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January 20, 2020, 10:17:25 AM
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I think this year could bring more positive outcome since many people are anticipating the event that could potentially trigger another parabolic rise.
I'm also thinking the same, since the Bitcoin halving hype has been in a lot of discussions in 2018. But, inevitably there are still some doubts that this year would be different from the last halving events, thus causing the price slow to rise. Some even predicted that the halving may cause a worse price decrease. Currently, It seems that the chances of Bitcoin to reach the 5 digit figure again is somehow big, judging how the market behaves these past few days.

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January 20, 2020, 04:01:57 PM
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No one knows for sure whether this will happen or not. However if that happens then it will be very difficult. Because when the media propagates everything positively, the market goes towards the negative. Because it is manipulation. In the case of market manipulation, media interference is huge. Media whale spreads news and creates fomo. In my opinion, market manipulation does not make any difference for long holders. If the price increases in 2020 or in 2021, both are good for me.

I stopped reading the media news. I now only look at Bitcoin Hold. I am a long term believer. Great changes do not last long.

A 100% gain is very reasonable in the halving year. It would still leave us below of the ATH, this way we have plenty of time and momentum in 2021 for the insane gains of the next ATH.

A 100% gain is reasonable? I don't think so. It's possible but it's not something that is so easily ahievable. Halving might bring the price rise but only on short breath and not so huge. Also, don't forget there is a possibility for price dump too, halving doesn't necessary briing only positive price trends.

We witnessed already so many 100% gains in the last bull runs. It is very reasonable to expect more of these gains, IF we are in the next bull run. Just look how easily we went x3 in the pump last year, while breaking every resistance like it was a wall out of paper. So guys, don't sell to early when the real next bull starts. You're going to bite your own ass when you're left behind while the train continues.

And until now, halving brought always positive price trends after it happened. So it is wise to assume that history will repeat itself again.
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January 20, 2020, 04:21:51 PM
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I think this year could bring more positive outcome since many people are anticipating the event that could potentially trigger another parabolic rise.
I'm also thinking the same, since the Bitcoin halving hype has been in a lot of discussions in 2018. But, inevitably there are still some doubts that this year would be different from the last halving events, thus causing the price slow to rise. Some even predicted that the halving may cause a worse price decrease. Currently, It seems that the chances of Bitcoin to reach the 5 digit figure again is somehow big, judging how the market behaves these past few days.

Everyone is expecting a five digit figure this year just because there is a halving but I don't think the halving might be the reason for this sudden increase of price lately. Although Bitcoin did break the $9k resistance but it suddenly dump after it reached a certain point of price. I can't tell yet if Bitcoin could reach a 100% gain this year because it is still blurry and uncertain to say.

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January 21, 2020, 04:09:27 AM
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In the end these whales will have their own huge share of gains once the btc price spikes and on the other side of the trade which compose mostly of smaller btc holders will just left behind with heavy losses. Unless, you have a knack of knowing these whales moves you will be rewarded.

Not necessarily. You don't have to know when these whales will move. Everything is right there in front of you. All you have to see is the chart and the prices. If there is a pump and you have bought your coin when the prices are cheaper, then you can sell. If you are seeing a dump and you have available money then buy. It does not mean that because you are not a whale and you cannot manipulate the prices you will not profit from it.

Otherwise, use these strategy. LOL.
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January 21, 2020, 06:38:32 AM
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If the price of Bitcoin rose during the previous halvings, then why not increase during this halving. The assumptions are quite logical and I do not see any difficulties for Bitcoin to grow by 100% during this large-scale event. It is possible that this growth has already begun.

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January 21, 2020, 06:59:04 AM
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If the price of Bitcoin rose during the previous halvings, then why not increase during this halving. The assumptions are quite logical and I do not see any difficulties for Bitcoin to grow by 100% during this large-scale event. It is possible that this growth has already begun.

yes I also agree with you 100% increase is not a difficult thing to achieve bitcoin is still logical. I am also one of those who are optimistic that the price of bitcoin will increase after halving. if the price of bitcoin in May is $ 10k then if this prediction is correct then by the end of this year it is likely that bitcoin will reach $ 20k.

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January 21, 2020, 08:28:14 AM
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Halving is definitely not priced in. That's a no brainer.

