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March 27, 2023, 07:50:42 AM
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Is there a reason why BitMaxz shouldn't be tagged along with Blitzboy? The reason I ask is I found Blitzboy is pretty clearly posting AI-generated text:
How come he went all these years without getting even a neutral tag saying he is Blitzboy's alt? The evidence presented by marloboroza wasn't convincing enough for anyone?


The larger question is should posting what is clearly AI-generated text be a tag-able offense?
Afaik, those who plagiarize don't usually get negative feedback so I am not sure that is the right course of action even for members that use chatbots. Its probably better to try get them banned intead, but its easier said than done as in some cases its  hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt that someone used chatbot.

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March 27, 2023, 08:18:01 AM
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How does this explorer work?
I don't think it's able to pull data of all addresses from an HD wallet.
It's pulling addresses from explorer that is connected in transactions and it can easily be misguided a transaction where the change address does not look like a change address but an actual payment address looks like a change address. I need to understand how it finds the wallet ID.

Anyway, that's not the topic to discuss. I am just saying, I am not going to relay on the explorer.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1584539.0 --> signed message (1Eg5cXPCqBnpYJCoTornGAKCGAzyzAvJgq) by Blitzboy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716351.0 --> signed message (1Fh2GwdSfSDpfB5PpYjscB9u2inCoTmumX) by Bitmaxz

These connection came from that above explorer so it's hard for me to conclude both are alt. There should have some other solid connections. It worth looking for. If I am not wrong BitMaxz was a regular in Chipmixer campaign so he does not seem to be a chatbot shitposter.

The larger question is should posting what is clearly AI-generated text be a tag-able offense?
Afaik, those who plagiarize don't usually get negative feedback so I am not sure that is the right course of action even for members that use chatbots. Its probably better to try get them banned intead, but its easier said than done as in some cases its  hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt that someone used chatbot.
I think the community is still unsure what to do against these chatbox spammers. If there are any voting initiated by anyone then I will definitely go with "Yes to tag them"

 

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March 27, 2023, 09:05:47 AM
Last edit: March 27, 2023, 09:26:23 AM by Rikafip
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How does this explorer work?
Here is detailed explanation how wallet explorer works and how it connects the addresses: https://www.walletexplorer.com/info


There should have some other solid connections. It worth looking for. If I am not wrong BitMaxz was a regular in Chipmixer campaign so he does not seem to be a chatbot shitposter.
Wallet explorer was not the only evidence as there's also use of the same address which in most cases is usually enough to prove the connection and as you can see, Blitzboy actually used the address first meaning we can exclude the scenario in which he copied BitMaxz address in the first place.

Name:  Blitzboy
Post count:  31 (including this post)
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Bitcoin address: 12iyKZkdZigqKMQ4BvBMNtUUMj1PcYJtmw
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https://ninjastic.space/post/14544178


Done signing up for his offer Heres my username: Arvinzx my btc address: 12iyKZkdZigqKMQ4BvBMNtUUMj1PcYJtmw
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March 27, 2023, 09:22:33 AM
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How does this explorer work?
I don't think it's able to pull data of all addresses from an HD wallet.
It's pulling addresses from explorer that is connected in transactions and it can easily be misguided a transaction where the change address does not look like a change address but an actual payment address looks like a change address. I need to understand how it finds the wallet ID.
It groups addresses together if those addresses have their Bitcoins get co-spent or act as inputs in one transaction. This simply means both addresses belong to the same wallet. If the address in an HD wallet has never received and co-spent any bitcoins in a single transaction. That address does not get grouped by the walletexplorer.

Anyway, that's not the topic to discuss. I am just saying, I am not going to relay on the explorer.
It's a pretty reliable tool i have used in the past to discover two huge signature cheating account farms
1. A Farm of High Ranking accounts abusing Sig. Campaigns - Ban Evasion.
2. A Large Farm of accounts cheating on Sig. Campaigns [HUGE UPDATE! 04/28/2020]

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March 27, 2023, 09:32:14 AM
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Name:  Blitzboy
Post count:  31 (including this post)
Rank:  Jr. member
Bitcoin address: 12iyKZkdZigqKMQ4BvBMNtUUMj1PcYJtmw
Thanks.
https://ninjastic.space/post/14544178


Done signing up for his offer Heres my username: Arvinzx my btc address: 12iyKZkdZigqKMQ4BvBMNtUUMj1PcYJtmw
I hope i will receive the rewards in few hours..
https://ninjastic.space/post/14650984
This is very convincing. Sorry I am out of merit.

Please correct me where I am wrong.
BitMaxz is ban evading.
BitMaxz is using chatbot to post form another alt account.

It's a pretty reliable tool i have used in the past to discover two huge signature cheating account farms
1. A Farm of High Ranking accounts abusing Sig. Campaigns - Ban Evasion.
2. A Large Farm of accounts cheating on Sig. Campaigns [HUGE UPDATE! 04/28/2020]
It's shit load of information for me to read all LOL
My eyes are fucked. Good job!


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March 27, 2023, 09:50:08 AM
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My hesitancy in tagging BitMaxz now lies in the fact that the Blitzboy account seems to have been transferred in Jan of this year as it woke and changed passwords after a 1.5 year hiatus. There's a good chance the account has actually changed hands at least a couple of times because looking thru BitMaxz's posts he seems to be far more knowledgeable than whoever owns Blitzboy now or the previous owner, as well.

If the account sale happened several years ago, which appears to be the case, I would not tag BitMaxz now as he seems to be a valuable contributor to the forum. I'm waiting to find out if Blitzboy should be banned or red tagged for AI posting. Not sure what the consensus is on that yet.

