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I saw some of the scam busters in the forum talking about taking the case to the court on scam ICOs, my question is, is it really happening.
Can you give me scam ICO that was already taken to the court and teams are being punished? I know about Centra.. so give me others.
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January 14, 2020, 12:56:28 AM |
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Plex coin, diamond ico, bitconnect, ReCoin and many more. It's good to see that those scam busters are aware of that and they wanna take the scam ico to the court and i hope that will be happening in the future. But the problem is how they can deal with the regulation that is always different in many countries. Let's say when you are located in US and the scammers are coming from abroad and how can you deal with it? i think that the possibility to make a report to the security exchange commission like SEC and that institution will try to create a call for another country to take any action to that scam ico.
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January 14, 2020, 01:05:50 AM |
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I saw some of the scam busters in the forum talking about taking the case to the court on scam ICOs, my question is, is it really happening.
Can you give me scam ICO that was already taken to the court and teams are being punished? I know about Centra.. so give me others.
Not all of them obviously, the high profile cases when there's lot's of money involved. Envion mining comes in mind for starters. They really should make some hard example cases to scare the people who could try those again.
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January 14, 2020, 01:29:10 AM |
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I saw some of the scam busters in the forum talking about taking the case to the court on scam ICOs, my question is, is it really happening.
Can you give me scam ICO that was already taken to the court and teams are being punished? I know about Centra.. so give me others.
Not all of them obviously, the high profile cases when there's lot's of money involved. Envion mining comes in mind for starters. They really should make some hard example cases to scare the people who could try those again. Envion is the biggest scam project but I did not get the information that the team and their founders received the right sentence (prison), whether this was just to frighten or not, obviously every country has different rules regarding crypto. But with the punishment that has a deterrent effect, I personally believe the crypto market will get better.
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January 14, 2020, 01:29:52 AM |
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I think only big scam projects are taken to court if its small time projects scammers can easily fly away and thats sad reality. Will never know but its up those victim’s on where they will bring their complaints and charges to bad actors up to what level but maybe some of them just gave up chasing justice.
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January 14, 2020, 01:48:41 AM |
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Yes, usually ico that uses the original profile will be processed. Sometimes it is reportedly not reaching us. But I'm sure someone will report it. When I searched on Google there were indeed many cases of ico scam imprisoned but there was no mention of the project. Just mention the name of the person, maybe it's the CEO.
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January 14, 2020, 02:02:18 AM |
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If that option was as easy as you are saying, then we would have already done that, right? I am someone who got scammed in the ICO sector. There are millions more like me. But I had no option other than forgetting about my losses and moving on, as taking legal action against these criminals is not very easy. I have closely followed the legal action initiated against similar scammers during 2013-14 period. In none of the cases, an outcome has been achieved. Even the victims of Mt Gox hack of 2014 are still waiting for their compensation.
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January 14, 2020, 02:08:35 AM |
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I think only big scam projects are taken to court if its small time projects scammers can easily fly away and thats sad reality. Will never know but its up those victim’s on where they will bring their complaints and charges to bad actors up to what level but maybe some of them just gave up chasing justice.
Some were to good to execute telling they got bankrupt and they can't no longer operate. It will depend on how strict their government in operating crypto projects. If their not very particular in it especially if not many reported them, they don't give it a damn care as they think it is our decision to invest in them that's the risk of investing we do.
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January 14, 2020, 02:11:33 AM |
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If that option was as easy as you are saying, then we would have already done that, right? I am someone who got scammed in the ICO sector. There are millions more like me. But I had no option other than forgetting about my losses and moving on, as taking legal action against these criminals is not very easy. I have closely followed the legal action initiated against similar scammers during 2013-14 period. In none of the cases, an outcome has been achieved. Even the victims of Mt Gox hack of 2014 are still waiting for their compensation.
Bitter truth, only a few out of thousands scams involving ICO, exchanges and many more out there could be taken to court and that also involves tremendous effort to gather the evidences as well as tracing the scammers which usually flee overseas with the money. Mt Gox I assume is among the massive scam that is attracting the authorities' attention meanwhile there are so many scams out there unrevealed and yeah, there's nothing we can do about it. Taking it to court might not necessarily guarantees reimbursement but instead might just further add to our losses or in other word, not worth it.
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January 14, 2020, 03:16:40 AM |
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I saw some of the scam busters in the forum talking about taking the case to the court on scam ICOs, my question is, is it really happening.
Can you give me scam ICO that was already taken to the court and teams are being punished? I know about Centra.. so give me others.
Few members already mentioned names but I also Add Centra teach. This coin also scammed their investors.Later the was punished by their government.Also want to add bitgrail,though thia is not coin/token.It's Exchanger.But as far I know after hacking,In Italy the case was running.that's why I can say that Scam Icos really taken to the court.
