

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I just check now if the betting odds are already available, but unfortunately it's not listed i my sportbook, maybe they are waiting to finalize the venue first before the odds will be live. Anyway, just share the odds guys if you find a book that's offering this fight already.

It will likely to come out after the venue is finalized if there's one of the fights that you wished boxing fans should not happen in the time of Pandemic is this fight Lomachecko against Lopez it's a unification bout between two great lightweight champions and they both have contrasting style, the outcome will be interesting and fans want to be close to the fight when it happen but unfortunately they can't.

Maybe not yet available in sportsbook now but we already have that odds before, here's an article from https://www.oddsshark.com/ posted last January this year. https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/lomachenko-lopez-odds-analysis



As you can see,  it's just a prediction of odds and you can also read their prediction on who will win.

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I just check now if the betting odds are already available, but unfortunately it's not listed i my sportbook, maybe they are waiting to finalize the venue first before the odds will be live. Anyway, just share the odds guys if you find a book that's offering this fight already.

It will likely to come out after the venue is finalized if there's one of the fights that you wished boxing fans should not happen in the time of Pandemic is this fight Lomachecko against Lopez it's a unification bout between two great lightweight champions and they both have contrasting style, the outcome will be interesting and fans want to be close to the fight when it happen but unfortunately they can't.

Maybe not yet available in sportsbook now but we already have that odds before, here's an article from https://www.oddsshark.com/ posted last January this year. https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/lomachenko-lopez-odds-analysis



As you can see,  it's just a prediction of odds and you can also read their prediction on who will win.

Thanks for sharing the possible odds man, that odds of Teofimo Lopez seems very interesting, for an underdog, I believe there's a good value on it since this guy is younger and might give some good challenge to the champion.

I checked his record - https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/776269..

Looks like the kid has some power, but I know Loma is really good but I think taking chances is not bad as upset happens in boxing.

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Looks like the kid has some power, but I know Loma is really good but I think taking chances is not bad as upset happens in boxing.
If it was any other fighter i would like to take the underdog but it is Vasyl Lomachenko and his skills says it all, anyone can be knocked out but to defeat him without cheating is impossible unless he gets a freak injury during the fight, Teófimo López is a knockout fighter himself and the way in which he won the IBF lightweight title was impressive but i am going with NO MAS.
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There's not final set up yet.
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So it will be decided first if there will be crowd, but if the fight will be held in the US, I doubt it will be allowed.
Yeah, but the paragraph below it, Arum -the manly alpha male- said:
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"In talking with Lomachenko and Lopez, neither of them want an interim fight. So we would plan to do that in September, with or without an audience."
It's a manly statement don't you think?

But we all know that technical Loma is, and I would agree that he is one of the best technical boxers we have witnessed in the last 10 years.
I can't recall fighters QUIT other than the De La Hoya vs Pacquiao fight. Well, the Golden Boy had been turned into Chinese when that happened, so it didn't count.

But Loma made four fighters QUIT (RTD).

i am going with NO MAS.
Me too!

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July 15, 2020, 06:56:52 PM
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There's no chance that Lomachenko is going to fight Lopez without an audience unless both fighters are willing to take a serious purse cut. The gate is one of the biggest revenue streams for prize fighters like Loma, and although online streams will likely make up for it somewhat, I doubt it will cover the loss.

Everyone wants to fight Loma simply because it's a money fight, not sure Teofimo will want it given that he's not going to rack up as much cash as he would if he just delays it a few months.

I think Loma will probably fight some scrub whose willing to take a smaller payday just to get rekt in front of no audience, and then they'll build up the hype for the Lopez fight for Q4 2020 or Q1 2021.

Loma is going to make a mockery of Lopez, but he does still have a punchers chance.
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July 15, 2020, 09:40:07 PM
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There's no chance that Lomachenko is going to fight Lopez without an audience unless both fighters are willing to take a serious purse cut. The gate is one of the biggest revenue streams for prize fighters like Loma, and although online streams will likely make up for it somewhat, I doubt it will cover the loss.

Everyone wants to fight Loma simply because it's a money fight, not sure Teofimo will want it given that he's not going to rack up as much cash as he would if he just delays it a few months.

I think Loma will probably fight some scrub whose willing to take a smaller payday just to get rekt in front of no audience, and then they'll build up the hype for the Lopez fight for Q4 2020 or Q1 2021.

Loma is going to make a mockery of Lopez, but he does still have a punchers chance.

When it comes to skill and punching power then i can say "Loma all the way" and i agree into your points that there would be lots of things to be first considered before this match would be finalized.
They are much pretty aware on that purse cut since we are on the different set-up of things due to pandemic and one is that having no audience on where these events do milk out money the most.
Odds for lopez shown above isnt bad either and i might consider on putting up some pennies with the guy. Upsets can indeed happen from time to time but it is unlikely to happen in this fight!

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July 15, 2020, 10:35:36 PM
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There's no chance that Lomachenko is going to fight Lopez without an audience unless both fighters are willing to take a serious purse cut. The gate is one of the biggest revenue streams for prize fighters like Loma, and although online streams will likely make up for it somewhat, I doubt it will cover the loss.

Or unless their managers or boxing promoters are willing to take the chance to also have their profit cut in half.

Everyone wants to fight Loma simply because it's a money fight, not sure Teofimo will want it given that he's not going to rack up as much cash as he would if he just delays it a few months.

He is the cash cow right now in the lower weights division.

I think Loma will probably fight some scrub whose willing to take a smaller payday just to get rekt in front of no audience, and then they'll build up the hype for the Lopez fight for Q4 2020 or Q1 2021.

Loma is going to make a mockery of Lopez, but he does still have a punchers chance.

We will see, but I agree that he will toy with this kid.

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July 15, 2020, 10:37:10 PM
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There's no chance that Lomachenko is going to fight Lopez without an audience unless both fighters are willing to take a serious purse cut. The gate is one of the biggest revenue streams for prize fighters like Loma, and although online streams will likely make up for it somewhat, I doubt it will cover the loss.

But with the statement of Arum posted above that this fight will push through with or without a crowd, that means that the camp of both fighters are fully aware that this fight would generate less money for them.

Loma is going to make a mockery of Lopez, but he does still have a punchers chance.

This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next  Smiley. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.
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July 15, 2020, 11:04:56 PM
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Loma is going to make a mockery of Lopez, but he does still have a punchers chance.

This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next  Smiley. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.
We never know, at age 32 though it looks old at that age but we have Manny who still fights at 40, and Loma is just focus on his division so I think if he has a good conditioning, he can still have more fights, not necessarily that he wins it all.

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This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next  Smiley. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.
Lomachenko only has a couple of fights before he retires, not heard him mentioning retirement and he is out here to prove that he is the best boxer ever in the history of boxing and he is collecting belts and he has to maintain this level for the next 3 years before he calls it a day rather than fighting two more fights and expect everyone to consider him the greatest is not that easy and for that he needs to have good rivals and he will get that in higher weight divisions.
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July 15, 2020, 11:14:20 PM
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Loma is going to make a mockery of Lopez, but he does still have a punchers chance.

This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next  Smiley. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.
We never know, at age 32 though it looks old at that age but we have Manny who still fights at 40, and Loma is just focus on his division so I think if he has a good conditioning, he can still have more fights, not necessarily that he wins it all.
It's hard for Loma to replicate Pacman's achievement as the guy is a Legendary already but Loma if he has the discipline like Manny, he can still fight even at that age and can still beat the younger fighter, actually, Loma is a sensational boxer that's why he gained a lot of fans, so selling his fight should not be a problem and he can continue to make money as long as he continues to take care of himself.

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July 15, 2020, 11:19:43 PM
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This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next  Smiley. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.
Lomachenko only has a couple of fights before he retires, not heard him mentioning retirement and he is out here to prove that he is the best boxer ever in the history of boxing and he is collecting belts and he has to maintain this level for the next 3 years before he calls it a day rather than fighting two more fights and expect everyone to consider him the greatest is not that easy and for that he needs to have good rivals and he will get that in higher weight divisions.

Before the Campbell fight, he floated that idea of retirement as he don't want to fight at 40 if i'm not mistaken. BTW here is a new article talking about a Loma retirement.

https://www.fightsports.tv/loma-wants-davis-unification-then-retirement/

But then again, it's not definite. 
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July 15, 2020, 11:35:28 PM
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This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next  Smiley. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.
Lomachenko only has a couple of fights before he retires, not heard him mentioning retirement and he is out here to prove that he is the best boxer ever in the history of boxing and he is collecting belts and he has to maintain this level for the next 3 years before he calls it a day rather than fighting two more fights and expect everyone to consider him the greatest is not that easy and for that he needs to have good rivals and he will get that in higher weight divisions.

Before the Campbell fight, he floated that idea of retirement as he don't want to fight at 40 if i'm not mistaken. BTW here is a new article talking about a Loma retirement.

https://www.fightsports.tv/loma-wants-davis-unification-then-retirement/

But then again, it's not definite. 

Honestly, I don't really believe on boxers about the word retirement as money is very tempting. If we have followed Floyd Mayweather, he has retired but still came back in boxing, the love of the sports and the money is always their, so for me, Loma will only be retired if he is officially retired.

Look how popular he is, per espn, he is the number 1 P4P, so he is a superstar, why retire too early.

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July 15, 2020, 11:53:43 PM
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This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next  Smiley. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.
Lomachenko only has a couple of fights before he retires, not heard him mentioning retirement and he is out here to prove that he is the best boxer ever in the history of boxing and he is collecting belts and he has to maintain this level for the next 3 years before he calls it a day rather than fighting two more fights and expect everyone to consider him the greatest is not that easy and for that he needs to have good rivals and he will get that in higher weight divisions.

Before the Campbell fight, he floated that idea of retirement as he don't want to fight at 40 if i'm not mistaken. BTW here is a new article talking about a Loma retirement.

https://www.fightsports.tv/loma-wants-davis-unification-then-retirement/

But then again, it's not definite. 

Honestly, I don't really believe on boxers about the word retirement as money is very tempting. If we have followed Floyd Mayweather, he has retired but still came back in boxing, the love of the sports and the money is always their, so for me, Loma will only be retired if he is officially retired.

Look how popular he is, per espn, he is the number 1 P4P, so he is a superstar, why retire too early.

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This is so true and i do rather see this generally as a business rather than a sport.  Cheesy No one in the right mind would really reject fights that will fill out their pockets and

on the current popularity of Lomanchenko its too early to say or this guy doesnt even know the word "retirement". He can still fight and make some money.

Is this Lomachenko vs Lopez had been finalized?

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July 16, 2020, 01:36:26 AM
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The Lomachenko versus Lopez fighting schedule is scheduled for May 30 at Madison Square Garden, New York, which has to be postponed
due to the spread corona virus. Finally retreated until September 19, but Bob Arum again announced the fighting over Lomachenko versus
Lopez there is a possibility of being postponed again until October 3 and hopes to be held in Las Vegas. So until now I am still confused,
the exact schedule of Lomachenko versus Lopez's battle. Let's wait for the official new updates, which are definitely the two top rank boxers
this is awaited by boxing fans all over the world. I, as a Lomachenko fan, hope he can defeat Lopez.

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He will certainly be able to beat Lopez but has been postponed for some time due to the virus. Boxing is the first fight between two athletes held in the ring. The boxing should be in special soft gloves weighing 8 ounces about 227 grams hitting the opponent's head and body in front and side.

Oliver Kirk USA is the only boxer to have won two Olympic champion gold medals in the same event  the third Olympic Games in the featherweight and lightweight division in 1984 Under the rules of these years a boxer was allowed to compete in two adjacent weight categories together provided that his weight did not exceed that. Now this rule does not exist and the credit of O Kirk will remain the only one.

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July 16, 2020, 06:20:28 AM
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Just sharing this youtube video of Lomachenko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJnY8ECXTyQ

Its a beauty to watch how Lomachenko fight and what kind of training he did. Started at a very young age at 4 years old, and with his father's guidance, everything is paying off for him. Hard not to see him winning against Lopez as he is "Hi-Tech".

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July 16, 2020, 06:48:39 AM
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Just sharing this youtube video of Lomachenko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJnY8ECXTyQ

Its a beauty to watch how Lomachenko fight and what kind of training he did. Started at a very young age at 4 years old, and with his father's guidance, everything is paying off for him. Hard not to see him winning against Lopez as he is "Hi-Tech".

I have watched some of his fights and I consider him to be one of the best fighters of this generation, I expect a win against Lopez but he should be careful on the Lopez's punch he is a counter puncher and can knock opponents out with one solid punch, but the one fight I'd like to see is the Ryan Garcia fight Garcia is blazing through greatness right now and I believe Lomachenko is the one fighter that can stop him.

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July 16, 2020, 10:40:14 AM
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Just sharing this youtube video of Lomachenko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJnY8ECXTyQ

Its a beauty to watch how Lomachenko fight and what kind of training he did. Started at a very young age at 4 years old, and with his father's guidance, everything is paying off for him. Hard not to see him winning against Lopez as he is "Hi-Tech".

Thanks for sharing, The man is really amazing and the way he fight the dominance are there, very quick hands and the aimed
or reached really pointing to the directions that he wanted to land the punch, seems
that seeing Pacman's punch where the opponents unexpectedly coming, there are
many fighter but the style and quickness of throwing punches that's really a talent
that keeps on developing inside you.
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July 16, 2020, 01:25:20 PM
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But with the statement of Arum posted above that this fight will push through with or without a crowd, that means that the camp of both fighters are fully aware that this fight would generate less money for them.

With that statement, they don't really care if they only make less profit in this fight. what important here is the two will gonna have the chance to prove who will be the great fighter in the ring. This is not an easy fight for both fighters because both of them have some good records. Anyway, no matter what will the result of this fight, I hope this will be the last boxing fight with no audience because this is one of the sports they really need some cheers n the crowd to make the fighters hype.

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July 16, 2020, 02:25:00 PM
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The theme for this bout is once again "youth vs experience".

This is the ultimate goal of Loma, to unify all the belt in the Lightweight division before he retire.

This would be an easy fight for him i supposed.

Im hoping for him to fight much more popular boxers like The tank or manny pacquiao before retiring. It would be a waste if he just retire like that. Especially when manny is looking for opponents right now, if ever they fight it would go down in history as one of the best top boxers of the world competiting against each other.

Like you said, this fight is easy. So its better to pick fighters at his level.

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But with the statement of Arum posted above that this fight will push through with or without a crowd, that means that the camp of both fighters are fully aware that this fight would generate less money for them.

With that statement, they don't really care if they only make less profit in this fight. what important here is the two will gonna have the chance to prove who will be the great fighter in the ring. This is not an easy fight for both fighters because both of them have some good records. Anyway, no matter what will the result of this fight, I hope this will be the last boxing fight with no audience because this is one of the sports they really need some cheers n the crowd to make the fighters hype.

They don't really care if they only make lesser profit. What they care is that they make money. That is the primary goal of Arum and other promoters. It is not their goal to prove who is greater than whom. It is not even their goal to let the fighters continue to fight despite covid. Their goal is to find a way to earn in the middle of covid.
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But with the statement of Arum posted above that this fight will push through with or without a crowd, that means that the camp of both fighters are fully aware that this fight would generate less money for them.

With that statement, they don't really care if they only make less profit in this fight. what important here is the two will gonna have the chance to prove who will be the great fighter in the ring. This is not an easy fight for both fighters because both of them have some good records. Anyway, no matter what will the result of this fight, I hope this will be the last boxing fight with no audience because this is one of the sports they really need some cheers n the crowd to make the fighters hype.

They don't really care if they only make lesser profit. What they care is that they make money. That is the primary goal of Arum and other promoters. It is not their goal to prove who is greater than whom. It is not even their goal to let the fighters continue to fight despite covid. Their goal is to find a way to earn in the middle of covid.

Arum might have underestimated the power of PPV, these two fighters are going the fans a good fight to see, so I guess even if they'll increase the PPV subscription, a lot of people would still be interested watching the fight, including me of course.

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July 16, 2020, 09:57:17 PM
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But with the statement of Arum posted above that this fight will push through with or without a crowd, that means that the camp of both fighters are fully aware that this fight would generate less money for them.

With that statement, they don't really care if they only make less profit in this fight. what important here is the two will gonna have the chance to prove who will be the great fighter in the ring. This is not an easy fight for both fighters because both of them have some good records. Anyway, no matter what will the result of this fight, I hope this will be the last boxing fight with no audience because this is one of the sports they really need some cheers n the crowd to make the fighters hype.

They don't really care if they only make lesser profit. What they care is that they make money. That is the primary goal of Arum and other promoters. It is not their goal to prove who is greater than whom. It is not even their goal to let the fighters continue to fight despite covid. Their goal is to find a way to earn in the middle of covid.

Arum might have underestimated the power of PPV, these two fighters are going the fans a good fight to see, so I guess even if they'll increase the PPV subscription, a lot of people would still be interested watching the fight, including me of course.
It might not really be the same if we do compare it off with actual stadium ticket sales or physical venues out there but doesnt mean that PPV would really be underestimated when it comes to generated amount.
Pretty sure that they will set out higher than usual price because of the current pandemic situation we are in but they should set it out on where the public or masses wont complaint about.When it comes to interest
then its still their and its just normal for promoters to aim on making money since this had been already a business since from the start. No matter which method they do make use as long it would resume out
then money would follow along the way.

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July 16, 2020, 10:05:41 PM
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There's no chance that Lomachenko is going to fight Lopez without an audience unless both fighters are willing to take a serious purse cut. The gate is one of the biggest revenue streams for prize fighters like Loma, and although online streams will likely make up for it somewhat, I doubt it will cover the loss.

Or unless their managers or boxing promoters are willing to take the chance to also have their profit cut in half.

Everyone wants to fight Loma simply because it's a money fight, not sure Teofimo will want it given that he's not going to rack up as much cash as he would if he just delays it a few months.

He is the cash cow right now in the lower weights division.

I think Loma will probably fight some scrub whose willing to take a smaller payday just to get rekt in front of no audience, and then they'll build up the hype for the Lopez fight for Q4 2020 or Q1 2021.

Loma is going to make a mockery of Lopez, but he does still have a punchers chance.

We will see, but I agree that he will toy with this kid.

Trainers and promoters usually take a 10% purse cut each MAX. I think even if they earned $0, the fighters still wouldn't be looking to fight when the purse cut is likely to be around 50% or more. As far as I'm aware live tickets bring in more than half of the total revenue.

Lopez better hope that Lomachenko catches COVID19 and it fucks his lung capacity, that's about the only way he stands anything more than a puncher's chance.
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This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next  Smiley. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.
Lomachenko only has a couple of fights before he retires, not heard him mentioning retirement and he is out here to prove that he is the best boxer ever in the history of boxing and he is collecting belts and he has to maintain this level for the next 3 years before he calls it a day rather than fighting two more fights and expect everyone to consider him the greatest is not that easy and for that he needs to have good rivals and he will get that in higher weight divisions.

Before the Campbell fight, he floated that idea of retirement as he don't want to fight at 40 if i'm not mistaken. BTW here is a new article talking about a Loma retirement.

https://www.fightsports.tv/loma-wants-davis-unification-then-retirement/

But then again, it's not definite. 

Honestly, I don't really believe on boxers about the word retirement as money is very tempting. If we have followed Floyd Mayweather, he has retired but still came back in boxing, the love of the sports and the money is always their, so for me, Loma will only be retired if he is officially retired.

Look how popular he is, per espn, he is the number 1 P4P, so he is a superstar, why retire too early.

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This is so true and i do rather see this generally as a business rather than a sport.  Cheesy No one in the right mind would really reject fights that will fill out their pockets and

on the current popularity of Lomanchenko its too early to say or this guy doesnt even know the word "retirement". He can still fight and make some money.

Is this Lomachenko vs Lopez had been finalized?

There are a lot of popular boxers right now, young and has a good record, for example, Terence Crawford, he is an undefeated fighter, he could challenge someone that is young like Thurman or any boxer that could match him, but why would he like Manny? I am not saying Manny can't win but actually this guy's purpose is just some popularity as anyone who fight Manny makes money.

Terence Crawford still wants Manny Pacquiao, but not sure fight can be made

In the end, it's the promoter who decides the fight for a fighter, a fighter is just a warrior, he should not choose.

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Im hoping for him to fight much more popular boxers like The tank or manny pacquiao before retiring. It would be a waste if he just retire like that. Especially when manny is looking for opponents right now, if ever they fight it would go down in history as one of the best top boxers of the world competiting against each other.

Like you said, this fight is easy. So its better to pick fighters at his level.

Loma vs Pacman won't happen IMO because Loma is fighting 3 2 division south of 147lbs which Manny is campaigning and this time in their career i think catch weight is not advisable.

Loma vs Davis or Loma vs Garcia would be explosive but Loma needs to focus first on Lopez and not take him for granted. In boxing, it would be stupid to think that you are going to an easy fight as there's no such thing as an easy fight.
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July 17, 2020, 02:31:06 AM
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Holysh*t Pacman again?! That guy has done so much in his boxing career. Let him retired in peace Grin
He still can do charity/exhibition match though, but not a serious one.

Anyways, I don't think Loma can go up two weight divisions again as he is too short https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-Uz4QWnS4

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July 17, 2020, 03:42:01 AM
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But with the statement of Arum posted above that this fight will push through with or without a crowd, that means that the camp of both fighters are fully aware that this fight would generate less money for them.

With that statement, they don't really care if they only make less profit in this fight. what important here is the two will gonna have the chance to prove who will be the great fighter in the ring. This is not an easy fight for both fighters because both of them have some good records. Anyway, no matter what will the result of this fight, I hope this will be the last boxing fight with no audience because this is one of the sports they really need some cheers n the crowd to make the fighters hype.

They don't really care if they only make lesser profit. What they care is that they make money. That is the primary goal of Arum and other promoters. It is not their goal to prove who is greater than whom. It is not even their goal to let the fighters continue to fight despite covid. Their goal is to find a way to earn in the middle of covid.

Arum might have underestimated the power of PPV, these two fighters are going the fans a good fight to see, so I guess even if they'll increase the PPV subscription, a lot of people would still be interested watching the fight, including me of course.

No, Arum knows there is money in PPV but he knows all too well that there is so much more money if PPV is combined with live audience. Making money out of fights is what Arum's life is all about.

The fight is worth watching of course. So whether there is live audience or not shouldn't matter for as long as the fight pushes through with both fighters at their best of shapes.
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No, Arum knows there is money in PPV but he knows all too well that there is so much more money if PPV is combined with live audience. Making money out of fights is what Arum's life is all about.
Based on experience yes, but this time it can't be possible that there will be audience as this fight will take place this year
So probably we will just see if the result is good because it could be a gauge for the promoter on how to treat the upcoming promotions by him.

if this one would be successful mostly due to PPV, then who knows the Fury vs Wilder might may come soon.

The fight is worth watching of course. So whether there is live audience or not shouldn't matter for as long as the fight pushes through with both fighters at their best of shapes.

Watching this fight, I swear, any fight of LOMA, I'm always ready to watch.

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Holysh*t Pacman again?! That guy has done so much in his boxing career. Let him retired in peace Grin
He still can do charity/exhibition match though, but not a serious one.

Anyways, I don't think Loma can go up two weight divisions again as he is too short https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB-Uz4QWnS4

They could always meet in the middle. I wouldn't be surprised if Pacman doesn't just take up one last fight with this era's greatest, just to see if he's still got it in him.

He already got smashed by TBE (Mayweather), he probably wants another shot at greatness, rather than just knocking over the tincans he's currently fighting.

It would be a huge money fight for both of them, and it would be competitive too—skills vs size. Loma would ruin him though let's be honest.
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July 17, 2020, 10:03:50 PM
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I imagine you know a lot about Vasiliy Lomachenko, the World's Best Pound-for-Pound Boxer. He is a great professional who is trained with a lot of discipline that has allowed him to win his current title.
I am so fascinated to know how he has built his boxing career.
"Being an athlete is a 24-7-365 job."

https://www.gq.com/story/vasiliy-lomachenko-real-life-diet/amp

Pay per view, of course, will generate a good income for the organizers and the necessary measure to carry out the events and be able to offer it to the public.
Lomachenko vs Lopez great fight expected by all.

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July 17, 2020, 11:25:46 PM
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Im hoping for him to fight much more popular boxers like The tank or manny pacquiao before retiring. It would be a waste if he just retire like that. Especially when manny is looking for opponents right now, if ever they fight it would go down in history as one of the best top boxers of the world competiting against each other.

Like you said, this fight is easy. So its better to pick fighters at his level.

Loma vs Pacman won't happen IMO because Loma is fighting 3 2 division south of 147lbs which Manny is campaigning and this time in their career i think catch weight is not advisable.

Loma vs Davis or Loma vs Garcia would be explosive but Loma needs to focus first on Lopez and not take him for granted. In boxing, it would be stupid to think that you are going to an easy fight as there's no such thing as an easy fight.

This is one fantasy fights, Loma vs Pacman, not in welter but in the 130-135 lbs division.  Grin

If ever Loma gets past Lopez here, I would like to see him against Davis. Loma is no stranger to fast hands fighter, he destroys Gary Russell Jr in his prime, both has speed. So Loma can adjust as well regardless on who he is going to face, including taller and more defensive fighter.

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This could be the scenario but still anything could happen as i think that Lopez is no pushover but i love to see Loma wins so he could fight Ryan Garcia next  Smiley. Loma only has a couple of fights before he retires.
Lomachenko only has a couple of fights before he retires, not heard him mentioning retirement and he is out here to prove that he is the best boxer ever in the history of boxing and he is collecting belts and he has to maintain this level for the next 3 years before he calls it a day rather than fighting two more fights and expect everyone to consider him the greatest is not that easy and for that he needs to have good rivals and he will get that in higher weight divisions.

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There are a lot of popular boxers right now, young and has a good record, for example, Terence Crawford, he is an undefeated fighter, he could challenge someone that is young like Thurman or any boxer that could match him, but why would he like Manny? I am not saying Manny can't win but actually this guy's purpose is just some popularity as anyone who fight Manny makes money.

Terence Crawford still wants Manny Pacquiao, but not sure fight can be made

In the end, it's the promoter who decides the fight for a fighter, a fighter is just a warrior, he should not choose.

Pacquiao vs Crawford? that would be huge but i doubt that this one would really be a tough fight for him but this is much better option rather than he forces to increase its weight to fight for GGG which i do see a really
big disadvantage for him but well its a risky shot since he would really aim for that 9th division.

