Requesting a permanent ban for The-One-Above-All

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Many of us have/had this moron on ignore for long periods of time but it’s getting hard to ignore this idiot now.
He’s started threads just today with outrageous accusations against good quality posters & trustworthy, valuable members of the community.

Just today -  

1.) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217236.0 - OPEN CHALLENGE to o_e_l_e_o - Watch us humiliate this fucking troll in public !

2.) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217246.0 - _Darkstar - chipmixer is it sponsoring TROLLS and Liars?

3.) More mindless trolling - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217280.0

4.) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217273.0 - Meta > THE FINAL SHOWDOWN - ALL DT , MODS and THEYMOS -- take us of ignore!!!!!

I’m asking a moderator to please perm ban this poster, his incessant bull shit ramblings have been going on for months now & today it’s got worse.

bitcointalk.org is a sacred place for bitcoin lovers to be & this guy shits on Satoshi’s genius by being here.

Please do what I think would benefit all of us & ban him.



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[suchmoon]

Temp ban to cool off - maybe.

Given that even repeat offenders like game-protect or korner's farm are given free reign here, I wouldn't hold my breath for a perma-ban on this mostly harmless troll.

Yes, harmless. All people need to do is stop responding to his threads.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Temp ban to cool off - maybe.

Given that even repeat offenders like game-protect or korner's farm are given free reign here, I wouldn't hold my breath for a perma-ban on this mostly harmless troll.

Yes, harmless. All people need to do is stop responding to his threads.

Just seems quite sad that many of us come here & enjoy chatting with like-minded people about our passion bitcoin.

Some people have to try & ruin everything.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

1.) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217236.0 - OPEN CHALLENGE to o_e_l_e_o - Watch us humiliate this fucking troll in public !

I saw that thread but didn't read any of it, but if TOAA has got some sort of beef with o_e_l_e_o, then he's even more of an idiot than I thought.  Leo is anything but a troll, and his posts are intelligent and informative--unlike TOAA's, which are pure trolling.

bitcointalk.org is a sacred place for bitcoin lovers to be & this guy shits on Satoshi’s genius by being here.

I would agree with this to an extent.  There's always been some sort of drama going on here, and it kind of keeps the place lively at times.  I wouldn't want Theymos to sanitize it out of some misguided attempt to respect Satoshi's influence on the forum.  On the other hand, as I said previously there is a rule about troll posts and I do think TOAA has violated that rule many times.  Plus I think at this point the community is sick of him and his ramblings, which are obviously not accomplishing anything except to piss some members off. 

CH/TOAA's crap has been going on way too long, and even with me having him on ignore I still can't avoid seeing the titles of the threads he starts.  At the very least I think quite a few of his posts and/or threads should be deleted.  I wouldn't be heartbroken if he got a temp or a permaban either.

[TheNewAnon135246]

Temp ban to cool off - maybe.

Given that even repeat offenders like game-protect or korner's farm are given free reign here, I wouldn't hold my breath for a perma-ban on this mostly harmless troll.

Yes, harmless. All people need to do is stop responding to his threads.

I totally agree. TOAO shouldn't get punished for being extra retarded. The forum rules should apply equally for everyone.

[Lafu]

Agree on a longer Temp Ban to cool him down.
The other problem with that is when he come back i guess it will gets more worst as it already is now.

Every thread he opens ends up for going at Tman , Lauda , yogg and all the others that he write in every thread !

As suchmoon  has written a few times dont feed him , its an endless story with him !

[suchmoon]

Just seems quite sad that many of us come here & enjoy chatting with like-minded people about our passion bitcoin.

Some people have to try & ruin everything.

It used to piss me off but in the grand scheme of things the presence of idiots like CH doesn't really take away from my enjoyment of the forum.

The only not-so-harmless aspect of his incessant trolling is the potential negative impression of the forum it creates for new members. But then again, this forum always had a sink-or-swim approach to newbies, up to and including not giving them a link to forum rules. So encountering a troll or two or a dozen and learning to ignore them is just part of becoming a bitcoiner I guess.

[o_e_l_e_o]

1.) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217236.0 - OPEN CHALLENGE to o_e_l_e_o - Watch us humiliate this fucking troll in public !

I saw that thread but didn't read any of it, but if TOAA has got some sort of beef with o_e_l_e_o, then he's even more of an idiot than I thought.  Leo is anything but a troll, and his posts are intelligent and informative--unlike TOAA's, which are pure trolling.

Thanks for the vote of confidence guys.

I was alerted to thread about me thanks to Loyce's notification service. I have no intention of responding to it for three main reasons (detailed below). Indeed, I haven't even read it as he remains firmly on ignore. I'm sure if there were any serious concerns about my conduct on the forum they would be raised by a reputable user.

Firstly, no matter what you say, no matter what evidence or proof you provide, it will never be enough. There is nothing you can say to win an argument against a troll like this. Evidence will be denied, goalposts will be shifted, new claims will be fabricated. You are wasting your time trying.

Secondly, I don't care what he thinks or says about me. I have zero respect for this user. If someone reputable has concerns with my behavior, I'd be more than happy to address them openly and in a mature manner.

Thirdly, and most importantly, as I've said many times before: "Don't feed the troll". I can appreciate the frustration and annoyance, but every reply to him is the attention he so desperately craves. Starve him of attention - no replies, no anger, no new threads, just every one of his threads with zero replies and every post which is off topic being ignored or reported - and this will end. The continued collective outrage is his raison d'être.


