Are table borders a thing and if not can they be?

[jackg]

I'm looking at my lightning thread's tables and it looks like it'll be hard to work out the transaction definitions for the most recent one, is there a way borders can be implemented or are they already implementd and just not on the top display?

Just maybe as

Code:

[border_table] or [table][border][tr]...

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[suchmoon]

The short answer is no. If you want a long answer - do you have an example of what you want to display?

Edit - assuming it's this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217699.msg53633870#msg53633870

You could just put the stuff into a spreadsheet (Excel, Google Sheets, whatever), format it how you want it, take a screenshot, and post it as an image.

There are some things you can do in bbcode with background colors and fixed-width fonts but it's a bit of a pain to maintain:

   Alice’s input 1 btc in         →       Alice’s output 1BTC back to her address       
   Bob’s input 0.75 btc in        →       Bob’s output 0.75BTC sent back to his address 

[UserU]

I reckon this is a site-wide implementation and the forum code hasn't been updated yet to accomodate it.

[jackg]

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Thanks, I've never come across pre before...

This really feels like something taht could be implemented much more easily, I don't like using photos either as if people like using zoom, a larger font size or reading mode (or if they're using a CLI browser) then the image would be unviewable and may get in the way.

and yeah @User, bbcode is meant to be a bit like html the way that assembly language is to machine code/binary so it would be easy to add - i guess it just hasn't been put in the translator yet either by theymos or smf.

[tranthidung]

Could you take a look at it and help me, if you have time, please.
I got trouble with the table format, width and tried to apply what you did with pre-block but it seems my table is badly formated.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207066.msg53634910#msg53634910

[jackg]

I made everything glow, such is the wizzard though:
(this deosn't work it might help though if anyone wants to make it work)

AuthorsLinkDescriptionsANN threadsStatus

Vod and BPIP teamLinkBPIP (the first site provides forum data)initial one; current oneUpgrading
ForumLinkStatistics centern/aPartially disabled

https://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_pre.asp

[Jawhead999]

@tranthidung
Does its look better? I create it by myself and using the pre tag. So, its look a bit smaller than the basic font.
But for mix the glow and table its bit hard, i tried many time but it still didn't work. Its only work glowing for font only, not fit the table
Example :

| Authors |

| Vod and BPIP team  |

Edit :
I think to make glow tag to fit the fixed width is should not using table, and have a lot of time to fixing manually by typing space button

  | Authors            |   
  | Vod and BPIP team  |    

| Authors	| Link	| Descriptions	| ANN threads	| Status	|
| ---------------------	| --------	| ------------------------------------------------	| ------------------------------	| ------------------------	|
| Vod and BPIP team	| Link	| BPIP (the first site provides forum data)	| initial one; current one	| Upgrading	|
| Forum	| Link	| Statistics center	| n/a	| Partially disabled	|

Code:

[center][table]

[tr]
[td] [pre] | [b]Authors[/b][/td]
[td] [pre] | [b]Link[/b][/td]
[td] [pre] | [b]Descriptions[/b][/td]
[td] [pre] | [b]ANN threads[/b][/td]
[td] [pre] | [b]Status[/b][/td]
[td] [pre] | [/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td][pre] | --------------------- [/td]
[td][pre] | -------- [/td]
[td][pre] | ------------------------------------------------ [/td]
[td][pre] | ------------------------------ [/td]
[td][pre] | ------------------------[/td]
[td][pre] | [/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td][pre] | Vod and BPIP team [/td] 
[td][pre] | [url=https://bpip.org/]Link[/url] [/td]
[td][pre] | BPIP (the first site provides forum data) [/td]
[td][pre] | [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4746201.0]initial one[/url]; [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213618.0]current one[/url][/td]
[td][pre] | Upgrading[/td]
[td][pre] | [/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td][pre] | Forum[/td]
[td][pre] | [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats]Link[/url][/td]
[td][pre] | Statistics center[/td]
[td][pre] | n/a[/td]
[td][pre] | Partially disabled[/td]
[td][pre] | [/td]
[/tr]

[/table]
[/center]

[tranthidung]

| Authors	| Link	| Descriptions	| ANN threads	| Status	|
| Forum	| Link	| Statistics center	| n/a	| Partially disabled	|
| Vod and BPIP team	| Link	| BPIP (the first site provides forum data)	| initial one; current one	| Upgrading	|

This part is unnecessary, but I don't know why there are significant space between two lines.

At least, the format does not cause the problem here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207066.msg53511397#msg53511397
Nevertheless, the bbcode above still need to be adjusted.