100%+ in 2020 is also very possible given the fact that the year started out at around $8k and a 100% increase would not even mean breaching the last all time high. It would take some serious bullish trends to do so but it's certainly not impossible.

Fundstrat is finally making some somewhat believable predictions Roll Eyes
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January 21, 2020, 11:53:10 AM
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A 100% return on investment seems like a conservative estimate to me considering Bitcoin has reached $20,000 in 2017 and $14,000 last year and started this year around $7500.

That means it would get to just $15,000.  I think more like $25,000.

While taking your "conservative estimate", you are accounting for 2017 and 2019, while ignoring 2018 and the two years which preceded 2017. You need to remember about 2018, because during that year the prices went down from $15,000 to $3,000. How can you be sure that such a bearish trend will not occur this year? Also, what about 2014-16, when the prices dipped by 85%?
The changes from situation to situation of the past, simply proves stability is absent in this market industry. Things could change at the present but it does not make it certain the the change at this moment would be positive. Things might go the opposite of our expectations. Just accept the fact that the market is naturally volatile and predictions and assumptions will just result to hasty decisions.
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January 21, 2020, 12:29:00 PM
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In 2019 there was a big call for tesla shorts. Accompanied by an overwhelming volume of news attacking Elon Musk and tesla. I couldn't open my social media timeline without seeing a news article attacking Musk/Tesla over something.
If there are rules banning fake news from influencing market trends. I would be curious to know what they are.
Restricting anything will not be a good idea, if you want to restrict these news then you need to censor stuffs online and if that happens then you will be restricted to even criticize legit cases as it will be removed in the form of attack, so is there a fair line in that regarding, possibly not but we need to understand the FUD news and hopefully just go to through legit media than listening to social media news which are mostly click baits.
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January 21, 2020, 12:33:05 PM
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I think this year could bring more positive outcome since many people are anticipating the event that could potentially trigger another parabolic rise.
I'm also thinking the same, since the Bitcoin halving hype has been in a lot of discussions in 2018. But, inevitably there are still some doubts that this year would be different from the last halving events, thus causing the price slow to rise. Some even predicted that the halving may cause a worse price decrease. Currently, It seems that the chances of Bitcoin to reach the 5 digit figure again is somehow big, judging how the market behaves these past few days.

Everyone is expecting a five digit figure this year just because there is a halving but I don't think the halving might be the reason for this sudden increase of price lately. Although Bitcoin did break the $9k resistance but it suddenly dump after it reached a certain point of price. I can't tell yet if Bitcoin could reach a 100% gain this year because it is still blurry and uncertain to say.
If we will figure out. Every bitcoin halving there were a history that bitcoin price moved up. The surge of bitcoin price during bitcoin halving is a sign that there are many participants when bitcoin division of supply comes in. This year will also be remarkable once bitcoin breaks it all time high. Wether it goes up or down, it is good to invest because bitcoin is currently on its average price.



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January 21, 2020, 01:28:45 PM
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Don't get too excited because of current bull run, we have whole year ahead of us. Its Iran USA tension which stimulated current bull run and even tension is over, the bull run is still ON. Bitcoin is known for giving huge returns only to those who can buy at right time and HODL. Dont expect good from bitcoin if you start buying now.
People shouldn't always expect something in return from their investment but, realize the possibilities that might happen to your money good or bad. People investing should make sa back up plan when the events goes sideways so they won't be left hanging around when Bitcoin price falls.

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People shouldn't always expect something in return from their investment but, realize the possibilities that might happen to your money good or bad. People investing should make sa back up plan when the events goes sideways so they won't be left hanging around when Bitcoin price falls.
What are you even talking about  Roll Eyes. People invest their money thinking it will have some benefit in the long run and no one will spend their hard earned money to stuck up at something that has no valuation. There is no morality in the idea of stacking your money anywhere and i bet even you will not do that. The market movement happens because huge investment coming into the market and they do not invest if there is no potential in it Tongue.
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January 21, 2020, 03:56:35 PM
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I think this year could bring more positive outcome since many people are anticipating the event that could potentially trigger another parabolic rise.
I'm also thinking the same, since the Bitcoin halving hype has been in a lot of discussions in 2018. But, inevitably there are still some doubts that this year would be different from the last halving events, thus causing the price slow to rise. Some even predicted that the halving may cause a worse price decrease. Currently, It seems that the chances of Bitcoin to reach the 5 digit figure again is somehow big, judging how the market behaves these past few days.