Now, in terms of a ban, making frivolous allegations is not ban worthy. We absolutely shouldn't be punishing people for saying things we don't like, even if those things are outright lies. What is ban worthy is him derailing multiple threads with the same off topic nonsense. This behavior specifically impacts on the ability of other forum members to use the forum for its intended purpose, and if after many of his posts being deleted for this reason and being given warnings he still continues with this, then a temporary ban in the first instance is entirely appropriate in my opinion.

[TMAN]

I have an issue with you Leo... I think you are awesome bro..

Ass for the assclown dicklicker that is TOAA I fully support any ban. Minimum of 6 weeks preference for Nuke, anyone can bring what they want to this place, but the continued onslaught of shit against any member of DT or anyone who speaks against them is just stupid

[Jet Cash]

I've had him on ignore  for months. I can't remember what prompted that, but it doesn't look as if I have missed anything by ignoring him. I'm surprised that more people don't use the ignore feature if his posting annoys them.

[LTU_btc]

Well, but he haven't done anything to get permanent ban. Temp ban - yes, it's an option. Here we have freedom of speech and permanently banning biggest trollds just would give a reason like Ver to scream about censorship on Bitcointalk.
People like TOAA, game-protect, Bitcoin SV and other is annoying as fuck, but there is no enough reasons to ban them permanently. Ignore button is only solution now.

[GazetaBitcoin]

I totally agree. TOAO shouldn't get punished for being extra retarded. The forum rules should apply equally for everyone.

Maybe a psychological or an IQ test should be filled when registering a new account Who fails the test can't become a member.

[suchmoon]

Maybe a psychological or an IQ test should be filled when registering a new account Who fails the test can't become a member.

Great idea. Also full KYC with cavity search and a DNA swab to make sure only blue-eyed Aryans are allowed.

[El duderino_]

One major problem...

Ban "The one above all" ..... get "The one above god" or whatever ...

Instant revealing himself with his posts of-course, I think he just doesn't have an account he really care for to much as its a F***ed account so probably he will be back faster as he was banned

There is no cure to get rid of a total loser/troll, only a scrolling finger or ignore for them that find him to annoying.

[gentlemand]

Great idea. Also full KYC with cavity search and a DNA swab to make sure only blue-eyed Aryans are allowed.

I would support something along the lines of adoption - home visits, family interviews, endoscopy, criminal record checks and closely supervised play sessions.

This forum should recruit around 5-600 case workers, rising to 10,000 during bubbles.

[TMAN]

So we can all take this thread and mine as an OBSERVABLE instance of users being bored of TOAA and his trolling antics.

Theymos please take some action against this cancer user,

[examplens]

You can't do anything there.
It is Sealioning.

Sealioning (also spelled sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment which consists of pursuing people with persistent requests for evidence or repeated questions while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity. It may take the form of "incessant, bad-faith invitations to engage in debate". 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning


When I see his post always think of https://youtu.be/wmVkJvieaOA

[The-One-Above-All]

Since it seems okay to break local rules in META especially when defending YOUR OWN BAN LOL

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217384.msg53598360#msg53598360

we tested it and as you see, it does not work.


How about people just crush the accused's defense?? that would be better and a more credible case for the BAN right?? let's get to the bottom of this for REAL.


However I want to JOIN the debate, rather than derail the debate (which I never do anyway). Let's make a start. Right now I am voting for not even a temp ban because posting the truth is not an offense this forum should be banning people for.


1. LFC bitcoins claim is that you should ban someone for making " with outrageous accusations against good quality posters & trustworthy, valuable members of the community."

let's run with that ...

Which of the posts that LFC lists as evidence MEET THAT CRITERIA.

I mean all you need to do is demonstrate that our central points ABOUT THOSE "valuable members of the community" are untrue and you can debunk them clearly.

I mean NOBODY debunked any of the claims on the dirty turds thread did they?? why ?? because they are observable instances. Can you debunk observable instances ... WELL you can try to nutildah the evidence away so they are no longer observable I guess. Perhaps try with that one.

I think we need to drill down on the "with outrageous accusations against good quality posters & trustworthy, valuable members of the community."  

Which are the outrageous accusations?? let's start with that.

We can bring in later the senible and credible punishments for varying degrees of danger posed by each member later.

Let's get started. I want to know for real if it is sensible to ban us. I mean I don't think making " outrageous accusations against good quality posters & trustworthy, valuable members of the community" is very nice at all so if this is TRUE. Who will be first to demonstrate these accusations are incorrect and debunk them conclusively.

Who will go first?? LFC bitcoin. Why don't you take the lead or even TMan since this is your idea.  

I mean the person who said we are sealioning or whatever that is. Have another look on the dirty turds threads. These are the LIES and TROLLING they believe exist.  Now we have supplied observable instances so this is not sealioning at all. If the observable instances are not REAL and never took place that is different. Let's all have a nice long look at it all.

I mean the VERY LAST THING we want to do is accuse valuable honest members of things they HAVE NOT DONE, that would be clearly wrong and certainly grounds (when they are proven incorrect which they should be since they are relating to things they have posted here and people can verify) for some form of public punishment at the least as a deterrent to stop them doing it again.

Let's all be sensible and just get to the bottom of this.

[eddie13]

Nay..

[hacker1001101001]

If it's hard for us to ban system wide harmful trolls like korner and co and some others who just damage and try to misuse the system to create chaotic situations, I dont even think anyone here has anything under there ass too say what TOAA abused instade of using his freedom of speech for asking pokey questions.