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January 15, 2020, 10:12:49 PM
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I think that in the next 10 years we're going to see a new kind of city develop.  One where the land is fully-owned by a corporation and rented to residents.  Ownership will be a choice, of course, but most folks will rent because they're "just passing through."  Imagine a block of land, anywhere, free of government restrictions.  People could do as they please for once.  Doctors would not need licensure, leading to the availability of the world's cheapest and best medical care. 

It's a fairly extreme vision, but I think the time is soon for concepts like this one. 
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I think that in the next 10 years we're going to see a new kind of city develop.  One where the land is fully-owned by a corporation and rented to residents.
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I think that in the next 10 years we're going to see a new kind of city develop.  One where the land is fully-owned by a corporation and rented to residents.  Ownership will be a choice, of course, but most folks will rent because they're "just passing through."  Imagine a block of land, anywhere, free of government restrictions.  People could do as they please for once.  Doctors would not need licensure, leading to the availability of the world's cheapest and best medical care. 

It's a fairly extreme vision, but I think the time is soon for concepts like this one. 
this has been here for long ,that is why there are many homeless all over the3 world now and that is reality right?
but what i am looking is about the doctors need no Licensure?i don't think this will happen because Health is concerning the life of all people and having no license is totally not good.









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January 16, 2020, 05:53:54 AM
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My opinion is that corporations and any large structures are faceless and inhuman (if it is not beneficial for them to appear different).
I believe that it is much more profitable for us to use the land and the achievements of our ancestors (relatives). Because our relatives will not wish us bad, they will be able to help in difficult situations. Large corporations will not be able to do this.
Therefore, it’s ideal for me: you have your own land. On which there is your house (and possibly several more houses of your relatives), on which you can grow cereals, fruits, vegetables, berries, get honey, etc.
There is also a forest on your land.
We have the Internet, thanks to which we can work from home (of course, you can go to some center where you work as in an ordinary city, but it's up to you to decide how you prefer).
It turns out that from your ancestors you got a big land with everything necessary for life and prosperity (food, water, electricity from solar panels or other eco-technology, a house, your own piece of nature). All that is required of us is not to be lazy, and then your land will bring you only happiness, and you will give this land to your great-grandchildren with even more wealth than you received.
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January 16, 2020, 08:34:48 AM
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I also think that our city will improve a lot in the future. But the land is solely owned by the corporation and if rented to the residents you do not have to own your own land from which you can grow yourself and do something for your children. And physicians must have a license Without a license no doctor can work successfully.

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January 16, 2020, 04:58:28 PM
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I think that in the next 10 years we're going to see a new kind of city develop.  One where the land is fully-owned by a corporation and rented to residents.  Ownership will be a choice, of course, but most folks will rent because they're "just passing through."  Imagine a block of land, anywhere, free of government restrictions.  People could do as they please for once.  Doctors would not need licensure, leading to the availability of the world's cheapest and best medical care. 

It's a fairly extreme vision, but I think the time is soon for concepts like this one. 

That's not going to happen.
It will happen only in the case that big organizations are going to purchase houses and buildings that already exists inside cities.
Ownership and especially house ownership is rarely transferred to organizations.
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if a 'future town' was to be created inside a country that has a government. then that town will have to still obide by that countries laws,

the only thing that does change is the towns municipal facilities such as who is the landlords, water, electric, telecoms provider. who removes the trash and cleans the streets.

take the disney town linked in another post above.
they stil follow state and federal laws. its not some new government. however the residents wages pay bills and those bills make disney profit.

in short they can act like they re paying a good wage to their workers but then take it right back through the bills they pay when they get home at night. meaning people still dont get a good living wage.

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many companies have already made many worker communities/villages for their workers to live in. and yes its profitable. id say the down side of making these corporate towns common is that things like their residential status may be tied to their employment status. in short if they lose their job they are out. after all if the land lord of the cafee and grocery store in the town is also disney. then the unemployed worker is not really going to get a local job to his home.. and disney wouldnt want to have to build another house for an replacement employee just to keep an unemployed person around.

in california only a 3 daynotice is required for breaking a provision/term of the rental contract. so if a term of the rental contract is to be actively employed by the company. expect a 3 day notice with your final paycheck

i would say having apartment complexes owned by independant corporations and rented out would be more acceptable than these corporate villages linked directly to the persons employer.

