I believe this account is handled by someone else

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Not if two people already known each other for few years and they use to do it. I asked him only as we were close and use to do meetings at Skype. I asked him so we can start where we left, and if he is real G.K he will or would have already completed that ID verification with me.

I know you as well as I know him, i.e. nothing. And I know that he wrote from time to time on the local board of greece, and that he still does, just as he has signed two messages from a staked address. So for me to believe that he is not the original owner I need more than you saying that he has not made a face call with you.

I also spent some time without loggin in the forum and someone could claim that nowadays whoever manages this account is not me, and that I have to make a face call even though I can sign messages from my staked address. I will not tolerate that.

In your case, if what you say is true, I understand that you don't trust him and you can leave him a tag, either neutral or negative, but also think that maybe he didn't think as highly of you as you thought, and that's why he broke off the relationship. Sometimes it happens. I don't see much logic in the alternative version. Buying an account and keeping it unused for almost 4 years when you write in Greek and can sign messages from staked addresses, as opposed to what we see in almost every other case of accusations of accounts changing hands.

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[JollyGood]

You haven't looked very hard, then. I have picked up pages of his post history randomly and I do see posts written in Greek. On page 51, or this one from May 2013, at the beginning of his post history. And I haven't looked very hard, so I'm sure there are many, many more.

Ah, that serves me right for posting well past my usual sleep time  

Is this a joke or what? Are we going to ask for KYC now to prove ownership of bitcointalk accounts? Face calls? If he severed his relationship with the OP for some reason, maybe he suddenly doesn't feel like talking to him for the same reason he stopped talking to him.

No we do not need to ask anybody for KYC to prove their identity and if he has severed his relationship with the OP and decides to not provide an explanation that is for him. What concerned me after reading the OP was recalling an account not that long ago seemed to have been traded and signing a message to demonstrate ownership was part of the deal.

Let us not forget, he signed a message from a known address, that means if the account was sold/purchased the known address was part of the deal just as many sales include nowadays.

How do you know this? As far as I know signing a message has always been considered the strongest way to prove ownership of a bitcointalk account

I do not know, that is why I stated "if". The part I should have worded differently was the "all available evidence" part.

Nobody should ever have to "commit to ID verification" here, that's creepy.

Yes it is but in this instance I think the OP was stating he was concerned by he was being avoided with someone he was on those types of terms with. And with that along with the return after inactivity no doubt made the OP concerned.

He has mentioned "Greece" dozens of times in his posting history:

I have no idea how I missed it. I should have been in bed by that time, I hold my hand up because I got that one wrong. I was wrongly under the impression he was from the same country as the OP.

Additionally, threatening people with negative tags if they don't respond to your inquiry - as you have done with your neutral trust - is not cool. Nobody should have to provide anybody with additional information about themselves. Its on you as an investigator to find the information yourself. In this instance, it was quite easy to do.

I am sending him a PM to apologise. As mentioned above by someone else, of he no longer wishes to interact with the OP that is a decision for him. He has signed a message from a known address therefore he does not need to do anything else.

[shasan]

ask the original owner to make that video call to claim he is still operating the account. We do not know what he will say but he should be allowed some time to reply.

Bro, are you crazy? As a crypto user, how can you/we ask for video call verification (called know your customer). We have no right to do that and if we do that then what does bitcoin stand for? The writing style is okay, signing message okay. Now we can't say anything until there is anything happened which is suspicious.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Bro, are you crazy? As a crypto user, how can you/we ask for video call verification (called know your customer). We have no right to do that and if we do that then what does bitcoin stand for? The writing style is okay, signing message okay. Now we can't say anything until there is anything happened which is suspicious.

Hey, friend Sashan. If you're going to respond to something JollyGood wrote on October 13, 2023, 02:21:42 AM it wouldn't hurt to look at what he wrote next on October 13, 2023, 12:43:19 PM after nutildah and I made similar criticisms. In short:

No we do not need to ask anybody for KYC to prove their identity and if he has severed his relationship with the OP and decides to not provide an explanation that is for him.

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I am sending him a PM to apologise. As mentioned above by someone else, of he no longer wishes to interact with the OP that is a decision for him. He has signed a message from a known address therefore he does not need to do anything else.

[irfan_pak10]

ask the original owner to make that video call to claim he is still operating the account. We do not know what he will say but he should be allowed some time to reply.

Bro, are you crazy? As a crypto user, how can you/we ask for video call verification (called know your customer). We have no right to do that and if we do that then what does bitcoin stand for? The writing style is okay, signing message okay. Now we can't say anything until there is anything happened which is suspicious.

Hi bro, I understand crypto is all about being Anon. One should remain anonymous in this field and crypto allows us to be in that way. But, the case we are discussing is different, as I mentioned in the OP we have know each other for few years and we he worked for me on many projects, being my BDM, we used to have meeting with clients and internal meetings and we do it with Face calls. The way he left suddenly and how he appeared back it was strange and I know he already provided all the proofs but I was insisting on face call because I wanted to work with him again on my future projects.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Hi bro, I understand crypto is all about being Anon. One should remain anonymous in this field and crypto allows us to be in that way. But, the case we are discussing is different, as I mentioned in the OP we have know each other for few years and we he worked for me on many projects, being my BDM, we used to have meeting with clients and internal meetings and we do it with Face calls. The way he left suddenly and how he appeared back it was strange and I know he already provided all the proofs but I was insisting on face call because I wanted to work with him again on my future projects.

But I think that's a matter between you and him.

I don't think any DT is going to neg tag him because he doesn't want to do a face call with you. We need proof that he is not the same person, especially after he has signed a message. I understand that you doubt it but I don't think there is anything else we can do as things stand.

[irfan_pak10]

Hi bro, I understand crypto is all about being Anon. One should remain anonymous in this field and crypto allows us to be in that way. But, the case we are discussing is different, as I mentioned in the OP we have know each other for few years and we he worked for me on many projects, being my BDM, we used to have meeting with clients and internal meetings and we do it with Face calls. The way he left suddenly and how he appeared back it was strange and I know he already provided all the proofs but I was insisting on face call because I wanted to work with him again on my future projects.

But I think that's a matter between you and him.

I don't think any DT is going to neg tag him because he doesn't want to do a face call with you. We need proof that he is not the same person, especially after he has signed a message. I understand that you doubt it but I don't think there is anything else we can do as things stand.

Exactly, We will sort this out in one way or other, still have some of my doubts, but never asked any DT guy to give him neg, it was not my intentioned to give him neg feedback when I started this thread, it was created just for awareness purposes.

[irfan_pak10]

The last thing remaining is identity verification, Which I can do easily through video call, which we used to do back in 2019. Hope @alani123 can do this step with me.

Thank you @alani123 for having a call with me today, which went well. Obviously you grew, as it's been 4 years now since we made contact. Welcome back bro, Im glad to know everything is fine with you now at least. Hope to see you more here, and I hope we can work as we were used to working in the past.

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Thank you @alani123 for having a call with me today, which went well. Obviously you grew, as it's been 4 years now since we made contact. Welcome back bro, Im glad to know everything is fine with you now at least. Hope to see you more here, and I hope we can work as we were used to working in the past.

Since you got the final answers to why you started this thread, it's probably best to lock it now. There is no need for further discussion on this topic, all further writings here will be just useless spam.