Pain of a bounty manager.

[Wysi]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

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[Roidz]

Bounty manager is an extension of the team to manage their bounty project, and of course we as bounty participants also cannot 100% blame the bounty manager, if indeed the project fails and is fraudulent, because to my knowledge the managers are also paid when the project is finished unless the manager who handles bounty projects with BTC fees usually there will be someone who acts as an escrow so that payments for bounty participants will be guaranteed, but if the project pays with coin ico of course the manager will get paid after the project is complete and all spreadsheet data has been sent to the project team, but if the project is fraudulent, of course the manager will usually not get paid the same as the bounty participants.

[Wysi]

Bounty manager is an extension of the team to manage their bounty project, and of course we as bounty participants also cannot 100% blame the bounty manager, if indeed the project fails and is fraudulent, because to my knowledge the managers are also paid when the project is finished unless the manager who handles bounty projects with BTC fees usually there will be someone who acts as an escrow so that payments for bounty participants will be guaranteed, but if the project pays with coin ico of course the manager will get paid after the project is complete and all spreadsheet data has been sent to the project team, but if the project is fraudulent, of course the manager will usually not get paid the same as the bounty participants.

Yes indeed, that the worst part wherein bounty manager filters the data by keeping the cheaters and spammers at bay by individually checking the details but don't hear from the project owners after submitting all the details and Athero bounty was an example of greedy management and short-sighted fraudulent activity done by the management and bounty manager and hunters were at receiving end.

[tungaqhd]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

It is sad that many bounty hunters using fake social accounts with fake friends, followers, likes and shares. However they alway complain about their reward when the project failed.

[samuraijin]

I am still confused about how the bounty manager got the job for the project and why they did not select it either, that they were real and paying projects, actually we don't blame anyone because we should all correct ourselves, I also don't defend bounty hunters because I also a bounty hunter but I feel disappointed too sometimes when they like to shout in the telegram group about distribution, I also want the bounty to be better in the future and where the bounty manager does not easily accept service work from the scammer project, I wait for everyone to work together to overcome things this is between bounty hunters and bounty managers dealing with scammer projects instead of accusing each other

[NathanJB]

The difficulty of the bounty manager is a little higher compared to that of a bounty participant. The manager does not have a required number of posts daily, or number of tweets, or an article, or a video, and so on unless he is also a participant. His task is to make sure the participants are meeting the requirements. But that is more difficult because that means hundreds of them. But this is a case to case basis, there are so many managers who cannot even update the spreadsheet on time.

[Lagduf]

Bounty manager is an extension of the team to manage their bounty project, and of course we as bounty participants also cannot 100% blame the bounty manager, if indeed the project fails and is fraudulent, because to my knowledge the managers are also paid when the project is finished unless the manager who handles bounty projects with BTC fees usually there will be someone who acts as an escrow so that payments for bounty participants will be guaranteed, but if the project pays with coin ico of course the manager will get paid after the project is complete and all spreadsheet data has been sent to the project team, but if the project is fraudulent, of course the manager will usually not get paid the same as the bounty participants.

How do you know if the manager was getting paid before managing the campaign? as far as I know that bitcoin campaign is really different from the altcoin campaign. In bitcoin campaign, there was a lot of managers who are putting escrow as the first requirement before he starts his job but in altcoin campaign, the manager will be getting paid after the end of the bounty campaign. Remember so many altcoin campaigns were using their free tokens to pay the hunters and manager. Not all of the team from altcoin can be trusted as they were not even sending the token to the escrow but they are all of the control over the tokens and this make altcoin bounty campaign just like a bit bet for the participants and manager.

[BitDane]

That is why there is a bounty manager, why are you whining about your work OP?  Bounty manager's task is to oversee the bounty campaign.  It is your task to check for cheaters, scammers and filter participants.  And calculate their payments and pass it to the management team.  If you are not willing to do the task assigned to you then better not to manage any campaign.  

Those who register thousands of accounts are not bounty hunters, they are cheaters that disguised to be a bounty hunter.  And it is your task to spot them so there is no reason for you to whine about it.  Besides if you properly contract a deal, you have been paid even before the job started unlike those bounty hunters that waits a very long time before being paid.

Bounty manager is an extension of the team to manage their bounty project, and of course we as bounty participants also cannot 100% blame the bounty manager, if indeed the project fails and is fraudulent, because to my knowledge the managers are also paid when the project is finished unless the manager who handles bounty projects with BTC fees usually there will be someone who acts as an escrow so that payments for bounty participants will be guaranteed, but if the project pays with coin ico of course the manager will get paid after the project is complete and all spreadsheet data has been sent to the project team, but if the project is fraudulent, of course the manager will usually not get paid the same as the bounty participants.

How do you know if the manager was getting paid before managing the campaign? as far as I know that bitcoin campaign is really different from the altcoin campaign. In bitcoin campaign, there was a lot of managers who are putting escrow as the first requirement before he starts his job but in altcoin campaign, the manager will be getting paid after the end of the bounty campaign. Remember so many altcoin campaigns were using their free tokens to pay the hunters and manager. Not all of the team from altcoin can be trusted as they were not even sending the token to the escrow but they are all of the control over the tokens and this make altcoin bounty campaign just like a bit bet for the participants and manager.

I believe they have deals before the manager accept the job.  Part of it that a bounty manager demand is an upfront of 20% to 50% of payment, typical of any deals unless the bounty manager don't know what he is doing then he will be working without any initial payment.

The difficulty of the bounty manager is a little higher compared to that of a bounty participant. The manager does not have a required number of posts daily, or number of tweets, or an article, or a video, and so on unless he is also a participant. His task is to make sure the participants are meeting the requirements. But that is more difficult because that means hundreds of them. But this is a case to case basis, there are so many managers who cannot even update the spreadsheet on time.

That is why bounty managers are paid several times bigger than any bounty participants.

[HabiebRiziq]

The difficulty of the bounty manager is a little higher compared to that of a bounty participant. The manager does not have a required number of posts daily, or number of tweets, or an article, or a video, and so on unless he is also a participant. His task is to make sure the participants are meeting the requirements. But that is more difficult because that means hundreds of them. But this is a case to case basis, there are so many managers who cannot even update the spreadsheet on time.

Sometimes the bounty participants simply say that what the bounty manager does is easy and many say that as a bounty manager they can choose which projects are good or not. We cannot blame everything on the bounty manager when the project we follow becomes a scam because sometimes the bounty manager also doesn't know about it and they only supervise the bounty participants and also always update the spreadsheet and report the results of all the work to the team behind the project. .

[NathanJB]

The difficulty of the bounty manager is a little higher compared to that of a bounty participant. The manager does not have a required number of posts daily, or number of tweets, or an article, or a video, and so on unless he is also a participant. His task is to make sure the participants are meeting the requirements. But that is more difficult because that means hundreds of them. But this is a case to case basis, there are so many managers who cannot even update the spreadsheet on time.

Sometimes the bounty participants simply say that what the bounty manager does is easy and many say that as a bounty manager they can choose which projects are good or not. We cannot blame everything on the bounty manager when the project we follow becomes a scam because sometimes the bounty manager also doesn't know about it and they only supervise the bounty participants and also always update the spreadsheet and report the results of all the work to the team behind the project. .

But let us also not say that the bounty managers have the absolute freedom to accept all kinds of projects for as long as they are paid well. We should not say that the bounty managers do not have any accountability as to the projects they are promoting. That is not good also. Bounty managers should at least do their research as the bounty participants are also doing their research. Bounty managers are like portals. Once a scam is approved by the managers, there will be a flood of other people, the bounty participants, promoting it resulting into a bigger problem. The bounty managers have responsibilities, too.

[BlackFor3st]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

This only summarized how difficult the task of bounty managers and the bounty hunters should also respect them especially in the event that there are mistakes that happened or there are delays with the stake counting.

Most of the bounty hunters are blaming the bounty managers if their stakes are not correct and they didn't even bother in thinking why they only get that stakes. It's not easy to be a bounty manager if their are plenty of hunters that are almost noob (They just randomly do the task without reading the rules and guidelines). This is the common mistakes of the bounty hunters, though not all but most of the new hunters are like these.

[btcltcdigger]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

Reading this, my smile was getting bigger and bigger, but i couldn't agree more.
Unfortunately bounties nowadays have a really bad rep, and their usefulness to the projects is questionable more often than not.

The truth is, 50% or more bounty hunters have no clue what they're applying for, they just heard from someone "go apply, its free money". Sad part is, around 30% of them don't even speak English (which i think many would agree, is a must in this community).

And no matter how you run your campaign, lenient or very strict, there's at least 10% of them that will call you scammer/bad.

I'm sure many of bounty managers heard the phrase "bounty hunters work very hard". While some really do, and kudos to them, most of them have automated retweeting/liking scripts and usually use a spin-bot on articles.
And then, when i do reward a genuinely good article with bonus stakes, i'm accused of favoritism and am subjected to scrutiny and name calling.

It's a cursed road to walk on, being a bounty manager, but it has it's rewards.