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January 17, 2020, 09:29:47 AM
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i would say having apartment complexes owned by independant corporations and rented out would be more acceptable than these corporate villages linked directly to the persons employer.

I also agree, in my country for example these big companies put many rules in the houses that they build for their workers. The companies in my country determine what kind of pet the worker can place in the house where these companies built, there are constant inspections in the houses that these big companies built in my country.

in short: people are not free to do whatever they want in these houses that these big companies build for their workers

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January 17, 2020, 02:57:43 PM
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I think we are getting closer to this idea now
Google and facebook are doing somthing like this
See this article : https://www.citylab.com/solutions/2019/06/alphabet-sidewalk-labs-toronto-quayside-smart-city-google/592453/
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January 18, 2020, 03:49:48 PM
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I think that in the next 10 years we're going to see a new kind of city develop.  One where the land is fully-owned by a corporation and rented to residents.  Ownership will be a choice, of course, but most folks will rent because they're "just passing through."  Imagine a block of land, anywhere, free of government restrictions.  People could do as they please for once.  Doctors would not need licensure, leading to the availability of the world's cheapest and best medical care. 

It's a fairly extreme vision, but I think the time is soon for concepts like this one. 

So rather than forced to follow the rules of the Government you are forced to follow the rules of the Corporation...

As for medicine, the degree ensures you are the real thing and not some snake oil charlatan. Other than a degree you should be free to practice, either for free or for profit, or both as many actually do.

Your idea for a corporate owned city is quite old, even Walt Disney wanted to build such a thing before he died.

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I never really do get much enthusiasm for my ideas about eliminating medical licensure, but let me try to sell you on it:

everyone owns their body, and should be able to choose any provider of their liking, weather they have a license/degree, or not.

Medical care is very, very expensive.  In some cases, it's so expensive that patients can't afford it.  Reputation/feedback systems are cheap and easily available online.  There's a vast wealth of knowledge available online.  Anyone can learn basic (or even advanced) medical skills online, for free.  Providers can be ranked by the quality of the care that they provide.  They would compete with one another to provide the best care, instead of knowing that there's always a limited supply of medical care available because not so many folks are willing or able to attend medical school. 

Thus, the standard needs to change.

Since you own your body, you should be in full control of your choice of healthcare provider. 

AND

Without the hard and fast requirement for a degree or license, more people would practice medicine, and they'd do it at a lower cost. 

What I'm saying here is that since licensure restricts the supply of medical care and causes the price of medical care to reach unaffordable levels, medical licensure kills.

This is just another example of an entrenched industry looking out for itself. 

Whatever country/city/state/whatever first adopts a policy that recognizes people's bodily autonomy (and thus their right to choose anyone to give them care) -- that state will be deeply enriched with innovative, low-cost medical care options.  You can see this a little tiny bit in "medical tourism," but someone needs to take the brakes off. 

Should I make this its own post?  Originally I posted about future cities...

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I think that in the next 10 years we're going to see a new kind of city develop.  One where the land is fully-owned by a corporation and rented to residents.  Ownership will be a choice, of course, but most folks will rent because they're "just passing through."  Imagine a block of land, anywhere, free of government restrictions.  People could do as they please for once.  Doctors would not need licensure, leading to the availability of the world's cheapest and best medical care. 

It's a fairly extreme vision, but I think the time is soon for concepts like this one. 
this has been here for long ,that is why there are many homeless all over the3 world now and that is reality right?
but what i am looking is about the doctors need no Licensure?i don't think this will happen because Health is concerning the life of all people and having no license is totally not good.

In the USA, the Private Membership Association is a type of private organization where doctors don't need a license. Neither do lawyers/attorneys and all kinds of other regulated operations. Think of the barber who can simply cut hair without a license. Google "Private Membership Association."