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January 14, 2020, 03:50:22 AM |
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those are actually a handful, there are still a lot of scam projects that have been missed, and the crooks are still free. ICOs are an easy form of crowdfunding but there are no clear rules, investors can hardly get their money back if the project is a scam. So protect yourself before expecting law.
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January 14, 2020, 04:12:14 AM |
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Indeed, there has been a lot of ICO blowing on this forum, in fact it often happens that it takes victims to easily run away with investors' money. I have heard the news that there have been several reports of ICO fraud, but until now I have not found a report about a scamer who has been tried or has been in prison even I have not seen the article, is that just nonsense? Well, the Centra project also, I think, is not clear whether the CEO is on trial or not.
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January 14, 2020, 04:17:29 AM |
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Yes it happen because some of them are real registered and can be checked the identity of the team behind that ICOs and is good that finally this happen and they will bu judged, i hope investors will recover money from these scams. I also heard the news last week about on ICO dev that has been arrested.
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crisanto01
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January 14, 2020, 04:28:36 AM |
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Since ICO was just new and crypto don't much regulated in our government that's why it is so hard for now to sue scammers as they can just run away and it is hard to prove sometimes how they took our money. And not all investors are taking legal action, some just don't mind and just move on, that's why scammers are confident that they can just easily run away.
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January 14, 2020, 04:51:28 AM |
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I saw some of the scam busters in the forum talking about taking the case to the court on scam ICOs, my question is, is it really happening.
Can you give me scam ICO that was already taken to the court and teams are being punished? I know about Centra.. so give me others.
they DO end up in court, but the RESULTS are usually more then underwhelming ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) by the time the justice system does its shit, the coins have been stashed, nothing is in FIAT. Theres nothing to recover, and the criminals just wait for the heat to leave Sadly, the court system is not setup for cryptocurrencies, and even if scammers are caught, they are NEVER really punished harshly BUT: if you run a blackmarket website it seems you will get life w/o parole....
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Beparanf
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January 14, 2020, 04:55:25 AM |
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Since ICO was just new and crypto don't much regulated in our government that's why it is so hard for now to sue scammers as they can just run away and it is hard to prove sometimes how they took our money. And not all investors are taking legal action, some just don't mind and just move on, that's why scammers are confident that they can just easily run away.
If there will be number of victim who will take a stand to sue them, to report and to explain how they got scam,this companies have tendency to be in jail. However it will really depend on what country they are located same with where country the people they get scammed as each countries have different say regarding crypto investment.
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January 14, 2020, 05:10:42 AM |
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The real matter is who will take the responsibility of authority to take the scammer to the court. As, you know these concepts are decentralised and anonymous. The investor who are making investment in the ICO they are the only responsible of their investment so nobody take the legal action. But, some countries are restricted these kind of investment passed the law regarding the cryptocurrency to regulate these. So, only those countries may take the responsibility to take the court.
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NathanJB
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January 14, 2020, 05:15:18 AM |
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I saw some of the scam busters in the forum talking about taking the case to the court on scam ICOs, my question is, is it really happening.
Can you give me scam ICO that was already taken to the court and teams are being punished? I know about Centra.. so give me others.
I heard about Centra also. Have you heard about Titanium? I guess the developers of that scam project were also taken to court and even jailed. I am not sure though. But I've read about that in the news more than a year ago. But the sad truth is that most of these scammers are still around and probably involved in other scam projects again.
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btc_angela
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January 14, 2020, 05:18:17 AM |
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I saw some of the scam busters in the forum talking about taking the case to the court on scam ICOs, my question is, is it really happening.
Can you give me scam ICO that was already taken to the court and teams are being punished? I know about Centra.. so give me others.
Not all of them obviously, the high profile cases when there's lot's of money involved. Envion mining comes in mind for starters. They really should make some hard example cases to scare the people who could try those again. Yes, maybe those high profile cases, but majority of scam projects are not taken to the court because we all know that the people behind the project just hides in some country with the money or worst just re invent themselves to try and scam more money out of unsuspecting victims here. I'm not sure about Onecoin though, I haven't seen any latest update about that scam project.
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aioc
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January 14, 2020, 05:26:58 AM |
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I saw some of the scam busters in the forum talking about taking the case to the court on scam ICOs, my question is, is it really happening.
Can you give me scam ICO that was already taken to the court and teams are being punished? I know about Centra.. so give me others.
There are ICO's and scam projects that are prosecuted but their number is very small compared to the number of scammers and those who run away with money, one of the reason is, the distance if you are investor from Asia and you invested in a project that is based on Europe you will have to travel and spend your money, and you need more funds to file charges.
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