At one point, i even had an idea to create a fake bounty, and clearly call it "FAKE BOUNTY, NO REWARDS GIVEN" and explain in the details that it's a social project with no rewards, just to see how many people will blindly join without reading details.

[Dickiy]

the accuracy of being a manager is indeed necessary so that the quality of his work becomes professional when checking the job of a gift seeker whether it is a report or posting their tweets it has to be even more thorough, I know why being a manager is sick? they work to correct the job of a prize seeker but the manager is far less allocated than the participant signature or articel participant because in their manager consists of groups of course if the manager gets their share they will share their payment equally

[gweedo]

You can't blame bounty managers, they just do their jobs and they are not members of a project. They are hired to manage the campaign and do the best they can, after the bounty ends, the bounty manager will send the spreadsheet to the project and from then on they will end the responsibility. The token distribution time will depend on each project and the bounty manager will never manage it

[JeotQ]

Project teams are to be blame here, before introducing or laughing your project you have to consider some facts like, how to make the token or coin more demanding, to be honest new project with rare features will be unstoppable, only projects that are introducing something that's already available will be in trouble because there will be competitions

[TanakabZX]

To all bounty hunters by now I expect you guys to have learned about rushing to promote any projects you see fit, most times not getting paid is not the bounty managers fault but from the team themselves, there is nothing bounty manager can do if team refused to pay bounty rewards, BM job is to conduct the bounty program, we bounty hunters are the ones who have the ball in our courts, think very well, do better research before you promote any project

[btcdie]

I know exactly the complaint as a bounty manager, because one of them is the project they hold turns out to be a scam project (and not getting any of it) and then the negative trust is in the account. Not all managers know which projects are legitimate and which are scams, but some of them are reliable managers who will surely earn according to the work. being a bounty manager is actually a risk, unless they have been paid in advance (BTC, ETH, USDT). of course it is very different if payment is in coins or project tokens, of course a manager will complain because he only receives junk coins / tokens. for now being a bounty manager or bounty hunter, is a very tiring and time-consuming work. I really miss 2017, where only 3 months I can buy a car.

[bassbity]

Bounty managers cannot be blamed because they only manage campaigns and the rest is only the team that can do that, the project team must be responsible for all this because if the project fails or the bounty is not paid because they themselves are not the bounty manager.
There must be an escrow in every bounty so that bounty hunters can get rewards if there is already an escrow.

[Casdinyard]

At one point, i even had an idea to create a fake bounty, and clearly call it "FAKE BOUNTY, NO REWARDS GIVEN" and explain in the details that it's a social project with no rewards, just to see how many people will blindly join without reading details.

Lol, that's a clever one but really some don't read hence couldn't comprehend what they're reading.
Some jump on the boat even without water. Sad.

I am still confused about how the bounty manager got the job for the project and why they did not select it either, that they were real and paying projects,

Well, apparently even they want to manage a good one when the team itself is totally scammer then they wouldn't know. Some projects looks legit in the beginning then after a while, things turned out the other away around. Bounty managers are someway victims since some doesn't been paid in fiat or bitcoin or the worse their salary is just a shitcoin.

[yazher]

Those Managers deserved to be awarded with hard-working awards. They are one of the reasons why we have this kind of community. If they managed a few scam project, I think it's not a good idea to put all blame to them rather we need to reflect and ask ourself why are we participating in their campaigns. some of these guys are also victims of some scam projects. We need to respect them and think as if we were on their shoes to avoid hurting their feelings.

[mu_enrico]

I think this problem could be solved with a simple BTC payment for the campaign. No more participants must wait for the stupid distribution after working for several months. Managers must not be greedy and they should not accept random unknown campaigns. Then after proper due diligence, the team must use escrow to deal with payments.

Payment with tokens created from thin air is the problem!

[Yaunfitda]

Of course, there's a lot of pain that a bounty manager go when handling bounty projects. And most of the time they got the grunt of bounty participants if payments are delayed and all the manager can do is apologise on behalf of the project itself.

There are a lot of good bounty managers that I think disappear because of many accusations against them. I will not name names here, but way back 2018 there was one who truly lost the trust of the community because the project he is managing turns out to be a scam.

[LogitechMouse]

Unfortunately bounties nowadays have a really bad rep, and their usefulness to the projects is questionable more often than not.

This is because of the scams that happened in the past years especially in 2018 where the scam projects are everywhere and it also affected the reputation of the bounty campaign as a whole. I know how bounty managers are feeling right now but I still believe that you bounty managers still get your fee in managing their campaigns even though some of them are becoming scam in the end.

The truth is, 50% or more bounty hunters have no clue what they're applying for, they just heard from someone "go apply, its free money". Sad part is, around 30% of them don't even speak English (which i think many would agree, is a must in this community).

Bounty campaign = free money for most of the users here and we can't blame them to be honest. They are the bodies of the bounty campaign and a campaign will be useless without them so even though they don't have a clue in the campaign they joined, they will just join for the sake of "FREE MONEY".

And no matter how you run your campaign, lenient or very strict, there's at least 10% of them that will call you scammer/bad.

People will always search for loopholes in everything including in bounty campaigns.
To conclude it, I must give a salute to those bounty campaigns who are working hard just to do their job as a bounty managers. Some of them have their own staffs that can help them in counting. If there are no bounty managers right now, there are no new projects and there are no free money for those stupid users who are just here for the sake of bounty campaigns . Yes scam projects are always there are we can't remove it right now but still respect for the bounty managers out there and I hope that you will not stop in managing campaigns .

[zhekinsp]

Bounty managers are not responsible for the token distribution and most of the managers will mention this in their bounty thread itself but if they are willingly promote after knowing a project is scam or part of that project then that manager is going to get bad reputation from DT members.

Campaign manager also have to pick the right project to promote,if they are choosing random project just to get some bucks then they will not last long here as bounty campaign manager.

[huu78]

Hurts to be a and manager who is billed about the campaign reward as it was because he had all that in his handle he owned him but he was only 3rd party to promote the campaign of one of the projects but it is unfortunate like that. Indeed, many are annoyed by the projects that they hold a lot of problems and feel inappropriate to do their campaign so yes maybe it's already reasonable among the bounty hunters.

[Xcode7]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

In reality this kind of thing can happen, there are some people who want to get more profit by using fake accounts or other methods. Of course this is detrimental for those of us who participate in a campaign honestly, I think the unsettling thing in a bounty campaign has been going on for quite a long time, I don't want to blame anyone here, because I know both the manager or project organizer is doing the best thing for the participants and also the products.

[Genemind]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

Great power comes great responsibility and that's the burden of most bounty managers. Yes, they are getting paid higher than bounty hunters but they are also facing a big risk because they are the ones to blame by bounty hunters if ever the project fails. They should perform every single duty for most participants because that's a part of their task. It's not easy to be a bounty manager because you'll only get paid accordingly for what you have worked for.

[anjiitem]

To all bounty hunters by now I expect you guys to have learned about rushing to promote any projects you see fit, most times not getting paid is not the bounty managers fault but from the team themselves, there is nothing bounty manager can do if team refused to pay bounty rewards, BM job is to conduct the bounty program, we bounty hunters are the ones who have the ball in our courts, think very well, do better research before you promote any project

It is true that bounty managers cannot be blamed when there are no token distributions or bounty hunters do not pay after completing their work promoting the project. For me, maybe payment using ETH or BTC is a good solution for the project itself and also the bounty hunters. Of course the project is a good or serious project to develop the project and by making payments using eth or btc I think it is a good first step for projects that really have big goals.

[thisnewcoin]

You are absolutely right! The pain of a bounty manager is insane! They have to go through lots of obstacles! Most of the time new hunter causes huge problems! Some hunters keep asking the same question, again and again, that's too much irritating, I experienced it! After doing all of your mentioned stuff, still, people start blaming if a single task goes a miss! No one talks about bounty managers, everyone just sees the result not the hard work behind it!

[abeecrypto]

I have actually felt for bounty managers because I sometimes see the trouble that bounty hunters put them through. Actually, I do vex for some bounty hunters. Especially the ones that cheat and flood the whole telegram group with unecessarry messages.
i didn't know the bounty managers also face a different challenge from the project's team side. I can't imagine how they feel.

[fourpiece]

I know the feeling that is felt by bounty managers that is being blamed by bounty hunters on thier telegram group. Bounty hunters will blame the managers for not giving the reward even the manager already said the spreadsheet is sent to distribution team.

[arbifahrozy]

just stop to be a bounty manager if u don't get that pain. we see now just a few still want to be a bounty manager,such as artezy,bubalex,btcltcdigger. mostly bounty manager already die. probably because they can find a good project,or too tired to managing a stupid bounty participant with sarcasm language.

[Kambal2000]

I know the feeling that is felt by bounty managers that is being blamed by bounty hunters on thier telegram group. Bounty hunters will blame the managers for not giving the reward even the manager already said the spreadsheet is sent to distribution team.

The people are just like that, and it is normal, they will blame for some people or for some reason for psychological reason, and we cannot blame them, but still it's just them who should blame their own selves rather than the bounty manager, as the BM also a human, he's just doing work for a living too and he's taking a risk on it as well. 