It would really all matter with the promoter and they do match up fights that will really generate some big money and of course it would really be need to be mixed up with some hype.  Cheesy

Back on topic that this fight will be favor in Loma without any doubts!

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July 18, 2020, 03:01:16 AM
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Pacquiao vs Crawford? that would be huge but i doubt that this one would really be a tough fight for him but this is much better option rather than he forces to increase its weight to fight for GGG which i do see a really
big disadvantage for him but well its a risky shot since he would really aim for that 9th division.
They say GGG is too big for Manny, but I doubt Manny here would just allow GGG to beat him, once they call a player, they know what they are doing and Manny proven us many times in the past, even proven us wrong with fights that we almost thought he had no chance of winning but ended up with a KO/TKO win by him.

It would really all matter with the promoter and they do match up fights that will really generate some big money and of course it would really be need to be mixed up with some hype.  Cheesy

Back on topic that this fight will be favor in Loma without any doubts!

The line says at all, we can only choose which boxer we like, but of course many would back Loma to win here since he is the most popular, the better boxer in the eyes of the money though he is not getting any younger.

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July 18, 2020, 03:26:50 AM
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Loma vs Pacman won't happen IMO because Loma is fighting 3 2 division south of 147lbs which Manny is campaigning and this time in their career i think catch weight is not advisable.

Loma vs Davis or Loma vs Garcia would be explosive but Loma needs to focus first on Lopez and not take him for granted. In boxing, it would be stupid to think that you are going to an easy fight as there's no such thing as an easy fight.

I also want a Loma Garcia to happen, they are today's generation biggest attraction and we all want to see the best fighting the best, I hope promoters will not deprive boxing fans of great match up like a Loma Garcia match, sometimes promoters and managers the one preventing great fights to happen like the case of Wilder Joshua fight.
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July 18, 2020, 04:40:45 AM
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The wait is over! One of the most exciting match could ever happen is now on its countdown Shocked (I'm looking forward to this match long time ago already). I admire both Teofimo and Lomachenko because they are good in their own way. Lomachenko got the speed and agility while Lopez got the aggressiveness. Honestly, I can't decide on which side I'll choose. Yeah! Loma would be the people's choice for sure but Lopez should not be underestimated.

Hmm.. Maybe I'll go with Lopez. I want to see his signature move, his somersault lol Cheesy.
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July 18, 2020, 05:00:03 AM
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I also want a Loma Garcia to happen, they are today's generation biggest attraction and we all want to see the best fighting the best, I hope promoters will not deprive boxing fans of great match up like a Loma Garcia match, sometimes promoters and managers the one preventing great fights to happen like the case of Wilder Joshua fight.

There's just a long queue of fighters wanting to take a piece of Loma's legend. Sadly, though, the man is getting old and the rising generation of talented boxing stars are still very young. Garcia, for example, is more than 10 years Loma's junior. I just hope that by the time they meet inside the ring, if ever they will, Loma is still not losing a good deal of his feared athleticism, speed, and accuracy.

I agree that promoters and managers are oftentimes the pain in the ass when it comes to boxing negotiations. They are the reasons why a lot of great fights didn't see the light of day.

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The wait is over! One of the most exciting match could ever happen is now on its countdown Shocked (I'm looking forward to this match long time ago already). I admire both Teofimo and Lomachenko because they are good in their own way. Lomachenko got the speed and agility while Lopez got the aggressiveness. Honestly, I can't decide on which side I'll choose. Yeah! Loma would be the people's choice for sure but Lopez should not be underestimated.

Hmm.. Maybe I'll go with Lopez. I want to see his signature move, his somersault lol Cheesy.

you have already decided, lol.. .

Lopez is also a great fighter, so betting on him is not a bad decision, in addition, the most attractive one is you'll be getting a good odds since he is the underdog of the fight. Loma vs Lopez could be the biggest fight this year, so let's not miss this fight.

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July 18, 2020, 06:07:27 AM
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The wait is over! One of the most exciting match could ever happen is now on its countdown Shocked (I'm looking forward to this match long time ago already). I admire both Teofimo and Lomachenko because they are good in their own way. Lomachenko got the speed and agility while Lopez got the aggressiveness. Honestly, I can't decide on which side I'll choose. Yeah! Loma would be the people's choice for sure but Lopez should not be underestimated.

Hmm.. Maybe I'll go with Lopez. I want to see his signature move, his somersault lol Cheesy.

you have already decided, lol.. .

Lopez is also a great fighter, so betting on him is not a bad decision, in addition, the most attractive one is you'll be getting a good odds since he is the underdog of the fight. Loma vs Lopez could be the biggest fight this year, so let's not miss this fight.

Details of the fight can be seen in - https://champinon.info/schedule/lomachenko-vs-lopez/#close

However, there's no information yet on how to watch it, on what channel or is it a PPV fight that we need to subscribe, no info yet from that site.
Maybe there will be more update as the fight schedule is approaching.

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July 18, 2020, 06:07:43 AM
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The wait is over! One of the most exciting match could ever happen is now on its countdown Shocked (I'm looking forward to this match long time ago already). I admire both Teofimo and Lomachenko because they are good in their own way. Lomachenko got the speed and agility while Lopez got the aggressiveness. Honestly, I can't decide on which side I'll choose. Yeah! Loma would be the people's choice for sure but Lopez should not be underestimated.

Hmm.. Maybe I'll go with Lopez. I want to see his signature move, his somersault lol Cheesy.

you have already decided, lol.. .

Lopez is also a great fighter, so betting on him is not a bad decision, in addition, the most attractive one is you'll be getting a good odds since he is the underdog of the fight. Loma vs Lopez could be the biggest fight this year, so let's not miss this fight.

Good and very attractive odds for Lopez that's for sure. For the lower weight class, yes this could be the biggest fight in this pandemic prone boxing.  Specially if this will live up to the hype, Lopez upsetting Loma or Loma showing his technical skills and I'm sure boxing commentators will be awe with his talent again and declaring him the best boxer of todays generation.

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July 18, 2020, 07:16:25 AM
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The wait is over! One of the most exciting match could ever happen is now on its countdown Shocked (I'm looking forward to this match long time ago already). I admire both Teofimo and Lomachenko because they are good in their own way. Lomachenko got the speed and agility while Lopez got the aggressiveness. Honestly, I can't decide on which side I'll choose. Yeah! Loma would be the people's choice for sure but Lopez should not be underestimated.

Hmm.. Maybe I'll go with Lopez. I want to see his signature move, his somersault lol Cheesy.

you have already decided, lol.. .

Lopez is also a great fighter, so betting on him is not a bad decision, in addition, the most attractive one is you'll be getting a good odds since he is the underdog of the fight. Loma vs Lopez could be the biggest fight this year, so let's not miss this fight.

Good and very attractive odds for Lopez that's for sure. For the lower weight class, yes this could be the biggest fight in this pandemic prone boxing.  Specially if this will live up to the hype, Lopez upsetting Loma or Loma showing his technical skills and I'm sure boxing commentators will be awe with his talent again and declaring him the best boxer of todays generation.

With his ring presence together with his speed, Loma really get the attention of the commentators. In his opponent's side,
Lopez aggressiveness is also dangerous, taking the right timing and surprise Loma with a big heavy punch.

Also gives him the  chance in winning this fight, like what you have said odd are sweet if happened that he disappoint Loma.

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July 18, 2020, 09:39:27 AM
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you have already decided, lol.. .

Lopez is also a great fighter, so betting on him is not a bad decision, in addition, the most attractive one is you'll be getting a good odds since he is the underdog of the fight. Loma vs Lopez could be the biggest fight this year, so let's not miss this fight.
Does the fight had been started or being scheduled? I think it was not happen due to this pandemic. Since it needs time for the boxers for body conditioning and to either gain or lose weight.

The pandemic really the one to blame for this. There are relatively good fights to happen but it never did. I hope that vaccine will be available soon so that we can adopt the normal phase of our life and not like this.
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July 18, 2020, 09:43:31 AM
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Honestly, I can't decide on which side I'll choose. Yeah! Loma would be the people's choice for sure but Lopez should not be underestimated.

Hmm.. Maybe I'll go with Lopez. I want to see his signature move, his somersault lol Cheesy.

you have already decided, lol.. .

Lopez is also a great fighter, so betting on him is not a bad decision, in addition, the most attractive one is you'll be getting a good odds since he is the underdog of the fight. Loma vs Lopez could be the biggest fight this year, so let's not miss this fight.
Oops, I was carried away Tongue. I am not aware that I already made a choice. D*mn that somersault lol.

But you're right in all fairness, betting on him is not a bad idea either. He is bigger and has a longer reach thus getting a greater chance of winning.
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Loma is the more skilled fighter but the long layoff will have a greater impact on him than Lopez. I don't know if a fighter his age can remain sharp without being active in competition.

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July 22, 2020, 03:38:59 AM
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Loma is the more skilled fighter but the long layoff will have a greater impact on him than Lopez. I don't know if a fighter his age can remain sharp without being active in competition.
Lomachenko is fighting all his life and he does have some crazy drills and many of the fighters are copying his training methods and for a fighter like that he will prepare in his way to face Lopez and a one year lay off will not do much harm as he will be healing from his old injuries and he will be perfectly fit and sharp when he enters the ring and regarding his age he is just 32 years which is the prime age for majority of the athletes.
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Loma is the more skilled fighter but the long layoff will have a greater impact on him than Lopez. I don't know if a fighter his age can remain sharp without being active in competition.
Lomachenko is fighting all his life and he does have some crazy drills and many of the fighters are copying his training methods and for a fighter like that he will prepare in his way to face Lopez and a one year lay off will not do much harm as he will be healing from his old injuries and he will be perfectly fit and sharp when he enters the ring and regarding his age he is just 32 years which is the prime age for majority of the athletes.
Lomachenko  never had a bad fight, so let's expect he will show the same in this fight, maybe if I will bet on his opponent, the only factor that will attract me is that Teofimo Lopez is the younger fighter here, that's it, and of course the odds since Teofimo Lopez is the underdog.

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July 23, 2020, 07:37:09 AM
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Loma is the more skilled fighter but the long layoff will have a greater impact on him than Lopez. I don't know if a fighter his age can remain sharp without being active in competition.

It's not like Loma is old lol, he only turned 32 a few months ago. I don't think 32 is old for this generation of boxers. Pacquiao is in his 40s and still going strong.

You can bet your ass that Loma is still training like a beast in this period though, these guys never stop.

Lopez is the one most likely to sit around and waste time, since he probably hasn't developed the grit and determination that loma has had a decade longer to forge.
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July 23, 2020, 10:52:25 AM
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Loma is the more skilled fighter but the long layoff will have a greater impact on him than Lopez. I don't know if a fighter his age can remain sharp without being active in competition.

It's not like Loma is old lol, he only turned 32 a few months ago. I don't think 32 is old for this generation of boxers. Pacquiao is in his 40s and still going strong.

You can bet your ass that Loma is still training like a beast in this period though, these guys never stop.

Lopez is the one most likely to sit around and waste time, since he probably hasn't developed the grit and determination that loma has had a decade longer to forge.

Maybe he is older but Loma is not old, yes, I agree with you because the way he fight, he looks really good and you can tell that he is training hard to be fully fit when fighting in the ring. I think we should stop using the age difference to see the advantage and disadvantage, Manny is a living legend, he is 40 but is beating fighters at their prime.

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Promoter Bob Arum has informed BoxingScene.com that it is still possible that the Vasiliy Lomachenko-Teofimo López fight could be broadcast live on ESPN.

Arum previously believed his expensive lightweight title unification fight was destined for ESPN Pay-Per-View on October 3, but the 88-year-old promoter is waiting for news from ESPN executives on how they will televise one of the most anticipated fights in the rest of the 2020 boxing calendar.

Lomachenko-Lopez may also be offered on ESPN +, the network's $ 5-a-month streaming service. If Lomachenko-Lopez heads up a pay-per-view program, it would probably cost at least $ 75 to watch in HD.

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-lomachenko-lopez-air-on-espn-not-necessarily-pay-per-view--150522

For some people, the cost would not be too high to PPV for a stellar fight, the most anticipated and in HD. Therefore, the transmission costs, boxers, technicians and staff it could generate the desired income at this time from Covid19. Only they know how to make it possible.

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How much would it cost me to see some of my favorite events? In addition to being safe at home with my family.


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Promoter Bob Arum has informed BoxingScene.com that it is still possible that the Vasiliy Lomachenko-Teofimo López fight could be broadcast live on ESPN.

Arum previously believed his expensive lightweight title unification fight was destined for ESPN Pay-Per-View on October 3, but the 88-year-old promoter is waiting for news from ESPN executives on how they will televise one of the most anticipated fights in the rest of the 2020 boxing calendar.

Lomachenko-Lopez may also be offered on ESPN +, the network's $ 5-a-month streaming service. If Lomachenko-Lopez heads up a pay-per-view program, it would probably cost at least $ 75 to watch in HD.

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-lomachenko-lopez-air-on-espn-not-necessarily-pay-per-view--150522

For some people, the cost would not be too high to PPV for a stellar fight, the most anticipated and in HD. Therefore, the transmission costs, boxers, technicians and staff it could generate the desired income at this time from Covid19. Only they know how to make it possible.

If the fight was PPV I would ask myself.
How much would it cost me to see some of my favorite events? In addition to being safe at home with my family.



I would be okay with the cost though, that is reasonable, even before the pandemic, there are PPV access that cost $100, so this one is still reasonable considering Lomachenko is an entertaining fighter.

Manny vs Thurma's PPV was 74.99 usd.

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Promoter Bob Arum has informed BoxingScene.com that it is still possible that the Vasiliy Lomachenko-Teofimo López fight could be broadcast live on ESPN.

Arum previously believed his expensive lightweight title unification fight was destined for ESPN Pay-Per-View on October 3, but the 88-year-old promoter is waiting for news from ESPN executives on how they will televise one of the most anticipated fights in the rest of the 2020 boxing calendar.

Lomachenko-Lopez may also be offered on ESPN +, the network's $ 5-a-month streaming service. If Lomachenko-Lopez heads up a pay-per-view program, it would probably cost at least $ 75 to watch in HD.

https://www.boxingscene.com/arum-lomachenko-lopez-air-on-espn-not-necessarily-pay-per-view--150522

For some people, the cost would not be too high to PPV for a stellar fight, the most anticipated and in HD. Therefore, the transmission costs, boxers, technicians and staff it could generate the desired income at this time from Covid19. Only they know how to make it possible.

If the fight was PPV I would ask myself.
How much would it cost me to see some of my favorite events? In addition to being safe at home with my family.



I would be okay with the cost though, that is reasonable, even before the pandemic, there are PPV access that cost $100, so this one is still reasonable considering Lomachenko is an entertaining fighter.

Manny vs Thurma's PPV was 74.99 usd.

MANNY PACQUIAO VS. KEITH THURMAN: HOW TO WATCH, START TIME, ODDS AND MORE | FOX PPV
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Channel: The main card will be available exclusively on FOX Sports Pay-Per-View for $74.99. You can click here to order the event and stream live on any of your devices, or check with your cable provider for details on how to order at home.

He deserve that price for PPV, he is currently the king of pound for pound.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28785006/pound-pound-rankings-tyson-fury-makes-debut

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I don't think anybody is going to pay anywhere near $75 to watch Lomachenko fight, come on now.

Yes, he's one of the great to ever lace up the boots, but he's definitely not much of a superstar. A lot of boxing fans haven't even heard of him, because the heavyweight category is where all the money is at.

In the lighter categories, pretty much Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are the only ones that managed to successfully pull in $75-$100 PPVs.

I really wouldn't count on Lomachenko or Lomez pulling in anywhere near those numbers—lockdown or not! I think we'll be looking at closer to $25-$30 in order to appeal to as many people as possible, that's if it's not streamed through some sort of promotional offer.

I personally wouldn't pay more than $30 for this fight, unless the undercard is absolutely stacked.
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I don't think anybody is going to pay anywhere near $75 to watch Lomachenko fight, come on now.

Yes, he's one of the great to ever lace up the boots, but he's definitely not much of a superstar. A lot of boxing fans haven't even heard of him, because the heavyweight category is where all the money is at.

In the lighter categories, pretty much Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are the only ones that managed to successfully pull in $75-$100 PPVs.

I really wouldn't count on Lomachenko or Lomez pulling in anywhere near those numbers—lockdown or not! I think we'll be looking at closer to $25-$30 in order to appeal to as many people as possible, that's if it's not streamed through some sort of promotional offer.

I personally wouldn't pay more than $30 for this fight, unless the undercard is absolutely stacked.

I guess we have different opinion, of course, for some it's not reasonable but I think before they came out with that price, they have already evaluated how the people will react and how they are gonna come up to make this fight successful. Please remember that the fight does not have a gate entrance which is where big portion of their revenue is really coming, so I guess they have a reason to sell the PPV at a higher price if we are thinking the price is just high.

Well, for some, they might just watch an illegal streaming so it won't matter to them.

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I don't think anybody is going to pay anywhere near $75 to watch Lomachenko fight, come on now.

We can't really tell.

Yes, he's one of the great to ever lace up the boots, but he's definitely not much of a superstar. A lot of boxing fans haven't even heard of him, because the heavyweight category is where all the money is at.

That's why he is selling, one of the greatest amateur to lace up the gloves and then continue his success to the pro ranks, winning belts in his 2nd fight, if I'm not mistaken.

In the lighter categories, pretty much Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are the only ones that managed to successfully pull in $75-$100 PPVs.

I think you mean 147 lbs? of course, welterweights division the main division in boxing.

I really wouldn't count on Lomachenko or Lomez pulling in anywhere near those numbers—lockdown or not! I think we'll be looking at closer to $25-$30 in order to appeal to as many people as possible, that's if it's not streamed through some sort of promotional offer.

I personally wouldn't pay more than $30 for this fight, unless the undercard is absolutely stacked.

Maybe there are hard core boxing fans who are willing to pay that much just to see Loma's greatness again and then some casual fans.

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I don't think anybody is going to pay anywhere near $75 to watch Lomachenko fight, come on now.

Yes, he's one of the great to ever lace up the boots, but he's definitely not much of a superstar. A lot of boxing fans haven't even heard of him, because the heavyweight category is where all the money is at.

In the lighter categories, pretty much Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are the only ones that managed to successfully pull in $75-$100 PPVs.

I really wouldn't count on Lomachenko or Lomez pulling in anywhere near those numbers—lockdown or not! I think we'll be looking at closer to $25-$30 in order to appeal to as many people as possible, that's if it's not streamed through some sort of promotional offer.

I personally wouldn't pay more than $30 for this fight, unless the undercard is absolutely stacked.

I guess we have different opinion, of course, for some it's not reasonable but I think before they came out with that price, they have already evaluated how the people will react and how they are gonna come up to make this fight successful. Please remember that the fight does not have a gate entrance which is where big portion of their revenue is really coming, so I guess they have a reason to sell the PPV at a higher price if we are thinking the price is just high.

Well, for some, they might just watch an illegal streaming so it won't matter to them.
I agree with what you said here, they might not be worth $75, but this are two highly level boxers at the lower weight division and they should deserved what PPV the other boxers in the higher weight class is being paid. Yes, I'm sure that there are people going to stream this one in facebook, but still worth every penny if you buy the PPV and watch it with your friends around specially that we are in the pandemic.

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I don't think anybody is going to pay anywhere near $75 to watch Lomachenko fight, come on now.

Yes, he's one of the great to ever lace up the boots, but he's definitely not much of a superstar. A lot of boxing fans haven't even heard of him, because the heavyweight category is where all the money is at.

In the lighter categories, pretty much Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao are the only ones that managed to successfully pull in $75-$100 PPVs.

I really wouldn't count on Lomachenko or Lomez pulling in anywhere near those numbers—lockdown or not! I think we'll be looking at closer to $25-$30 in order to appeal to as many people as possible, that's if it's not streamed through some sort of promotional offer.

I personally wouldn't pay more than $30 for this fight, unless the undercard is absolutely stacked.

I guess we have different opinion, of course, for some it's not reasonable but I think before they came out with that price, they have already evaluated how the people will react and how they are gonna come up to make this fight successful. Please remember that the fight does not have a gate entrance which is where big portion of their revenue is really coming, so I guess they have a reason to sell the PPV at a higher price if we are thinking the price is just high.

Well, for some, they might just watch an illegal streaming so it won't matter to them.
I agree with what you said here, they might not be worth $75, but this are two highly level boxers at the lower weight division and they should deserved what PPV the other boxers in the higher weight class is being paid. Yes, I'm sure that there are people going to stream this one in facebook, but still worth every penny if you buy the PPV and watch it with your friends around specially that we are in the pandemic.
I think the ticket or the cost to see this match is too expensive and if I have value as expensive as that will make many people think more when they want to watch maybe they prefer to watch the broadcast again on some streaming media.
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Teofimo López has rejected down an offer for $ 1.2 for the scheduled fight with Vasiliy Lomachenko on October 3 in Las Vegas. While Loma accepted $ 3.25. Fans agree that López receives more money because López could attract more fans from the US. Apparently, the fight will take place live. What comes out is that Loma received a higher offer due to his titles and career, while López's career is on the rise.

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1288929383919620098?s=19

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Teofimo López has rejected down an offer for $ 1.2 for the scheduled fight with Vasiliy Lomachenko on October 3 in Las Vegas. While Loma accepted $ 3.25. Fans agree that López receives more money because López could attract more fans from the US. Apparently, the fight will take place live. What comes out is that Loma received a higher offer due to his titles and career, while López's career is on the rise.

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1288929383919620098?s=19


Of course, Loma will received better deal because he is the A-side here. I don't know what Lopez is thinking, I'm sure this is the biggest payday of his career by $1.2 million is a decent amount to get when you are just starting to rise in boxing. You can simply get $2 million unless you are proven star already. This is win-win situation for him, otherwise he will look bad at this one if he decline that offer and he will definitely looks like bailing out and acting like a diva. And who will he fight next that can get him that money right now?

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Teofimo López has rejected down an offer for $ 1.2 for the scheduled fight with Vasiliy Lomachenko on October 3 in Las Vegas. While Loma accepted $ 3.25. Fans agree that López receives more money because López could attract more fans from the US. Apparently, the fight will take place live. What comes out is that Loma received a higher offer due to his titles and career, while López's career is on the rise.

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1288929383919620098?s=19


I think this is just a rumour, doesn't make sense that he is calling out Loma in his last win and totally bitching out because of the money put in the table? I agree that this is going to be the biggest pay of his career so why reject it? To be honest, he still does not have the name in the US, maybe in his hometown, but some casual boxing fans haven't heard of his name before. Not good for his image if he backs out of this deal and not pursue this fight and maybe he can't get a second fight to find Loma.

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August 01, 2020, 11:31:18 PM
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Teofimo López has rejected down an offer for $ 1.2 for the scheduled fight with Vasiliy Lomachenko on October 3 in Las Vegas. While Loma accepted $ 3.25. Fans agree that López receives more money because López could attract more fans from the US. Apparently, the fight will take place live. What comes out is that Loma received a higher offer due to his titles and career, while López's career is on the rise.

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1288929383919620098?s=19


Of course, Loma will received better deal because he is the A-side here. I don't know what Lopez is thinking, I'm sure this is the biggest payday of his career by $1.2 million is a decent amount to get when you are just starting to rise in boxing. You can simply get $2 million unless you are proven star already. This is win-win situation for him, otherwise he will look bad at this one if he decline that offer and he will definitely looks like bailing out and acting like a diva. And who will he fight next that can get him that money right now?

I agree with you, Teofimo Lopez should not reject the $ 1.2 million offer. C'mon dude is a big amount in my opinion, why Teofimo Lopez
playing like a star anyway. From this incident will reduce his popularity in the world of boxing in my opinion. Because Teofimo Lopez's
behavior was considered arrogant in the end, and he would also look bad if he did that.

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What happened to Lopez posting this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-mEMNwCw0

His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.

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What happened to Lopez posting this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-mEMNwCw0

His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.

Maybe he realized that Loma is gonna nail him, so he want a big paycheck as this could be his last fight.
If I am him, I would not think of the money for now if I believe on myself, as winning against Loma will make him a big market in the future.

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August 02, 2020, 02:37:38 PM
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What happened to Lopez posting this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-mEMNwCw0

His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.

Maybe he realized that Loma is gonna nail him, so he want a big paycheck as this could be his last fight.
If I am him, I would not think of the money for now if I believe on myself, as winning against Loma will make him a big market in the future.

That amount is pretty much reasonable at the current situation, how can he demand a big paycheck if the only way to sell the fight is through PPV, he is even an underdog of this fight, so he is the one looking for a shot to bet a popular fighter. Lomachenko might nail him, lol.. but actually this guy Lopez is also legit, he is younger and it's understandable that he is listed as the dog since he is fight the number 1 pound of pound boxer.

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August 05, 2020, 08:29:25 AM
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His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.
This will probably be his biggest pay day in his career as he is fighting Lomachenko who has a legendary status and there is nothing wrong in wanting more money to fight him. If you take into consideration a million dollars pay day is not that huge as he need to take care of the taxes and his management team and coaches as well as sparring partners and the remaining amount will not settle his life.
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August 05, 2020, 08:34:41 AM
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His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.
This will probably be his biggest pay day in his career as he is fighting Lomachenko who has a legendary status and there is nothing wrong in wanting more money to fight him. If you take into consideration a million dollars pay day is not that huge as he need to take care of the taxes and his management team and coaches as well as sparring partners and the remaining amount will not settle his life.
I'm not sure if it is, but it seems like he is complaining with the amount, so definitely he is not satisfied with it and we can assume that it's not the biggest.

His net worth here https://trendcelebsnow.com/teofimo-lopez-net-worth/

He has an increasing net worth, in 2019 his NW is $1 Million - $5 Million (Approx.), so this year, it might have increase already so he is looking for a bigger paycheck. 

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August 05, 2020, 10:00:33 AM
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His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.
This will probably be his biggest pay day in his career as he is fighting Lomachenko who has a legendary status and there is nothing wrong in wanting more money to fight him. If you take into consideration a million dollars pay day is not that huge as he need to take care of the taxes and his management team and coaches as well as sparring partners and the remaining amount will not settle his life.
I'm not sure if it is, but it seems like he is complaining with the amount, so definitely he is not satisfied with it and we can assume that it's not the biggest.

His net worth here https://trendcelebsnow.com/teofimo-lopez-net-worth/

He has an increasing net worth, in 2019 his NW is $1 Million - $5 Million (Approx.), so this year, it might have increase already so he is looking for a bigger paycheck. 