Everyone is expecting a five digit figure this year just because there is a halving but I don't think the halving might be the reason for this sudden increase of price lately. Although Bitcoin did break the $9k resistance but it suddenly dump after it reached a certain point of price. I can't tell yet if Bitcoin could reach a 100% gain this year because it is still blurry and uncertain to say.
If we will figure out. Every bitcoin halving there were a history that bitcoin price moved up. The surge of bitcoin price during bitcoin halving is a sign that there are many participants when bitcoin division of supply comes in. This year will also be remarkable once bitcoin breaks it all time high. Wether it goes up or down, it is good to invest because bitcoin is currently on its average price.
So do you think this year will make a boost of the market because of the Bitcoin halving? I don't think so, there may be a price surge this year but it is not the indicator that we will having a bull market already. History shows that Bitcoin halving will take almost a year before the effect of halving start a bullish market slowly.

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January 21, 2020, 04:58:10 PM
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I think this year could bring more positive outcome since many people are anticipating the event that could potentially trigger another parabolic rise.
I'm also thinking the same, since the Bitcoin halving hype has been in a lot of discussions in 2018. But, inevitably there are still some doubts that this year would be different from the last halving events, thus causing the price slow to rise. Some even predicted that the halving may cause a worse price decrease. Currently, It seems that the chances of Bitcoin to reach the 5 digit figure again is somehow big, judging how the market behaves these past few days.

Everyone is expecting a five digit figure this year just because there is a halving but I don't think the halving might be the reason for this sudden increase of price lately. Although Bitcoin did break the $9k resistance but it suddenly dump after it reached a certain point of price. I can't tell yet if Bitcoin could reach a 100% gain this year because it is still blurry and uncertain to say.
If we will figure out. Every bitcoin halving there were a history that bitcoin price moved up. The surge of bitcoin price during bitcoin halving is a sign that there are many participants when bitcoin division of supply comes in. This year will also be remarkable once bitcoin breaks it all time high. Wether it goes up or down, it is good to invest because bitcoin is currently on its average price.
So do you think this year will make a boost of the market because of the Bitcoin halving? I don't think so, there may be a price surge this year but it is not the indicator that we will having a bull market already. History shows that Bitcoin halving will take almost a year before the effect of halving start a bullish market slowly.
Nothing is certain when it comes to price to this very unpredictable market.Halving event does really have that common impression for market to go in bull run.
but it doesnt mean that it will constantly happen on each event and we might able to see different situation on that upcoming halving.Said by any fundstrat or market gurus
out there but one things for sure where prices cant really be dictated nor be precisely predicted.If it do gain then its good but if it do crash then its a good buying opportunity.

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January 21, 2020, 06:22:48 PM
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No one knows for sure whether this will happen or not. However if that happens then it will be very difficult. Because when the media propagates everything positively, the market goes towards the negative. Because it is manipulation. In the case of market manipulation, media interference is huge. Media whale spreads news and creates fomo. In my opinion, market manipulation does not make any difference for long holders. If the price increases in 2020 or in 2021, both are good for me.

I stopped reading the media news. I now only look at Bitcoin Hold. I am a long term believer. Great changes do not last long.

A 100% gain is very reasonable in the halving year. It would still leave us below of the ATH, this way we have plenty of time and momentum in 2021 for the insane gains of the next ATH.
According to me. If you are an investor then you must have a target. That's what I want to get in this profit. So 100% come this year or next year, I'll sell if I reach my goal. Professional investors never set huge profit targets in the short run. So I'll wait for my goal.

One of many problems of newly investors are that they cut their successful runners very short and sell way to early. You have to ask yourself always "Why am I invested?" "Did we reach the highest adoption?" "What other investments are there, which could be more successful?"

I would like to diversify to the normal stock market for a long time already, but I just don't find anything we the same growth potential or interesting characteristics like Bitcoin. So there is no true "profit target" when I would sell. I guess my life expenses would rise a little with significantly higher Bitcoin prices.

This is however unrelated to my small trading stack, there I am trading rather aggressive for swings and sentiments.
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I think this year could bring more positive outcome since many people are anticipating the event that could potentially trigger another parabolic rise.
I'm also thinking the same, since the Bitcoin halving hype has been in a lot of discussions in 2018. But, inevitably there are still some doubts that this year would be different from the last halving events, thus causing the price slow to rise. Some even predicted that the halving may cause a worse price decrease. Currently, It seems that the chances of Bitcoin to reach the 5 digit figure again is somehow big, judging how the market behaves these past few days.