[TheICE007]

I understand  the part of the bounty manager, when all blame would go to him by the bounty hunter, first it is the job of the bounty hunter to do some research before joining a project,the manager isn't to blame when the project fails, the fault is from the team who didn't develop a spectacular use case, Repetiton  of use cases makes the project not unique and as such little or no demand.

[ice18]

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Who are you actually referring to managements fault? Is it manager or the developer? In my experience its always the decision of the developer or owner of the project when to distribute tokens because they are also the one who send the token to bounty participants and its not mostly the reason why value of token crash after distribution of bounty no this is not true, one reason I can see is the developer itself dumping huge amount of token greed is the main reason why price is always crashed upon listing on exchange.

[cryp24x]

Personally, I don't really blame the Bounty Managers. Why? There are also victims here. They don't know how the project team final action when the bounty has ended. They are also receiving rewards like us. The tasks of a Bounty Manager is quite hard and requires high reputation and integrity. There are lots of cheaters in a bounty campaign and when the Bounty Manager and his team does their job, cheaters will be eliminated.

[bluebit25]

I think this problem could be solved with a simple BTC payment for the campaign. No more participants must wait for the stupid distribution after working for several months. Managers must not be greedy and they should not accept random unknown campaigns. Then after proper due diligence, the team must use escrow to deal with payments.

Payment with tokens created from thin air is the problem!

It is difficult for new projects to do this way, they don't have the budget to be able to run a bounty with payments in BTC or ETH. In the early stages, the projects only have enough budget for the development of the project, and they need more money to implement an ICO or IEO.

[ven7net]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

Well, if you look for the guilty here, the first of them is the project administration itself. Next comes the manager, who must study this proposal and only draw it up after verification. But why again the participants in the bounty are blamed, I don’t understand. After all, they are precisely the employees who, like investors, are victims of fraud. I don’t think that a bounty participant should conduct an investigation of this or that project, it should be done by the one who first talks about it, namely the bounty manager. And in order to avoid fraud, you need to pay participants every week in cryptocurrency, not in tokens, and then everything will fall into place.

[Coyster]

just stop to be a bounty manager if u don't get that pain. we see now just a few still want to be a bounty manager,such as artezy,bubalex,btcltcdigger. mostly bounty manager already die. probably because they can find a good project,or too tired to managing a stupid bounty participant with sarcasm language.

You cannot advice users not to be bounty managers, as long as they are doing it as a contribution to the bitcoin forum and to ensure that only the very good posters gets paid for their posts. Though there are few users getting hired as bounty managers, because even the projects try to employ the very few mangers that often work for projects(more than one at a time most times). This leaves the upcoming managers who are yet to get any project stranded, this doesn't mean they should give up on their ambitions as bounty managers.

Bounty managers have to be blamed or are blamed if something goes wrong during the project, because it is them that the participants know and not the team behind the project, so as a result of this the managers should do everything possible to make sure they have control of the funds to be given out to participants. Selecting participants is also their duty, so on the issue of spam, it's up to them to remove users who do not comply to that rule and others, one way or another, the power lies in their hands.

[DDante]

I think this problem could be solved with a simple BTC payment for the campaign. No more participants must wait for the stupid distribution after working for several months. Managers must not be greedy and they should not accept random unknown campaigns. Then after proper due diligence, the team must use escrow to deal with payments.

Payment with tokens created from thin air is the problem!

I wish its very easy as you hoped, I know few old projects that do bounties can easily pay bounty hunters in bitcoin or stable coin but what about new projects? Honestly these new projects haven't raised a penny so where are they going to get bitcoin to pay hunters from? The easiest way is to pay hunters in their very own tokens or coins

[ololajulo]

It takes a long time to build a presence on social media that can influence the crypto community, making friends with crypto enthusiast with investors mind takes time also. MOst people into social media campaign are new members with fake followers and friends. Now I struggle to make post about cryptocurrency projects on twitter especially if am not sure of the project. I wont want to dirty my hands with scam project and lose trust from my followers like in the past. I prefer a working project on exchange, maybe new.

[pikkie]

It takes a long time to build a presence on social media that can influence the crypto community, making friends with crypto enthusiast with investors mind takes time also. MOst people into social media campaign are new members with fake followers and friends. Now I struggle to make post about cryptocurrency projects on twitter especially if am not sure of the project. I wont want to dirty my hands with scam project and lose trust from my followers like in the past. I prefer a working project on exchange, maybe new.

indeed of all kinds of bounty campaign projects I think only projects that have a platform of exchange that can get decent results sometimes they can succeed and what makes the bounty manager happy is the success that can be achieved from his manager so that he can make his name good and experienced in set up a bounty campaign.

[nutriagrigia]

I have long believed that bounty campaigns should be done only for projects that already working. social bounties should not exist anymore, except Reddit campaigns. the most productive campaigns are signature and content creation for the project. I haven’t been participating in bounty campaigns for new projects for a year now because I don’t see normal projects and normal teams

[fuer44]

I also feel that, it will definitely hurt when a project fails and the most blamed in this case is the bounty manager. just because the bounty manager is in charge of managing the bounty program, does not mean that full control of the bounty is held by the manager. so in the case of a project failure, I don't think the manager is to blame, but the team behind the project.

[TopTort777]

I have long believed that bounty campaigns should be done only for projects that already working. s

Why would working project need a bounty campaign then?

As I understand bounty campaigns are done to advertise the project, so that it could raise funds to develop the project.

[crisanto01]

I have long believed that bounty campaigns should be done only for projects that already working. s

Why would working project need a bounty campaign then?

As I understand bounty campaigns are done to advertise the project, so that it could raise funds to develop the project.

Exactly! That's the role of bounty campaigns and that is to help each other, help the project so you will benefit more, that's why it is so important that the one you are advertising were legit, or else you are just wasting your time in a couple of months that you are working on it.

For bounty manager, they should not be blame as we also know and aware what we are doing, so let's be responsible, we are not a kid anymore.

[isaac_clarke22]

About the fault of the bounty hunters, it is quite common actually.
They'll just register their entries blindly.
What's worse is that some also do the same in airdrops which commonly ask for KYC requirements and those type of bounty hunters tend to sell their information just for the sake of profit from a shitcoin.

[BeManga]

Yes we are talking about the hassle which the bounty manager goes through and bounties of good projects which fails and the development team ends up with huge loss, as a result, they could not focus on further developments and just don't bother to distribute the bounty tokens to the bounty hunters until the investors trade the tokens or else just shuts down the project.

Management's fault:
They tend to be greedy at one point of time and starts thinking that if they distribute the bounty to the hunters they will dump it anyway nad the value of token will crash down and they dealy the distribution meanwhile the bounty hunters start writing bad about the project and there were instances that the genuine bounty projects were termed as scam for this issue.

Bounty hunter's fault:
Bounty hunter just join any random campaign without investigating and then they are the greediest bunch(not everyone) I have seen while managing the campaigns as one user registers with hundreds of fake accounts and that too their account has followers who have nothing to do with crpto as most of them as desperate who just follows the twitter account by looking at fake DP of some hot girls which are often used by the hunters to gain more followers, moreover, the bounty users enter their ETH address on some other person's profile as well and if the bounty manager does not check that then the cheater will get paid twice and the person who works hard will not be paid, submitting false report is one of the main concern wherein the bounty manager has to check thousands of report and some of them just copy-paste old reports to get reward without working.

Then comes those users who keeps spamming the telegram group by sharing some scam projects and irrelevant stuff from numerous fake profiles.

I think the whole bounty process has become a shithole and the worst part is that the signature campaigns are not entertained by bounties as they want to reach wider audience without knowing that most of the social media campaigns do not reach any real audience as it reaches some fake profiles who follow the bounty hunters just by looking at their picture.

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

it's better not to blame anyone for this and just learn from it
as of now just join the campaign that will put the payment in escrow
and for bounty manager, it is better to ask to escrow the payment for the campaign

[duuuuude]

Almost all managers hired any hunters and I have a question - if it is obvious that most of the accounts are fake, could you somehow track this at the stage of filling out forms?

[GGmith]

being a gift manager and prize hunters is equally risky. but sometimes not all gift managers and prize hunters are honest. not hypocritical but both are equally bad. I mentioned directly, as a gift manager has the authority to cut the allocation of prizes after the project is completed and for prize hunters such as multi-accounts.

[Mdmaruft]

Everyone should respect Bounty manager for their. But some manage promote scam project for Their benefit. When a bounty failed or scammed  then broke bounty hunter hurts. Do i think, bounty manager should make deep research before starting any project.     

[Ultimist]

That's right, bounty managers are not always to blame for project failures and for the fact that the team does not pay bounty hunters a reward. Everyone forgets that in most cases, bounty managers are also trapped and don't get anything for their work.

[shiming]

As a bounty publisher, a bounty manager must first inspect the authenticity of a project, make an advance inspection for the bounty participants, and provide guarantee for the authenticity of the bounty activity. This should be the responsibility of the bounty manager. Otherwise, when the bounty is completed, the bounty payment is not completed, and by that time. Participants must come to discuss with the bounty manager.

