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January 23, 2020, 12:49:17 PM
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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).
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January 23, 2020, 02:43:15 PM
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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).
They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.
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January 23, 2020, 02:50:04 PM
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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).
They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.
indeed both accept the risk it seems. but the bounty manager gets paid in the beginning but their reputation gets worse and I don't think it's comparable to those who have built a very good reputation. and for bounty hunters, we have to accept it if we have made sure to join a campaign.

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January 23, 2020, 02:58:25 PM
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They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

But i think most of bounty managers (especially who already got big names in bounty) won't receive salary with the project's token instead of with fixed coins like USDT or Bitcoins because they won't their effort managing the bounty will have zero result because the price of the tokens could be not valuable when enters the market
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January 23, 2020, 03:02:40 PM
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They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

But i think most of bounty managers (especially who already got big names in bounty) won't receive salary with the project's token instead of with fixed coins like USDT or Bitcoins because they won't their effort managing the bounty will have zero result because the price of the tokens could be not valuable when enters the market

It depends, because I have a friend who becomes bounty manager, during the peak season or good market, they are paid in USDT, but, after the bull run, most of the time they are paid in less USDT and the rest in tokens, so it really depends on what has been agreed before doing campaign.

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January 23, 2020, 03:44:18 PM
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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).
They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.
indeed both accept the risk it seems. but the bounty manager gets paid in the beginning but their reputation gets worse and I don't think it's comparable to those who have built a very good reputation. and for bounty hunters, we have to accept it if we have made sure to join a campaign.
For both bounty managers and hunters, decent research is enough to prevent the scam teams to hire them. Without considering the alternative projects, joining the bounty campaigns as a manager will have such consequences. Obviously, the scammers don't care about the middleman and they only look for their gain in all aspects of IEO-ICO.

Although, bounty managers should not be blame in having a scam project, but still they have to protect their dignity and their reputation and of course their time, that's why they should find a project that they can already rely on, that they can be proud of, so that whether it is failed or success at least it is legit unlike being success but turned out to be scam.
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January 23, 2020, 03:53:20 PM
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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).
They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.

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January 23, 2020, 04:00:47 PM
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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).
They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.
A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

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January 23, 2020, 04:03:57 PM
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A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.
even when the bounty hunter already gets their payment token but the project fails and the token is not registered in the exchange, the bounty manager becomes one of the first people to be even blamed by the bounty hunter.
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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).
They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.
A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

I pity them actually, especially that most of the time they have 5k+ participants in social media, imagine how much they are spending their time just to check our output, then we will blame them for something that we should blame too, for sure they did their job to check the project if feasible or not, but it's not their fault if it is failed, so let's not blame them.
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January 23, 2020, 04:34:15 PM
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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).
They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.
A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

I pity them actually, especially that most of the time they have 5k+ participants in social media, imagine how much they are spending their time just to check our output, then we will blame them for something that we should blame too, for sure they did their job to check the project if feasible or not, but it's not their fault if it is failed, so let's not blame them.

Asking for 50% fiat payment and 50% of their tokens is a good idea. But unfortunately every project cannot do that, most projects remain with their token allocation for the bounty program. And here I do not want to blame, but want something even better for BM and other participants. A good thing to do one BM is to ask for tokens in advance and use escrow as collateral.

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January 23, 2020, 04:49:04 PM
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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).
They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.
A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

I pity them actually, especially that most of the time they have 5k+ participants in social media, imagine how much they are spending their time just to check our output, then we will blame them for something that we should blame too, for sure they did their job to check the project if feasible or not, but it's not their fault if it is failed, so let's not blame them.

Asking for 50% fiat payment and 50% of their tokens is a good idea. But unfortunately every project cannot do that, most projects remain with their token allocation for the bounty program. And here I do not want to blame, but want something even better for BM and other participants. A good thing to do one BM is to ask for tokens in advance and use escrow as collateral.
I don't think having 50/50 is a good idea since bounty hunters are just gonna dump their tokens when it hits the exchange, better to have that in fiat or coin with a huge volume, usually the development doesn't go really well with ICO right now because it can be a scam in the long run. I think getting paid every week is the best because it removes the escrow so less cost for the devs.
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January 23, 2020, 05:45:01 PM
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I never blame managers. If they rubbish managers I will complain though. There many useless managers. So many times I see bounty stakes being denied for stupid reasons like if you forgot to register they do not give you weeks worth of stakes. This is plain laziness. A genuine manager is worth following. Hopefully one day I find a manager I like. Managers give themselves a bad name but blaming a manager for the fail of a project is stupid.
You can only blame the manager for poor bounty management. Poor management can contribute to a failing project but you cannot fully blame a manager. The drop of the price in a coin does not make it a scam unless the devs themselves dumped.
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January 23, 2020, 05:49:20 PM
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I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).
They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.
I also heard that some managers like to get paid in the tokens of the project seeing the hype of the tokens in the end of 2017 but nowadays they are also running on the same condition like the hunters. In that case they have to care that to assure the identity and security of the payment of the bounty. They have to create a separate rule in which they have to secure some funds from the projects to secure the work of the bounty hunters.
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January 23, 2020, 05:58:40 PM
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In the majority of cases, bounty manager has nothing to do with a failed bounty or project exiting scam. But at the end, manager is running a bounty campaign and he is responsible at least to check everything before publishing a bounty.


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January 23, 2020, 07:14:49 PM
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Bounty hunters think that bounty manager will be a part of the project team but in most of the cases it'll not be true as bounty manager will be hired just to do a job and get paid, he won't be having the power to do any decisions rather just do as the team says. It's really hard to do these days and even the icos are not even getting any investments.
Actually bounty hunters unable to discuss with core team for asking all of those question regarding which project. So that hunters thinking bounty manager capable to response their desired question. But sometimes bounty manager will play role as a part of project team. I think bounty manager can't blamed for the reward because they just involved for maintain the bounty, distribution depend on the project team.                     

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January 23, 2020, 08:05:01 PM
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We are bounty hunters, we work hard day after day. If any project scammed it's really painful for us. Then hunters blame bounty managers. But it's not bounty manager fault. Some Bounty manager are lazy. They don't count hunters stacks properly. I really hate them. And i always respect all good manager who complete his work properly.   
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January 23, 2020, 09:33:44 PM
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In the end it is thousands of bounty hunters that get beaten if a project or team fails to raise funds or simply scams and not pay the reward tokens, the bounty hunters are at real loss and receiving end because they have wasted both their months of work and time and not to forget their reputation that gets impacted negatively even if they have peomoted a project that suddenly scams or fails.

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January 23, 2020, 11:47:31 PM
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this is the importance of being an educated bounty hunter.  so it's not easy to get caught up with project scams, be more critical in analyzing projects, and ready to accept all the risks associated with bounty campaigns.  being a bounty hunter must be prepared to accept the risk, ready not to be paid.  Bounty managers are only intermediaries, not all losses that bounty hunters receive are entirely the mistakes of bounty managers, so understand that BM also "works".  let's be wiser and more educated

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January 23, 2020, 11:58:49 PM
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We are bounty hunters, we work hard day after day. If any project scammed it's really painful for us. Then hunters blame bounty managers. But it's not bounty manager fault. Some Bounty manager are lazy. They don't count hunters stacks properly. I really hate them. And i always respect all good manager who complete his work properly.   
Bounty hunters are just like bounty managers who only work hard to get paid. But it cannot be denied that once a bounty manager cannot fulfill his promise and does not pay the bounty hunters well, he will judge immediately in a negative way. Bounty hunters should also be considerate because both bounty hunters and bounty manager work hard for the success of the project.

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