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if a 'future town' was to be created inside a country that has a government. then that town will have to still obide by that countries laws,

the only thing that does change is the towns municipal facilities such as who is the landlords, water, electric, telecoms provider. who removes the trash and cleans the streets.

take the disney town linked in another post above.
they stil follow state and federal laws. its not some new government. however the residents wages pay bills and those bills make disney profit.

in short they can act like they re paying a good wage to their workers but then take it right back through the bills they pay when they get home at night. meaning people still dont get a good living wage.

..
many companies have already made many worker communities/villages for their workers to live in. and yes its profitable. id say the down side of making these corporate towns common is that things like their residential status may be tied to their employment status. in short if they lose their job they are out. after all if the land lord of the cafee and grocery store in the town is also disney. then the unemployed worker is not really going to get a local job to his home.. and disney wouldnt want to have to build another house for an replacement employee just to keep an unemployed person around.

in california only a 3 daynotice is required for breaking a provision/term of the rental contract. so if a term of the rental contract is to be actively employed by the company. expect a 3 day notice with your final paycheck

i would say having apartment complexes owned by independant corporations and rented out would be more acceptable than these corporate villages linked directly to the persons employer.


The USA is ideal for this. Why? Because the laws are in place and have been for a long time to allow "future towns." Google "Private Membership Association."

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January 19, 2020, 09:26:08 PM
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Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I did make the medical licensure thing its own post:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218999.msg53650545#msg53650545

Cheers!

Also, many thanks to BADecker for the information on Private membership associations.  I live in the US, and I did not know about this.  Thank you!  I'll be checking out your links. 

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The lack of governmental restrictions are the most complicated aspect to achieve because they can cause problems in relation to national security.
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April 24, 2020, 12:35:53 PM
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I think that in the next 10 years we're going to see a new kind of city develop.  One where the land is fully-owned by a corporation and rented to residents.  Ownership will be a choice, of course, but most folks will rent because they're "just passing through."  Imagine a block of land, anywhere, free of government restrictions.  People could do as they please for once.  Doctors would not need licensure, leading to the availability of the world's cheapest and best medical care.  

It's a fairly extreme vision, but I think the time is soon for concepts like this one.  

Having availability to the world's cheapest and best medical care would be the most important thing. And add to that I think having a sustainable life for the human race could be one of the great feature of a future city. A lot can be considered, but let's start with these things first perhaps.

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April 25, 2020, 01:22:22 PM
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This idea sounds awful. I don’t think that will happen. And if this happens, then only by the stupidity of people.
If the land is wholly owned by large corporations, then corporations can dictate their terms, they can impose what is beneficial to them. They can do the most terrible things with impunity, because it is completely their city.

If you are interested, then right now (for a very long time) the same thing happens only in a slightly different way. The world is now ruled by just a small group of large corporations and various foundations. They promote sinister ideas that harm people and keep 99% of people enslaved. Bad food, water with fluoride, senseless activity, poor ecology, constant millions of times over-emitted electromagnetic radiation in cities, etc.

A person and family should be in the first place. Otherwise, there will be slavery, which is now happening at the moment.

But I don’t think that everything is so bad. More and more people are waking up. Everything will change soon. I have no doubt whatsoever.
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April 26, 2020, 05:13:03 PM
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April 26, 2020, 11:40:47 PM
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What i assume regarding future cities is the full implementation of the smart cities concept and that will be achieved by the implementation of smart blockchain identity, AI and IOT usage in all sectors, the efficiency and automation will be brought by smart contracts of most advanced blockchain networks.
What you are talking is a totally decentralized city which seems far far away to me because governments will not be going anywhere.

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April 27, 2020, 02:08:18 AM
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I think that in the next 10 years we're going to see a new kind of city develop.  One where the land is fully-owned by a corporation and rented to residents.  Ownership will be a choice, of course, but most folks will rent because they're "just passing through."  Imagine a block of land, anywhere, free of government restrictions.  People could do as they please for once.  Doctors would not need licensure, leading to the availability of the world's cheapest and best medical care. 

It's a fairly extreme vision, but I think the time is soon for concepts like this one. 

The concept is not new - it was used ~150 years ago when the Cadbury Chocolate Factory moved to Bournville, England and is regarded as one of the finest model towns in the UK.  Workers and former workers live in, or own the cottages that surround the Cadbury's factory that continues to operate in that location.

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