[boris singer]

Project failure is no longer the responsibility of the bounty manager because it has entered the public offering stage, the manager only manages the campaign and ensures that the project does not scam before and during the campaign based on their thoughts. not infrequently the distribution process is only carried out by the developer so that the manager is only entitled to manage the campaign. in fact managers are not entirely wrong, except from the start they did receive work from a particular project without doing research which ultimately affected all participants.

[letyouearn]

Bounty manager should take the risks and pay with his reputation if something goes wrong. If he is famous and well known, with good reputaion, people are following him and taking part in all his campaigns. If he fails constantly, he is to blame and nobody likes him

[Polar91]

Bounty manager should take the risks and pay with his reputation if something goes wrong. If he is famous and well known, with good reputaion, people are following him and taking part in all his campaigns. If he fails constantly, he is to blame and nobody likes him

We all know that bounty hunting involves risk to both of the parties including bountyhunters with manager, and the entire projwct itself, but the risk should not entirely shoulder by the bounty managers because he's somehow with the side of the b
hunters and a victim there as well. Though, the initial step to be successful relies on the decision and capability of the manager to choose the right project. Because if not, it is merely the bounty hunters who will suffer, since the manager turns out to be in the shady side of the entire team.

[princehandsome]

Bounty manager should take the risks and pay with his reputation if something goes wrong. If he is famous and well known, with good reputaion, people are following him and taking part in all his campaigns. If he fails constantly, he is to blame and nobody likes him

A professional bounty manager is willing to stake his reputation and not only expect to get pay big of the bounties he manages. of course if the project he manages continues to fail then no one people wants  to follow the bounty he manages. but now many bounty managers don't care if the project they manage will end up being fraudulent or not because they just expect to be paid with the lure of a big salary.

[lienfaye]

Sometimes we tend to blame the bounty manager if something went wrong or the project fail and turn to scam. We are not thinking that the manager is like bounty hunters, doing their job to get paid and they are are not really part of the team. The manager is just a representative to manage the campaign and relay the dev's condition for those who want to participate.

Before we start blaming other people think first if you did your part as a bounty hunter, researching and careful choosing what project to participate in.

[mu_enrico]

what about new projects? Honestly these new projects haven't raised a penny so where are they going to get bitcoin to pay hunters from? The easiest way is to pay hunters in their very own tokens or coins

Then they should understand that marketing is costly, even if they use spam bot, it still cost them a real dollar. If we talk about a new legit project, we start with a business plan, including how to fund the project. Usually, the team uses the bootstrap strategy (their own pocket) until they can produce a proper prototype or MVP. Only then, it's okay to raise external funds.

It depends on the startup stage. The marketing fund could come from their own pocket or seed investors.

Paying hunters with tokens is equal to expecting the hunters to work for free.

[bison]

Bounty manager should take the risks and pay with his reputation if something goes wrong. If he is famous and well known, with good reputaion, people are following him and taking part in all his campaigns. If he fails constantly, he is to blame and nobody likes him

A professional bounty manager is willing to stake his reputation and not only expect to get pay big of the bounties he manages. of course if the project he manages continues to fail then no one people wants  to follow the bounty he manages. but now many bounty managers don't care if the project they manage will end up being fraudulent or not because they just expect to be paid with the lure of a big salary.

which became a problem two years ago when many new projects came to the crypto market and not all of them succeeded in making many bounty managers tempted to get more money to promote the project. it is not the responsibility of the bounty manager to make the project a success or not. but some bounty managers who care about their reputation must choose the best project. not just the payment they will receive.

[Chainsmokers]

Bounty manager should take the risks and pay with his reputation if something goes wrong. If he is famous and well known, with good reputaion, people are following him and taking part in all his campaigns. If he fails constantly, he is to blame and nobody likes him

A professional bounty manager is willing to stake his reputation and not only expect to get pay big of the bounties he manages. of course if the project he manages continues to fail then no one people wants  to follow the bounty he manages. but now many bounty managers don't care if the project they manage will end up being fraudulent or not because they just expect to be paid with the lure of a big salary.

which became a problem two years ago when many new projects came to the crypto market and not all of them succeeded in making many bounty managers tempted to get more money to promote the project. it is not the responsibility of the bounty manager to make the project a success or not. but some bounty managers who care about their reputation must choose the best project. not just the payment they will receive.

The bounty manager is not responsible for the success or failure of the project and for me personally it might be difficult for a bounty manager to judge whether a project is good or not because we know that the scammer always has a way to find loopholes and can get into it and sometimes the bounty manager only do its work by updating the spreadsheet, determining whether participants are in accordance with the requirements and reporting the results that have been done by all participants.

[Warkop]

Bounty manager should take the risks and pay with his reputation if something goes wrong. If he is famous and well known, with good reputaion, people are following him and taking part in all his campaigns. If he fails constantly, he is to blame and nobody likes him

A professional bounty manager is willing to stake his reputation and not only expect to get pay big of the bounties he manages. of course if the project he manages continues to fail then no one people wants  to follow the bounty he manages. but now many bounty managers don't care if the project they manage will end up being fraudulent or not because they just expect to be paid with the lure of a big salary.

which became a problem two years ago when many new projects came to the crypto market and not all of them succeeded in making many bounty managers tempted to get more money to promote the project. it is not the responsibility of the bounty manager to make the project a success or not. but some bounty managers who care about their reputation must choose the best project. not just the payment they will receive.

The bounty manager is not responsible for the success or failure of the project and for me personally it might be difficult for a bounty manager to judge whether a project is good or not because we know that the scammer always has a way to find loopholes and can get into it and sometimes the bounty manager only do its work by updating the spreadsheet, determining whether participants are in accordance with the requirements and reporting the results that have been done by all participants.

But as a campaign manager who has extensive experience in managing a project, of course, can assess a project that smells of fraud and even very often it happens, and the most serious problem is the rise of Copy links on Spreadsheets, where the campaign manager often misses in terms of assessing and correcting the work of all campaign participants, and that as a drawback of a campaign manager who spelled out too much of their duties as campaign manager, at least there was a change to prevent all of this from happening to be more accurate in terms of assessing and correcting the work of bounty campaign participants. ..

[maxreish]

A couple of times bounty manager is the one who was being blamed for the unsuccess projects. Not realizing that bounty managers are just doing their job whatever the owner wants him to do. And it is true that bounty participants are juat joining any ICO or any signature campaigns without further realizing that it is not worth to join for.

Being a bounty manager isn't an easy job. Reputations, good image, efforts and time are needed and I understand where OP is coming from all of his sentiments.

[qiwoman2]

I think personally from now on unless the coins are already on exchanges, bounty managers and also bounty hunters should be paid part in Eth or BTC and part in the token at the end of the ICO/IEO as a bonus. This would be far less risky for bounty hunters and managers alike because then even if the projects turn to scam, we have already had a part payment in a real digital currency that we can exchange or hodl with less risk. I also managed a bounty once and the most annoying part was sifting through all those fake accounts and even worse still, we had members pretending to be real legitimate BTCTALK members. I have had my profile faked many times and my content was stolen even as a bounty hunter. I am thinking even in bounty hunting there are scammers and thieves? There was a whole Vietnamese ring of scammers faking accounts for the video campaigns, they tried to steal every single video of my Husband's lol from his channel to get stakes in video bounties. It's a huge task to be bounty manager and one cannot run a bounty by oneself, you need at least one assistant minimum to help check and double-check spreadsheets, as well sift through tons of PMS coming in daily from bounty hunters. Don't think it's an easy job, because it isn't.

[julius caesar]

It is hard to become a bounty manager since all of the blame is going to be your burden because you are the one talking to the bounty participants. But, as a bounty hunter, lets understand the situation of the bounty manager. They just relay the information to us and have nothing to do with the scam that will happen sooner or later.

[Edraket31]

It is hard to become a bounty manager since all of the blame is going to be your burden because you are the one talking to the bounty participants. But, as a bounty hunter, lets understand the situation of the bounty manager. They just relay the information to us and have nothing to do with the scam that will happen sooner or later.

Yes, although they have made vigilant on the project, still they can't make excuse and their trust will be vanished here in the forum, people will accused them that they were scammers too, so they should make sure too that they are only dealing with legit project so that their reputation won't be at risk.

[XCANA]

It is hard to become a bounty manager since all of the blame is going to be your burden because you are the one talking to the bounty participants. But, as a bounty hunter, lets understand the situation of the bounty manager. They just relay the information to us and have nothing to do with the scam that will happen sooner or later.

What? I have seen and work with many campaigns managers and haven't seen the difficulties in being a bounty manager. Although, many incompetent managers may found things difficult as a result causing them pays; who cares. Any competent bounty manager will always find things easy to administer over a campaign.

Campaign managers should be held responsible for their inability to double check the campaign they chose to administer to know if they are legit or scams, not the responsibility of the hunters who are just here doing what can earn them few SATs.

[BitDane]

It is hard to become a bounty manager since all of the blame is going to be your burden because you are the one talking to the bounty participants. But, as a bounty hunter, lets understand the situation of the bounty manager. They just relay the information to us and have nothing to do with the scam that will happen sooner or later.

