ODSY88 conned me of over 1600 EUROS, cites Multiple profiles as the reason

[gr8gambler]

I created a new account after reading all the good reviews specially by Little Kona. They just asked for my name and my phone number to get started. It was weird that they didnt ask for any KYC docs upfront. I deposited 3282.23 EUROS to a btc address they provided on the chat, which were deposited in a newly created OrbitX account. I bet on a tennis match which got suspended due to rain. I tried to cut my losses and to my surprise I see my account was suspended. Asking the chat, they said their compliance team is investigating the account. I had no clue what's going on. I would ping them back every 12 hours to see if there is an update, they kept on delaying the same. I was conveyed over the chat that no matter what, the result of the tennis match I bet on, will stand and I will get the winnings or losses.

Luckily I won the bet and my total went upto 4878.85 EUROS which I still can't withdraw or bet with.

After almost 36 hours I get this email:

"Hello Sir,

Good day.



We have received the result of investigation from our compliance team.

As per our General Terms and Conditions (that you agreed on upon registration) regarding single account policy for each customer,

you are only allowed to have one (1) account for Sports Odyssey including the products-Pinnacle Sports, Orbit X, BetISN and Winfair.

Therefore, any winnings brought in to your Orbit X account shall be forfeited however,

your total deposit amount of EUR 3282.23 will be sent back to your Bitcoin account.

For your reference, kindly read and understand our bounding terms regarding this matter:

11. You are only allowed to use (1) ONE Profile under our services. IF it is found that you have multiple profiles registered with us.

Odsy88ss reserves the right to suspend or to immediate close your profile on its sole discretion and forfeit the available funds across all betting accounts under the related profiles.

Please manage to be guided by our Terms and Conditions accordingly for your future betting transactions with us.

We understand that this may be infuriating on your part, nevertheless, we shall abide and be bound by our terms for fairness and impartiality.

We seek for your deepest understanding regarding this occurrence.

Thank you very much."

I rushed to chat with the representative to find out what's going on, they kept on repeating the same thing. "You created multiple profiles, which is against our terms". I kept on telling them I dont have any other profile. I asked if they had another client with the same name? They said their SYSTEM caught me. WHAT THE penetrate! What system? System to con people? I asked them to return my winnings since that was my risk. They kept on denying that request and kept on repeating the same thing over and over. I told them I can provide KYC docs which they never asked for. I can do skype face to face call to let them know I am a real person. I DONT HAVE ANY CLUE what the penetrate happened. Except that I was using a free VPN which might have given the same IP to more than 1 person playing.

They can't just keep my winnings. I asked them "if I had lost that bet, would you have returned the same amount that I deposited?"

NO RESPONSE.

I asked them, are the other duplicate accounts are in my name

NO RESPONSE

I asked them, are the other accounts winning? If yes, are you confiscating their winnings? If no, are you keeping their losses?

NO RESPONSE

They just kept on repeating the same thing, "our system caught you having multiple profiles." what the penetrate. I am so irritated right now. For no fault of mine, how can they just keep my winnings?

They did return my deposit. Is there a way I can raise this ANYWHERE to get my winnings back?

I feel disgusted just thinking about what just happened to me.

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[SyGambler]

did you take any bonus with them mate ? if there is no bonus involved then they have zero rights for not paying you
I tagged them months ago after they started KYCing people randomly even when they started here their only one advantage was the no KYC thing ( which made a lot of people use them instead of using Asianconnect)
Optional in SBR should be able to help you with this matter and I have high hopes that you will get your profits

funny thing no KYC for multiaccounters but they do KYC randomly 

[gr8gambler]

I did not take any bonus. Just signed up, placed a bet on a match and done! This makes me sick thinking of what happened to me. I never thought trusting an anonymous broker will be so painful.

[JollyGood]

I did not take any bonus. Just signed up, placed a bet on a match and done! This makes me sick thinking of what happened to me. I never thought trusting an anonymous broker will be so painful.

Sorry to read about this. When I see words such as "investigations" and "compliance team" it rings alarm bells because those are typical excuses used when scammers scam....

In response to the question about them returning your bet if you had lost, they declined to answer but it is obvious they would not have given it back to you. They would gladly have kept your money stayed silent on any breach/alleged breach of contract and allowed you to keep betting and keep losing that is until you won - that is when they would mention "investigation" and stop you from taking your winnings.