Well, definitely he should demand a better paycheck.  Imagine $1.2 million only for that huge fight event?  Besides he already has the net worth that may require him of a better paycheck.  IF all were deducted he will be left at around 30% to 40%  of that amount or possibly less.  It is a big fight of his career and he is sure that the money generated of that fight will be huge since he is fighting Lomachenko so it is fair to demand more.

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August 05, 2020, 11:06:49 AM
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His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.
This will probably be his biggest pay day in his career as he is fighting Lomachenko who has a legendary status and there is nothing wrong in wanting more money to fight him. If you take into consideration a million dollars pay day is not that huge as he need to take care of the taxes and his management team and coaches as well as sparring partners and the remaining amount will not settle his life.
I'm not sure if it is, but it seems like he is complaining with the amount, so definitely he is not satisfied with it and we can assume that it's not the biggest.

His net worth here https://trendcelebsnow.com/teofimo-lopez-net-worth/

He has an increasing net worth, in 2019 his NW is $1 Million - $5 Million (Approx.), so this year, it might have increase already so he is looking for a bigger paycheck. 

Well, definitely he should demand a better paycheck.  Imagine $1.2 million only for that huge fight event?  Besides he already has the net worth that may require him of a better paycheck.  IF all were deducted he will be left at around 30% to 40%  of that amount or possibly less.  It is a big fight of his career and he is sure that the money generated of that fight will be huge since he is fighting Lomachenko so it is fair to demand more.

But the problem is that he is the one calling Loma in the past, so for me, regardless of what the amount is, he should accept it because it seems that he wanted to prove something by fighting the best in his decision. So it's doesn't make sense that he will suddenly reverse his decision and wanted more money. And remember that Loma is more famous than him, so definitely will get the biggest share of the purse. Let's see, we do hope that they can re-negotiate and at least get what he thinks he deserves.

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August 05, 2020, 10:32:01 PM
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What happened to Lopez posting this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj-mEMNwCw0

His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.

WTF...

I remember Juan Manuel Marquez doing the same act when he ask more money for a rematch with Manny Pacquiao and Bob Arum refused and the former ending up fighting in Indonesia for a 30K USD purse against Chrish John, correct me if i'm wrong here.

We are in the pandemic and this fight will have no crowd so Lopez' camp should understand that the revenue for this would not be huge. Wrong move on Lopez as this might self-destruct his career. Show first what he've got and everything will follow just like Pacman.

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We explained to them we have no gate [revenue], no closed-circuit [revenue],” Arum told ESPN.com on Tuesday. “I mean, we’re willing to pay him a big price, but again, I’m not going to lose millions of dollars on an event because he thinks he’s worth more.”
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August 06, 2020, 12:29:08 PM
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And this is what Lopez says in respond to his haters:

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Teofimo Lopez
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The fight is going to happen. Stuff like this sometimes takes a little longer to happen and that’s why it’s called “negotiating” for a reason. Dumb asses!

https://twitter.com/TeofimoLopez/status/1291089928693088256

LOL, his probably trying to be a 'hard to get' attitude, but sooner or later he will succumb to the pressures and I doubt that he can even get a 60-40 split here.

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August 06, 2020, 06:32:48 PM
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And this is what Lopez says in respond to his haters:

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Teofimo Lopez
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The fight is going to happen. Stuff like this sometimes takes a little longer to happen and that’s why it’s called “negotiating” for a reason. Dumb asses!

https://twitter.com/TeofimoLopez/status/1291089928693088256

LOL, his probably trying to be a 'hard to get' attitude, but sooner or later he will succumb to the pressures and I doubt that he can even get a 60-40 split here.

Lopez doesn't have the bargaining power in the table, he and his team should understand that. For sure, when they announce the fight, they have at least some verbal agreement already and that only their signatures are needed before they officially announce it. So I don't believed that there are negotiations happening. He is just delaying it and will not get the money that he wanted in my opinion.

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August 06, 2020, 07:23:35 PM
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And this is what Lopez says in respond to his haters:

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Teofimo Lopez
@TeofimoLopez
The fight is going to happen. Stuff like this sometimes takes a little longer to happen and that’s why it’s called “negotiating” for a reason. Dumb asses!

https://twitter.com/TeofimoLopez/status/1291089928693088256

LOL, his probably trying to be a 'hard to get' attitude, but sooner or later he will succumb to the pressures and I doubt that he can even get a 60-40 split here.

Lopez doesn't have the bargaining power in the table, he and his team should understand that. For sure, when they announce the fight, they have at least some verbal agreement already and that only their signatures are needed before they officially announce it. So I don't believed that there are negotiations happening. He is just delaying it and will not get the money that he wanted in my opinion.

That's called business.

The fight needs more attentions so promoters will get the money that they've  aiming
this so called negotiations might just a part of free advertisement to bring the attention
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August 06, 2020, 07:49:39 PM
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So Lopez is looking to renegotiate the split after seemingly already coming to terms a few weeks ago?

Looks like another boxer who either wants;

1. To price himself out so he can save face—since he actually doesn't want to fight Loma.
2. To make sure he gets a massive payday, because he knows his career would be in shambles when he gets KO'd by Loma.

Lopez is by far the B side. Sure, he's got a good resumé, but it's not like Lomachenko's.

I think a 70/30 split, or BEST CASE scenario 60/40 split favoring Loma is fair. Lopez has ONE FUCKING belt and this is his first defense, Loma has THREE....

I hope Lopez prices himself out so we can see Loma fight Gervonta Davis instead.
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August 07, 2020, 07:59:00 AM
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So Lopez is looking to renegotiate the split after seemingly already coming to terms a few weeks ago?

Looks like another boxer who either wants;

1. To price himself out so he can save face—since he actually doesn't want to fight Loma.
2. To make sure he gets a massive payday, because he knows his career would be in shambles when he gets KO'd by Loma.
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I think they are looking for Verdejo next if the fight with Lopez fizzled out.

Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Felix Verdejo possible for Oct. 3 if Teofimo Lopez falls through. We don't know what's getting inside Lopez's mind to try to have the split favoring him. We are still in the pandemic, not much money to generate, and he is lucky that he is still getting more than a mil in this situation. I agree that he is the B side here and he shouldn't be that big headed hard to negotiate fighter.

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August 07, 2020, 08:03:43 AM
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That's called business.

The fight needs more attentions so promoters will get the money that they've  aiming
this so called negotiations might just a part of free advertisement to bring the attention
of the people who love watching and betting to this sport.

I'm sorry but I have to disagree, that is not business, as explain by @DarkDays, Lopez doesn't have any control and remember that there will be no live gates here, his lucky if the fight goes to PPV because I think ESPN is still thinking about that. So there's no need for him to hype the fight in public and bring some attention. Casual and hardcore fans are all aware how great Loma is, but Lopez? I don't think that some fans really know him as a fighter except that he is calling Loma and then back out at the last minute.

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August 07, 2020, 08:13:26 AM
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Maybe he realized that Loma is gonna nail him, so he want a big paycheck as this could be his last fight.
LMAO, Lopez knows that he will be humiliated or no mass... It's okay if he gets knocked out cold, but the terror from Loma is more about humiliation, which will affect the marketing in the long term.

Probably 70-30 or 65-35 would do.

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Maybe he realized that Loma is gonna nail him, so he want a big paycheck as this could be his last fight.
LMAO, Lopez knows that he will be humiliated or no mass... It's okay if he gets knocked out cold, but the terror from Loma is more about humiliation, which will affect the marketing in the long term.

Probably 70-30 or 65-35 would do.

Lopez here should not demand that high, if Manny Pacquiao a superstar in boxing got only 40% share of their fight with Mayweather, I think Lopez here should only get 40% below. That's enough already, depending on the outcome of the fight, I think it can still give him a good payday. He should not be greedy, he is not the favorites, he should not demand.

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August 07, 2020, 12:52:12 PM
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Maybe he realized that Loma is gonna nail him, so he want a big paycheck as this could be his last fight.
LMAO, Lopez knows that he will be humiliated or no mass... It's okay if he gets knocked out cold, but the terror from Loma is more about humiliation, which will affect the marketing in the long term.

Probably 70-30 or 65-35 would do.

Lopez here should not demand that high, if Manny Pacquiao a superstar in boxing got only 40% share of their fight with Mayweather, I think Lopez here should only get 40% below. That's enough already, depending on the outcome of the fight, I think it can still give him a good payday. He should not be greedy, he is not the favorites, he should not demand.
Not only that, but the opportunity is already here, why wasted and asked for more money when you are not the superstar, or as what we term, the B-side. 70-30 split will be find, if he gets knock out or being toyed around by Lomachenko then it's fine, at least you get a cool million for doing that.

Lopez is still young and maybe that's why he thinks that he is in top of the division, when clearly Loma has been dominating and has far faces better opposition.

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Maybe he realized that Loma is gonna nail him, so he want a big paycheck as this could be his last fight.
LMAO, Lopez knows that he will be humiliated or no mass... It's okay if he gets knocked out cold, but the terror from Loma is more about humiliation, which will affect the marketing in the long term.

Probably 70-30 or 65-35 would do.

Lopez here should not demand that high, if Manny Pacquiao a superstar in boxing got only 40% share of their fight with Mayweather, I think Lopez here should only get 40% below. That's enough already, depending on the outcome of the fight, I think it can still give him a good payday. He should not be greedy, he is not the favorites, he should not demand.
Not only that, but the opportunity is already here, why wasted and asked for more money when you are not the superstar, or as what we term, the B-side. 70-30 split will be find, if he gets knock out or being toyed around by Lomachenko then it's fine, at least you get a cool million for doing that.

Lopez is still young and maybe that's why he thinks that he is in top of the division, when clearly Loma has been dominating and has far faces better opposition.

Lopez is no doubt a good fight but he is greedy in this one, he ask for this fight and now that he already got this, he wants a better share, I think that's not fair. If he really believe on himself and wants to make more money, maybe bet on himself in this fight, he is the underdog, he will get better return, that if it's possible.

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August 07, 2020, 02:01:30 PM
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So Lopez is looking to renegotiate the split after seemingly already coming to terms a few weeks ago?

Looks like another boxer who either wants;

1. To price himself out so he can save face—since he actually doesn't want to fight Loma.
2. To make sure he gets a massive payday, because he knows his career would be in shambles when he gets KO'd by Loma.
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I think they are looking for Verdejo next if the fight with Lopez fizzled out.

Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Felix Verdejo possible for Oct. 3 if Teofimo Lopez falls through. We don't know what's getting inside Lopez's mind to try to have the split favoring him. We are still in the pandemic, not much money to generate, and he is lucky that he is still getting more than a mil in this situation. I agree that he is the B side here and he shouldn't be that big headed hard to negotiate fighter.

Jesus, I'd rather see Lopez get a ridiculous pay day than see Loma fight this random...

There's no tension in seeing Lomachenko fight some ranked 22 guy who has already been knocked out cold by someone far below Loma's caliber.

Devin Haney would be a good matchup. He seems genuinely willing to fight Loma even for a bad split. He actually has just as much chance as Lopez or Tank Davis too. He's not currently locked into a fight either, so it's the perfect candidate.

Everybody talks tough saying they want to fight X, Y, and Z at the top of the game, but they never talk about how they want an epic payoff to do so.


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August 07, 2020, 02:44:32 PM
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His main reason is that 1.2$ million is not enough to feed his family? WTF? Granted that he won't get the full paycheck because of taxes and some goes to his team (trainers, assistant trainers, cut man etc), but man, you are acting a bitch and surely his stocks will go down. He should take every advantage and opportunity here, IMHO.
This will probably be his biggest pay day in his career as he is fighting Lomachenko who has a legendary status and there is nothing wrong in wanting more money to fight him. If you take into consideration a million dollars pay day is not that huge as he need to take care of the taxes and his management team and coaches as well as sparring partners and the remaining amount will not settle his life.
I'm not sure if it is, but it seems like he is complaining with the amount, so definitely he is not satisfied with it and we can assume that it's not the biggest.

His net worth here https://trendcelebsnow.com/teofimo-lopez-net-worth/

He has an increasing net worth, in 2019 his NW is $1 Million - $5 Million (Approx.), so this year, it might have increase already so he is looking for a bigger paycheck. 

Well, definitely he should demand a better paycheck.  Imagine $1.2 million only for that huge fight event?  Besides he already has the net worth that may require him of a better paycheck.  IF all were deducted he will be left at around 30% to 40%  of that amount or possibly less.  It is a big fight of his career and he is sure that the money generated of that fight will be huge since he is fighting Lomachenko so it is fair to demand more.

But the problem is that he is the one calling Loma in the past, so for me, regardless of what the amount is, he should accept it because it seems that he wanted to prove something by fighting the best in his decision. So it's doesn't make sense that he will suddenly reverse his decision and wanted more money. And remember that Loma is more famous than him, so definitely will get the biggest share of the purse. Let's see, we do hope that they can re-negotiate and at least get what he thinks he deserves.

Agree with you, Loma can sell his fight with any opponent as people will buy a PPV to watch him, so Lopez does not need to demand, instead, he will wait for his time that he will be the one to give an offer to his opponent.

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August 07, 2020, 03:22:28 PM
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It is so good to see that the topics in the forum has been this diverse and complex. As many say, this fight would be a matter of youth energy against senior experience. Although, it crossed my mind f these fights requiring physical contacts would be allowed to take place during this time.

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August 07, 2020, 09:39:11 PM
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So Lopez is looking to renegotiate the split after seemingly already coming to terms a few weeks ago?

Looks like another boxer who either wants;

1. To price himself out so he can save face—since he actually doesn't want to fight Loma.
2. To make sure he gets a massive payday, because he knows his career would be in shambles when he gets KO'd by Loma.
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I think they are looking for Verdejo next if the fight with Lopez fizzled out.

Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Felix Verdejo possible for Oct. 3 if Teofimo Lopez falls through. We don't know what's getting inside Lopez's mind to try to have the split favoring him. We are still in the pandemic, not much money to generate, and he is lucky that he is still getting more than a mil in this situation. I agree that he is the B side here and he shouldn't be that big headed hard to negotiate fighter.

Felix Verdejo had a lot of hype around him back then, very quick hands, but since his lost to an unknown Antonio Lozada Torres two years ago, Verdejo's stock goes down. Still a good match in paper, and it will be a cherry pick fight for Loma if the Lopez fight didn't materialised. And another all-in-house money for Top Rank.

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August 10, 2020, 11:49:38 PM
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So Lopez is looking to renegotiate the split after seemingly already coming to terms a few weeks ago?

Looks like another boxer who either wants;

1. To price himself out so he can save face—since he actually doesn't want to fight Loma.
2. To make sure he gets a massive payday, because he knows his career would be in shambles when he gets KO'd by Loma.
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I think they are looking for Verdejo next if the fight with Lopez fizzled out.

Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Felix Verdejo possible for Oct. 3 if Teofimo Lopez falls through. We don't know what's getting inside Lopez's mind to try to have the split favoring him. We are still in the pandemic, not much money to generate, and he is lucky that he is still getting more than a mil in this situation. I agree that he is the B side here and he shouldn't be that big headed hard to negotiate fighter.

Felix Verdejo had a lot of hype around him back then, very quick hands, but since his lost to an unknown Antonio Lozada Torres two years ago, Verdejo's stock goes down. Still a good match in paper, and it will be a cherry pick fight for Loma if the Lopez fight didn't materialised. And another all-in-house money for Top Rank.

Yes, perhaps this is already their plan B after all if the Teofimo Lopez fight failed. And all the blame will obviously go to Lopez here. It will be hard to negotiate as Davis will have Leo and maybe Haney will also ask for more money. Safe to say that this will be just another get busy fight for Loma before Top Rank look for more name foes in the future and I'm sure Lopez will not be the priority if he let this opportunity pass with his demand for more money.

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August 11, 2020, 02:26:43 AM
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Loma besides being a great athlete. He shows his generosity by reducing his own purse so that the fight with Teofimo López would take place. He is a complete champion.

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Bob Arum Praises Vasiliy Lomachenko During Teofimo Lopez Fight Negotiations: "He Voluntarily Reduced His Own Purse in Order To Get The Fight Done".

https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/bob-arum-praises-vasiliy-lomachenko-during-teofimo-lopez-fight-negotiations-he-voluntarily-reduced-his-own-purse-in-order-to- get-the-fight-done /

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Loma besides being a great athlete. He shows his generosity by reducing his own purse so that the fight with Teofimo López would take place. He is a complete champion.

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Bob Arum Praises Vasiliy Lomachenko During Teofimo Lopez Fight Negotiations: "He Voluntarily Reduced His Own Purse in Order To Get The Fight Done".

https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/bob-arum-praises-vasiliy-lomachenko-during-teofimo-lopez-fight-negotiations-he-voluntarily-reduced-his-own-purse-in-order-to- get-the-fight-done /

I was so hype about this news, however, when I click, there's no link in it. Try to look for other source, and as of the latest on the site that you have given,

https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/teofimo-lopez-vs-vasiliy-lomachenko-in-jeopardy-due-to-money-demands/

So it is still a no-go. And maybe that's why it was deleted in the first place because it is just a rumour.

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Loma besides being a great athlete. He shows his generosity by reducing his own purse so that the fight with Teofimo López would take place. He is a complete champion.

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https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/bob-arum-praises-vasiliy-lomachenko-during-teofimo-lopez-fight-negotiations-he-voluntarily-reduced-his-own-purse-in-order-to- get-the-fight-done /

I was so hype about this news, however, when I click, there's no link in it. Try to look for other source, and as of the latest on the site that you have given,

https://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/teofimo-lopez-vs-vasiliy-lomachenko-in-jeopardy-due-to-money-demands/

So it is still a no-go. And maybe that's why it was deleted in the first place because it is just a rumour.

I also got the news on my social media feed that Loma is taking a pay cut for this fight so that this will push through but it disappear when i'm trying to look at it again, so maybe that's a fake news.

But i'm hoping that was true so that this fight will push through as plan and we could see how Loma will destroy Lopez so that he will realized that he is not worth the price he is asking.
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August 11, 2020, 02:32:31 PM
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I also got the news on my social media feed that Loma is taking a pay cut for this fight so that this will push through but it disappear when i'm trying to look at it again, so maybe that's a fake news.

But i'm hoping that was true so that this fight will push through as plan and we could see how Loma will destroy Lopez so that he will realized that he is not worth the price he is asking.

Of course, this fight will gonna happen this October since the other games are adapting to these new rules, Boxing match won't have a problem with that as well. the only chance this fight would not happen is maybe because one of the boxers will change mind and we know that would not be the case with these boxers. You can see more about the match here:

https://champinon.info/schedule/lomachenko-vs-lopez/


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August 11, 2020, 10:22:07 PM
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I haven't seen the news about Loma agreeing on a pay cut just to salvage this fight against Lopez. So for now I would say we need to wait for the official announcement again. Usually it's the promoter who gives in on boxers demand so that the fight can push thorough. I remember Pacquiao vs Hatton, in which Hatton demanded more money, and Arum out of his own purse shell out like additional millions, and the rest is history. So let's see how the negotiation will turn outs. As the saying goes, "when there's smoke, there's fire", lets wait.

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I haven't seen the news about Loma agreeing on a pay cut just to salvage this fight against Lopez. So for now I would say we need to wait for the official announcement again. Usually it's the promoter who gives in on boxers demand so that the fight can push thorough. I remember Pacquiao vs Hatton, in which Hatton demanded more money, and Arum out of his own purse shell out like additional millions, and the rest is history. So let's see how the negotiation will turn outs. As the saying goes, "when there's smoke, there's fire", lets wait.

I don't think that Arum would allow some compromise here, not in the pandemic when budget are tight. It's either Lopez accepts the money in the table and get the beating from Loma.

At least when it's over he has money to feed his family for more. Instead of fighting another B-fighter wherein he will more likely gets less than the Loma fight. Loma doesn't have a problem facing another fighter in Verdejo and still get close to $3 million.

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August 11, 2020, 11:53:07 PM
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I really don't get the argument of Lopez and his team, really out of perspective to be honest.

They are saying that Arum give Shakur Stevenson like $300k-$400k in his last fight. Do their team really need to compare what other boxers are getting? If that is the case then $1 million is bigger that Shakur purse so what's the big deal?

I don't think its all about the money, maybe his team doesn't want to face Loma at all, in my opinion.

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August 12, 2020, 06:15:26 PM
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I can't say that this will be an easy fight for Lomachenko, in boxing you should not underestimate your opponent even if you have more experience to
them because a young boxer will surely to do his best so he can create the best record in his career.

But I can see that Lomachenko will get the better odds for this upcoming fight if it will likely to happen and there will be no problem that will occur
to this match up.
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August 12, 2020, 10:16:43 PM
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I haven't seen the news about Loma agreeing on a pay cut just to salvage this fight against Lopez. So for now I would say we need to wait for the official announcement again. Usually it's the promoter who gives in on boxers demand so that the fight can push thorough. I remember Pacquiao vs Hatton, in which Hatton demanded more money, and Arum out of his own purse shell out like additional millions, and the rest is history. So let's see how the negotiation will turn outs. As the saying goes, "when there's smoke, there's fire", lets wait.

I don't think that Arum would allow some compromise here, not in the pandemic when budget are tight. It's either Lopez accepts the money in the table and get the beating from Loma.

Yes, I would agree, but let's see who will be the first one to give in, Arum or Lopez camp.

At least when it's over he has money to feed his family for more. Instead of fighting another B-fighter wherein he will more likely gets less than the Loma fight. Loma doesn't have a problem facing another fighter in Verdejo and still get close to $3 million.

The ball is really on the part of Lopez's camp here. I don't know how 'experience' his manager is, but they shouldn't let ego and greediness takes over, because this is a good opportunity for Teofimo to show case his talent against the best in Loma. And for once, don't think about the money.  Sad

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August 12, 2020, 10:52:21 PM
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The ball is really on the part of Lopez's camp here. I don't know how 'experience' his manager is, but they shouldn't let ego and greediness takes over, because this is a good opportunity for Teofimo to show case his talent against the best in Loma. And for once, don't think about the money.  Sad

Winning this fight makes him better than Loma, therefore he can demand good offers in his next fight when depending the belt.
I don't know what's going on to their mind, they are given the opportunity but they are acting like they are the one making this fight interesting.
The kind has a potential, but the kind of attitude will not make him last in this boxing business.

I can't say that this will be an easy fight for Lomachenko, in boxing you should not underestimate your opponent even if you have more experience to
them because a young boxer will surely to do his best so he can create the best record in his career.

But I can see that Lomachenko will get the better odds for this upcoming fight if it will likely to happen and there will be no problem that will occur
to this match up.

Lomachenko is the favorite here, he got a better odds of winning but Lopez got better odds for betting.

Both fighters are really fun to watch, this should not be a boring fight I believe.
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August 13, 2020, 01:24:41 AM
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It looks like the fight is officially happening, and the great news is that it will be on regular cable instead of pay-per-view.

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1293709940121468928?s=20

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Breaking: Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo Lopez have agreed to terms for a lightweight title unification fight in mid-to-late October, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. Great progress made toward the fight headlining ESPN rather than PPV. Can’t wait for this one

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The ball is really on the part of Lopez's camp here. I don't know how 'experience' his manager is, but they shouldn't let ego and greediness takes over, because this is a good opportunity for Teofimo to show case his talent against the best in Loma. And for once, don't think about the money.  Sad

This is probably not just mere greed. There might be some lack of confidence in his camp. If the camp of Lopez is greedy, they should grab this huge opportunity.

Loma is the man of the hour. Having gotten the yes from him to face inside the ring is one hell of a chance. If this particular match does not give Lopez the payout he prefers, there's still so much of it after this match, but only if he wins it. And there's the uncertainty, which his camp is very much aware of. Money-wise or greed-wise, this career battle is one huge stepping stone for him in terms of revenue.

Imagine beating the legend, there would be much much bigger purses flowing in for him.  And he's just turned 23. He'd be heavily milking this sport for even a decade more. But, again, only if he's confident enough to face Loma. Otherwise, all he'll provide are excuses, afraid that his loss to the older man will end his budding career.

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It looks like the fight is officially happening, and the great news is that it will be on regular cable instead of pay-per-view.

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1293709940121468928?s=20

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. Great progress made toward the fight headlining ESPN rather than PPV. Can’t wait for this one

Glad to hear that finally, the negotiations was a success, and Lopez will get what he is asking for. Loma is willing to have his pay cut so that this fight can push through and it looks like this what happened.

It will be move a week or two weeks on the original fight, so yes, around mid-October, we just have to wait for it and see how bookies are going to open the odds but for sure Loma will be the favourite here.

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August 13, 2020, 10:38:17 AM
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It looks like the fight is officially happening, and the great news is that it will be on regular cable instead of pay-per-view.

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1293709940121468928?s=20

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Breaking: Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo Lopez have agreed to terms for a lightweight title unification fight in mid-to-late October, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. Great progress made toward the fight headlining ESPN rather than PPV. Can’t wait for this one

I'm glad to hear this is already finalize, but if it's televise live, how would they make money when there's no crowd allowed for the fight .

Really curious with the decision and I'd like to know what would be the source of revenue for this particular fight.

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August 13, 2020, 05:10:12 PM
 #193

It looks like the fight is officially happening, and the great news is that it will be on regular cable instead of pay-per-view.

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1293709940121468928?s=20

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Breaking: Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo Lopez have agreed to terms for a lightweight title unification fight in mid-to-late October, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. Great progress made toward the fight headlining ESPN rather than PPV. Can’t wait for this one

I'm glad to hear this is already finalize, but if it's televise live, how would they make money when there's no crowd allowed for the fight .

Really curious with the decision and I'd like to know what would be the source of revenue for this particular fight.

Most colleges won't be playing football in the fall so this fight will be one of the biggest events on ESPN and they will get a lot of money from advertisers.

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August 13, 2020, 05:14:14 PM
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It looks like the fight is officially happening, and the great news is that it will be on regular cable instead of pay-per-view.

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1293709940121468928?s=20

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Breaking: Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo Lopez have agreed to terms for a lightweight title unification fight in mid-to-late October, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. Great progress made toward the fight headlining ESPN rather than PPV. Can’t wait for this one

I'm glad to hear this is already finalize, but if it's televise live, how would they make money when there's no crowd allowed for the fight .

Really curious with the decision and I'd like to know what would be the source of revenue for this particular fight.

Most colleges won't be playing football in the fall so this fight will be one of the biggest events on ESPN and they will get a lot of money from advertisers.