What? I have seen and work with many campaigns managers and haven't seen the difficulties in being a bounty manager. Although, many incompetent managers may found things difficult as a result causing them pays; who cares. Any competent bounty manager will always find things easy to administer over a campaign.

Campaign managers should be held responsible for their inability to double check the campaign they chose to administer to know if they are legit or scams, not the responsibility of the hunters who are just here doing what can earn them few SATs.

I agree, they are the one who brought the project bounty here in the forum because they are paid to do so.  Even a volunteer person should beheld accountable to whatever damage done by his promotion.  Bounty hunters task is easy, anyone can do it as long as you have the tool.  Participants will join whatever these bounty manager posted here without any hard effort.  And the checking and verifying participants is one of the taks they are paid with so they should not whine about it.  Aside from that, it is a personal responsibility of a Bounty manager to verify if his project is a scam or not.

[Beparanf]

It is hard to become a bounty manager since all of the blame is going to be your burden because you are the one talking to the bounty participants. But, as a bounty hunter, lets understand the situation of the bounty manager. They just relay the information to us and have nothing to do with the scam that will happen sooner or later.

Only few bounty managers now whotu  really studied the project it's unfortunate that-those who research it will be involved too when project fails . No bounty manager , professionals will risk their reputation so we must not blame them when projects failed . Only at times they forgot to check or add our stakes in campaigns spreadsheet . The rest depend on the market itself  . 

[cryp24x]

I guess this will give us a life lesson. If we don't really know what we are doing then don't accept the job as Bounty Manager. I think it will just give you a heartache when you accepted the job and whine about it because you have difficulty on delivering the tasks well. I think that is why we need to be good at something we do. Besides, we are paid doing it.  The difference between them and the participants is the upfront payment.

[coin_1122]

It is hard to become a bounty manager since all of the blame is going to be your burden because you are the one talking to the bounty participants. But, as a bounty hunter, lets understand the situation of the bounty manager. They just relay the information to us and have nothing to do with the scam that will happen sooner or later.

What? I have seen and work with many campaigns managers and haven't seen the difficulties in being a bounty manager. Although, many incompetent managers may found things difficult as a result causing them pays; who cares. Any competent bounty manager will always find things easy to administer over a campaign.

Campaign managers should be held responsible for their inability to double check the campaign they chose to administer to know if they are legit or scams, not the responsibility of the hunters who are just here doing what can earn them few SATs.

Of course, it is their duty to cross-check about the company because we have seen many managers failed to deliver from the projects. Bounty hunter's duty is to cross-check the companies whether they are legit or not, we already lost faith in bounties because we worked many months without any payments. We cannot judge the bounty managers or company.

[ubercool]

Bounty hunters think that bounty manager will be a part of the project team but in most of the cases it'll not be true as bounty manager will be hired just to do a job and get paid, he won't be having the power to do any decisions rather just do as the team says. It's really hard to do these days and even the icos are not even getting any investments.

[Driggers95]

A couple of times bounty manager is the one who was being blamed for the unsuccess projects. Not realizing that bounty managers are just doing their job whatever the owner wants him to do. And it is true that bounty participants are juat joining any ICO or any signature campaigns without further realizing that it is not worth to join for.

Being a bounty manager isn't an easy job. Reputations, good image, efforts and time are needed and I understand where OP is coming from all of his sentiments.

Indeed, bounty managers are just hired employees with a pretty good salary because of their management skills and experience, they are not an official member of the project but a lot of people often blame them for the failures of a project, the impatience and agitation are understandable from the participants but maybe they attacked the wrong object. In addition, the bounty manager has only a few contacts with the project, they do not have the right to decide or ask anything but many participants still ask very difficult questions to answer, and asked many times while there was an answer ahead

[desticy]

All your listed difficulties are ordinary work for a good manager. To be honest, a good manager organizes everything in such a way that later he can easily cut off fake accounts from honest ones.
For a good manager, this is not a problem. Moreover, he can specially create a trap for such accounts so that they do not complicate the process of their mimicry.
In the end I will say that good managers are one, and that is why there are so many problems at the distribution and calculation stage.

[Novatech8]

A couple of times bounty manager is the one who was being blamed for the unsuccess projects. Not realizing that bounty managers are just doing their job whatever the owner wants him to do. And it is true that bounty participants are juat joining any ICO or any signature campaigns without further realizing that it is not worth to join for.

Being a bounty manager isn't an easy job. Reputations, good image, efforts and time are needed and I understand where OP is coming from all of his sentiments.

Bounty managers capability is of different types, few bounty managers on this forum cares about their reputations and they do research before approving a bounty project but some bounty managers are know for always introducing bad projects, I'm not going to mention names but this is true

[TWW]

A couple of times bounty manager is the one who was being blamed for the unsuccess projects. Not realizing that bounty managers are just doing their job whatever the owner wants him to do. And it is true that bounty participants are juat joining any ICO or any signature campaigns without further realizing that it is not worth to join for.

Being a bounty manager isn't an easy job. Reputations, good image, efforts and time are needed and I understand where OP is coming from all of his sentiments.

Bounty managers capability is of different types, few bounty managers on this forum cares about their reputations and they do research before approving a bounty project but some bounty managers are know for always introducing bad projects, I'm not going to mention names but this is true

although in good research, sometimes not all projects promoted by bounty managers can be successful. this also depends on market conditions and other factors. we cannot force and know the wishes of the bounty manager. we have to research the projects that we will support. and the decision is whether we want to join the campaign or not.

[masterrex]

I don't know much about what settings and payment arrangement was use between the project team and the bounty manager, But i'm sure the bounty manager was directly paid in BTC or other liquid coins/tokens, in that sense i think the bounty manager has more advantage comparing to the ordinary bounty hunters, But still the burden of bounty campaign performance in terms of results stays on the bounty manager side including on how to run the bounty campaign efficiently.

[leyton11]

Actually, I understand this. I was the one who used to run the bounty campaign and I myself get paid with their tokens. We are like bounty hunters, every action needs to wait for a notice from our superiors and from there we will dare to distribute the tokens or give exact dates. So when a bad project ends, don't swear at us because we're one of the victims. We should better understand each other's problems and create the best quality community.

[samuraijin]

I am still confused about how the bounty manager got the job for the project and why they did not select it either, that they were real and paying projects,

Well, apparently even they want to manage a good one when the team itself is totally scammer then they wouldn't know. Some projects looks legit in the beginning then after a while, things turned out the other away around. Bounty managers are someway victims since some doesn't been paid in fiat or bitcoin or the worse their salary is just a shitcoin.

yes I know they seem to be pursuing reputation in this forum of course so they don't choose which one is the best to be shared here, actually this should also be prevented so that no bounty managers don't get paid because there are many scam projects, they can ask for half a down payment for payment as a bounty manager so as not to be harmed when they scammers leave the project, including bounty hunters, my hope is that in the future, bounty managers must be selective on the projects they hold at least help prevent fraud that often occurs like this, because they are the leaders of bounty hunters in This forum, whatever it is good for everyone, let's fix it now that must be fixed

[makishart]

A couple of times bounty manager is the one who was being blamed for the unsuccess projects. Not realizing that bounty managers are just doing their job whatever the owner wants him to do. And it is true that bounty participants are juat joining any ICO or any signature campaigns without further realizing that it is not worth to join for.

Being a bounty manager isn't an easy job. Reputations, good image, efforts and time are needed and I understand where OP is coming from all of his sentiments.

Bounty managers capability is of different types, few bounty managers on this forum cares about their reputations and they do research before approving a bounty project but some bounty managers are know for always introducing bad projects, I'm not going to mention names but this is true

But the central capability from the managers must be to make sure if the participant was getting safe too. There was a lot of differences between bitcoin campaign and altcoin campaign manager. The majority of managers who are introducing so many scam projects are coming from the altcoin bounty as they wanna look like they are reputable enough to manage the campaign. Still, they don't care about the quality of the campaign. Those altcoin campaign managers should have been putting more responsibility to make sure the quality of their projects.

[totoy4741]

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

[carriebee]

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

[distr@yopmail.com]

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

indeed both accept the risk it seems. but the bounty manager gets paid in the beginning but their reputation gets worse and I don't think it's comparable to those who have built a very good reputation. and for bounty hunters, we have to accept it if we have made sure to join a campaign.

[wajik-tempe]

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

But i think most of bounty managers (especially who already got big names in bounty) won't receive salary with the project's token instead of with fixed coins like USDT or Bitcoins because they won't their effort managing the bounty will have zero result because the price of the tokens could be not valuable when enters the market

[Edraket31]

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

But i think most of bounty managers (especially who already got big names in bounty) won't receive salary with the project's token instead of with fixed coins like USDT or Bitcoins because they won't their effort managing the bounty will have zero result because the price of the tokens could be not valuable when enters the market

It depends, because I have a friend who becomes bounty manager, during the peak season or good market, they are paid in USDT, but, after the bull run, most of the time they are paid in less USDT and the rest in tokens, so it really depends on what has been agreed before doing campaign.