[LoyceV]

I use a combination of horizontal lines ([ hr]) and vertical lines (|). The latter must fill each cell in an entire column:

Sun May 12 12:00:02 UTC 2019 (forum time)

|	Altcoin	|	Price	|	Value	|
|	0.98450454 GBYTE	|	0.00706236 BTC	|	0.00695292 BTC	|
|	58.50783037 PIVX	|	0.00008319 BTC	|	0.00486726 BTC	|
|	11465.51724138 SC	|	0.00000040 BTC	|	0.00458620 BTC	|
|	212.23404255 XRP	|	0.00004366 BTC	|	0.00926613 BTC	|
|	56.46348000 NANO	|	0.00022480 BTC	|	0.01269299 BTC	|
|	3.63636000 NEO	|	0.00131000 BTC	|	0.00476363 BTC	|
|	79.73019000 WAN	|	0.00004730 BTC	|	0.00377123 BTC	|
|	83.63362106 NMC	|	0.00006534 BTC	|	0.00546462 BTC	|
|	2446.07843137 DGB	|	0.00000152 BTC	|	0.00371803 BTC	|
|	0.67222271 XMR	|	0.01062001 BTC	|	0.00713901 BTC	|
|	Total	|		|	0.06322202 BTC	|

But it's not very user friendly to edit. I got the idea from Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns.

I have a bigger example too, but I used a script to create that one.

[tranthidung]

Thanks Loyce.

The format here (suggested by SFR10) looks more user-friendly, but it has only one problems with the width of first column. SFR10 did not know why, because for the second column, it does not show that issue.

His solution:

Found a quick solution ^{[for now]}:

• Use the following code in-between ^{[instead of using spaces]} each word...

Code:

[color=transparent].[/color]

The format of suchmoon is too complicated to edit, as he emphasized, I am not going to that one. For your format, if I can not find solution for SFR10's format, I am going to use yours. 

[LoyceV]

but it has only one problems with the width of first column.

It looks like a bug in SMF: it works fine if you preview the post, but gets messed up when you actually post it. I've noticed it before, and it's annoying to deal with.

[hosseinimr93]

The format here (suggested by SFR10) looks more user-friendly, but it has only one problems with the width of first column. SFR10 did not know why, because for the second column, it does not show that issue.

I use underline (___) instead of [ hr].

For example that code should be like this

Code:

[tr]
[td]__________________[/td]
[td]_____[/td]
[td]_________________________________[/td]
[td]______________________[/td]
[td]______________[/td]
[/tr]

The result will be as follows

Authors	Link	Descriptions	ANN threads	Status
__________________	_____	_________________________________	______________________	______________
Vod and BPIP team	Link	BPIP (the first site provides forum data)	initial one; current one	Upgrading
Forum	Link	Statistics center	n/a	Partially disabled

[suchmoon]

but it has only one problems with the width of first column.

It looks like a bug in SMF: it works fine if you preview the post, but gets messed up when you actually post it. I've noticed it before, and it's annoying to deal with.

It's a bug in CSS (SMF or forum's customization, not sure):

https://bitcointalk.org/Themes/custom1/style.css

Code:

/* prevent gap between post icon and subject */
div#bodyarea table.bordercolor td td td.td_headerandpost td:first-child
{
	 width: 26px;
}

If the intent was as stated in the comment then the icon cell should have been given a CSS class instead of using a complicated and obviously broken selector.

[tranthidung]

I use underline (___) instead of [ hr]

I often use the underline too but the problem is with SMF-bug and the format given by SFR10 (he said we don't have to manually adjust width of column by typing ____. Anyway, thank you.

[TryNinja]

Would people be interested in an online tool that makes tables (for BitcoinTalk) in a visual and more user-friendly way?

[TheBeardedBaby]

Would people be interested in an online tool that makes tables (for BitcoinTalk) in a visual and more user-friendly way?

There was something similar before - WYSIWYG BBcode editor, which i used a lot but the project was discontinued. Anything that will make my life easier is welcome

[TryNinja]

There was something similar before - WYSIWYG BBcode editor, which i used a lot but the project was discontinued. Anything that will make my life easier is welcome

I remember this, but they weren’t specially focused on Bitcointalk. I can try doing something when I come back from travel in ~2 weeks.

[pugman]

Would people be interested in an online tool that makes tables (for BitcoinTalk) in a visual and more user-friendly way?

Like a table generator, say something like this: https://www.teamopolis.com/tools/bbcode-table-generator.aspx? Or the design aspect of how the table looks like, aesthetically,using some sort of a script perhaps?

[Mitchell]

But it's not very user friendly to edit. I got the idea from Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns.

I've used it in my group buys as well and it does become a hassle to deal with if the table gets too big.

[Timelord2067]

You could create a three by three table and the outside cells are black with a full stop and the center cell holds the data.

.	ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ	.
.	Your data goes here	.
.	ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ	.

Code:

[table][tr][td][glow=black,1].[/glow][/td][td][glow=black,1]ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[/glow][/td][td][glow=black,1].[/glow][/td][/tr]

[tr][td][glow=black,1].[/glow][/td][td][center]Your data goes here[/center][/td][td][glow=black,1].[/glow][/td][/tr]

[tr][td][glow=black,1].[/glow][/td][td][glow=black,1]ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[/glow][/td][td][glow=black,1].[/glow][/td][/tr]

[/table]

Regards,

*edit* Not sure why the left column has gone haywire...