Due to social distancing the audiences would not be allowed in the event. More important for me the fight is happening and surely through advertising, rights, sponsorship etc the money would be made. There are different sources through which the money is made, and audiences are just one part of it which would be missing from this event.
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August 13, 2020, 06:47:46 PM
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It looks like the fight is officially happening, and the great news is that it will be on regular cable instead of pay-per-view.

https://twitter.com/MikeCoppinger/status/1293709940121468928?s=20

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Breaking: Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo Lopez have agreed to terms for a lightweight title unification fight in mid-to-late October, sources tell
@TheAthletic
. Great progress made toward the fight headlining ESPN rather than PPV. Can’t wait for this one

I'm glad to hear this is already finalize, but if it's televise live, how would they make money when there's no crowd allowed for the fight .

Really curious with the decision and I'd like to know what would be the source of revenue for this particular fight.

Most colleges won't be playing football in the fall so this fight will be one of the biggest events on ESPN and they will get a lot of money from advertisers.

Due to social distancing the audiences would not be allowed in the event. More important for me the fight is happening and surely through advertising, rights, sponsorship etc the money would be made. There are different sources through which the money is made, and audiences are just one part of it which would be missing from this event.

More on sponsors and advertisements  plus the gambling industries.

Promoters will not finalized the fight without the assurance of money, it's the very first thing from both
camp. They both agree for the price and with this announcement the deal was already settled.









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August 13, 2020, 10:41:44 PM
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Ok, good to hear that the fight is a go.

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“The whole world will see it and we will get more recognition when we beat Lomachenko, and that’s good for us,” Lopez Sr. said. “It’s going to be a beautiful fight between two great fighters doing the best that they can do to win.”

Lopez Sr. said they plan to sign the paperwork on Thursday.

“We came to an agreement,” McWater said. “The fight will take place later in October than Oct. 3 but we have a deal. It was a complicated deal but we made it. Arum and I have been talking and we finally got it done.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-lopez-deal-reached-october-team-lopez-pumped--150880

And probably Loma sacrifices $700k-$800k on his purse so that Lopez can get close to $2m which is what they are aiming for in this fight.

Yes, the revenue will come from advertisements and ESPN will make a lot of money from it.

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More on sponsors and advertisements
I understand this one, they will make money from advertisements as millions of people can watch this since it's free.

  plus the gambling industries.

However, I can seem to get what you mean that they will benefit from the gambling industry, in what way if you care to explain?

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More on sponsors and advertisements
I understand this one, they will make money from advertisements as millions of people can watch this since it's free.

  plus the gambling industries.

However, I can seem to get what you mean that they will benefit from the gambling industry, in what way if you care to explain?
Yeah, I also didn't get why gambling industries, it should be the other way around, fights gives those online gambling sites more money. ESPN will probably attract a lot of advertisements here companies are willing to pay them big money just to put their name on the televised fights. I'm predicting like 800,000 peak viewership here. Easy 300,000 and then when it's time for the main event, it will double or even triple in numbers. What do you say guys?

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August 14, 2020, 09:19:46 AM
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More on sponsors and advertisements
I understand this one, they will make money from advertisements as millions of people can watch this since it's free.

  plus the gambling industries.

However, I can seem to get what you mean that they will benefit from the gambling industry, in what way if you care to explain?
Yeah, I also didn't get why gambling industries,
They can only make money from gambling industries if they make this a scripted fight, or a rigged fight, but that would not happen as the reputation of both fighters will be at stake and the boxing organization as a whole.

it should be the other way around, fights gives those online gambling sites more money. ESPN will probably attract a lot of advertisements here companies are willing to pay them big money just to put their name on the televised fights. I'm predicting like 800,000 peak viewership here. Easy 300,000 and then when it's time for the main event, it will double or even triple in numbers. What do you say guys?

I think Lopez was asking at least $1 million in this fight, if the promoter can give it, so for sure he makes more than that from the ESPN.
For me it doesn't matter now, let them do their business as long as this fight will be realized and good thing we can watch it for free compared to what was previously reported.

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Teofimo Lopez is the best fighter for me with 15 wins without losses. In fact, they already have a career as a boxer in their blood and he inherited it from his parents that's why I believe in his ability because who is a parent who wants to hurt his son so much so obviously, that is impossible his father not to pour the hidden counterpunch.
Your argument is flawed, we have seen many boxers, father-and-son, and I would even say it's a common thing about boxers.

https://www.sportsbreak.com/boxing/the-12-best-father-and-son-boxing-duos/

So it's always like that not just in boxing but in any other sports as obviously, the parents are the first one to train their sons. But it doesn't mean that you can inherit your father's greatness in the ring, like Chavez Sr and Jr. Totally two different personality inside the ring.

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August 17, 2020, 11:02:40 AM
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Teofimo Lopez is the best fighter for me with 15 wins without losses. In fact, they already have a career as a boxer in their blood and he inherited it from his parents that's why I believe in his ability because who is a parent who wants to hurt his son so much so obviously, that is impossible his father not to pour the hidden counterpunch.

But it doesn't mean that when your father is a good fighter, you'll also be good, they both have different journey they take and both in different times.
Maybe he is full of training and knowledge about boxing but that doesn't guarantee he will be successful.

Yes,  Teofimo Lopez is undefeated, but Lomachenko  in the eyes of the people is the better fighter.

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August 17, 2020, 12:05:51 PM
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So, this fight is rescheduled to October 17 and thanks to Loma for salvaging this fight via a purse cut.

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On Saturday, October 17 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, USA Vasyl «Hi-Tech» Lomachenko will meet Teofimo «El Brooklyn» Lopez for WBO, IBF, WBA (Super) and The Ring titles in a 12-round lightweight bout.

Yes,  Teofimo Lopez is undefeated, but Lomachenko  in the eyes of the people is the better fighter.

The guy got talent and the quality of opposition that he have is better than that of Lopez. I was amazed on how he destroyed Guillermo Rigondeaux whom i think have good defense and the way he came back from that knockdown and KOed Linares with that liver shot.
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August 17, 2020, 01:42:53 PM
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The guy got talent .....

it's actually a special talent, Loma became popular because he beats quality opponent, he does fight the best in boxing just like Pacman.

I was amazed on how he destroyed Guillermo Rigondeaux whom i think have good defense

I saw that fight, Loma was a very tactical fighter, though Rigondeaux was known for his defense and fast foot work, but Lomachenko is a very smart guy, he knows what he is doing in the ring, he is just like dancing in a rhythm.

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and the way he came back from that knockdown and KOed Linares with that liver shot.

I didn't see this one, guess I'll check some youtube highlights on this fight.

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August 18, 2020, 06:06:26 AM
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So, this fight is rescheduled to October 17 and thanks to Loma for salvaging this fight via a purse cut.

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On Saturday, October 17 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, USA Vasyl «Hi-Tech» Lomachenko will meet Teofimo «El Brooklyn» Lopez for WBO, IBF, WBA (Super) and The Ring titles in a 12-round lightweight bout.

Yes,  Teofimo Lopez is undefeated, but Lomachenko  in the eyes of the people is the better fighter.

The guy got talent and the quality of opposition that he have is better than that of Lopez. I was amazed on how he destroyed Guillermo Rigondeaux whom i think have good defense and the way he came back from that knockdown and KOed Linares with that liver shot.

Rigondeaux said "no mas' to Loma. In paper it looks like this is a thing to watch, defensive boxer of Rigondeaux caliber. In reality though its different, one sided fight that's why Rigondeaux decided to quit in his stool in round six.

Although later Rigondeaux admitted that he has injured his hands that's why he quit. But he also said that Loma is a very technical fighter.

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August 19, 2020, 08:30:21 AM
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Although later Rigondeaux admitted that he has injured his hands that's why he quit. But he also said that Loma is a very technical fighter.

There is no round that Rigondeaux based on what I see, so even if he make that excuse that he  was injured, we can clearly tell that Loma was too much for him to handle, quitting is the best decision he made than force things that might only result of him getting KO'd, it will be remembered, not good for him. If it's really his injury is the reason, he can ask for a rematch, surely he will be given an opportunity.

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August 20, 2020, 08:21:11 AM
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Although later Rigondeaux admitted that he has injured his hands that's why he quit. But he also said that Loma is a very technical fighter.

There is no round that Rigondeaux based on what I see, so even if he make that excuse that he  was injured, we can clearly tell that Loma was too much for him to handle, quitting is the best decision he made than force things that might only result of him getting KO'd, it will be remembered, not good for him. If it's really his injury is the reason, he can ask for a rematch, surely he will be given an opportunity.

I'm not defending Rigo here, but it seems "bite more than you can chew". The fight is at 130 lbs, way to high for him as he haven't fought on that weight. Anyways, it's not about them though, it's Teo Lopez turn to try and beat the Loma here. And see if he will be the the next victim of NoMasChenko and take that 0 from Lopez.

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August 20, 2020, 10:41:55 AM
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it's Teo Lopez turn to try and beat the Loma here. And see if he will be the the next victim of NoMasChenko and take that 0 from Lopez.

Lopez is very confident, but it's gonna be different in the ring, LOMA here will certainly find Lopez weakness and exploit that.

I'm not seeing Lopez fans here, looks like we all vote for Lopez to win in the fight.

Poll would help though, requesting it from OP.

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September 08, 2020, 10:13:05 PM
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A little update on this big fight coming on October, the papers has been signed and it's official that this would take place on October 17 at the MGM Grand.

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Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo ‘The Takeover’ Lopez put ink to paper for their highly anticipated multi-belt lightweight title unification clash, which will take place October 17 live on ESPN from the MGM Grand Conference Center (“The Bubble”) in Las Vegas. The event was formally announced on Tuesday by Top Rank and ESPN as part of a stacked October schedule with headliners featuring title fights or bouts with title implications on every weekend in the month.

Also added a poll, let's see who got lot of fans here in the forum.
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Nice update, finally it's official and we can start putting our bets for this fight.
I would go for the underdog, Lomachenko is a very technical fighter, believe 90% he will win this fight but I will try to play as the Loma hater for this fight.

Hopefully Lopez, this kind is not a "no mas" for Lomachenko. yeah, no match, my own term.  

A little update on this big fight coming on October, the papers has been signed and it's official that this would take place on October 17 at the MGM Grand.

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Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo ‘The Takeover’ Lopez put ink to paper for their highly anticipated multi-belt lightweight title unification clash, which will take place October 17 live on ESPN from the MGM Grand Conference Center (“The Bubble”) in Las Vegas. The event was formally announced on Tuesday by Top Rank and ESPN as part of a stacked October schedule with headliners featuring title fights or bouts with title implications on every weekend in the month.

Also added a poll, let's see who got lot of fans here in the forum.

Voted, I don't mind to be the first and only one person to vote for Lopez here.  Grin

50/50 vote so far.
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A little update on this big fight coming on October, the papers has been signed and it's official that this would take place on October 17 at the MGM Grand.

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Also added a poll, let's see who got lot of fans here in the forum.

Thanks for the update, I voted for Loma.

@Sanitough - that's ok bro, that's why this makes this fight very exciting, as there are fans in both side, 50/50 fight. We won't hate you at all, what we don't like is that some posters completely trolling.

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A little update on this big fight coming on October, the papers has been signed and it's official that this would take place on October 17 at the MGM Grand.

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Vasiliy Lomachenko and Teofimo ‘The Takeover’ Lopez put ink to paper for their highly anticipated multi-belt lightweight title unification clash, which will take place October 17 live on ESPN from the MGM Grand Conference Center (“The Bubble”) in Las Vegas. The event was formally announced on Tuesday by Top Rank and ESPN as part of a stacked October schedule with headliners featuring title fights or bouts with title implications on every weekend in the month.

Also added a poll, let's see who got lot of fans here in the forum.

Thanks for the update, I voted for Loma.

@Sanitough - that's ok bro, that's why this makes this fight very exciting, as there are fans in both side, 50/50 fight. We won't hate you at all, what we don't like is that some posters completely trolling.

Not 50/50 anymore, 4 people voted for Loma to win while 1 only for Lopez, you are still alone sanitough with your fight, that's completely fading against the public if all of us will root for Loma while you alone voted for Lopez.
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September 18, 2020, 10:30:14 PM
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And for the record, Lopez confirms that there will be no rematch clause so this makes it more exciting,

https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-no-rematch-clause-contracts-lomachenko-fight--151764

Lopez has been in the media lately saying that he has no respect to Loma etc etc. I think this will motivate Loma more to shut down big mouth of Lopez, hehehe. Lopez here is acting more like a diva and the anti-hero or just trying to get into the head of Loma, but it might back fire on him.

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September 18, 2020, 10:32:42 PM
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As for the record, Lopez confirms that there will be no rematch clause so this makes it more exciting,

https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-no-rematch-clause-contracts-lomachenko-fight--151764

Lopez has been in the media lately saying that he has no respect to Loma etc etc. I think this will motivate Loma more to shut down big mouth of Lopez, hehehe. Lopez here is acting more like a diva and the anti-hero or just trying to get into the head of Loma, but it might back fire on him.

Ok that is good that there's no rematch clause, as they can go on their separate way to make new fights. It also makes me think that this is not going to be close though, either Lomachenko school this kid for good and regret bad mouthing him, or Teo Lopez knocking out Loma with his one punch. But I will predict the former though, Lomachenko is too good to lose to this arrogant kid.

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September 19, 2020, 08:23:33 AM
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And for the record, Lopez confirms that there will be no rematch clause so this makes it more exciting,

https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-no-rematch-clause-contracts-lomachenko-fight--151764

Lopez has been in the media lately saying that he has no respect to Loma etc etc. I think this will motivate Loma more to shut down big mouth of Lopez, hehehe. Lopez here is acting more like a diva and the anti-hero or just trying to get into the head of Loma, but it might back fire on him.
Usually the 'dog that barks doesn't bite', so this is what I'm seeing in Lopez here. He is not the favorite in this fight so I don't understand why he goes to the media and making this tirade. As far as the rematch clause? again, doesn't matter, they will cross path again specially if both of them move up in weight class in the future.

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September 19, 2020, 09:57:12 AM
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And for the record, Lopez confirms that there will be no rematch clause so this makes it more exciting,

https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-no-rematch-clause-contracts-lomachenko-fight--151764

Lopez has been in the media lately saying that he has no respect to Loma etc etc. I think this will motivate Loma more to shut down big mouth of Lopez, hehehe. Lopez here is acting more like a diva and the anti-hero or just trying to get into the head of Loma, but it might back fire on him.
Usually the 'dog that barks doesn't bite', so this is what I'm seeing in Lopez here.
Sometimes a fighter that talk too much could also be good in the ring, you'll never know, take Money for example, he is a perfect one.

He is not the favorite in this fight so I don't understand why he goes to the media and making this tirade. As far as the rematch clause? again, doesn't matter, they will cross path again specially if both of them move up in weight class in the future.
Please understand that they are desperately promoting the fight, without viewers of the fight, this would not be a success. Lopez here trying to be a marketing guy as Loma is not known for that, so let's just see and don't expect too much as the real fight is in the ring.

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September 19, 2020, 11:44:21 AM
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And for the record, Lopez confirms that there will be no rematch clause so this makes it more exciting,

https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-no-rematch-clause-contracts-lomachenko-fight--151764

Lopez has been in the media lately saying that he has no respect to Loma etc etc. I think this will motivate Loma more to shut down big mouth of Lopez, hehehe. Lopez here is acting more like a diva and the anti-hero or just trying to get into the head of Loma, but it might back fire on him.

Haha, Lopez is just helping Top Rank advertise this fight bro and it got the attention of some celebrities. An article showing on my social media feed which shows Damian Lillard rooting for Lopez because of youth factor  Smiley.

I admire Loma because he did not retaliate to the insults thrown on him by Lopez on social media, he just rather let his fist do the talking om the ring come October.
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September 19, 2020, 10:02:07 PM
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And for the record, Lopez confirms that there will be no rematch clause so this makes it more exciting,

https://www.boxingscene.com/teofimo-lopez-no-rematch-clause-contracts-lomachenko-fight--151764

Lopez has been in the media lately saying that he has no respect to Loma etc etc. I think this will motivate Loma more to shut down big mouth of Lopez, hehehe. Lopez here is acting more like a diva and the anti-hero or just trying to get into the head of Loma, but it might back fire on him.

Haha, Lopez is just helping Top Rank advertise this fight bro and it got the attention of some celebrities. An article showing on my social media feed which shows Damian Lillard rooting for Lopez because of youth factor  Smiley.

You really had to admire Lopez, talking trash against Loma here, lol, Dame might get disappointed though.

I admire Loma because he did not retaliate to the insults thrown on him by Lopez on social media, he just rather let his fist do the talking om the ring come October.

Yes, just like Manny, he do the talking in the ring and used his fist to shut the big mouths of their opponent. I think Lopez will later regret spewing all this insults.

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September 19, 2020, 11:06:43 PM
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I admire Loma because he did not retaliate to the insults thrown on him by Lopez on social media, he just rather let his fist do the talking om the ring come October.

Yes, just like Manny, he do the talking in the ring and used his fist to shut the big mouths of their opponent. I think Lopez will later regret spewing all this insults.

That would not happen, there's no regret, Lopez is not a fool and he knows he is an underdog in this fight, can lose against Loma but if he can sell the fight better, he will get a good share of the revenue, that's what boxers do now, they fight for money, big money so I don't really believe a lot on what they say as for all we know it's just a marketing technique.

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That would not happen, there's no regret, Lopez is not a fool and he knows he is an underdog in this fight, can lose against Loma but if he can sell the fight better, he will get a good share of the revenue, that's what boxers do now, they fight for money, big money so I don't really believe a lot on what they say as for all we know it's just a marketing technique.

I don't what's the share of Loma on the PPV buys or there is any in the contract, all we know is that Loma takes a cut in his pay so that Lopez will get a bigger share of the pie for this mega match to push through. But nonetheless, Lopez is doing a great job and it started to get into the nerve of some Loma fans lol. Yeah, i agree that when the final bell sounded they would embrace and said they are only doing their job and they have nothing against each other.
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September 20, 2020, 10:13:03 PM
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I admire Loma because he did not retaliate to the insults thrown on him by Lopez on social media, he just rather let his fist do the talking om the ring come October.

Yes, just like Manny, he do the talking in the ring and used his fist to shut the big mouths of their opponent. I think Lopez will later regret spewing all this insults.

That would not happen, there's no regret, Lopez is not a fool and he knows he is an underdog in this fight, can lose against Loma but if he can sell the fight better, he will get a good share of the revenue, that's what boxers do now, they fight for money, big money so I don't really believe a lot on what they say as for all we know it's just a marketing technique.

The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.

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I admire Loma because he did not retaliate to the insults thrown on him by Lopez on social media, he just rather let his fist do the talking om the ring come October.

Yes, just like Manny, he do the talking in the ring and used his fist to shut the big mouths of their opponent. I think Lopez will later regret spewing all this insults.

That would not happen, there's no regret, Lopez is not a fool and he knows he is an underdog in this fight, can lose against Loma but if he can sell the fight better, he will get a good share of the revenue, that's what boxers do now, they fight for money, big money so I don't really believe a lot on what they say as for all we know it's just a marketing technique.

The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.
So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

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I admire Loma because he did not retaliate to the insults thrown on him by Lopez on social media, he just rather let his fist do the talking om the ring come October.

Yes, just like Manny, he do the talking in the ring and used his fist to shut the big mouths of their opponent. I think Lopez will later regret spewing all this insults.

That would not happen, there's no regret, Lopez is not a fool and he knows he is an underdog in this fight, can lose against Loma but if he can sell the fight better, he will get a good share of the revenue, that's what boxers do now, they fight for money, big money so I don't really believe a lot on what they say as for all we know it's just a marketing technique.

The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.
So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.
if he says he is not satisfied with the pay but I think there is no way he will miss that much pay in a pandemic like this which requires a lot of money and is very difficult to get money again, at least someone is still able to pay him with such a nominal amount which is very good .

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So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If he can beat Lomachenko then he can ask a big amount of money $1 million is already a lot of money he is not a superstar to ask for a bigger paycheck, he must best Lomachenko and everything will follow, fame fortune money and that is if he beat Lomachecko, who is the real superstar here.

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I admire Loma because he did not retaliate to the insults thrown on him by Lopez on social media, he just rather let his fist do the talking om the ring come October.

Yes, just like Manny, he do the talking in the ring and used his fist to shut the big mouths of their opponent. I think Lopez will later regret spewing all this insults.

That would not happen, there's no regret, Lopez is not a fool and he knows he is an underdog in this fight, can lose against Loma but if he can sell the fight better, he will get a good share of the revenue, that's what boxers do now, they fight for money, big money so I don't really believe a lot on what they say as for all we know it's just a marketing technique.

The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.
So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If we look at the poll, yes most of the users here are thinking that Loma will prevail on this fight but if you are a Lopez believer then chances are that you will win big as Lopez had a very good odds for this one. Lopez' guaranteed purse rose to $1.5 million when Loma agreed to a pay cut to salvage the fight from cancellation.

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September 22, 2020, 11:23:39 AM
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So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If he can beat Lomachenko then he can ask a big amount of money $1 million is already a lot of money he is not a superstar to ask for a bigger paycheck, he must best Lomachenko and everything will follow, fame fortune money and that is if he beat Lomachecko, who is the real superstar here.

That should be his goal here, but the guy who is talking a lot may not talk in the ring and we might see another stellar win from Lomachenko. A million dollar paycheck during the pandemic, I think that's a huge amount already as not everyone now are willing to spend.

and yeah... everything will follow, but there's an "IF".... and that's the hardest thing to do against an undefeated fighter.

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The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.

Lomachenko is not fighting for money, he just want to kick Lopez's ass right away when they stepped in the ring. Now that Lomachenko has already sacrifice some grand just to make this fight happened, I'm pretty sure that we will gonna see some all out war from him. This is some serious match right here, I wonder if he can really make a red mark to Lopez's record.

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September 22, 2020, 08:02:18 PM
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The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.

Lomachenko is not fighting for money, he just want to kick Lopez's ass right away when they stepped in the ring. Now that Lomachenko has already sacrifice some grand just to make this fight happened, I'm pretty sure that we will gonna see some all out war from him. This is some serious match right here, I wonder if he can really make a red mark to Lopez's record.

Of course he's fighting for money, otherwise he would just beat whichever bum comes his way, including the dozens of top 50 guys that would love to get in the ring with him.

I've seen plenty of Lomachenko's fights fall through because they couldn't come to terms on pay grade.

I don't think Loma should take a pay cut just to ensure Lopez's purse though, that's beta AF. I guess it must have been the only high paying fight that was possible to make.
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The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.

Lomachenko is not fighting for money, he just want to kick Lopez's ass right away when they stepped in the ring. Now that Lomachenko has already sacrifice some grand just to make this fight happened, I'm pretty sure that we will gonna see some all out war from him. This is some serious match right here, I wonder if he can really make a red mark to Lopez's record.

He got the lion share of the split, so obviously Loma is fighting for the money. Boxing is a business now, did you hear that this fight didn't almost push through because Lopez demanded for money? So everyone is really looking for the money fight in boxing. Forget about fighters who says that they just want glory or something, boxing is one way to get someone become millionaire, example our very own Manny Pacquaio, it is a game changer, because it is career like any "professional" sports out there. Professional meaning you are getting paid big money.

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The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.

Lomachenko is not fighting for money, he just want to kick Lopez's ass right away when they stepped in the ring. Now that Lomachenko has already sacrifice some grand just to make this fight happened, I'm pretty sure that we will gonna see some all out war from him. This is some serious match right here, I wonder if he can really make a red mark to Lopez's record.

He got the lion share of the split, so obviously Loma is fighting for the money. Boxing is a business now, did you hear that this fight didn't almost push through because Lopez demanded for money? So everyone is really looking for the money fight in boxing. Forget about fighters who says that they just want glory or something, boxing is one way to get someone become millionaire, example our very own Manny Pacquaio, it is a game changer, because it is career like any "professional" sports out there. Professional meaning you are getting paid big money.

There are boxers like that, like Mayweather and Marquez, they will get a good payday if they will give pacman a fight but they would not respond as for sure they want to protect their legacy.

Check this out :

Marquez rejected $100 million for fifth Pacquiao fight.

While the Mayweather vs Manny rematch, we already know how much they will potentially make, but no answer for Money.

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There are boxers like that, like Mayweather and Marquez, they will get a good payday if they will give pacman a fight but they would not respond as for sure they want to protect their legacy.

Check this out :

Marquez rejected $100 million for fifth Pacquiao fight.

While the Mayweather vs Manny rematch, we already know how much they will potentially make, but no answer for Money.
Because most of these boxers are already rich and had already invested from their earnings in their boxing careers. 100M $ is not important to them what is good now is to avoid getting a bad reputation after retiring in boxing fight. Marquez is an example of this and he just wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao before because he can retire having bad reputation. Now that he beat pacquiao and knock out in their last fight his reputations become good. However, Manny Pacquiao after the loss still one of the hall of famer not because he was knock out in the last fight with Marquez that could bring down his reputation but through his achievement that manage to champion in 8 different weight divisions of boxing that made him the hall of famer in boxing.
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There are boxers like that, like Mayweather and Marquez, they will get a good payday if they will give pacman a fight but they would not respond as for sure they want to protect their legacy.

Check this out :

Marquez rejected $100 million for fifth Pacquiao fight.

While the Mayweather vs Manny rematch, we already know how much they will potentially make, but no answer for Money.
Because most of these boxers are already rich and had already invested from their earnings in their boxing careers. 100M $ is not important to them what is good now is to avoid getting a bad reputation after retiring in boxing fight. Marquez is an example of this and he just wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao before because he can retire having bad reputation. Now that he beat pacquiao and knock out in their last fight his reputations become good. However, Manny Pacquiao after the loss still one of the hall of famer not because he was knock out in the last fight with Marquez that could bring down his reputation but through his achievement that manage to champion in 8 different weight divisions of boxing that made him the hall of famer in boxing.

Then why Manny is still fighting? he is richer than Marquez for sure, and had a lot of businesses and investments as well. I can only think that Marquez here value's his legacy as the win against Manny wasn't really convincing, some called it a lucky punch but with respect to him, let's not think that way. lol

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There are boxers like that, like Mayweather and Marquez, they will get a good payday if they will give pacman a fight but they would not respond as for sure they want to protect their legacy.

Check this out :

Marquez rejected $100 million for fifth Pacquiao fight.