[tambok]

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

indeed both accept the risk it seems. but the bounty manager gets paid in the beginning but their reputation gets worse and I don't think it's comparable to those who have built a very good reputation. and for bounty hunters, we have to accept it if we have made sure to join a campaign.

For both bounty managers and hunters, decent research is enough to prevent the scam teams to hire them. Without considering the alternative projects, joining the bounty campaigns as a manager will have such consequences. Obviously, the scammers don't care about the middleman and they only look for their gain in all aspects of IEO-ICO.

Although, bounty managers should not be blame in having a scam project, but still they have to protect their dignity and their reputation and of course their time, that's why they should find a project that they can already rely on, that they can be proud of, so that whether it is failed or success at least it is legit unlike being success but turned out to be scam.

[Fatunad]

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.

[Hypnosis00]

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.

A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

[criket]

A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

even when the bounty hunter already gets their payment token but the project fails and the token is not registered in the exchange, the bounty manager becomes one of the first people to be even blamed by the bounty hunter.

[JC btc]

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.

A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

I pity them actually, especially that most of the time they have 5k+ participants in social media, imagine how much they are spending their time just to check our output, then we will blame them for something that we should blame too, for sure they did their job to check the project if feasible or not, but it's not their fault if it is failed, so let's not blame them.

[qomariah95]

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.

A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

I pity them actually, especially that most of the time they have 5k+ participants in social media, imagine how much they are spending their time just to check our output, then we will blame them for something that we should blame too, for sure they did their job to check the project if feasible or not, but it's not their fault if it is failed, so let's not blame them.

Asking for 50% fiat payment and 50% of their tokens is a good idea. But unfortunately every project cannot do that, most projects remain with their token allocation for the bounty program. And here I do not want to blame, but want something even better for BM and other participants. A good thing to do one BM is to ask for tokens in advance and use escrow as collateral.

[Script3d]

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

Bounty managers usually will put a demand because managing a bounty campaign is a pain in the head. You're not only reviewing post in the forum but also with different kinds of social media platform advertising and you get to monitor them everyday. Any bounty manager would demand a 50-50 deal like 50% of payment will be btc and the other 50% is the company token.

A sad reality but it is true. BM suffers the huge complaint once the project fails and even not been paid for its service. I'm not really good putting blame towards BM cause in the first place, they don't want to make it happen also (unless a true scammer) and they don't want to ruin their reputation but sadly bounty participants never realize.

I pity them actually, especially that most of the time they have 5k+ participants in social media, imagine how much they are spending their time just to check our output, then we will blame them for something that we should blame too, for sure they did their job to check the project if feasible or not, but it's not their fault if it is failed, so let's not blame them.

Asking for 50% fiat payment and 50% of their tokens is a good idea. But unfortunately every project cannot do that, most projects remain with their token allocation for the bounty program. And here I do not want to blame, but want something even better for BM and other participants. A good thing to do one BM is to ask for tokens in advance and use escrow as collateral.

I don't think having 50/50 is a good idea since bounty hunters are just gonna dump their tokens when it hits the exchange, better to have that in fiat or coin with a huge volume, usually the development doesn't go really well with ICO right now because it can be a scam in the long run. I think getting paid every week is the best because it removes the escrow so less cost for the devs.

[Zionatin]

I never blame managers. If they rubbish managers I will complain though. There many useless managers. So many times I see bounty stakes being denied for stupid reasons like if you forgot to register they do not give you weeks worth of stakes. This is plain laziness. A genuine manager is worth following. Hopefully one day I find a manager I like. Managers give themselves a bad name but blaming a manager for the fail of a project is stupid.
You can only blame the manager for poor bounty management. Poor management can contribute to a failing project but you cannot fully blame a manager. The drop of the price in a coin does not make it a scam unless the devs themselves dumped.

[mobilestrike]

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

I also heard that some managers like to get paid in the tokens of the project seeing the hype of the tokens in the end of 2017 but nowadays they are also running on the same condition like the hunters. In that case they have to care that to assure the identity and security of the payment of the bounty. They have to create a separate rule in which they have to secure some funds from the projects to secure the work of the bounty hunters.

[#Darren]

In the majority of cases, bounty manager has nothing to do with a failed bounty or project exiting scam. But at the end, manager is running a bounty campaign and he is responsible at least to check everything before publishing a bounty.

[mdzahed134]

Bounty hunters think that bounty manager will be a part of the project team but in most of the cases it'll not be true as bounty manager will be hired just to do a job and get paid, he won't be having the power to do any decisions rather just do as the team says. It's really hard to do these days and even the icos are not even getting any investments.

Actually bounty hunters unable to discuss with core team for asking all of those question regarding which project. So that hunters thinking bounty manager capable to response their desired question. But sometimes bounty manager will play role as a part of project team. I think bounty manager can't blamed for the reward because they just involved for maintain the bounty, distribution depend on the project team.                     

[maruf01788]

We are bounty hunters, we work hard day after day. If any project scammed it's really painful for us. Then hunters blame bounty managers. But it's not bounty manager fault. Some Bounty manager are lazy. They don't count hunters stacks properly. I really hate them. And i always respect all good manager who complete his work properly.   

[bigcash2011]

In the end it is thousands of bounty hunters that get beaten if a project or team fails to raise funds or simply scams and not pay the reward tokens, the bounty hunters are at real loss and receiving end because they have wasted both their months of work and time and not to forget their reputation that gets impacted negatively even if they have peomoted a project that suddenly scams or fails.

[xiboothrezi]

this is the importance of being an educated bounty hunter.  so it's not easy to get caught up with project scams, be more critical in analyzing projects, and ready to accept all the risks associated with bounty campaigns.  being a bounty hunter must be prepared to accept the risk, ready not to be paid.  Bounty managers are only intermediaries, not all losses that bounty hunters receive are entirely the mistakes of bounty managers, so understand that BM also "works".  let's be wiser and more educated

[Maslate]

We are bounty hunters, we work hard day after day. If any project scammed it's really painful for us. Then hunters blame bounty managers. But it's not bounty manager fault. Some Bounty manager are lazy. They don't count hunters stacks properly. I really hate them. And i always respect all good manager who complete his work properly.   

Bounty hunters are just like bounty managers who only work hard to get paid. But it cannot be denied that once a bounty manager cannot fulfill his promise and does not pay the bounty hunters well, he will judge immediately in a negative way. Bounty hunters should also be considerate because both bounty hunters and bounty manager work hard for the success of the project.

[minairia3]

I can feel the pain of those managers that being blame along the process if their campaign handled isnt paid those hunters but there is always a discretion on their part that hunters should understand. They are only handling the project and payment for that will come from the team. Unless the project escrow its budget for campaign to the CM. There is one guy who I think good in this, @julerz12 the campaign BMY give him the tokens for the campaign. It's nice to have someone like that in forum.

[Apened]

We all have the pain in joining a campaign if the project was not true to its investors and promoters . Being a biunty manager is really hard although it is very rewarding because of the highest stakes among all of every individual participants but the work is isn't that really light like the bounty hunters. That was the risk of joining and handling a bounty campaign , we don't have any assurance right from the start.

[Kimonoe]

We are bounty hunters, we work hard day after day. If any project scammed it's really painful for us. Then hunters blame bounty managers. But it's not bounty manager fault. Some Bounty manager are lazy. They don't count hunters stacks properly. I really hate them. And i always respect all good manager who complete his work properly.   

Bounty hunters are just like bounty managers who only work hard to get paid. But it cannot be denied that once a bounty manager cannot fulfill his promise and does not pay the bounty hunters well, he will judge immediately in a negative way. Bounty hunters should also be considerate because both bounty hunters and bounty manager work hard for the success of the project.

when viewed from the side of the bounty manager, sometimes they carry a big burden, because sometimes the project doesn't pay and they become the target of ridicule from the bounty hunter. but I consider all that a risk. all have their own risks. of course we lose time and thought for several months to make the project work

[gensol]

The act of Bounty hunting has lost its initial valor coupled with the never ending bear market situation. You're right moderators gets paid the same way hunters do and we hunters forget that most times they get paid with useless tokens as we do as well. Some sort of regulations as regards bounty exercise will go a long way protecting both the hunters and the campaign moderators.

[patz22]

Money is basically the root of evil and greediness and a lot of people in here - not all doing a lot of accounts but good thing, merit was born. When it comes to joining bounties, I do agree, not all are reading or doing research about the project thinking that bounties are still good last time (2017-early 2018).

[Script3d]

We are bounty hunters, we work hard day after day. If any project scammed it's really painful for us. Then hunters blame bounty managers. But it's not bounty manager fault. Some Bounty manager are lazy. They don't count hunters stacks properly. I really hate them. And i always respect all good manager who complete his work properly.   

Bounty hunters are just like bounty managers who only work hard to get paid. But it cannot be denied that once a bounty manager cannot fulfill his promise and does not pay the bounty hunters well, he will judge immediately in a negative way. Bounty hunters should also be considerate because both bounty hunters and bounty manager work hard for the success of the project.