I am sorry to see you lose a lot of money but at least they said they would return your original Bitcoin deposit back to you. I hope something like this does not happen to you again or to any other users for that matter.

[MURONDI]

in my opinion the problem is you are using VPN, so the system detects the use of the same IP, there are several sites that provide very strict rules, even the same IP can be a big problem, You have deposited a large amount but why do you play with VPN, obviously it is very dangerous for your account, if the use of multiple accounts is very detrimental to the site of course the IP problem rules will be very strict.

[ryzaadit]

funny thing no KYC for multiaccounters but they do KYC randomly 

Not randomly.

They aim a user who has a huge fund/winning a big bet.

It's just too delay the user withdraws their fund from the platform, because of that they will try to makes some times asking the user to do a KYC.

The reason always be same :

• Multiple Account
• Investigation about fraud money.
• Etc.

But mostly the reason always about "Multiple Account" & "Avoiding fraud money".

[gr8gambler]

in my opinion the problem is you are using VPN, so the system detects the use of the same IP, there are several sites that provide very strict rules, even the same IP can be a big problem, You have deposited a large amount but why do you play with VPN, obviously it is very dangerous for your account, if the use of multiple accounts is very detrimental to the site of course the IP problem rules will be very strict.

All brokers suggest using VPNs and I am sure almost nobody pays for a VPN. I am in the USA and cant open most of the betting websites from here without using VPN, and same IP should be a known problem for the brokerage companies. I am sure there is something fishy going on, as searching the web I see a lot of negative posts about people's funds magically disappearing from their accounts with odsy88. Although in most of these cases, the money was finally returned to the user. I really hope somebody helps me here with this as well.

[SyGambler]

in my opinion the problem is you are using VPN, so the system detects the use of the same IP, there are several sites that provide very strict rules, even the same IP can be a big problem, You have deposited a large amount but why do you play with VPN, obviously it is very dangerous for your account, if the use of multiple accounts is very detrimental to the site of course the IP problem rules will be very strict.

VPN isn't the reason when it comes to brokers , as gr8 said many brokers actually suggest their users to use vpn so they can avoid the country restrictions
also normally when a site suspects multiaccounting the first thing they usually do is the KYC unless the site doesn't really do KYC which isn't the case with odsy , they have been kycing some people who won some money with them

also multi accounting isn't a good excuse for brokers unless there is bonus involved with these accounts , cause in theory they are offering exchanges and bookies that tolerate professional betting
I don't know how they exactly operate honestly cause there have been many cases with oribt exchange where they raise the commissions for winners , so they might have that as an excuse but still doesn't make sense when you don't do KYC or mention the accounts suspected with some kind of proofs 

[gr8gambler]

in my opinion the problem is you are using VPN, so the system detects the use of the same IP, there are several sites that provide very strict rules, even the same IP can be a big problem, You have deposited a large amount but why do you play with VPN, obviously it is very dangerous for your account, if the use of multiple accounts is very detrimental to the site of course the IP problem rules will be very strict.

VPN isn't the reason when it comes to brokers , as gr8 said many brokers actually suggest their users to use vpn so they can avoid the country restrictions
also normally when a site suspects multiaccounting the first thing they usually do is the KYC unless the site doesn't really do KYC which isn't the case with odsy , they have been kycing some people who won some money with them

also multi accounting isn't a good excuse for brokers unless there is bonus involved with these accounts , cause in theory they are offering exchanges and bookies that tolerate professional betting
I don't know how they exactly operate honestly cause there have been many cases with oribt exchange where they raise the commissions for winners , so they might have that as an excuse but still doesn't make sense when you don't do KYC or mention the accounts suspected with some kind of proofs 

Exactly my feelings Sy, I am a recreational bettor and have actually lost tons of money playing around. I dont really care about bonuses since they come with a lot of turnover requirements. I like to withdraw my winnings whenever I want to without getting restricted coz of Wagering requirements.

Funny thing is that they didnt even ask me any docs to verify me. They just have my name and phone number. I have no clue if not for same IP, how their 'system' caught me doing multi-accounting. Fuck, multiple accounts - If you take a bet, you gotta payout the winnings. World knows this fact. But this new brokerage doesnt.

They promised me that the result of the tennis match will stand no matter what, and now they are denying my winnings, how unfair!

At least care to reply Odsy88, this is your official thread.