While the Mayweather vs Manny rematch, we already know how much they will potentially make, but no answer for Money.
Because most of these boxers are already rich and had already invested from their earnings in their boxing careers. 100M $ is not important to them what is good now is to avoid getting a bad reputation after retiring in boxing fight. Marquez is an example of this and he just wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao before because he can retire having bad reputation. Now that he beat pacquiao and knock out in their last fight his reputations become good. However, Manny Pacquiao after the loss still one of the hall of famer not because he was knock out in the last fight with Marquez that could bring down his reputation but through his achievement that manage to champion in 8 different weight divisions of boxing that made him the hall of famer in boxing.

Then why Manny is still fighting? he is richer than Marquez for sure, and had a lot of businesses and investments as well.
Manny is just exceptional, that's why we call him the living legend, he is still fighting because he can beat a younger champion and he has proven that in the fight against Thurman. If marquez will come back to fight Manny, I'm afraid there will be a series of fight after that.

Let Marquez retire and believe what he wants to believe, still we can't deny that Manny is the better fighter in overall.


I can only think that Marquez here value's his legacy as the win against Manny wasn't really convincing, some called it a lucky punch but with respect to him, let's not think that way. lol

of course that's what he wants to protect the fact that he doesn't want to fight Manny anymore.

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The split is already predetermined, Lopez is already guaranteed $ 1.x million, and there are no PPV here, that's why he was offered that big amount. Initially he has rejected it and Loma step up and agree to have his pay cut just to be able to salvage the fight. Of course, boxing now is business, trash talk and stuff, but most of the time, the fighters that is so loud mouth losses the fight, except perhaps for elite boxers such as Floyd Mayweather who can walk the walk and talk the talk.

Lomachenko is not fighting for money, he just want to kick Lopez's ass right away when they stepped in the ring. Now that Lomachenko has already sacrifice some grand just to make this fight happened, I'm pretty sure that we will gonna see some all out war from him. This is some serious match right here, I wonder if he can really make a red mark to Lopez's record.

He got the lion share of the split, so obviously Loma is fighting for the money. Boxing is a business now, did you hear that this fight didn't almost push through because Lopez demanded for money? So everyone is really looking for the money fight in boxing. Forget about fighters who says that they just want glory or something, boxing is one way to get someone become millionaire, example our very own Manny Pacquaio, it is a game changer, because it is career like any "professional" sports out there. Professional meaning you are getting paid big money.

There are boxers like that, like Mayweather and Marquez, they will get a good payday if they will give pacman a fight but they would not respond as for sure they want to protect their legacy.

Check this out :

Marquez rejected $100 million for fifth Pacquiao fight.

While the Mayweather vs Manny rematch, we already know how much they will potentially make, but no answer for Money.

But Floyd chooses an easy way out, fighting Conor for the same money that he could get fighting Manny Pacquiao. Which he did, as the fight was the biggest PPV in sporting history, eclipsing his first fight against Manny.

For Marquez, he really knows the score, he got lucky.  Smiley



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September 29, 2020, 05:00:15 AM
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Since this fight is just over two weeks ago, I check what the current odds are in Sportsbet:



Very attractive odds for Teo Lopez here, but it's hard to go against Loma as he is the more versatile of the two and Lopez is very young so I'm not seeing any upset here. Loma is too good, it might not go to the judges scorecard if Loma breaks down Teo. But for those who love underdogs, at least 1 mbtc won't hurt our pockets on Teo.

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There are boxers like that, like Mayweather and Marquez, they will get a good payday if they will give pacman a fight but they would not respond as for sure they want to protect their legacy.

Check this out :

Marquez rejected $100 million for fifth Pacquiao fight.

While the Mayweather vs Manny rematch, we already know how much they will potentially make, but no answer for Money.
Because most of these boxers are already rich and had already invested from their earnings in their boxing careers. 100M $ is not important to them what is good now is to avoid getting a bad reputation after retiring in boxing fight. Marquez is an example of this and he just wanted to fight Manny Pacquiao before because he can retire having bad reputation. Now that he beat pacquiao and knock out in their last fight his reputations become good. However, Manny Pacquiao after the loss still one of the hall of famer not because he was knock out in the last fight with Marquez that could bring down his reputation but through his achievement that manage to champion in 8 different weight divisions of boxing that made him the hall of famer in boxing.

Then why Manny is still fighting? he is richer than Marquez for sure, and had a lot of businesses and investments as well. I can only think that Marquez here value's his legacy as the win against Manny wasn't really convincing, some called it a lucky punch but with respect to him, let's not think that way. lol
Manny PAcquiao is still fighting because of His Political dream,In boxing he stays popular and famous specially when He has a fight and more when he Won.

though His reason for this coming fight against Conor Mcgregor is for part of the winning will be donated for the Covid19 victim.









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So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If he can beat Lomachenko then he can ask a big amount of money $1 million is already a lot of money he is not a superstar to ask for a bigger paycheck, he must best Lomachenko and everything will follow, fame fortune money and that is if he beat Lomachecko, who is the real superstar here.

He asked for big amount as his market in the future is at risk here, he is currently undefeated but some vouchers when their undefeated record is destroyed, they can't recover anymore, so that could be worth $1 million more or an opportunity destroyed by Lomachenko.

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So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If he can beat Lomachenko then he can ask a big amount of money $1 million is already a lot of money he is not a superstar to ask for a bigger paycheck, he must best Lomachenko and everything will follow, fame fortune money and that is if he beat Lomachecko, who is the real superstar here.

He asked for big amount as his market in the future is at risk here, he is currently undefeated but some vouchers when their undefeated record is destroyed, they can't recover anymore, so that could be worth $1 million more or an opportunity destroyed by Lomachenko.

which is correct, most of the time once you suffered defeats it's already hard to bounce back and bring your records. He's camp is thinking for the future they are staking against time in case Lomachenko destroyed Lopez totally.
The money will allow him to continue life just in case he won't get any good fight after this.
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So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If he can beat Lomachenko then he can ask a big amount of money $1 million is already a lot of money he is not a superstar to ask for a bigger paycheck, he must best Lomachenko and everything will follow, fame fortune money and that is if he beat Lomachecko, who is the real superstar here.

He asked for big amount as his market in the future is at risk here, he is currently undefeated but some vouchers when their undefeated record is destroyed, they can't recover anymore, so that could be worth $1 million more or an opportunity destroyed by Lomachenko.

which is correct, most of the time once you suffered defeats it's already hard to bounce back and bring your records. He's camp is thinking for the future they are staking against time in case Lomachenko destroyed Lopez totally.
The money will allow him to continue life just in case he won't get any good fight after this.

I don't think that if ever Lopez will lose in this fight, his career is over. The kid is a good boxer and he is taunted to be the successor of Loma in this division. Losing is just part of the game and for sure they can bounce back if ever that would happen to them just like some of the big names on this sports. Lopez camp feels that they deserve for a bigger paychecks that's why they asked for it and fortunately for them Loma shared some slice of his pie to Lopez to make this fight possible.
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So we can expect that Lopez will lose in this fight? Hmm... that's what most of us are thinking for sure, and that's why the odds for Lopez is so good if you are a believer of him. $1 million guaranteed money, I think I read a news in the past that he wasn't contented with the pay, correct me if I'm wrong.

If he can beat Lomachenko then he can ask a big amount of money $1 million is already a lot of money he is not a superstar to ask for a bigger paycheck, he must best Lomachenko and everything will follow, fame fortune money and that is if he beat Lomachecko, who is the real superstar here.

He asked for big amount as his market in the future is at risk here, he is currently undefeated but some vouchers when their undefeated record is destroyed, they can't recover anymore, so that could be worth $1 million more or an opportunity destroyed by Lomachenko.

which is correct, most of the time once you suffered defeats it's already hard to bounce back and bring your records. He's camp is thinking for the future they are staking against time in case Lomachenko destroyed Lopez totally.
The money will allow him to continue life just in case he won't get any good fight after this.

I don't think that if ever Lopez will lose in this fight, his career is over. The kid is a good boxer and he is taunted to be the successor of Loma in this division. Losing is just part of the game and for sure they can bounce back if ever that would happen to them just like some of the big names on this sports. Lopez camp feels that they deserve for a bigger paychecks that's why they asked for it and fortunately for them Loma shared some slice of his pie to Lopez to make this fight possible.

Agree with that, as long as he can still fight even if let's say he will lose against Loma, he still have a chance to come back since he is still young. If an old boxer could come back like Pacman when he lose against Marquez or even Horn, then this young boxer has a big chance.

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This is what Loma has to say about Lopez trash-talking:

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“In my country, if you insult somebody, you’d better be prepared for them to hurt you. If we were in my country, he’d learn pretty quick he can’t run his mouth,” said Lomachenko. “If I get a chance to cause him pain, I’m going to do it.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-lopez-talks-too-much-if-you-insult-me-prepare-pain--152134

We might see another Conor vs Khabib beatdown here. When a outspoken fighter such as Loma talks about causing pain to Lopez, expect that he will really go for it. We might see Lopez quitting in his stool here, Lol.

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This is what Loma has to say about Lopez trash-talking:

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“In my country, if you insult somebody, you’d better be prepared for them to hurt you. If we were in my country, he’d learn pretty quick he can’t run his mouth,” said Lomachenko. “If I get a chance to cause him pain, I’m going to do it.”
Sooner or later, we will hear Lomachenko response to all that Lopez is spewing. And it's good that we hear it straight from Loma's mouth how he takes Lopez trashing him, not respecting him in public. And with the way he responded, it seems that Loma is taking this fight personally. And this might spell doom for Lopez and he really needs to prepare very hard for this fight.

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We might see another Conor vs Khabib beatdown here. When a outspoken fighter such as Loma talks about causing pain to Lopez, expect that he will really go for it. We might see Lopez quitting in his stool here, Lol.
How many fighters says that they are going to make Loma quit, however, it's the other way. Of course, this trash talk somewhat brings excitement in the fight and then we see who can talk the talk here. Lopez thinks he can beat Loma, but Loma wanted to cause pain and shut his mouth. Now, boxing fans gets excited, but PPV even if it is expensive in hope to see a good fight. And I do hope it will live up to the expectations.

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We might see another Conor vs Khabib beatdown here. When a outspoken fighter such as Loma talks about causing pain to Lopez, expect that he will really go for it. We might see Lopez quitting in his stool here, Lol.
How many fighters says that they are going to make Loma quit, however, it's the other way. Of course, this trash talk somewhat brings excitement in the fight and then we see who can talk the talk here. Lopez thinks he can beat Loma, but Loma wanted to cause pain and shut his mouth. Now, boxing fans gets excited, but PPV even if it is expensive in hope to see a good fight. And I do hope it will live up to the expectations.

It's no PPV anymore, this fight can be watch free, thanks to ESPN.

https://www.boxingscene.com/bob-arum-espn-stepped-up-keep-lomachenko-lopez-off-pay-per-view--151004

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Bob Arum: ESPN Stepped Up To Keep Lomachenko-Lopez Off Pay-Per-View

Bob Arum remained confident, even as negotiations annoyingly became public knowledge, that his promotional company could finalize contracts for Vasiliy Lomachenko to fight Teofimo Lopez.

Now that it’s a done deal, the 88-year-old promoter is even more satisfied that Lomachenko-Lopez will air live on ESPN. Arum told BoxingScene.com late in July that televising Lomachenko-Lopez live on ESPN remained a viable option, but that didn’t become a reality until college football conferences began postponing seasons and ESPN offered a larger license fee to keep their lightweight title unification fight off pay-per-view and even ESPN+, the network’s $6-per-month streaming service.
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October 02, 2020, 10:05:53 PM
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We might see another Conor vs Khabib beatdown here. When a outspoken fighter such as Loma talks about causing pain to Lopez, expect that he will really go for it. We might see Lopez quitting in his stool here, Lol.
How many fighters says that they are going to make Loma quit, however, it's the other way. Of course, this trash talk somewhat brings excitement in the fight and then we see who can talk the talk here. Lopez thinks he can beat Loma, but Loma wanted to cause pain and shut his mouth. Now, boxing fans gets excited, but PPV even if it is expensive in hope to see a good fight. And I do hope it will live up to the expectations.

That's why I say that it might be a beatdown because Loma is also a tough fighter. And his opponents are trying to play mind games against him. And so far no one has succeeded because Loma knows that he is superior to any fighters that we have right now in his division. And with Lopez not stopping his mouth, and with the way Loma responded, I'm expecting him to school Lopez in whichever way he can.

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October 06, 2020, 02:08:13 PM
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.

Here is the new trailer, just click the image to go to the Video.





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October 06, 2020, 08:38:21 PM
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.

Here is the new trailer, just click the image to go to the Video.

Thanks for for video mate. Yup, this is getting very exciting as it's only a few before we can see again a fight involving a fighter on the top ten of the Pound for Pound ranking. Loma should be getting this one as this is wish to have a unified belt before hanging his gloves for good but he could not be overconfident here because this Lopez is a very capable fighter to replace him in the podium.

Still the odds is 1.22 for Loma, is it worth the risk?
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October 07, 2020, 09:36:00 PM
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.

Here is the new trailer, just click the image to go to the Video.

Thanks for for video mate. Yup, this is getting very exciting as it's only a few before we can see again a fight involving a fighter on the top ten of the Pound for Pound ranking. Loma should be getting this one as this is wish to have a unified belt before hanging his gloves for good but he could not be overconfident here because this Lopez is a very capable fighter to replace him in the podium.

Still the odds is 1.22 for Loma, is it worth the risk?

Perhaps we could look at the undercards and see if we can bet on a parlay:

Saucedo-Barboza
Berlanga-Bellows

Unfortunately, I haven't seen the odds of both fights in sportsbet. It would be nice if they can also include the two as well to increase our odds or get good returns at least.

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October 08, 2020, 10:33:51 AM
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.

Here is the new trailer, just click the image to go to the Video.

Thanks for for video mate. Yup, this is getting very exciting as it's only a few before we can see again a fight involving a fighter on the top ten of the Pound for Pound ranking. Loma should be getting this one as this is wish to have a unified belt before hanging his gloves for good but he could not be overconfident here because this Lopez is a very capable fighter to replace him in the podium.

Still the odds is 1.22 for Loma, is it worth the risk?

Perhaps we could look at the undercards and see if we can bet on a parlay:

Saucedo-Barboza
Berlanga-Bellows

Unfortunately, I haven't seen the odds of both fights in sportsbet. It would be nice if they can also include the two as well to increase our odds or get good returns at least.


Honestly I don't bet on undercard especially if I don't know them, Loma I know him because he is an exciting partner and actually I check the odds again now and it's only 1.20, bu if you'll use a price boost you'll get 1.22, not much though but since Loma is great, I think it's worth to risk at that odds.

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October 08, 2020, 06:11:43 PM
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.


I think Lomachenko is right in thinking that he got the match in the 'bag', he is going to win. The reason I say this is because I have seen him fight, I've seen his style and there's no way he's going to lose. He's known as the best in his weight division. That's what sparks my opinion on the outcome of this match.

Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.
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October 08, 2020, 10:05:24 PM
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.


Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.

That's what the rest of the fighters Loma has face before, they think that they have a good chance to win, however, inside the boxing arena, Loma just played with them and made them quit.

Nicolas Walters was undefeated when he fought Loma, - he quit
Jason Sosa with 1 lost - he quit
Marriaga with 2 lost - he quit
Rigondeaux 0 lost - he quit

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October 08, 2020, 10:28:37 PM
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.


Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.

That's what the rest of the fighters Loma has face before, they think that they have a good chance to win, however, inside the boxing arena, Loma just played with them and made them quit.

Nicolas Walters was undefeated when he fought Loma, - he quit
Jason Sosa with 1 lost - he quit
Marriaga with 2 lost - he quit
Rigondeaux 0 lost - he quit


Nice stats, though I didn't see all the fights but I saw how Loma defeated Nicolas Walters and Rigondeaux, and I am more impressed on how Loma's approach against Rigondeaux as it's hard to beat a very defensive fighter but that fight we saw how technical he is.

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October 09, 2020, 10:24:09 AM
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.


Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.

That's what the rest of the fighters Loma has face before, they think that they have a good chance to win, however, inside the boxing arena, Loma just played with them and made them quit.

Nicolas Walters was undefeated when he fought Loma, - he quit
Jason Sosa with 1 lost - he quit
Marriaga with 2 lost - he quit
Rigondeaux 0 lost - he quit


Nice stats, though I didn't see all the fights but I saw how Loma defeated Nicolas Walters and Rigondeaux, and I am more impressed on how Loma's approach against Rigondeaux as it's hard to beat a very defensive fighter but that fight we saw how technical he is.

This one should be easier for Loma as  Teofimo Lopez is an aggressive boxer, if  Teofimo Lopez will not back down or will not change his style then surely we will see an exciting match. TBH, the fight of Loma against Rigondeaux is not exciting as it's clearly a one sided fight, no challenge for Loma in that fight and I don't like to see boxers quitting because they can't take anymore the power of their opponent, hopefully Lopez is different.

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October 09, 2020, 11:00:12 AM
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.


Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.

That's what the rest of the fighters Loma has face before, they think that they have a good chance to win, however, inside the boxing arena, Loma just played with them and made them quit.

Nicolas Walters was undefeated when he fought Loma, - he quit
Jason Sosa with 1 lost - he quit
Marriaga with 2 lost - he quit
Rigondeaux 0 lost - he quit


Nice stats, though I didn't see all the fights but I saw how Loma defeated Nicolas Walters and Rigondeaux, and I am more impressed on how Loma's approach against Rigondeaux as it's hard to beat a very defensive fighter but that fight we saw how technical he is.

This one should be easier for Loma as  Teofimo Lopez is an aggressive boxer, if  Teofimo Lopez will not back down or will not change his style then surely we will see an exciting match. TBH, the fight of Loma against Rigondeaux is not exciting as it's clearly a one sided fight, no challenge for Loma in that fight and I don't like to see boxers quitting because they can't take anymore the power of their opponent, hopefully Lopez is different.
It's a snoozer fight, Rigo is a defensive fighter but Loma was able to get into his defense and hit Rigo at will. Although Rigo try to fight back, but it was Loma who are really that elusive that fight and not the other way around. For Walters, it's the same, Loma can't be hit, and he completely play with Nicolas and was outclassed. I'm seeing Loma will do that same to Lopez, and will frustrate him until he quit just like the rest.

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October 09, 2020, 02:47:33 PM
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We might see another Conor vs Khabib beatdown here. When a outspoken fighter such as Loma talks about causing pain to Lopez, expect that he will really go for it. We might see Lopez quitting in his stool here, Lol.
All the boxers that faced Lomachenko usually quit in the corner and before the fight they talk the big talk but after getting in the ring everyone will understand the skill level which is much above their brain could scramble and hence they quite after getting hit repeatedly and Lomachenko toying with them and they have no offense in return.
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.


I think Lomachenko is right in thinking that he got the match in the 'bag', he is going to win. The reason I say this is because I have seen him fight, I've seen his style and there's no way he's going to lose. He's known as the best in his weight division. That's what sparks my opinion on the outcome of this match.

Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.
I would really convinced myself that this one isnt a one sided fight once again just like on the past fights that Loma had.On the last 3 recent fights he had then 2 of them are on Unanimous Decision fighting
on Campbell and on Pedraza.

This man is a serious technical fighter even how defensive the boxer is, he can really find the way on cracking it out until he do able to break it.Not to underestimate Teofimo but i cant really see
a reason for this man to had the chance.

Lets see on what would happen if theres something up to his sleeve to showcase that he would really able to cope up.

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October 09, 2020, 09:56:39 PM
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.


I think Lomachenko is right in thinking that he got the match in the 'bag', he is going to win. The reason I say this is because I have seen him fight, I've seen his style and there's no way he's going to lose. He's known as the best in his weight division. That's what sparks my opinion on the outcome of this match.

Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.
I respect your belief about Lomachenko words to have the fight in the bag but you of all people should know that boxing fight is not won by statements which are hype base and I did some research about sports professional these days some of them seems to be affected by the COVID 19 issues reason which i guess was lack of proper training or the quarantine make them partake in some activities they ought to desist.

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We might see another Conor vs Khabib beatdown here. When a outspoken fighter such as Loma talks about causing pain to Lopez, expect that he will really go for it. We might see Lopez quitting in his stool here, Lol.
All the boxers that faced Lomachenko usually quit in the corner and before the fight they talk the big talk but after getting in the ring everyone will understand the skill level which is much above their brain could scramble and hence they quite after getting hit repeatedly and Lomachenko toying with them and they have no offense in return.
Lomachenko's opponent have done their job before the fight and that is to promote the fight, if they get the viewers, that's guaranteed money for them so they'll stop working in the ring especially if they felt the power of Loma, in his past fights we saw some who quit early to prevent damages from Loma, and he had some streak win wit that trend. 

Refreshing my memory with his record and looking at https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771




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A corner retirement[1][2][3] or corner stoppage,[4][5] abbreviated "RTD" by BoxRec, are terms used in boxing to describe a fight that ends when, during any rest period between rounds, a boxer refuses to continue or their corner pulls them out, thereby forcing the referee to call an end to the fight. In contrast, a technical knockout (TKO) may only be declared by the referee or ringside doctor, at any stage of the fight including rest periods. In either case, an RTD still counts as a type of knockout, and is displayed as a stoppage result on a boxer's win/loss record.

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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.


I think Lomachenko is right in thinking that he got the match in the 'bag', he is going to win. The reason I say this is because I have seen him fight, I've seen his style and there's no way he's going to lose. He's known as the best in his weight division. That's what sparks my opinion on the outcome of this match.

Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.
I respect your belief about Lomachenko words to have the fight in the bag but you of all people should know that boxing fight is not won by statements which are hype base and I did some research about sports professional these days some of them seems to be affected by the COVID 19 issues reason which i guess was lack of proper training or the quarantine make them partake in some activities they ought to desist.
On the contrary though, the covid-19 effect could have a positive impact to fighters as they are isolated and could train really hard for their upcoming fights? But I do agree that Lopez has chance to win, we have seen fights in the past wherein it was in the last round that a fighter change the outcome of the game. However though, boxing fans sees Lomachenko technical abilities superior to Lopez, that's why a one sided fight in favor of Lomachenko is anticipated.

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Just sharing the current odds, It was @1.22 few days ago and now down to @1.20. Gamblers really know who's going to win in this fight and those who are smart bettors, might throw big money bet on Loma for the win.



@Russlenat - thanks for that info, but RTD=Nomaschenko,  Cheesy

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October 10, 2020, 12:26:05 AM
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.


Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.

That's what the rest of the fighters Loma has face before, they think that they have a good chance to win, however, inside the boxing arena, Loma just played with them and made them quit.

Nicolas Walters was undefeated when he fought Loma, - he quit
Jason Sosa with 1 lost - he quit
Marriaga with 2 lost - he quit
Rigondeaux 0 lost - he quit


Lomachenco vs Rigondeaux is the fight i'm most amazed on the talent of Loma. Donaire lost to Rigondeaux because the former can't get a clean shot as Rigondeaux was always running away from him but Loma destroyed Rigondeaux with ease lol.

@Baofeng, that 1.20 odds will go further south one day before the fight so better pull the trigger now lol.
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October 10, 2020, 01:03:54 PM
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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.


I think Lomachenko is right in thinking that he got the match in the 'bag', he is going to win. The reason I say this is because I have seen him fight, I've seen his style and there's no way he's going to lose. He's known as the best in his weight division. That's what sparks my opinion on the outcome of this match.

Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.
I respect your belief about Lomachenko words to have the fight in the bag but you of all people should know that boxing fight is not won by statements which are hype base and I did some research about sports professional these days some of them seems to be affected by the COVID 19 issues reason which i guess was lack of proper training or the quarantine make them partake in some activities they ought to desist.
On the contrary though, the covid-19 effect could have a positive impact to fighters as they are isolated and could train really hard for their upcoming fights? But I do agree that Lopez has chance to win, we have seen fights in the past wherein it was in the last round that a fighter change the outcome of the game. However though, boxing fans sees Lomachenko technical abilities superior to Lopez, that's why a one sided fight in favor of Lomachenko is anticipated.
I agree with what you said but I only dont agree with the aspect of the conclusion about the fight that's yet to kick-off and from my own point of  view despite all technical abilities of Loma, Lopez also has the chance of winning the fight until the fight come to an end.

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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.


Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.

That's what the rest of the fighters Loma has face before, they think that they have a good chance to win, however, inside the boxing arena, Loma just played with them and made them quit.

Nicolas Walters was undefeated when he fought Loma, - he quit
Jason Sosa with 1 lost - he quit
Marriaga with 2 lost - he quit
Rigondeaux 0 lost - he quit


Lomachenco vs Rigondeaux is the fight i'm most amazed on the talent of Loma. Donaire lost to Rigondeaux because the former can't get a clean shot as Rigondeaux was always running away from him but Loma destroyed Rigondeaux with ease lol.

@Baofeng, that 1.20 odds will go further south one day before the fight so better pull the trigger now lol.

Yes, Loma vs Rigo was one of the most hype and anticipated fight (at least for me) because it pitted two of the best Olympians that move up to professional boxer. However, it didn't live up to the hype as the fight is boring and one sided beating coming from the hands of Loma, it's not even close and then Rigo was frustrated and just quit.

As for the odds, yeah, maybe @1.17-@1.19 during fight night, I'm still inclined to pull the trigger though, lol.

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The fight is going to be exciting since these two will fight for the unification title. Have you guys seen the new trailer on YouTube by TopRank Boxing? Lomachenko wanted to own the three belts for himself and I think he has the advantage for this fight if he won't gonna mess up in the ring when the fight begins.


I think Lomachenko is right in thinking that he got the match in the 'bag', he is going to win. The reason I say this is because I have seen him fight, I've seen his style and there's no way he's going to lose. He's known as the best in his weight division. That's what sparks my opinion on the outcome of this match.

Teofimo is good and I'm sure he will challenge Lomachenko but I don' think he's at Loma's level. Let's see how this plays out, my bet is on Loma.
I respect your belief about Lomachenko words to have the fight in the bag but you of all people should know that boxing fight is not won by statements which are hype base and I did some research about sports professional these days some of them seems to be affected by the COVID 19 issues reason which i guess was lack of proper training or the quarantine make them partake in some activities they ought to desist.
On the contrary though, the covid-19 effect could have a positive impact to fighters as they are isolated and could train really hard for their upcoming fights? But I do agree that Lopez has chance to win, we have seen fights in the past wherein it was in the last round that a fighter change the outcome of the game. However though, boxing fans sees Lomachenko technical abilities superior to Lopez, that's why a one sided fight in favor of Lomachenko is anticipated.
I agree with what you said but I only dont agree with the aspect of the conclusion about the fight that's yet to kick-off and from my own point of  view despite all technical abilities of Loma, Lopez also has the chance of winning the fight until the fight come to an end.
Definitely, Lopez has chance, perhaps the opinion is coming from Loma's past performance on how he dismantle his opponents not just physically but mentally as well (big advantage, imo), making them say no mas to him. Anyway, the fight is just a couple of weeks from now, there could be some disagreements, but it will be eventually settled in the ring, and obviously Lopez is the underdog in this fight.