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March 27, 2023, 04:06:13 PM
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I just need your help to investigate this account Blitzboy and tag with negative trust because my account was affected by his mess trying to Join on the same campaign([ur=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216176.msg53590890#msg53590890l]LuckyBit[/url])

To me i believe it's inappropriate to request someone to tag an account on just a normal incident that could happen to anyone, though am not in support of those abusing the whole thing but the DT members have their reputation they are building also and not just in tagging accounts they aren't sure of the major offense or wrong done by the user else this itself will be an abuse on the use of the trust system.
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March 27, 2023, 11:18:38 PM
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My hesitancy in tagging BitMaxz now lies in the fact that the Blitzboy account seems to have been transferred in Jan of this year as it woke and changed passwords after a 1.5 year hiatus. There's a good chance the account has actually changed hands at least a couple of times because looking thru BitMaxz's posts he seems to be far more knowledgeable than whoever owns Blitzboy now or the previous owner, as well.

If the account sale happened several years ago, which appears to be the case, I would not tag BitMaxz now as he seems to be a valuable contributor to the forum. I'm waiting to find out if Blitzboy should be banned or red tagged for AI posting. Not sure what the consensus is on that yet.
I have had the same thoughts. I believe the Blitzboy account changed hands a while back, given how BitMaxz has been posting and how knowledgeable he is. I don't think he could just resort to copying and pasting from chatGPT a few years later.

Problem is, he isn't helping us to understand what happened. He's just quiet on the whole issue.

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My hesitancy in tagging BitMaxz now lies in the fact that the Blitzboy account seems to have been transferred in Jan of this year as it woke and changed passwords after a 1.5 year hiatus. There's a good chance the account has actually changed hands at least a couple of times because looking thru BitMaxz's posts he seems to be far more knowledgeable than whoever owns Blitzboy now or the previous owner, as well.
Good point, there is indeed a clear difference in posting between those two accounts.


I'm waiting to find out if Blitzboy should be banned or red tagged for AI posting. Not sure what the consensus is on that yet.
As I showed you in that other topic, several accounts already got banned for use of ChatGPT. The only difference is that Blitzboy is a high ranking account and banned ones were newbies and we know for some time that admins are less inclined to ban higher ranking accounts for one or two cases of plagiarism. Imho its a better approach than insta banning everyone who copied even a sentence (like they did in the past) as forum lost some good members that way, but there should be some punishment (e.g signature ban).

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March 28, 2023, 06:17:16 AM
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It's nice to see you're thinking about investing in XRP. I cannot give personal financial advice as an AI language model, but I can provide some basic facts and observations.

When it comes to XRP and the ongoing legal battle between Ripple and the SEC, it's critical to stay up to date on the newest developments. If XRP prevails in the court, its value may rise dramatically in the immediate term. However, I believe it is important to proceed with care and not get too caught up in the hoopla. The cryptocurrency market is inherently unpredictable, and the price may fall just as rapidly as it can climb.
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March 28, 2023, 10:21:53 AM
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Problem is, he isn't helping us to understand what happened. He's just quiet on the whole issue.
I guess no one sent him a PM yet, people can miss a lot of things. I sent him a PM.

If the account sale happened several years ago, which appears to be the case, I would not tag BitMaxz now as he seems to be a valuable contributor to the forum. I'm waiting to find out if Blitzboy should be banned or red tagged for AI posting. Not sure what the consensus is on that yet.
It counts and changes the dimension. There are not many people as knowledgeable as him so he is a good asset for the community. If the account changed a long time ago and it's under control of the current owner for long time, additionally the feedback earned are under the current owners possession then I do not think it alerts a tag. In fact it's a good thing that through the account we have now a good forum member.


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Problem is, he isn't helping us to understand what happened. He's just quiet on the whole issue.
I guess no one sent him a PM yet, people can miss a lot of things. I sent him a PM.

He doesn't need to respond, its a moot point as we both already acknowledged he's a good forum member. I mainly just bumped this thread because of Blitzboy's AI-generated posts but after doing some additional research it became apparent the account changed hands several years ago.

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March 31, 2023, 11:55:58 AM
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I am making my conclusion in the reputation matter.

Last few days I exchanged several PMs with BitMaxz. Here are my takes:
BitMaxz is not the original owner of the account. It's changed hand and before the changed hand it was (as may be from current BitMaxz owner) relate to Blitzboy or anyone else. But the current owner confess that he does not know any of them. He sounds gentle and informative, his voice sounds reliable so I will count his words. Considering the quality posting from the current BitMaxz account owner, from my best believe the forum needs more members like him. No matter what motivation they have, they are eventually helping the community and that's very important.

I will not tag or even leave a neutral feedback for BitMaxz account. The account is so familiar that I believe it does nor require such warning. If anything happen in the future then spotting it is very easy.

BitMaxz does not want to comment in this matter on this thread which is why we never seen him to comment here. Everyone has their freedom and I will give that to him.

For me the case is close and I have good wishes for BitMaxz.

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After reading this thread I remembered I sent Blitzboy a PM some months ago asking for an explanation since he did not post in this thread. I cannot recall why I did not follow it up, maybe it was because of things happening outside this forum in real life.

Back then, I was the on the verge of tagging the Blitzboy account if not for anything else then for at least ban evasion just as yahoo62278 did but now I will go through some of the threads/posts to re-familiarise myself before I come to a decision.

I will also send him a PM asking him to post here to clarify what happened.

He doesn't need to respond, its a moot point as we both already acknowledged he's a good forum member. I mainly just bumped this thread because of Blitzboy's AI-generated posts but after doing some additional research it became apparent the account changed hands several years ago.

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