Most of the time the developers hold the token and im sure they are the ones who distribute not the bounty manager, unless the bounty manager holds the bounty tokens which is unlikely, i do agree bounty hunters should stop blaming bounty manager since the bounty manager only verify the bounty hunters work and not in charge of distributing tokens.

[BTC Future]

Reading this, my smile was getting bigger and bigger, but i couldn't agree more.
Unfortunately bounties nowadays have a really bad rep, and their usefulness to the projects is questionable more often than not.

The truth is, 50% or more bounty hunters have no clue what they're applying for, they just heard from someone "go apply, its free money". Sad part is, around 30% of them don't even speak English (which i think many would agree, is a must in this community).

And no matter how you run your campaign, lenient or very strict, there's at least 10% of them that will call you scammer/bad.

I'm sure many of bounty managers heard the phrase "bounty hunters work very hard". While some really do, and kudos to them, most of them have automated retweeting/liking scripts and usually use a spin-bot on articles.
And then, when i do reward a genuinely good article with bonus stakes, i'm accused of favoritism and am subjected to scrutiny and name calling.

It's a cursed road to walk on, being a bounty manager, but it has it's rewards.

At one point, i even had an idea to create a fake bounty, and clearly call it "FAKE BOUNTY, NO REWARDS GIVEN" and explain in the details that it's a social project with no rewards, just to see how many people will blindly join without reading details.

Everyone that ever worked with you hates you. Make a pole on your shitty channel and see for yourself. Garbage.

[dunfida]

We are bounty hunters, we work hard day after day. If any project scammed it's really painful for us. Then hunters blame bounty managers. But it's not bounty manager fault. Some Bounty manager are lazy. They don't count hunters stacks properly. I really hate them. And i always respect all good manager who complete his work properly.   

Bounty hunters are just like bounty managers who only work hard to get paid. But it cannot be denied that once a bounty manager cannot fulfill his promise and does not pay the bounty hunters well, he will judge immediately in a negative way. Bounty hunters should also be considerate because both bounty hunters and bounty manager work hard for the success of the project.

Most of the time the developers hold the token and im sure they are the ones who distribute not the bounty manager, unless the bounty manager holds the bounty tokens which is unlikely, i do agree bounty hunters should stop blaming bounty manager since the bounty manager only verify the bounty hunters work and not in charge of distributing tokens.

Its rare for the team would give out those tokens on the hands of managers yet most of the time they would be the ones who would distribute those shit tokens in the end of the day.

I can see those blaming in part of bounty managers which come to think that they are just workers too that had been paid by the team itself.They are just handing and organizing the campaign or task given
but doesnt mean they do handle out the payouts. No matter what the situation, there would always be that someone do complain and do call you out badly.I do agree into those words said on OP too.

[totoy4741]

I think most Bounty Managers are paid Ethereum or Bitcoins to handle a certain projects, or if not atleast half of the payments are in fiats and the other half is in token of the project they are campaigning. The ones that would mostly suffers are the hunters, as there are mo assurance of the project would be successful or at least achieve their target cap(softcap, hardcap).

They are paid for their work so actually both bounty manager and bounty hunters can be a victim of scam. Though mostly affected on this is the bounty hunters they got not paid nothing at all for their hard work when they join the campaign. That's the problem when we join no assurance that the project will be successful that is why we should create an investigation before we join.

indeed both accept the risk it seems. but the bounty manager gets paid in the beginning but their reputation gets worse and I don't think it's comparable to those who have built a very good reputation. and for bounty hunters, we have to accept it if we have made sure to join a campaign.

That is what Bounty Manager's are taking care of, their reputations. Because of Bounty Projects their handling their reputations are always at risks cause they never know wether the projects are going to be successful or going to be scam. If only there is someone who could filter every bounties to avoid being scammed.

[Wysi]

This is a bump post to clarify that I am not blindly supporting bounty hunters and targeting bounty managers I have been a bounty manager myself and posted about their pain as well and the reason for my last article about bounty hunters are just to make everyone realise that they deserve respect for their hardwork and shouldn't be judged.

I have been sharing my opinion based on the facts and bias.

Regards to the following post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288592.msg55571619#msg55571619

[stomachgrowls]

This is a bump post to clarify that I am not blindly supporting bounty hunters and targeting bounty managers I have been a bounty manager myself and posted about their pain as well and the reason for my last article about bounty hunters are just to make everyone realise that they deserve respect for their hardwork and shouldn't be judged.

I have been sharing my opinion based on the facts and bias.

Regards to the following post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288592.msg55571619#msg55571619

Both parties do have its own weaknesses and strengths but i do agree on the word "RESPECT" and as i had mentioned on the link or thread you had given where this do excludes to those shady managers and
bounty cheaters out there yet these people doesnt deserve any respect or some sort.

Judgement would be subjective and shouldnt be generalize because not all managers are part of the team and just doing their job and not all bounty hunters are cheaters or abusive.

Lets consider who are doing their job or tasks well but you cant really please anyone since there are people who are really that judgmental when it comes to other people.
Once it had spread out then that do really create some generalization among all which is really sad and removing that negative image wont really be that simple.

[nomenclatur]

It cannot be denied that there are still many cheater people who create many accounts to get lots of prizes and people like this always try to get more prizes for their bounty managers they will always get challenges to solve all problems like spammers and cheated people which can be detrimental to the bounty manager, the hard work that bounty managers must do to remove them is of course very difficult to be an honest manager and able to be accountable to all their participants.

[coin-investor]

I can feel the pain of those managers that being blame along the process if their campaign handled isnt paid those hunters but there is always a discretion on their part that hunters should understand. They are only handling the project and payment for that will come from the team. Unless the project escrow its budget for campaign to the CM. There is one guy who I think good in this, @julerz12 the campaign BMY give him the tokens for the campaign. It's nice to have someone like that in forum.

Yes i was part of the campaign Julerz has managed and he escrow the tokens for bounty hunter's protection, although the token is not yet in the market at least the bounty hunters got their token in terms of development of the token, it's on the developers of the token and not on the bounty manager, the manager's task is to see to it that the campaign is clean and the hunter's got their token.

[ibuddy122505]

It cannot be denied that there are still many cheater people who create many accounts to get lots of prizes and people like this always try to get more prizes for their bounty managers they will always get challenges to solve all problems like spammers and cheated people which can be detrimental to the bounty manager, the hard work that bounty managers must do to remove them is of course very difficult to be an honest manager and able to be accountable to all their participants.

It's very tough job indeed, we can't deny it. Farming accounts get it more ridiculous for the bounty manager. I guess, in this way both parties are surviving in the long term. Some hunters very professional of making dump question without reading rules of ant particular campaign. There are lots of member busy on catching those who abused the principles at Scam Accusations thread.

[Jocuserious]

I don't want to blame the bounty manager because a project will be a success or a failure there is nothing for the bounty manager to do. The job of the bounty manager is to create an organisation where the hunters will do their work and the bounty manager will manage the list of those jobs. To participate in the right bounty, you have to exercise your opinion and do enough research.

[dimonstration]

I have never been a bounty manager, but I can understand the pain a bounty manager feels. BM will surely get many complaints and insults from participants who have never read the rules and did not get a stake, even though it is their own mistake.

That's why many bounty managers before are no longer active in having campaign due to complaints as well the many scam projects who appear in the past. Bounties were no longer profitable now unlike before so many really do complain in bounty manager even it's their own fail not reading the rules of the campaign. Only bounty manager who is able to withstand the complaints as well able to research and accept only legit projects will remain as bounty manager.

[janggernaut]

There are lots of member busy on catching those who abused the principles at Scam Accusations thread.

Most of those cheaters have been caught and reported on Reputation thread, not scam accusation. Scam accusation is needed when the project turned to scam and ran away with their ICO/IEO/Defi money.

I don't want to blame the bounty manager because a project will be a success or a failure there is nothing for the bounty manager to do.

Managers MUST do some little research first before he accepting the project they want managed. At least, escrow the bounty funds to them or trusted escrower.

[smyslov]

Regardless of the issue, the bounty managers are cursed as if they are paying out of their pocket. Users needs to understand that even bounty managers are paid for their job just like bounty hunters and most of the time even they are not paid for their hardwork. Even a slightest negligence from bounty hunters gets them a negative trust thanks to those merit thirsty users who tries to blame it all on bounty hunters to get a merit.

this is just a brief of not even 5% of pain which bounty managers go through.

I will never think of applying for bounty manager I know the hardship and the hardship of balancing between the manager and the bounty hunters, some old bounty managers are not doing bounty campaign anymore, because some of them got bad feed backs and some of them stopped because of lack of good projects to manage.

[tukagero]

There are lots of member busy on catching those who abused the principles at Scam Accusations thread.

Most of those cheaters have been caught and reported on Reputation thread, not scam accusation. Scam accusation is needed when the project turned to scam and ran away with their ICO/IEO/Defi money.

I don't want to blame the bounty manager because a project will be a success or a failure there is nothing for the bounty manager to do.

Managers MUST do some little research first before he accepting the project they want managed. At least, escrow the bounty funds to them or trusted escrower.