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Definitely, Lopez has chance, perhaps the opinion is coming from Loma's past performance on how he dismantle his opponents not just physically but mentally as well (big advantage, imo), making them say no mas to him.
Based on the betting odds, Loma is expected to win this fight, Lopez chance is only small but we won't know what would happen, so let's just continue speculating and enjoy watching this fight, with our bets of course.

Anyway, the fight is just a couple of weeks from now, there could be some disagreements, but it will be eventually settled in the ring, and obviously Lopez is the underdog in this fight.
Probably one of the best fights in boxing this pandemic, both are good fighters, have an aggressive style, so definitely it will entertain the crowd in their respective home.

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Anyway, the fight is just a couple of weeks from now, there could be some disagreements, but it will be eventually settled in the ring, and obviously Lopez is the underdog in this fight.
Probably one of the best fights in boxing this pandemic, both are good fighters, have an aggressive style, so definitely it will entertain the crowd in their respective home.

Yes, this could be the best fights in paper in this pandemic specially in the lower division and then probably next is Davis vs Sta Cruz. Stylistically, they are also match, aggressive one and young fighter in Lopez and the underdog who wants to proved his worth, and then the tactician and pound 4 pound right now.

So I'm seeing Lopez really coming early being aggressive and testing Loma, first 3 rounds will be a epic, but I think after that Loma will take over the fight and dominate the next rounds and win.

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October 11, 2020, 09:00:18 AM
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Anyway, the fight is just a couple of weeks from now, there could be some disagreements, but it will be eventually settled in the ring, and obviously Lopez is the underdog in this fight.
Probably one of the best fights in boxing this pandemic, both are good fighters, have an aggressive style, so definitely it will entertain the crowd in their respective home.

Yes, this could be the best fights in paper in this pandemic specially in the lower division and then probably next is Davis vs Sta Cruz. Stylistically, they are also match, aggressive one and young fighter in Lopez and the underdog who wants to proved his worth, and then the tactician and pound 4 pound right now.

So I'm seeing Lopez really coming early being aggressive and testing Loma, first 3 rounds will be a epic, but I think after that Loma will take over the fight and dominate the next rounds and win.

Lopez here is trying to beat the number 1 pound for pound, this is his ticket to success so he should it right and win impressively.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28785006/pound-pound-rankings-tyson-fury-makes-debut

Lopez not even in the top 10 but if he beats Loma, he will surely be listed among the greats of boxing.

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October 11, 2020, 11:50:56 AM
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I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.
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October 11, 2020, 11:55:04 AM
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I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

I'm beginning to like Teofimo Lopez camp's confidence, they will eat their trash in the ring as Loma though fighting C-fighters but he is still an A-Fighter who can beat an A-Fighter, Lopez should preserve that confidence in the ring, I don't want to see him  fighting with no confident left as he was already releasing it all before the fight.

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October 11, 2020, 12:41:50 PM
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I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

I'm beginning to like Teofimo Lopez camp's confidence, they will eat their trash in the ring as Loma though fighting C-fighters but he is still an A-Fighter who can beat an A-Fighter, Lopez should preserve that confidence in the ring, I don't want to see him  fighting with no confident left as he was already releasing it all before the fight.

Just watch half of the video, but I completely stop, I mean his father is really looking very confident and that's scary when you talk like that. I mean, Loma has face a lot of great fighters and I wouldn't say the last 3 was C-fighters though, and it seems that I found some contradictory statements. They said that they are the one who chases Loma, but then almost back out when there is not enough money on the table? It's good that Loma is willing to have his pay cut just to accommodate them and have this fight continue. But if you are the one chasing, then regardless of the money being offered, you will take the fight.

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I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

I'm beginning to like Teofimo Lopez camp's confidence, they will eat their trash in the ring as Loma though fighting C-fighters but he is still an A-Fighter who can beat an A-Fighter, Lopez should preserve that confidence in the ring, I don't want to see him  fighting with no confident left as he was already releasing it all before the fight.

This is normal trash talking. This is just the usual way to heat up the incoming fight at the same time to boost their team and their fighter. But this is not the kind of dirty trash talking that involves attacks on the personal aspects of their lives. I see no problem with this.

But the real odds will always come out into the surface because gamblers are very objective. This is the reason why the odds are even falling more from Lomachenko. The result must be very clear to many that Lomachenko is the better boxer overall.
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October 11, 2020, 10:58:47 PM
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I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

I'm beginning to like Teofimo Lopez camp's confidence, they will eat their trash in the ring as Loma though fighting C-fighters but he is still an A-Fighter who can beat an A-Fighter, Lopez should preserve that confidence in the ring, I don't want to see him  fighting with no confident left as he was already releasing it all before the fight.

This is normal trash talking. This is just the usual way to heat up the incoming fight at the same time to boost their team and their fighter. But this is not the kind of dirty trash talking that involves attacks on the personal aspects of their lives. I see no problem with this.

But the real odds will always come out into the surface because gamblers are very objective. This is the reason why the odds are even falling more from Lomachenko. The result must be very clear to many that Lomachenko is the better boxer overall.

Yes, I agree, I would have to say that the father is the more trash talker than his son. Actually that is the case in manny father-son trainer-boxer combo in boxing. Just listen to Angel Garcia, father of Danny Garcia, or Floyd Sr. It's because they really believed on their son's ability and they will really high light and talk negative about their opponents, no matter who the fighter their son is going to face. And at the end of the day, only his son will step on the square canvass and he can't help him out. We will see, it's less than a week from now.

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October 11, 2020, 11:18:35 PM
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And at the end of the day, only his son will step on the square canvass and he can't help him out. We will see, it's less than a week from now.

Exactly, and they understand that for sure. The reason they are talking trash to their opponent is simply to sell the game, that strategy is very successful with Mayweather, talking trash to his opponent makes him earn more money, we should not fall for that but just study the fight and let our bet be in the right side.

I just want some confirmation, is the fight this coming October 17?
https://www.fightmag.com.au/2020/09/14/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-official-poster-released/

If so, maybe OP can add a date in the thread title so it will be a sort of reminder to us, don't wanna miss this game.

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October 12, 2020, 10:54:49 AM
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And at the end of the day, only his son will step on the square canvass and he can't help him out. We will see, it's less than a week from now.

Exactly, and they understand that for sure. The reason they are talking trash to their opponent is simply to sell the game, that strategy is very successful with Mayweather, talking trash to his opponent makes him earn more money, we should not fall for that but just study the fight and let our bet be in the right side.

I just want some confirmation, is the fight this coming October 17?
https://www.fightmag.com.au/2020/09/14/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-official-poster-released/

If so, maybe OP can add a date in the thread title so it will be a sort of reminder to us, don't wanna miss this game.

Yeah, that's what is written in one of the sportsbook I'm using, and I believe sportsbook won't publish a betting odds if the schedule is not final.

This is one sportsbook only, but I'm sure it's the same with others who have the same odds provider.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/lomachenko-vasyl-lopez-teofimo-5f5e269338b1f4caf76b508a

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I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

I'm beginning to like Teofimo Lopez camp's confidence, they will eat their trash in the ring as Loma though fighting C-fighters but he is still an A-Fighter who can beat an A-Fighter, Lopez should preserve that confidence in the ring, I don't want to see him  fighting with no confident left as he was already releasing it all before the fight.

Who wouldn't like this kid? I mean he has all the wares and tools to be a good fighter? But sometimes too much talk really damage their reputation specially if they can't back it up? Specially against a good fighter like Loma. And sometimes this kind of fighter was not the same after the lost. They could have suffered mentally after a devastating lost and they make a fool of themselves with that thrash talk.

So I do hope that his father's mouth won't ruin him because he has a bright future. It's different with the fighter themselves talk big mouth, but when a father training gets involved emotionally, it come come back to haunt them.
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I'd try to search for the latest video about this fight and this is what I got, from the Lopez camp, specifically from Lopez Sr.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRTAJIvnOxM

He is also talking trash and very confident that his son will beat Loma. And he is saying that the last 3 fights of Loma was all with a C-fighters. And he says that his son will break Loma, because Jr, is an intelligent fighter, but I think the betting public and the bookies thinks otherwise, as Loma is a 4-1 favourite.

He even questions the way Loma's father is training Vasily, it sound though that Lopez Sr is obviously an old school training.

I'm beginning to like Teofimo Lopez camp's confidence, they will eat their trash in the ring as Loma though fighting C-fighters but he is still an A-Fighter who can beat an A-Fighter, Lopez should preserve that confidence in the ring, I don't want to see him  fighting with no confident left as he was already releasing it all before the fight.

This is normal trash talking. This is just the usual way to heat up the incoming fight at the same time to boost their team and their fighter. But this is not the kind of dirty trash talking that involves attacks on the personal aspects of their lives. I see no problem with this.

But the real odds will always come out into the surface because gamblers are very objective. This is the reason why the odds are even falling more from Lomachenko. The result must be very clear to many that Lomachenko is the better boxer overall.

Yes, I agree, I would have to say that the father is the more trash talker than his son. Actually that is the case in manny father-son trainer-boxer combo in boxing. Just listen to Angel Garcia, father of Danny Garcia, or Floyd Sr. It's because they really believed on their son's ability and they will really high light and talk negative about their opponents, no matter who the fighter their son is going to face. And at the end of the day, only his son will step on the square canvass and he can't help him out. We will see, it's less than a week from now.

This is actually the funny part in many promotion tours. Oftentimes the heaviest trash talkers are not really the fighters. It is either the fathers or the members of the team, sometimes the coach also. And sometimes they are the ones who also get into trouble. How many fathers are actually challenging each other for a fight in passionately promoting for their son's match? Lol. 
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This is actually the funny part in many promotion tours. Oftentimes the heaviest trash talkers are not really the fighters. It is either the fathers or the members of the team, sometimes the coach also. And sometimes they are the ones who also get into trouble. How many fathers are actually challenging each other for a fight in passionately promoting for their son's match? Lol. 

That is because the two fighters are not good enough to taunt each other, they need their teams to make the fight exciting to watch. But this is just part of the marketing for the fans to look forward to the fight because, without this kind of sauce, the fight will not be exciting. Like what we have seen before the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight. Thurman trash talk Pacquiao to the point he calls him some names "T-Rex Arms" to be precise and people are cheering for Pacquiao to give Thurman some lesson and it happened. They need this kind of strategy before the fight to make it more exciting when it begins.

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October 12, 2020, 02:20:47 PM
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This is actually the funny part in many promotion tours. Oftentimes the heaviest trash talkers are not really the fighters. It is either the fathers or the members of the team, sometimes the coach also. And sometimes they are the ones who also get into trouble. How many fathers are actually challenging each other for a fight in passionately promoting for their son's match? Lol. 

That is because the two fighters are not good enough to taunt each other, they need their teams to make the fight exciting to watch. But this is just part of the marketing for the fans to look forward to the fight because, without this kind of sauce, the fight will not be exciting. Like what we have seen before the Thurman vs Pacquiao fight. Thurman trash talk Pacquiao to the point he calls him some names "T-Rex Arms" to be precise and people are cheering for Pacquiao to give Thurman some lesson and it happened. They need this kind of strategy before the fight to make it more exciting when it begins.

And to add to that, sometimes when a fighter faces someone, he has somewhat respects his opponent that's why there's no animosity and no bad mouthing. There is a diference between trash talking and attacking your opponents personality, i.e. like Conor against Khabib wherein for me Conor goes overboard, or Broner, saying some racist shit to Maidana and then he pay for it because he lost that fight very badly.

And then we have fighters who doesn't trash talk but just smile and do the job inside the ring. So yeah it's kinda funny when you hear the father or the trainer doing the promotion by trash talking the other side.

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October 12, 2020, 09:21:36 PM
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I just want some confirmation, is the fight this coming October 17?
https://www.fightmag.com.au/2020/09/14/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-official-poster-released/

If so, maybe OP can add a date in the thread title so it will be a sort of reminder to us, don't wanna miss this game.

Yup, this fight is  go on October 17 and it's a Sunday here in our country. Though we are a Pacman country but still many of us are excited of this upcoming fight of Loma as this guy is a beauty to watch if you are a hardcore fan of boxing.

Odds for Loma now back up to 1.22 on my favorite bookies, maybe some of Lopez' fan have already placed their bet.

BW, already updated the title and have put the date on it, hope it will help to remind some of us here and maybe i can put  link on where to watch the fight live on the coming days.
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October 13, 2020, 02:31:11 PM
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Lopez here is trying to beat the number 1 pound for pound, this is his ticket to success so he should it right and win impressively.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28785006/pound-pound-rankings-tyson-fury-makes-debut

Lopez not even in the top 10 but if he beats Loma, he will surely be listed among the greats of boxing.

Lopez would better spend more time at the gym or in sparings, instead of doing trash talk with his father against Lomachenko. Yes, Lopez is young, quick and hungry. Not all of his opponents were top level. As I see, only 3 out of 15 were among worlds top10. And not he states that "he will kill Lomachenko in two rounds". What a joker. Hope this Saturday the fight would last for all 12 rounds, 12 rounds of beating for trash talk.

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October 13, 2020, 08:28:30 PM
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Lopez here is trying to beat the number 1 pound for pound, this is his ticket to success so he should it right and win impressively.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28785006/pound-pound-rankings-tyson-fury-makes-debut

Lopez not even in the top 10 but if he beats Loma, he will surely be listed among the greats of boxing.

Lopez would better spend more time at the gym or in sparings, instead of doing trash talk with his father against Lomachenko. Yes, Lopez is young, quick and hungry. Not all of his opponents were top level. As I see, only 3 out of 15 were among worlds top10. And not he states that "he will kill Lomachenko in two rounds". What a joker. Hope this Saturday the fight would last for all 12 rounds, 12 rounds of beating for trash talk.

Those who trash talk are usually the loser after the fight. So yeah, he better spends more time training himself so he has the chance to fight Loma.

The odds in different sportsbooks are really saying that Loma is the favourite here. In few days time, we will see the rumble inside the ring.

https://www.bestodds.ai/odds/sport-boxing/matchups/vasyl-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez

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October 14, 2020, 10:04:19 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJdothRsf4

^^ Interesting video to watch, up to you which side you believe but for me, it seems the father of Lopez is too arrogant and this just add more motivation to Loma to punish his son on the ring this weekend lol.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJdothRsf4

^^ Interesting video to watch, up to you which side you believe but for me, it seems the father of Lopez is too arrogant and this just add more motivation to Loma to punish his son on the ring this weekend lol.

I agree with you, and like the video that I posted as well, it looks like the father is the one who started this beef with Loma, and as you can see Loma just shrugged it out, but they kept on their attack on Loma until they get this fight.

And Teofimo Sr's attitude gravitate towards his son and this might result to a very bad loss for his son coming October 17. Almost all of the trainers predicted that Loma will win because of his technical skills so I'm really hype to watch this fight.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJdothRsf4

^^ Interesting video to watch, up to you which side you believe but for me, it seems the father of Lopez is too arrogant and this just add more motivation to Loma to punish his son on the ring this weekend lol.

Loma is already motivated, but with this video and if Loma have seen this, (I believed that he might have seen it), makes him train harder and he might attempt for a knock out or knock down, worst make Lopez quit just like the others, Lol, that will be the most painful sight for Lopez Sr, if suddenly his son doesn't want to fight anymore because he was frustrated. Jr has a dynamite power in both hands, I agree, but if you can't hit the target, then it's useless.

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October 14, 2020, 10:45:14 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJdothRsf4

^^ Interesting video to watch, up to you which side you believe but for me, it seems the father of Lopez is too arrogant and this just add more motivation to Loma to punish his son on the ring this weekend lol.

I have read the comments as well,  the Father of Lopez demanded respect like Loma know's him,lol...

Maybe he'll earn that but in the hard way, the only way is to let his son beat the Lomachenko in the right which is unlikely to happen.

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October 15, 2020, 09:23:21 AM
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Final Press Conference, guys! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlVBAf-0t6I

My take: four belts, one warrior (Loma obviously), one host, and one punk. Loma looks buffed, by the way!
Meanwhile, Lopez looks scared Grin

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October 15, 2020, 09:48:43 AM
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Final Press Conference, guys! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlVBAf-0t6I

My take: four belts, one warrior (Loma obviously), one host, and one punk. Loma looks buffed, by the way!
Meanwhile, Lopez looks scared Grin

Thanks for sharing @mu_enrico..He might looked scared here but I gotta respect his record, for an underdog who loves to fight toe to toe, I might somehow place a little bet on him. Watching Lopez winning highlights is good if you like him to win, just don't want Loma's because you might change your mind.  Grin
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October 15, 2020, 11:32:08 AM
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I think these odds is quite interesting, which one you'll pick in that number of odds, everything for Lopez is very attractive.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/lomachenko-vasyl-lopez-teofimo-5f5e269338b1f4caf76b508a


Lomachencko, and 1, is that round 1 win like kO?

I think it's possible considering how Lopez camp are disrespecting the champ here,

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October 15, 2020, 12:03:50 PM
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I think that Lopez will go for broke in the first 3 rounds, because they knew that if the fight progresses, Lomachenko will show his technical skills. So in order to win, they should surprised Lomachenko will Lopez is still fresh in the opening 1-3 rounds, but the question is what if they can't ko him in those rounds? what will be their backup plans now?

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October 15, 2020, 01:33:48 PM
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I think these odds is quite interesting, which one you'll pick in that number of odds, everything for Lopez is very attractive.

Lomachencko, and 1, is that round 1 win like kO?

I think it's possible considering how Lopez camp are disrespecting the champ here,

Yeah, I think it's like Loma by KO/TKO in those rounds that's why the odds are very attractive.

I think Loma though doesn't possessed a one punch KO compare to Lopez, usually it was a combination of volume punch and making his opponent missed a lot, or a body shot put Lopez down and then Loma taking off to finished him.

@cryptomaniac_xxx - he might look for a KO early, but I think Loma is too wise for that. Probably used his jab in the early rounds to keep Lopez at bay and to get away from that power punch, and Loma also had a good defense so I doubt that he can caught Lopez with a KO in 1-3 rounds in my opinion.
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October 15, 2020, 04:21:49 PM
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Thanks for sharing @mu_enrico..He might looked scared here but I gotta respect his record, for an underdog who loves to fight toe to toe, I might somehow place a little bet on him. Watching Lopez winning highlights is good if you like him to win, just don't want Loma's because you might change your mind.  Grin
No problem mate!
Yes, looking at the odds, it's tempting to bet on Lopez since he has a great left hook. However, Loma's southpaw style would pretty much neutralize his left (well, if everything goes as planned). If there's a slugfest, it would be beneficial for Lopez.

Lomachencko, and 1, is that round 1 win like kO?

I think it's possible considering how Lopez camp are disrespecting the champ here,
Loma doesn't have the record for round 1 KO IIRC. He likes to destroy opponents' mentality first, like toying with them and forced them to retire. It's risky (based on record) if you want to bet on round 1 KO.

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October 15, 2020, 04:27:50 PM
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Loma doesn't have the record for round 1 KO IIRC. He likes to destroy opponents' mentality first, like toying with them and forced them to retire. It's risky (based on record) if you want to bet on round 1 KO.

In other words, he likes to domineta and show this dominance to everyone. Despite Lomachenko is a great boxer, watching his fights and pre fights talks is a bit boring. He knows how to box, but he does not know how to sell the fight.

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October 15, 2020, 09:44:21 PM
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Lomachencko, and 1, is that round 1 win like kO?

I think it's possible considering how Lopez camp are disrespecting the champ here,
Loma doesn't have the record for round 1 KO IIRC. He likes to destroy opponents' mentality first, like toying with them and forced them to retire. It's risky (based on record) if you want to bet on round 1 KO.

Quite risky indeed because Loma is a slow starter, that is why Lopez camp is urging their guy to catch Loma in the earlier round because the longer it gets it would be disaster for Lopez.

Here's my take, KO in the earlier round for Lopez and KO in the latter round for Loma, just don't know which particular round  Smiley.

BTW, hats off to Lopez Sr, he is a good promoter of the fight as he get into everyone's skin.
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October 15, 2020, 10:58:04 PM
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Lomachencko, and 1, is that round 1 win like kO?

I think it's possible considering how Lopez camp are disrespecting the champ here,
Loma doesn't have the record for round 1 KO IIRC. He likes to destroy opponents' mentality first, like toying with them and forced them to retire. It's risky (based on record) if you want to bet on round 1 KO.

Quite risky indeed because Loma is a slow starter, that is why Lopez camp is urging their guy to catch Loma in the earlier round because the longer it gets it would be disaster for Lopez.

Here's my take, KO in the earlier round for Lopez and KO in the latter round for Loma, just don't know which particular round  Smiley.

BTW, hats off to Lopez Sr, he is a good promoter of the fight as he get into everyone's skin.

Would be nice to bet on Lopez early here, the odds is quite attractive and anything could happen as Lopez though less experience and younger, but this guy has a great potential with some heavy KO rate, 12/15 KO rate, I think this guy is really dangerous.

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October 15, 2020, 11:03:44 PM
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Loma doesn't have the record for round 1 KO IIRC. He likes to destroy opponents' mentality first, like toying with them and forced them to retire. It's risky (based on record) if you want to bet on round 1 KO.

In other words, he likes to domineta and show this dominance to everyone. Despite Lomachenko is a great boxer, watching his fights and pre fights talks is a bit boring. He knows how to box, but he does not know how to sell the fight.
Because also Loma doesn't have the power, so he really toy with them, and once you are destroyed mentality, I think fighters can sense that, by looking at their opponents eye, then maybe Loma will go on the offensive and try to get a KO. Well, perhaps there is the language barrier, that's why something might have lost in translation, you have to understand that English is not his first language, and maybe that's why he sounds boring to begin with.

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October 15, 2020, 11:30:45 PM
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Lomachencko, and 1, is that round 1 win like kO?

I think it's possible considering how Lopez camp are disrespecting the champ here,
Loma doesn't have the record for round 1 KO IIRC. He likes to destroy opponents' mentality first, like toying with them and forced them to retire. It's risky (based on record) if you want to bet on round 1 KO.

Quite risky indeed because Loma is a slow starter, that is why Lopez camp is urging their guy to catch Loma in the earlier round because the longer it gets it would be disaster for Lopez.

Here's my take, KO in the earlier round for Lopez and KO in the latter round for Loma, just don't know which particular round  Smiley.

BTW, hats off to Lopez Sr, he is a good promoter of the fight as he get into everyone's skin.

Yes, you nail it, hehehe. I bet for Loma for a KO in early rounds. And then have Loma take over in the latter round to look for KO/TKO.

I also have a bet for a draw, risky bet but I like it though,  Grin

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October 15, 2020, 11:49:18 PM
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Lomachencko, and 1, is that round 1 win like kO?

I think it's possible considering how Lopez camp are disrespecting the champ here,
Loma doesn't have the record for round 1 KO IIRC. He likes to destroy opponents' mentality first, like toying with them and forced them to retire. It's risky (based on record) if you want to bet on round 1 KO.

Quite risky indeed because Loma is a slow starter, that is why Lopez camp is urging their guy to catch Loma in the earlier round because the longer it gets it would be disaster for Lopez.

Here's my take, KO in the earlier round for Lopez and KO in the latter round for Loma, just don't know which particular round  Smiley.

BTW, hats off to Lopez Sr, he is a good promoter of the fight as he get into everyone's skin.

Yes, you nail it, hehehe. I bet for Loma for a KO in early rounds. And then have Loma take over in the latter round to look for KO/TKO.

I also have a bet for a draw, risky bet but I like it though,  Grin

Draw is a great choice as well, if both fighters will remain competitive and will not give up, this might be a close fight and judge could score a draw.

I'm browsing now about Loma, and I was really thinking he was undefeated until I review his record and found this article.

LOOK BACK Vasyl Lomachenko’s record includes just one loss as Orlando Salido, an Uber driver in his spare time, beat him in his second professional fight


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October 15, 2020, 11:57:51 PM
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The most likely scenario is that Loma will win but I think too many people are underestimating Lopez. We've seen Loma dropped and bruised up since he moved up to lightweight and Lopez is a brutal puncher. There isn't any outcome that would really surprise me because each fighter has the right style to win the fight.

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October 15, 2020, 11:58:55 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJdothRsf4

^^ Interesting video to watch, up to you which side you believe but for me, it seems the father of Lopez is too arrogant and this just add more motivation to Loma to punish his son on the ring this weekend lol.

I have read the comments as well,  the Father of Lopez demanded respect like Loma know's him,lol...

Maybe he'll earn that but in the hard way, the only way is to let his son beat the Lomachenko in the right which is unlikely to happen.
Does gaining or getting respect someone would really be always on that way or method?  They are just clearly raising their pride and let the fight conclude.

They way on what Lopez father's treatment or words doesnt really sound nice after all. Beating up Loma by his son? He shouldnt really be that too confident because
if he would face up the reality then he will just hide his tail and keep quiet. Cheesy

Lets see on how far his son would able to last.Im not underestimating Lopez though but theres no doubt on who would be the winner on this fight.

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@Natalim, that was Loma's second fight, do you have any idea how experience Salido and how dirty he is? And Salido is a cheater as well: https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2654229. So for me that loss to Salido shouldn't be a factor, I mean after that fight Loma hasn't been defeated and then become a the fastest champion in recent history.

As for the draw? I don't like it though, it's either Lopez knock him out, or Loma make his father wave the white towel and stop the beating, that will be sweat for Loma's camp.

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October 16, 2020, 01:09:39 AM
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Lomachencko, and 1, is that round 1 win like kO?

I think it's possible considering how Lopez camp are disrespecting the champ here,
Loma doesn't have the record for round 1 KO IIRC. He likes to destroy opponents' mentality first, like toying with them and forced them to retire. It's risky (based on record) if you want to bet on round 1 KO.

Quite risky indeed because Loma is a slow starter, that is why Lopez camp is urging their guy to catch Loma in the earlier round because the longer it gets it would be disaster for Lopez.