Everyone is expecting a five digit figure this year just because there is a halving but I don't think the halving might be the reason for this sudden increase of price lately. Although Bitcoin did break the $9k resistance but it suddenly dump after it reached a certain point of price. I can't tell yet if Bitcoin could reach a 100% gain this year because it is still blurry and uncertain to say.
If we will figure out. Every bitcoin halving there were a history that bitcoin price moved up. The surge of bitcoin price during bitcoin halving is a sign that there are many participants when bitcoin division of supply comes in. This year will also be remarkable once bitcoin breaks it all time high. Wether it goes up or down, it is good to invest because bitcoin is currently on its average price.
So do you think this year will make a boost of the market because of the Bitcoin halving? I don't think so, there may be a price surge this year but it is not the indicator that we will having a bull market already. History shows that Bitcoin halving will take almost a year before the effect of halving start a bullish market slowly.
Nothing is certain when it comes to price to this very unpredictable market.Halving event does really have that common impression for market to go in bull run.
but it doesnt mean that it will constantly happen on each event and we might able to see different situation on that upcoming halving.Said by any fundstrat or market gurus
out there but one things for sure where prices cant really be dictated nor be precisely predicted.If it do gain then its good but if it do crash then its a good buying opportunity.
Halving can become a catalyst but we should not expect that there is forever bull run. I said "can" purposely because we are not yet sure that there will be a bull run if the halving became successful. The market is so volatile where the prices are unpredictable. There are now a lot of opinions about halving and it always making doubts for me. Even if there is a popular media or influential person posted about bitcoin, I do not easily believe to them because I do not rely on sentiments, I only rely my decisions on what is happening in the market.

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January 22, 2020, 12:58:37 PM
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People shouldn't always expect something in return from their investment but, realize the possibilities that might happen to your money good or bad. People investing should make sa back up plan when the events goes sideways so they won't be left hanging around when Bitcoin price falls.
What are you even talking about  Roll Eyes. People invest their money thinking it will have some benefit in the long run and no one will spend their hard earned money to stuck up at something that has no valuation. There is no morality in the idea of stacking your money anywhere and i bet even you will not do that. The market movement happens because huge investment coming into the market and they do not invest if there is no potential in it Tongue.
why would someone invest if he will not get any benefit out of it. Getting benefit and earning more by investing little is the basic goal all investors share among each other. In investment people adopt strategies that reduce risk and increase the chances of benefit for them. I think he wanted to say this that people should be ready for every type of results their investment can offer them.

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I agree based on the last halving, the price started to increase about 2 months prior to the halving. If that’s the case this time, then the halving impact will start in mid March.

 
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January 22, 2020, 06:06:05 PM
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I think this year could bring more positive outcome since many people are anticipating the event that could potentially trigger another parabolic rise.
I'm also thinking the same, since the Bitcoin halving hype has been in a lot of discussions in 2018. But, inevitably there are still some doubts that this year would be different from the last halving events, thus causing the price slow to rise. Some even predicted that the halving may cause a worse price decrease. Currently, It seems that the chances of Bitcoin to reach the 5 digit figure again is somehow big, judging how the market behaves these past few days.

But according to my observation the price of bitcoin is rising in the same way as it was increasing in the previous halving. The discussion about the price a the halving of 2016 was the same as it is nowadays. Even in 2016 some people were not sure that the price will rise up to higher value and many were saying that in 2016 halving the price will decrease but everything was very well so even in this time we can expect everything going very well.
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January 22, 2020, 06:27:13 PM
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I agree based on the last halving, the price started to increase about 2 months prior to the halving. If that’s the case this time, then the halving impact will start in mid March.

Based on the last halving price will start to increase before halving, but next two months after the halving price will drop before it start to rise again. If we judge by the history, this pump and dump before the halving happened before every halving, simply too much hype rise the price and after halving we have a decline.
What will happen this year is hard to say, market conditions are different, many things has changed in the past 4 years. Will history repeat itself once more, or we will see some new moment's nobody can say. In less than 6 months we will know everything, so lets wait and see.

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