Maybe some of the managers dont have time to research the project if they were already chosen to run a bounty and the payment for managing has been sent to to them. Only few managers are doing research before they accept a bounty campaign.

[Jocuserious]

There are lots of member busy on catching those who abused the principles at Scam Accusations thread.

Most of those cheaters have been caught and reported on Reputation thread, not scam accusation. Scam accusation is needed when the project turned to scam and ran away with their ICO/IEO/Defi money.

I don't want to blame the bounty manager because a project will be a success or a failure there is nothing for the bounty manager to do.

Managers MUST do some little research first before he accepting the project they want managed. At least, escrow the bounty funds to them or trusted escrower.

In fact, professional manager always do more research on a project. so many times the manager idea is wrong, so there is nothing wrong with the manager. If the ICO/IEO of a project goes to fails then there is no mistake of bounty manager. Also at this time almost all the projects are cheating and scamming where many managers are not willing to manage the bounty at this time.

[Fatunad]

There are lots of member busy on catching those who abused the principles at Scam Accusations thread.

Most of those cheaters have been caught and reported on Reputation thread, not scam accusation. Scam accusation is needed when the project turned to scam and ran away with their ICO/IEO/Defi money.

I don't want to blame the bounty manager because a project will be a success or a failure there is nothing for the bounty manager to do.

Managers MUST do some little research first before he accepting the project they want managed. At least, escrow the bounty funds to them or trusted escrower.

In fact, professional manager always do more research on a project. so many times the manager idea is wrong, so there is nothing wrong with the manager. If the ICO/IEO of a project goes to fails then there is no mistake of bounty manager. Also at this time almost all the projects are cheating and scamming where many managers are not willing to manage the bounty at this time.

Thats why its important to choose the known managers rather than taking a risk on joining those managers which arent known or newbie or been part of the team itself.
There are lots of manager of this forum had stopped nor get calm on getting or taking projects because of lots of scam that do happen even up to these years.
Bounty hunters should really be careful on choosing which and what project they should advertise and if managers have done their job well then its not really that
right for them to get blamed if the project didnt pay in the end yet they are the main ones who arent being paid since they are just employees too on the said
project.

[BitcoinsGreat]

There are lots of member busy on catching those who abused the principles at Scam Accusations thread.

Most of those cheaters have been caught and reported on Reputation thread, not scam accusation. Scam accusation is needed when the project turned to scam and ran away with their ICO/IEO/Defi money.

I don't want to blame the bounty manager because a project will be a success or a failure there is nothing for the bounty manager to do.

Managers MUST do some little research first before he accepting the project they want managed. At least, escrow the bounty funds to them or trusted escrower.

In fact, professional manager always do more research on a project. so many times the manager idea is wrong, so there is nothing wrong with the manager. If the ICO/IEO of a project goes to fails then there is no mistake of bounty manager. Also at this time almost all the projects are cheating and scamming where many managers are not willing to manage the bounty at this time.

People needs to understand that the manager of the bounty is not the manager of the project. He is only paid to manage the bounty.
So in case if the bounty project becomes a failure in future, the bounty manager has noting to do with it.

[shoreno]

There are lots of member busy on catching those who abused the principles at Scam Accusations thread.

Most of those cheaters have been caught and reported on Reputation thread, not scam accusation. Scam accusation is needed when the project turned to scam and ran away with their ICO/IEO/Defi money.

I don't want to blame the bounty manager because a project will be a success or a failure there is nothing for the bounty manager to do.

Managers MUST do some little research first before he accepting the project they want managed. At least, escrow the bounty funds to them or trusted escrower.

In fact, professional manager always do more research on a project. so many times the manager idea is wrong, so there is nothing wrong with the manager. If the ICO/IEO of a project goes to fails then there is no mistake of bounty manager. Also at this time almost all the projects are cheating and scamming where many managers are not willing to manage the bounty at this time.

People needs to understand that the manager of the bounty is not the manager of the project. He is only paid to manage the bounty.
So in case if the bounty project becomes a failure in future, the bounty manager has noting to do with it.

bounty is consider as a project and we can say that managers are managing the project . on a real project, i think its not the managers role to process payments but it was a role for the financial in charge or treasury except maybe on the sig campaigns on this forum because popular managers can process payment and manage the campaign at the same time . on bounty its different because managers are also treated as a bounty hunter and will also get paid once the bounty is over . bounty managers must search for a good project if they do not want that to happen and having an ability to manage a good project makes them iconic

[jademaxsuy]

I know how a bounty manager could be so busy with the bounty hunters full of request. However, all could be manageable if you only know how to screen the bounty hunters. Usually a project owner wanted all bounty hunters to join and this is really the hassle in part of the bounty manager. Other effective bounty manager were having to limit the participants so that whenever they will going to check the work of bounty hunters they can get it right away for having a limited participants in every bounty campaign.

But a good bounty manager should not accept all the participants who wanted to join in the project. The best thing to do to the bounty manager is to process the application accepting only applicants that knows what to do as bounty hunter.

A good bounty manager should implement rules like

1. Accept and view history of the bounty hunter if he has a good promotional skills.
2. If signature campaign then do not accept one liner posts.
3. Add rules to remove bounty hunters that are impatient to receive their rewards.
4. Add rules to remove bounty hunters that do not know how to read pinned posts in telegram or in the bounty thread.
5. Add rules that bounty manager should not accept question especially if it is answered already in a posts or pinned messages.

There are many rules that could be added for the betterment of managing bounty campaigns it is up to the bounty manager how he will going to manage smoothly the campaign without getting frustrated or annoyed with the bounty hunters. I know that bounty hunters as well had gone pain especially not getting rewards but the feeling is mutual especially if project does not pay because bounty manager is also a bounty hunter that accepts payment from the owner of the project for managing the project. If the bounty hunters get scam then so does the bounty manager!

[Rabi3]

and a lot of people put the blame on the bounty manager even though he had nothing to do with it, he can't control whether the project would be
successful or not, that's hideous, people should understand that and just leave them alone.

[superving]

and a lot of people put the blame on the bounty manager even though he had nothing to do with it, he can't control whether the project would be
successful or not, that's hideous, people should understand that and just leave them alone.

Thats why bounty managers should always make a research before accepting the project so that they wont be blame once the team project went to scam. They should review the project first.

[kbhutto]

Bounty Manager usually manage Bounty campaigns consisting of several people like their Detevtive bounty Team has several people when handling Bounty campaigns.  However, some Bounty managers work alone so they do not have enough time to answer questions from Bounty participant which results in chaotic discussions on the Bounty telegram and often see harsh words thrown at the Bounty manager.

[Rabi3]

and a lot of people put the blame on the bounty manager even though he had nothing to do with it, he can't control whether the project would be
successful or not, that's hideous, people should understand that and just leave them alone.

Thats why bounty managers should always make a research before accepting the project so that they wont be blame once the team project went to scam. They should review the project first.

i guess you're right, but even some big projects fooled a lot of people and turned out to be a scam, things happen, a project can seem appealing
but an exit scam or something can pop out of nowhere.

[stomachgrowls]

and a lot of people put the blame on the bounty manager even though he had nothing to do with it, he can't control whether the project would be
successful or not, that's hideous, people should understand that and just leave them alone.

Thats why bounty managers should always make a research before accepting the project so that they wont be blame once the team project went to scam. They should review the project first.

i guess you're right, but even some big projects fooled a lot of people and turned out to be a scam, things happen, a project can seem appealing
but an exit scam or something can pop out of nowhere.

And this is what makes this thing even harder where you wont able to recognize when its still early and everything will be known when it starts to mess up but somehow you can do all sorts of things like researching and trying to find out some red flag which would really be enough for you to skip out and stay away with this project or else you would really be just ending up on wasting up your precious time and resources.
About on the situation of most bounty managers where they do get the blame which i do see normal for having that kind of reaction but not all the times people should really be forcing nor stressing out
BM's yet to know that they are just also some hired worker to be part of their marketing strategy.Well, this had been already the norm when everytime theres some issues and concerns do raised up on a particular
project. Primary be targeted or blamed out will be the bounty manager first.

[Maslate]

Bounty Manager usually manage Bounty campaigns consisting of several people like their Detevtive bounty Team has several people when handling Bounty campaigns.  However, some Bounty managers work alone so they do not have enough time to answer questions from Bounty participant which results in chaotic discussions on the Bounty telegram and often see harsh words thrown at the Bounty manager.

You know which project you'll join as usually those popular bounty managers are the ones running a good projects.

When a bounty manager can't answer all the necessary questions, you have to expect that the project is not a quality one as a project would not hire a bounty manager who does not have a good portfolio, unless the project itself is a shitty project.

[TopTort777]

What are the bounty related questions that Bounty Manager can not answer? I think there are about 10 of them and others are close by content to those 10. I guess that bounty manager must pin post with most popular questions and that will be enough. What are the usually? Bounty end date, distribution date, are reports needed and posting in local. All this can be answered once and pinned. All other questions - better PM the manager. All the questions regards the project bounty managers dont need to answer, but better send hunters to project representatives. Everything is simple.