Here's my take, KO in the earlier round for Lopez and KO in the latter round for Loma, just don't know which particular round  Smiley.

BTW, hats off to Lopez Sr, he is a good promoter of the fight as he get into everyone's skin.

Would be nice to bet on Lopez early here, the odds is quite attractive and anything could happen as Lopez though less experience and younger, but this guy has a great potential with some heavy KO rate, 12/15 KO rate, I think this guy is really dangerous.

Yes, Lopez is the underdog here so the odds are really quite attractive, that is if you got lucky and predicted that he will win and what round it should. And with that said, I would say that he has a puncher's chance.

But then again, Loma is a cerebral fighter, we all know that he destroys his opponent, and what I mean is that he will crushed you not by knock out, but round by round and it makes you questions your ability as a boxer, and that's why many quit because they know they can't do it.

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October 16, 2020, 04:55:11 AM
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This fight will be similar to Floyd Mayweather versus Canelo Alvarez, I reckon. A new rising star who might not be ready versus a veteran of the sport.

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This fight will be similar to Floyd Mayweather versus Canelo Alvarez, I reckon. A new rising star who might not be ready versus a veteran of the sport.

MMA fans would understand. We have witnessed this situation many times hehehe.

I'm hoping it's not the same, I saw the Floyd Mayweather versus Canelo Alvarez fight and it was a complete domination of Floyd in the fight, Canelo Alvarez was completely schooled by Floyd in that fight. This one is different I guess, Loma is not like Floyd, he loves to fight and knock out his opponent, Floyd just love to score and run, which is boring IMO.

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@Natalim, that was Loma's second fight, do you have any idea how experience Salido and how dirty he is? And Salido is a cheater as well: https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2654229. So for me that loss to Salido shouldn't be a factor, I mean after that fight Loma hasn't been defeated and then become a the fastest champion in recent history.
I saw the highlights of the fight, Salido was really throwing low blows and the referrer are not even penalizing Salido for his dirty tactics, but Loma was still calm, maybe he knows deep inside that he won, and just prove he is really good but winning all his fights after that.


As for the draw? I don't like it though, it's either Lopez knock him out, or Loma make his father wave the white towel and stop the beating, that will be sweat for Loma's camp.
Draw doesn't make the fight exiting, after that there will be a rematch and the 3rd fight, of course we love to see a winner, only one.

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October 16, 2020, 06:37:32 AM
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Lomachencko, and 1, is that round 1 win like kO?

I think it's possible considering how Lopez camp are disrespecting the champ here,
Loma doesn't have the record for round 1 KO IIRC. He likes to destroy opponents' mentality first, like toying with them and forced them to retire. It's risky (based on record) if you want to bet on round 1 KO.

Quite risky indeed because Loma is a slow starter, that is why Lopez camp is urging their guy to catch Loma in the earlier round because the longer it gets it would be disaster for Lopez.

Here's my take, KO in the earlier round for Lopez and KO in the latter round for Loma, just don't know which particular round  Smiley.

BTW, hats off to Lopez Sr, he is a good promoter of the fight as he get into everyone's skin.

Would be nice to bet on Lopez early here, the odds is quite attractive and anything could happen as Lopez though less experience and younger, but this guy has a great potential with some heavy KO rate, 12/15 KO rate, I think this guy is really dangerous.

Yes, Lopez is the underdog here so the odds are really quite attractive, that is if you got lucky and predicted that he will win and what round it should. And with that said, I would say that he has a puncher's chance.

But then again, Loma is a cerebral fighter, we all know that he destroys his opponent, and what I mean is that he will crushed you not by knock out, but round by round and it makes you questions your ability as a boxer, and that's why many quit because they know they can't do it.

All I know to see in this fight is Lopez to give Loma a hard time.
Loma makes his opponent quit, that's big than knocking an opponent as you can't call that as a lucky punch, he was the power and he knows how to slowly destroy an opponent, however, he is not undefeated, he can still lose if he made a bad mistake against this younger fighter who really has the power.

Draw doesn't make the fight exiting, after that there will be a rematch and the 3rd fight, of course we love to see a winner, only one.
But it does make a bettor happy due to a good odds.  Grin

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October 16, 2020, 08:18:10 AM
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@Natalim, the fight with Salido was an obvious disgrace for boxing history. He thrown like 20+ low blows, basically beat up Loma's dick without a single point reduction. Yet, Salido was almost get knocked out at round 12 and then it went to point decision which was also gamed. This fight only proves that Loma has a steel dick and boxing is a dirty game.

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October 16, 2020, 09:20:46 AM
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@Natalim, the fight with Salido was an obvious disgrace for boxing history. He thrown like 20+ low blows, basically beat up Loma's dick without a single point reduction. Yet, Salido was almost get knocked out at round 12 and then it went to point decision which was also gamed. This fight only proves that Loma has a steel dick and boxing is a dirty game.
Yeah, and anyone who is not blind sees that it was a corrupt decision by the judges, this is what we called sports rigging and probably that time it was rig in favor of Salido, Loma could have a perfect record until now if it was judge properly, and with the fair ref as well.

But it doesn't matter, record is just a number, what important is his impact in the ring and that's what he has been doing.


Liked that, let's see if that would translate into action.

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This fight will be similar to Floyd Mayweather versus Canelo Alvarez, I reckon. A new rising star who might not be ready versus a veteran of the sport.

MMA fans would understand. We have witnessed this situation many times hehehe.
You know what, you have a point, Canelo that time although making a name for himself in Mexico was thrown too early for Floyd an we do know what happen to that fight. Floyd just play around with a young but hungry Canelo but didn't make it a fight as it was a one sided beating.

But comparing to Lopez though, he is too confident, specially his Dad, so I will stick to my early prediction of Lopez by early KO or not and Loma taking over.

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@Natalim, that was Loma's second fight, do you have any idea how experience Salido and how dirty he is? And Salido is a cheater as well: https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2654229. So for me that loss to Salido shouldn't be a factor, I mean after that fight Loma hasn't been defeated and then become a the fastest champion in recent history.
I saw the highlights of the fight, Salido was really throwing low blows and the referrer are not even penalizing Salido for his dirty tactics, but Loma was still calm, maybe he knows deep inside that he won, and just prove he is really good but winning all his fights after that.

You can see after Salido's name was announced, Loma's eye turns different because he knows that he won and that he needed to improved. And then after that, he wins ever one of them no doubt. So it's a big lesson for him to have that lost early in his career.

And now that he is the veteran in this fight, I'm not saying that he will be dirty on Lopez, but he will school this kid and let him learn the lessons too, specially humility, because it's better to used your fist do the talking.

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October 16, 2020, 10:44:45 AM
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This fight will be similar to Floyd Mayweather versus Canelo Alvarez, I reckon. A new rising star who might not be ready versus a veteran of the sport.

MMA fans would understand. We have witnessed this situation many times hehehe.
You know what, you have a point, Canelo that time although making a name for himself in Mexico was thrown too early for Floyd an we do know what happen to that fight. Floyd just play around with a young but hungry Canelo but didn't make it a fight as it was a one sided beating.

But comparing to Lopez though, he is too confident, specially his Dad, so I will stick to my early prediction of Lopez by early KO or not and Loma taking over.

Floyd  is special, can't compare him to Loma, and Floyd will be a hall of famer despite the fact that he also has a lot of haters and did not consider him as a great fighter due to his style, but he clearly teach Canelo that he is not on his level, I think the only fighter that give Floyd a hard time was Maidana.

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The fight will going to happen tomorrow and many boxing fans are waiting for this because of lockdown and strict implementation of community quarantine these kind of activity was put to hold including other sports as well.

Now that finally organizers are working on to continue what has been started of making a way to enjoy watching sports while staying at home. This time sports are better to watch than movies because in sports is a two way interactive like getting into live and be part of virtual fans. Sports activities now seems like a good way of enjoying the stay at home.
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October 16, 2020, 11:39:16 AM
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The fight will going to happen tomorrow and many boxing fans are waiting for this because of lockdown and strict implementation of community quarantine these kind of activity was put to hold including other sports as well.

Now that finally organizers are working on to continue what has been started of making a way to enjoy watching sports while staying at home. This time sports are better to watch than movies because in sports is a two way interactive like getting into live and be part of virtual fans. Sports activities now seems like a good way of enjoying the stay at home.

We are all excited for this fight, that's because it's Loma's fight, an exciting boxer where you can expect a KO from him.
The talking is going to be over tomorrow as they will be doing it in the ring, hopefully Lopez will talk much in the right too, through his action of course.

If indeed the fight will be a huge success, I would say both fighters are good in selling the fight.

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Because also Loma doesn't have the power

Loma is a lightweight, that is something between 59kg to 61kg. What kind of power do you expect from that to be honest ? Cheesy Yes, he can easily knockout untrained person with single punch, but for a professional he need to land more than one. Loma has 10 victories over KO, but this was no a first round KO. He landed a dozens of punches to the head, and then the body simply turns off after 1 hit.

So yes, Loma does not have power, but lightweights and below dont have them either.

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Draw doesn't make the fight exiting, after that there will be a rematch and the 3rd fight, of course we love to see a winner, only one.
But it does make a bettor happy due to a good odds.  Grin

Yes, this is my point, hehehe. Although I'm a Loma and I see him winning, we can't discount that just maybe, Lopez survives and make it a draw. Just a few mBtc wouldn't hurt to throw a beat on it,  Grin. See the thread becomes lively because of the odds and it's just a couple of days from now, and as boxing fans everyone has his/her own prediction, making this fights one of the most anticipated this year, even if you look at Youtube, lots of analysis, so make our bet count.  Wink

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October 16, 2020, 08:56:56 PM
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Draw doesn't make the fight exiting, after that there will be a rematch and the 3rd fight, of course we love to see a winner, only one.
But it does make a bettor happy due to a good odds.  Grin

Yes, this is my point, hehehe. Although I'm a Loma and I see him winning, we can't discount that just maybe, Lopez survives and make it a draw. Just a few mBtc wouldn't hurt to throw a beat on it,  Grin. See the thread becomes lively because of the odds and it's just a couple of days from now, and as boxing fans everyone has his/her own prediction, making this fights one of the most anticipated this year, even if you look at Youtube, lots of analysis, so make our bet count.  Wink
But we need to be careful spreading out bets though, for average joe gambler, much better to just bet on few "possible outcomes", so as not to get burned. Based on my experience, I did this kind of spread betting, yes I won, but not that much, so be an intelligent bettor, just saying. Anyway, I don't see this going to the judges card with a draw, maybe a unanimous decision for Loma.

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October 16, 2020, 09:50:15 PM
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Draw doesn't make the fight exiting, after that there will be a rematch and the 3rd fight, of course we love to see a winner, only one.
But it does make a bettor happy due to a good odds.  Grin

Yes, this is my point, hehehe. Although I'm a Loma and I see him winning, we can't discount that just maybe, Lopez survives and make it a draw. Just a few mBtc wouldn't hurt to throw a beat on it,  Grin. See the thread becomes lively because of the odds and it's just a couple of days from now, and as boxing fans everyone has his/her own prediction, making this fights one of the most anticipated this year, even if you look at Youtube, lots of analysis, so make our bet count.  Wink
But we need to be careful spreading out bets though, for average joe gambler, much better to just bet on few "possible outcomes", so as not to get burned. Based on my experience, I did this kind of spread betting, yes I won, but not that much, so be an intelligent bettor, just saying. Anyway, I don't see this going to the judges card with a draw, maybe a unanimous decision for Loma.
We certainly have our own prediction but no one can really ascertain what would happen in this fight that's why we put a bet, everyone expect a win from Loma, that's make Lopez a good bet here, I'm not saying he will win, but things could happen as upset happens from time to time in sports.

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October 17, 2020, 12:19:16 AM
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As for the draw? I don't like it though, it's either Lopez knock him out, or Loma make his father wave the white towel and stop the beating, that will be sweat for Loma's camp.
Draw doesn't make the fight exiting, after that there will be a rematch and the 3rd fight, of course we love to see a winner, only one.

Yes, that's what I'm saying, a boxing draw doesn't sit well with boxing fans, and there will be lots of speculations, others will fault it to the judges, and then there is the rematch to settle the score. And I will echo most of the sentiments here, it could either be KO by Lopez because he has the tools or Loma by a close or wide decision.

If the latter happen though, could this be a boring fight? Because it will be a chess game, wherein Lopez trying to be the aggressor but Loma is too elusive but scoring at will and time catches up with Lopez and wasn't able to solve the riddle of "The Matrix"?

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October 17, 2020, 01:55:45 AM
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@Baofeng, bookies just put the odds for the undercard for this fight, wanna do a parlay?

I reckon that Loma will win this fight  Smiley, all we need to do is find a way how to increase the odds and a parlay on the undercards might be that way and maybe we could get at least an odds of 2.

In our country, this fight would be air on free TV, how about in your country?
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October 17, 2020, 06:57:22 AM
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Here is the intense weigh-in between the two,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngO-uC-RS0Q

Lopez though looks nervous during the face off and Loma was so cool, we all know that when fighters are showing weaknesses in face off, like talking too much and can't stand with his opponents, what is your take on those body languages? specially coming from Lopez?

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October 17, 2020, 07:09:30 AM
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Lopez is really the bigger guy between the two, but what Loma says in the interview? it's scary, he says that he wanted a full 12 round beating of Lopez and he doesn't want it to finished early.

As far as body language, it looks like Lopez was the first one to crack, but he was also the first one to initiate the face-off by going under the ropes. But you can clearly see in Lopez eyes, his a bit nervous while Loma staring him down up to the last minutes, this is going to be a bad ass fight for sure. And that smile of Loma's face? reminds me of Pacquiao though, when he was absolute beast destroying everyone in his path.

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October 17, 2020, 07:40:16 AM
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 a couple of hours from now the match is schedule. After NBA I am always after boxing.

Excited and following this match. Who will going to win in this match.

Some boxing analyst had told that lopez has greater chance to win in this fight basing on their records where Lopez records shows greater statistics to compare between Lomachenko but we know that this is boxing and the two are rising superstars with great boxing record.

Lomachenko may have 1 loss already but he still be worth of a fighter after having 14 wins and 10 of it are by TKO.
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October 17, 2020, 10:42:14 AM
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Lomachenko may have 1 loss already but he still be worth of a fighter after having 14 wins and 10 of it are by TKO.

Seriously? you count that one loss? man, that loss was not really a loss, it was a clear corrupt judgement by the judges that's why he lose, Loma could have won that game if the ref was doing his job, Loma was hit by low blow many times and no warning?

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October 17, 2020, 12:13:03 PM
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Lomachenko may have 1 loss already but he still be worth of a fighter after having 14 wins and 10 of it are by TKO.

Seriously? you count that one loss? man, that loss was not really a loss, it was a clear corrupt judgement by the judges that's why he lose, Loma could have won that game if the ref was doing his job, Loma was hit by low blow many times and no warning?

There's a thread about that in https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/2mjsft/was_lomachenko_vs_salido_sd_a_robbery/
Maybe if @erikoy has a lot of time, he can also read that, because for me, Loma is still undefeated as he only lose due to cheating.

Here are some sites that has the betting odds of this fight.

https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/boxing/international/matchups/23527969-lomachenko-vasyl-vs-lopez-teofimo

https://www.betbtc.co/fixtures/teofimo-lopez-vs-vasiliy-lomachenko-2384918

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/lomachenko-vasyl-lopez-teofimo-5f5e269338b1f4caf76b508a

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October 17, 2020, 01:30:56 PM
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Lomachenko may have 1 loss already but he still be worth of a fighter after having 14 wins and 10 of it are by TKO.

Seriously? you count that one loss? man, that loss was not really a loss, it was a clear corrupt judgement by the judges that's why he lose, Loma could have won that game if the ref was doing his job, Loma was hit by low blow many times and no warning?

There's a thread about that in https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/2mjsft/was_lomachenko_vs_salido_sd_a_robbery/
Maybe if @erikoy has a lot of time, he can also read that, because for me, Loma is still undefeated as he only lose due to cheating.

Here are some sites that has the betting odds of this fight.

https://www.bitsler.com/en/sports/boxing/international/matchups/23527969-lomachenko-vasyl-vs-lopez-teofimo

https://www.betbtc.co/fixtures/teofimo-lopez-vs-vasiliy-lomachenko-2384918

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/lomachenko-vasyl-lopez-teofimo-5f5e269338b1f4caf76b508a


Both betbtc and bitsler has a better odds, but luckily have a price boost for sportsbet so I'm getting 4.40 if I bet on Teofimo Lopez to win this fight.

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October 17, 2020, 09:30:09 PM
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@Baofeng, bookies just put the odds for the undercard for this fight, wanna do a parlay?

I reckon that Loma will win this fight  Smiley, all we need to do is find a way how to increase the odds and a parlay on the undercards might be that way and maybe we could get at least an odds of 2.

In our country, this fight would be air on free TV, how about in your country?


I already put up my bet two days ago,  Cheesy

But watch out for the Saucedo vs Barboza Jr fight, I smell an upset hehehe.

Doesn't matter what is the body language of Lopez or Loma, come fight night, it will be one hell of a fight, for sure there will be ass-whopping.

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October 17, 2020, 09:49:37 PM
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Lomachenko may have 1 loss already but he still be worth of a fighter after having 14 wins and 10 of it are by TKO.

Seriously? you count that one loss? man, that loss was not really a loss, it was a clear corrupt judgement by the judges that's why he lose, Loma could have won that game if the ref was doing his job, Loma was hit by low blow many times and no warning?
I agree, that lost doesn't matter, it was rigged from the beginning and Salido shouldn't be awarded with the win and should be disqualified because of so many low blows he thrown on Loma. And for the record as well, Loma lost only 1 fight in his boxing amateur, but he avenged that lost, and then beat the guy again, so literally Loma shouldn't have any lost in his boxing career.

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October 17, 2020, 10:26:57 PM
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Lomachenko may have 1 loss already but he still be worth of a fighter after having 14 wins and 10 of it are by TKO.

Seriously? you count that one loss? man, that loss was not really a loss, it was a clear corrupt judgement by the judges that's why he lose, Loma could have won that game if the ref was doing his job, Loma was hit by low blow many times and no warning?
I agree, that lost doesn't matter, it was rigged from the beginning and Salido shouldn't be awarded with the win and should be disqualified because of so many low blows he thrown on Loma. And for the record as well, Loma lost only 1 fight in his boxing amateur, but he avenged that lost, and then beat the guy again, so literally Loma shouldn't have any lost in his boxing career.

Per his record https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, it seemed like he hasn't fought Salido again, but I believe if they will fight again, Loma would have a complete domination and KO this guy who cheated him during the 2nd fight of his boxing career.

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October 17, 2020, 10:45:48 PM
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a couple of hours from now the match is schedule. After NBA I am always after boxing.

Excited and following this match. Who will going to win in this match.

Why not watch previous fight though in Youtube, you will see the power of this kid.

Some boxing analyst had told that lopez has greater chance to win in this fight basing on their records where Lopez records shows greater statistics to compare between Lomachenko but we know that this is boxing and the two are rising superstars with great boxing record.

Absolutely, Lopez by far has a chance because he has a knock out power, his left hook is devastating and then his right overhand, he almost close all his opponents, except for that Japanese fighter if I'm not mistaken.

Lomachenko may have 1 loss already but he still be worth of a fighter after having 14 wins and 10 of it are by TKO.

That lost is questionable to all boxing fans and experts. You can also break down that TKO as being quitting or doesn't want to fight Loma further because they can't, thus his monicker of "nomaschenko".
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October 17, 2020, 10:53:15 PM
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a couple of hours from now the match is schedule. After NBA I am always after boxing.

Excited and following this match. Who will going to win in this match.

Why not watch previous fight though in Youtube, you will see the power of this kid.

Save your excitement on the fight today, don't want a lot of highlights as we are going to witness a great fight between this two warriors, yes Loma is great but the challenger has a real power, undefeated and has a high KO rate.

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October 17, 2020, 11:01:18 PM
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Lomachenko may have 1 loss already but he still be worth of a fighter after having 14 wins and 10 of it are by TKO.

Seriously? you count that one loss? man, that loss was not really a loss, it was a clear corrupt judgement by the judges that's why he lose, Loma could have won that game if the ref was doing his job, Loma was hit by low blow many times and no warning?
I agree, that lost doesn't matter, it was rigged from the beginning and Salido shouldn't be awarded with the win and should be disqualified because of so many low blows he thrown on Loma. And for the record as well, Loma lost only 1 fight in his boxing amateur, but he avenged that lost, and then beat the guy again, so literally Loma shouldn't have any lost in his boxing career.

Per his record https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659771, it seemed like he hasn't fought Salido again, but I believe if they will fight again, Loma would have a complete domination and KO this guy who cheated him during the 2nd fight of his boxing career.

It's because Salido doesn't want no part of Loma:

https://www.fightsports.tv/arum-salido-chickened-out-of-lomachenko-fight/

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“Orlando Salido chickened out,” he said. “It’s the only way to say it. He asked for crazy money. We agreed to the crazy money. And then he says ‘No’. He’d just as soon not take the fight. Why? Because he knows he can’t beat (Lomachenko). It was a fluke the first time. So, there’s no other way to paint it. Orlando Salido chickened out of the fight because whatever his demands were, we met those financial demands and then he let us know he’s not interested in taking the fight.”

So the fight fizzled out, Salido become a journey man and Loma became a champion in 126 lbs, 130 lbs and 135 lbs.

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October 17, 2020, 11:15:20 PM
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So the fight fizzled out, Salido become a journey man and Loma became a champion in 126 lbs, 130 lbs and 135 lbs.
He knows he can't be Loma with different ref and judges, so does not give that rematch, anyway, not a big deal, Loma have move on and have fought a real fighters with balls and beat them all.



Mind me guys.

I don't have an access on the ESPN+, I think it needs a subscription so I would be happy to see some free live streaming link here.

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October 17, 2020, 11:31:27 PM
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Lopez is really the bigger guy between the two, but what Loma says in the interview? it's scary, he says that he wanted a full 12 round beating of Lopez and he doesn't want it to finished early.
Finally the fight is a few hours away and i am waiting for this match up for a very long time and i am expecting to see Lomachenko to put in a clinical beating on Lopez but it is going to be interesting to see how the young Lopez would cope with the technical expertise and footwork of Lomachenko and whether he will go for a brawl and how he is going to counter his movement.
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October 17, 2020, 11:44:04 PM
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Lomachenko may have 1 loss already but he still be worth of a fighter after having 14 wins and 10 of it are by TKO.
Seriously? you count that one loss? man, that loss was not really a loss, it was a clear corrupt judgement by the judges that's why he lose, Loma could have won that game if the ref was doing his job, Loma was hit by low blow many times and no warning?
The referee was blind in the entire fight against Orlando Salido who not only used dirty tactics but he missed the weight and did not even attempt to cut the weight and then he ducked for a rematch and now he is retired. The judges also did not do anything for the dozens of illegal low blows and they might have scored them as proper strikes.

Coming into this fight i am a Loma fan and i going with him to win the fight even though the odds are not that great.
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October 17, 2020, 11:51:19 PM
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Mind me guys.

I don't have an access on the ESPN+, I think it needs a subscription so I would be happy to see some free live streaming link here.

https://www.spin.ph/boxing/lomachenko-vs-lopez-free-tv-fight-a1403-20201016

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I'm sure you'll find the right channel, just dig deeper on your research, the fight was not a PPV fight, it was clearly stated it's free, spin is a reliable sports outlet news in the Philippines.

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October 18, 2020, 01:28:41 AM
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Everyone is super excited with this match, but for all Filipinos, Moralde lost by KO from Jose Enrique Vivas in the undercard. Never heard of Moralde though. Castaneda vs Vargas on-going.

Supporting bouts is still ongoing, Loma shows reading the scriptures, while Lopez is totally hype and dancing already. So Loma is still relax, a good sign or bad sign of things to come? LOL.

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Lopez is really the bigger guy between the two, but what Loma says in the interview? it's scary, he says that he wanted a full 12 round beating of Lopez and he doesn't want it to finished early.
Finally the fight is a few hours away and i am waiting for this match up for a very long time and i am expecting to see Lomachenko to put in a clinical beating on Lopez but it is going to be interesting to see how the young Lopez would cope with the technical expertise and footwork of Lomachenko and whether he will go for a brawl and how he is going to counter his movement.

Right, next is the Berlanga vs Bellows next, Berlanga 14-0 with 14 KO/TKO in first round? What a record, let's see if he can continue his winning streak here.

Yes, I have said, Lopez is the bigger guy, but I'm sure Loma can negate it with his matrix movement to confuse him and to stay away from those big bombs. Just a few hours, and if Berlanga finishes again in one round then just one more fights because the Loma vs Lopez showdown.

Edit: the streak continues, wow, look at the face of Bellows.

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October 18, 2020, 05:01:15 AM
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The scores should have been much closer but the right man won in my opinion. Lomachenko started off way too slow. He made up for it with some very dominant late rounds but ultimately it was not enough. This is a stacked division and there are also options in the surrounding weight classes so I believe Loma is still capable of being a great champion and winning more belts after this setback.

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October 18, 2020, 05:03:51 AM
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What a great fight (though a little bit boring)! Congrats to Lopez, he clearly dominate Loma on their match. I'm glad to see him doing his signature move, the somersault, once again Smiley.

While watching the mid rounds, I'm already exoecting that Loma will lose if his performance continues but honestly the scorecards are quite shocking. There's a huge gap. Hmm, I think the main reason why Lomachenko lose is because he can't penetrate to the inside of his opponent especially on the early rounds. He threw lesser punches and he is more on the defensive mode compare to his previous matches where he is the aggressor. Nonetheless, props to him. Better luck nect time.
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October 18, 2020, 05:30:15 AM
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When I started to see that Loma is not getting his hands busy in the first 3 rounds, I knew that his going to lost. I don't know, maybe he was really afraid of the Lopez power that's why he is very tentative while Lopez is scoring the rounds because he is the more aggressive and judges need to score a win in every round. Yes, somewhat boring, but in the later rounds Loma tries everything but it was too late as Lopez is far ahead on the judges scorecard. Congrats to Lopez for unifying the belt in 135 lbs.

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October 18, 2020, 06:02:09 AM
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Lopez takes out the invincibility of Lomachecko, the volume of punches Lopez is putting up is just to much, the body shot took a beating on Loma I bet for Lomachecnko to win here but I never disregard that Lopez can pull out an upset here and so it happen so Congratulation to Lopez for a great strategy, it's hard to beat Loma with a lot of great moves the poll here unanimously voted for Lomachecnko to win the match.

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October 18, 2020, 06:09:02 AM
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It is going to be the upset of the year, it was a really close fight and when Lomachenko he wanted to go to the distance in the pre fight interview i thought that would backfire as the judges can mess up things, but this fight i am not calling robbery, as the first three rounds was close but i give it to Teofimo Lopez but then Lomachenko started his pace and the championship rounds in my view Lomachenko won majority of the rounds. I have to watch the fight again to score and hopefully we will see a rematch.
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It is going to be the upset of the year, it was a really close fight and when Lomachenko he wanted to go to the distance in the pre fight interview i thought that would backfire as the judges can mess up things, but this fight i am not calling robbery, as the first three rounds was close but i give it to Teofimo Lopez but then Lomachenko started his pace and the championship rounds in my view Lomachenko won majority of the rounds. I have to watch the fight again to score and hopefully we will see a rematch.

As far as I know there are no rematch close, the first three rounds, I would give Loma the second round. And in pre interview, they said there are 3 things that they know would beat Loma. So now we have seen it, body shots, be the aggressor and push Loma, and then make him fight backwards. Yes, there re no robberies here, and agree that the championships round could go to Loma but Lopez has build a big lead already.

The only way a rematch could happen is that the Lopez camp give it to Loma.

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October 18, 2020, 06:18:04 AM
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It is going to be the upset of the year, it was a really close fight and when Lomachenko he wanted to go to the distance in the pre fight interview i thought that would backfire as the judges can mess up things, but this fight i am not calling robbery, as the first three rounds was close but i give it to Teofimo Lopez but then Lomachenko started his pace and the championship rounds in my view Lomachenko won majority of the rounds. I have to watch the fight again to score and hopefully we will see a rematch.

I see domination here it's a close fight but we have to give this to the fighter who wants it most and charging to make a fight and that goes to Lopez what a great achievement an undisputed champion at the age of 23 he still has a lot of greatness to achieve, and if there's a rematch I think the outcome will be the same, Lopez already sized up Loma, Loma should move up and conquer new territories.


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What a great fight (though a little bit boring)! Congrats to Lopez, he clearly dominate Loma on their match. I'm glad to see him doing his signature move, the somersault, once again Smiley.

While watching the mid rounds, I'm already exoecting that Loma will lose if his performance continues but honestly the scorecards are quite shocking. There's a huge gap. Hmm, I think the main reason why Lomachenko lose is because he can't penetrate to the inside of his opponent especially on the early rounds. He threw lesser punches and he is more on the defensive mode compare to his previous matches where he is the aggressor. Nonetheless, props to him. Better luck nect time.
that was because Teofimo Lopez implemented a defensive strategy and combined the right attacks so that Vasiliy Lomachen didn't get the slightest chance, even though several times it might almost work but it could be blocked, while the game was successful in winning Lopez because he managed to outwit the movement by getting into the stomach that had a shortage defense and take advantage of the moment to weaken the opponent.

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Look at that odds for Lopez, great win for the bettors here, betting on the underdog is so rewarding sometimes.
Congratulations to Lopez, it's alright to trash talk Loma as you did really well, you dominated this fight and I think even in rematch you'll still win.

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Look at that odds for Lopez, great win for the bettors here, betting on the underdog is so rewarding sometimes.
Congratulations to Lopez, it's alright to trash talk Loma as you did really well, you dominated this fight and I think even in rematch you'll still win.
Have you bet and win this match?

I never thought Lopez will win this match, it's really great reward to those who choose underdog bet.

Lopez now became the first fighterin the 4 belts ear, and become an undisputed champion at lightweight devision.

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Lomachenko -- 9 9 9 10 9 9 9 9 10 10 9	112

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October 18, 2020, 08:03:29 AM
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Look at that odds for Lopez, great win for the bettors here, betting on the underdog is so rewarding sometimes.
Congratulations to Lopez, it's alright to trash talk Loma as you did really well, you dominated this fight and I think even in rematch you'll still win.
Have you bet and win this match?

I never thought Lopez will win this match, it's really great reward to those who choose underdog bet.

Lopez now became the first fighterin the 4 belts ear, and become an undisputed champion at lightweight devision.

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Lomachenko -- 9 9 9 10 9 9 9 9 10 10 9	112

Lopez Jr.  -- 10 10 10 9 10 10 10 10 9  9  110 116

Loma was really outsmart in this fight, the young Lopez looks smarter than him and the fact that it was a unanimous decision, that's something he should be so proud of, Loma asking for a rematch is not good, this isn't controversial fight, it was very clear than Lopez won by domination.

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October 18, 2020, 08:32:15 AM
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Loma was really outsmart in this fight, the young Lopez looks smarter than him and the fact that it was a unanimous decision, that's something he should be so proud of, Loma asking for a rematch is not good, this isn't controversial fight, it was very clear than Lopez won by domination.

Not only outsmart but outbox he proves that he is the real champion in this match, I agree with the decision, Lopez is the aggressive fighter he is the one bringing the fight to Loma, and he connected many of the big punches throughout the fight, there's no need for an immediate rematch but a rematch is ok but after both fighters fight other opponents

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Loma was really outsmart in this fight, the young Lopez looks smarter than him and the fact that it was a unanimous decision, that's something he should be so proud of, Loma asking for a rematch is not good, this isn't controversial fight, it was very clear than Lopez won by domination.

Not only outsmart but outbox he proves that he is the real champion in this match, I agree with the decision, Lopez is the aggressive fighter he is the one bringing the fight to Loma, and he connected many of the big punches throughout the fight, there's no need for an immediate rematch but a rematch is ok but after both fighters fight other opponents

Loma already had a legit loss in his career, per record he had 2 now but that loss from Salido was not counted for those who understand that cheating is possible, here, no cheating, the challenger was the more aggressor and unfortunately Loma had not downloaded everything early so he started a bit late.

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October 18, 2020, 09:00:38 AM
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The bigger, stronger, and younger man won. A well-deserved win by Lopez Lips sealed rekt bettors! Lol, Loma should have stayed in Featherweight.
At the age of 32, he is at the edge of his career. Let's see if he want to get a rematch or not.

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October 18, 2020, 09:07:55 AM
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The bigger, stronger, and younger man won. A well-deserved win by Lopez Lips sealed rekt bettors! Lol, Loma should have stayed in Featherweight.
At the age of 32, he is at the edge of his career.
That was an easy win by Lopez, he looked like he was the champion as he was more aggressive than Loma.

Let's see if he want to get a rematch or not.
I don't think he would, Lopez would give him if he'll ask, but I'll expect the same result. Lopez had a heart of a warrior, he wants to fight the best so maybe let's allow him to choose a stronger fighter, definitely not Loma.

yeah, bettors rekt! Grin
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October 18, 2020, 10:45:20 AM
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The bigger, stronger, and younger man won. A well-deserved win by Lopez Lips sealed rekt bettors! Lol, Loma should have stayed in Featherweight.
At the age of 32, he is at the edge of his career.
That was an easy win by Lopez, he looked like he was the champion as he was more aggressive than Loma.

Let's see if he want to get a rematch or not.
I don't think he would, Lopez would give him if he'll ask, but I'll expect the same result. Lopez had a heart of a warrior, he wants to fight the best so maybe let's allow him to choose a stronger fighter, definitely not Loma.

yeah, bettors rekt! Grin

If I bet, I lost. Because I voted for Loma in the poll here. Seems that Lopez did have serious training that's why he's aggressive. For those who bet on Lopez, you are also big winners on this fight as the odds are good, getting 4.x of your bet.
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October 18, 2020, 10:45:48 AM
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The bigger, stronger, and younger man won. A well-deserved win by Lopez Lips sealed rekt bettors! Lol, Loma should have stayed in Featherweight.
At the age of 32, he is at the edge of his career. Let's see if he want to get a rematch or not.

The match is very close but I have Lopez winning Lopez he delivers the most telling blows he initiates the fight and this is not how Loma fought he cannot figure out how to beat Lopez, just like all the fight that he has, rematch is ok but Lopez will be dangerous on their second match it's either Loam go back to featherweight or take another crack again.

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October 18, 2020, 11:15:26 AM
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The bigger, stronger, and younger man won. A well-deserved win by Lopez Lips sealed rekt bettors! Lol, Loma should have stayed in Featherweight.
At the age of 32, he is at the edge of his career. Let's see if he want to get a rematch or not.

The match is very close but I have Lopez winning Lopez he delivers the most telling blows he initiates the fight and this is not how Loma fought he cannot figure out how to beat Lopez, just like all the fight that he has, rematch is ok but Lopez will be dangerous on their second match it's either Loam go back to featherweight or take another crack again.

I'm sorry but I'm not seeing as a close fight, the result says itself, it was a unanimous win by Lopez, that means Lopez was controlling the fight, Loma here was the one who has "nomas or no-match on Lopez. Just a big upset and a big loss from most bettors, lol.

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October 18, 2020, 11:29:39 AM
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The bigger, stronger, and younger man won. A well-deserved win by Lopez Lips sealed rekt bettors! Lol, Loma should have stayed in Featherweight.
At the age of 32, he is at the edge of his career.
That was an easy win by Lopez, he looked like he was the champion as he was more aggressive than Loma.

Let's see if he want to get a rematch or not.
I don't think he would, Lopez would give him if he'll ask, but I'll expect the same result. Lopez had a heart of a warrior, he wants to fight the best so maybe let's allow him to choose a stronger fighter, definitely not Loma.

yeah, bettors rekt! Grin

If I bet, I lost. Because I voted for Loma in the poll here. Seems that Lopez did have serious training that's why he's aggressive. For those who bet on Lopez, you are also big winners on this fight as the odds are good, getting 4.x of your bet.

Same here, I could have lost big on Loma, I think it's not about training though, it was really the attitude and that mentality that Lopez Sr brought to his son's mind that Loma is beatable and that he is not invincible, it's just a matter of execution on their end. And they didn't show anything but confidence before the fight, even going on disrespecting Loma.

I remember those boxer announcers saying that big money is flowing on Loma's part, he term them sharks. I'm sure they got REKT because of the lost. And yes, it was not a close fight, maybe Loma make it in the last 4 rounds, but it was a boxing clinic not by him but by Lopez.
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October 18, 2020, 11:51:09 AM
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TEOFIMO LOPEZ JR. with this victory can freely move on and find another opponent as he is not oblige to give a rematch on Loma, that was part of the contract they both signed.

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Teofimo Lopez Jr. (15-0, 12 KOs) revealed that his signed and sealed lightweight championship unification fight with Vasiliy Lomachenko (14-1, 10 KOs) has no rematch clause on either side of the deal.

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October 18, 2020, 12:07:12 PM
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TEOFIMO LOPEZ JR. with this victory can freely move on and find another opponent as he is not oblige to give a rematch on Loma, that was part of the contract they both signed.


With the excitement it brought to us it deserves a rematch, the only who can trigger this is Lopez but I don't see why he will want it, Lopez is going to rule the lightweight division for a long time because he is at the peak of his career and Loma can go back to a lower division and rule there again, he still has a lot to give at 32.
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October 18, 2020, 12:51:42 PM
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The problem with Loma's defeat was not because of mistakes, but they are just in a different weight class. Loma's strategy was a textbook correct, waiting for Lopez to run out of gas because of weight loss (dehydration and stuff) because of weighing in at 135, but Lopez never runs out of gas. With the frame like that, Lopez's natural weight probably way more than 135, so most boxers will round out of gas at the middle or some even after 4th round. I guess this incredible recovery and stamina is because he is still very young and athletic.

Well, I doubt Loma wants a rematch since his bet about stamina was just not working.

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October 18, 2020, 01:04:38 PM
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I consider this as a candidate for the upset of the year but although the likely winner is the Whyte - Povetkin match we'll see on their second match if Whyte can even the match, I looked past Lopez performance he shows class and dominant I never thought Loma can be tame but Lopez tame him, this is the real only loss of Loma, I consider his first loss as controversial.
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October 18, 2020, 01:25:26 PM
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I consider this as a candidate for the upset of the year but although the likely winner is the Whyte - Povetkin match we'll see on their second match if Whyte can even the match, I looked past Lopez performance he shows class and dominant I never thought Loma can be tame but Lopez tame him, this is the real only loss of Loma, I consider his first loss as controversial.
I think that this will be the upset of the year already and possible one of the greatest upsets of all time in boxing history.
It maybe sound like weird but before the pandemic, Lomachenko's name has been popular already because of his fights and he is the fastest boxer to win 3 titles. Include also his skills.

The problem here is that Lopez dominated from the start of the fight until the end. Yes Loma did some good rounds but it was the 2nd half already of the fight and Lopez didn't stop from there. I will wait for a rematch for this possible next year Smiley.

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Speaking about rematch - to they have a line about obligatory rematch in their contract? Lopez will not be interested in rematch right now. He might face other opponent in his next fight and lose all the belts. If this happens, will these two still be interested in rematch?

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October 18, 2020, 02:24:59 PM
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The bigger, stronger, and younger man won. A well-deserved win by Lopez Lips sealed rekt bettors! Lol, Loma should have stayed in Featherweight.
At the age of 32, he is at the edge of his career. Let's see if he want to get a rematch or not.

That was indeed the greatest fight I've ever seen this year and unexpected results too. those people who prefer Lopez to win the fight has now surely enjoyed their day because of the result today. Damn! we don't see this unification bout every year and this might be one of the greatest upsets in the histories of unification fights we've ever had in the Boxing history.

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Yes, upset of the year, unexpected result, so give due to Lopez and his team and his father. Of course, I was one of the disappointed fans here, but that's boxing and that's what makes it more exciting. Loma is really small for 135 lbs and he met the biggest champion out there. And now Lopez open his doors for future big fights and he has all the belts now. And he is the one that is going to be chase by a lot of 135 lbs young prospects and there are a lot, Haney, Davis, Ryan Garcia and others.

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Speaking about rematch - to they have a line about obligatory rematch in their contract? Lopez will not be interested in rematch right now. He might face other opponent in his next fight and lose all the belts. If this happens, will these two still be interested in rematch?
The media reports says that there are NO rematch closeclause, of course we can sense the Loma wants a rematch, but if Lopez does not obliged that Loma will have to work his way up again to become mandatory before we can see this two face again. Maybe Loma did taste the power of Lopez in round one that's why he shell out and not attacking up to the middle of the rounds, because we never seen him fight like this before, maybe the long layoff has affected him?, or because there are no crowds?, or Lopez really get into this skin that he was very much distracted?.

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October 18, 2020, 10:24:49 PM
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Speaking about rematch - to they have a line about obligatory rematch in their contract? Lopez will not be interested in rematch right now. He might face other opponent in his next fight and lose all the belts. If this happens, will these two still be interested in rematch?
The media reports says that there are NO rematch close, of course we can sense the Loma wants a rematch, but if Lopez does not obliged that Loma will have to work his way up again to become mandatory before we can see this two face again. Maybe Loma did taste the power of Lopez in round one that's why he shell out and not attacking up to the middle of the rounds, because we never seen him fight like this before, maybe the long layoff has affected him?, or because there are no crowds?, or Lopez really get into this skin that he was very much distracted?.

I was rooting for Loma but seems that he's not prepared to face Lopez.
Or did he really train hard for this fight? Maybe he got confident that he can beat Lopez?
Because the odds are saying from every sportsbook that they were favouring him in the winning side.
So I strongly believe, Lopez did see that challenge so he prepared hard for this match.
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October 18, 2020, 11:14:45 PM
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Speaking about rematch - to they have a line about obligatory rematch in their contract? Lopez will not be interested in rematch right now. He might face other opponent in his next fight and lose all the belts. If this happens, will these two still be interested in rematch?
The media reports says that there are NO rematch close, of course we can sense the Loma wants a rematch, but if Lopez does not obliged that Loma will have to work his way up again to become mandatory before we can see this two face again. Maybe Loma did taste the power of Lopez in round one that's why he shell out and not attacking up to the middle of the rounds, because we never seen him fight like this before, maybe the long layoff has affected him?, or because there are no crowds?, or Lopez really get into this skin that he was very much distracted?.

I was rooting for Loma but seems that he's not prepared to face Lopez.
Or did he really train hard for this fight? Maybe he got confident that he can beat Lopez?
Because the odds are saying from every sportsbook that they were favouring him in the winning side.
So I strongly believe, Lopez did see that challenge so he prepared hard for this match.

No excuse man, Lopez was the better fighter in this fight, he cannot underestimate Lopez because the kid has a very high KO rate, so he wasn't so aggressive in the fight and that means he respected the power of Lopez, unfortunately that cause him a lose because Lopez defense was outstanding.

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October 18, 2020, 11:56:45 PM
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Oh c'mon! I don't understand why they would agree on such deal in the first place? Of course I'm sure that every loser (which is Loma in this case) always wanted a rematch on the opposing fighter in order to take a revenge and prove that he is more worthy — to reclaim his glory. Now what? I guess Loma is regretting now because he can't his belt back. While on the other hand, good for Lopez because he no longer need to face a deadly opponent like him Grin.

So what do you think is next for Lopez? Maybe against Davis would be an exciting match.
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October 19, 2020, 12:13:22 AM
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So what do you think is next for Lopez? Maybe against Davis would be an exciting match.

Pretty much the division is stack up with exciting fighters, and for the record it's not unification per se, Haney is the WBC champion, so Haney and Davis should be the next if they want a true unification.

Davis and Haney have a schedule fights, so once they hurdle their respective opponents, then we might see another big fight next year in this division. And then we have Ryan Garcia also in the radar, here is the complete list of rankings:

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October 19, 2020, 12:24:55 AM
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Congrats to everyone who bet on Lopez. On the broadcast they said that more people bet on him but there was more money on Loma. The whales were mistaken to underestimate Lopez and they made a lot of small betters very happy.

Loma deserves a ton of credit for being a fighter who is not worried about protecting an undefeated record and always wanting to face the biggest challenges. He has had an excellent hall of fame worthy career and will be champion again.

Lopez and his dad are talking about moving up in weight. I would like to see him against Davis, Haney, and Ryan Garcia but if he moves up there is also Ramirez, Taylor, Prograis and even Zepeda which would all be very interesting.

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October 19, 2020, 02:53:00 AM
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I consider this as a candidate for the upset of the year but although the likely winner is the Whyte - Povetkin match we'll see on their second match if Whyte can even the match, I looked past Lopez performance he shows class and dominant I never thought Loma can be tame but Lopez tame him, this is the real only loss of Loma, I consider his first loss as controversial.
I think that this will be the upset of the year already and possible one of the greatest upsets of all time in boxing history.
It maybe sound like weird but before the pandemic, Lomachenko's name has been popular already because of his fights and he is the fastest boxer to win 3 titles. Include also his skills.

The problem here is that Lopez dominated from the start of the fight until the end. Yes Loma did some good rounds but it was the 2nd half already of the fight and Lopez didn't stop from there. I will wait for a rematch for this possible next year Smiley.

No, I would still vote for the Povetkin upset rather than this one. Lopez is a rising star, very young, promising, undefeated, etc. That is not considered a huge upset if he wins over a legendary but kind of older fighter. There is really no other way for this young talented Lopez but up. Those are big factors for me. Povetkin, on the other hand, doesn't have what Lopez has.

Moreover, Lopez won by UD while the old Povetkin won by an unbelievable KO.
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October 19, 2020, 06:18:34 AM
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Loma deserves a ton of credit for being a fighter who is not worried about protecting an undefeated record and always wanting to face the biggest challenges. He has had an excellent hall of fame worthy career and will be champion again.

No, Loma already has one loss prior to this fight, he has now 2 loses, one a legitimate loss from Lopez, the other one was a loss early in his career, but it was a controversial loss actually, so maybe people thought he was undefeated prior to his loss yesterday.

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October 19, 2020, 07:44:03 AM
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Loma deserves a ton of credit for being a fighter who is not worried about protecting an undefeated record and always wanting to face the biggest challenges. He has had an excellent hall of fame worthy career and will be champion again.

No, Loma already has one loss prior to this fight, he has now 2 loses, one a legitimate loss from Lopez, the other one was a loss early in his career, but it was a controversial loss actually, so maybe people thought he was undefeated prior to his loss yesterday.

Exactly, people will be mistaken especially if they are not follow loma's early career, he has a loss from Salido but during that time it wasn't really that controversial as only few people have known the fight since it's just Loma's 2nd fight, the fight with Lopez was a great fight, it was a hype fight but unfortunately he seemed a little bit off in the fight, I don't know if the pandemic has affected his training but he wasn't really doing well that's why he loss.
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October 19, 2020, 08:00:28 AM
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Yes, upset of the year, unexpected result, so give due to Lopez and his team and his father. Of course, I was one of the disappointed fans here, but that's boxing and that's what makes it more exciting. Loma is really small for 135 lbs and he met the biggest champion out there. And now Lopez open his doors for future big fights and he has all the belts now. And he is the one that is going to be chase by a lot of 135 lbs young prospects and there are a lot, Haney, Davis, Ryan Garcia and others.

It could be upset of the year considering that unification fight only happens ones in a blue moon lol.

Yesterday's result was way off my expectation. A draw is what was on my mind if both fighters can't really convinced the judges and i expect Loma to dismantle Lopez but unfortunately that didn't happen. Kodus to Lopez as he came to the fight unafraid of Loma and he gave his all.

Lopez clearly won that fight but with one judge 119-109 score, it's just too much. For me that was a close fight.

Ryan Garcia vs Lopez is a fight in the future that boxing fans will wait to happen, it's a good match.
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October 19, 2020, 11:21:25 AM
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Lopez clearly won that fight but with one judge 119-109 score, it's just too much. For me that was a close fight.
Well, that Judge must really see how Lopez outsmart Loma in this fight, can't blame him, but regardless, a win is a win, whether it's a split or unanimous, but this one clearly is a unanimous, sometimes we just don't see it coming as we are bias with our favorite boxer here.

Ryan Garcia vs Lopez is a fight in the future that boxing fans will wait to happen, it's a good match.
Maybe, let's see, but I can compare now how really great Manny is compared to this young boxers.

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October 19, 2020, 12:04:09 PM
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Honestly, this fight was one of the best boxing match this year and I'm sure Lopez winning the fight will shocked all Loma fans and others that believed in Loma statement when he claimed to have the fight in bag, I'm sure you guys now understand what i mean when I said Lopez have chance to win this fight.


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October 19, 2020, 12:44:20 PM
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Honestly, this fight was one of the best boxing match this year and I'm sure Lopez winning the fight will shocked all Loma fans and others that believed in Loma statement when he claimed to have the fight in bag, I'm sure you guys now understand what i mean when I said Lopez have chance to win this fight.


You were right, the chance you are talking was a "big chance" because Loma got dominated in the fight, and Lopez who is selling the fight well got the win in this fight, the Kid was a real warrior, I would watch all his upcoming fights for sure, and of course Loma as well as I know he'll bounce back.

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October 19, 2020, 05:33:30 PM
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I am quite shock also to the result as I didn't expect that it will end up to a big upset as Lomanchenko is the favored boxer to win this fight. Upon watching their fight I can see that Lopez was able to dominate Lomachenko base on punches landed.

Lopez did his best and he deserve his win and for Lomanchenko, he should do better next time in order to avoid this kind of upset in his future fights.
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October 20, 2020, 06:18:29 PM
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Honestly, this fight was one of the best boxing match this year and I'm sure Lopez winning the fight will shocked all Loma fans and others that believed in Loma statement when he claimed to have the fight in bag, I'm sure you guys now understand what i mean when I said Lopez have chance to win this fight.


You were right, the chance you are talking was a "big chance" because Loma got dominated in the fight, and Lopez who is selling the fight well got the win in this fight, the Kid was a real warrior, I would watch all his upcoming fights for sure, and of course Loma as well as I know he'll bounce back.
Loma might bounce back but he's currently feeling disappointed and still dont accept the winning.



I am quite shock also to the result as I didn't expect that it will end up to a big upset as Lomanchenko is the favored boxer to win this fight. Upon watching their fight I can see that Lopez was able to dominate Lomachenko base on punches landed.

Lopez did his best and he deserve his win and for Lomanchenko, he should do better next time in order to avoid this kind of upset in his future fights.
Yes, Lomanchenko was favored to win the fight but I saw something inspiring in Lopez despite Loma hype statement which i believe make him to underestimate his opponent and I read that Loma doesn't agree with the fight scorecard but whatever it is, the decision is to make.

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October 20, 2020, 10:52:10 PM
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Honestly, this fight was one of the best boxing match this year and I'm sure Lopez winning the fight will shocked all Loma fans and others that believed in Loma statement when he claimed to have the fight in bag, I'm sure you guys now understand what i mean when I said Lopez have chance to win this fight.


You were right, the chance you are talking was a "big chance" because Loma got dominated in the fight, and Lopez who is selling the fight well got the win in this fight, the Kid was a real warrior, I would watch all his upcoming fights for sure, and of course Loma as well as I know he'll bounce back.
Loma might bounce back but he's currently feeling disappointed and still dont accept the winning.
The feeling is normal, losing in a fight is not easy to accept especially for him who was a champion for a very long time, and this young opponent just upset him like that, he didn't even give a good fight, he was like a challenger in the fight and Lopez was the champ.


I am quite shock also to the result as I didn't expect that it will end up to a big upset as Lomanchenko is the favored boxer to win this fight. Upon watching their fight I can see that Lopez was able to dominate Lomachenko base on punches landed.

Lopez did his best and he deserve his win and for Lomanchenko, he should do better next time in order to avoid this kind of upset in his future fights.
Yes, Lomanchenko was favored to win the fight but I saw something inspiring in Lopez despite Loma hype statement which i believe make him to underestimate his opponent and I read that Loma doesn't agree with the fight scorecard but whatever it is, the decision is to make.

Actually I am already convince that Loma would lost, I'm not shocked hearing the score card as that was no cheating, it's what's happening in the fight.

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October 21, 2020, 09:52:03 PM
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Everything is done here, Loma lost and congratulations to Lopez, I believe this thread should be locked, OP might have forgotten to lock this thread.  Grin

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Everything is done here, Loma lost and congratulations to Lopez, I believe this thread should be locked, OP might have forgotten to lock this thread.  Grin

Thanks for the reminder mate but i intentionally delayed the locking of this thread because this is an upset and many bettors will also upset of the outcome (including me lol) but this is boxing and gambling, anything happens. Time to lock this thread now.
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