My funds have been stolen!

[DabsPoorVersion]

If funds transferred to another unknown wallet without any action from your side mean your seed phrase or private keys have been compromised somehow. May be you have downloaded electrum from fake source or may be you have created paper wallet from fake or phishing sources. Sorry to say but it won't reverse anymore.

The day before yesterday, my wallet with physical cash was stolen, and today - the rest of my hope was cleared.

Are you sure your private key were not written on your physical wallet ? If so, then likely same guy steal your fund. Anyway don't be hopeless, somehow you will be out of this problems. Try to manage fund from offline.

Actually, there are always a case like this. Phishing sites can victim people by just copying the address. Maybe, he gathered the site without asking some veteran in using electrum wallet. I was also a victim of phishing site before but I prevented it when I verified to my mentor and he said its a wrong mew.
As of now, I am always double check the sites first before I am opening so that I am aware of the site.

This is the first time I have heard that you can become a victim of scam/phising just by copying your address. Address cannot be used to open the wallet, so I don't think until today that it is possible?
Do you have a referrence the same case as this? Because it is very alarming for everyone, if addresses is also being used then sharing it is not safe anymore.

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Is it going to somehow stop the flow of funds or recover them?
I am desperate because these funds were supposed to be for my mother's health.

I don't know why i am feeling that your whole story is a fake one and maybe it is an attempt to seek kindness and funds in the name of your mother's health. I do not see what you saying of stolen funds is real. Sorry, but i have just this feeling when i read your whole story. 

[bitcoindusts]

I didn't save the key anywhere. The string of random characters that make up PrivateKey is created using the BrainWallet method, the salt of which is the password I use, consisting of 20 characters (including special characters and numbers), so there is no chance to guess. This was done manually and offline using a tool of my own authorship. I know the mechanisms of private keys very well

So you didn't actually create your private key with Electrum? I'm just thinking out loud here, but it's kind of pointless to generate your private key offline only to later import it into a hot wallet.

I think the hole is in this scenario.  I guess OP's PC was compromised with key logger.  I also think that it is pointless to generate a private key then later to import it to hotwallet.  So I guess that import stuff is the source of all those problem.

[darkangel11]

It looks like we won't be hearing from OP. It's been days and no info. He either has some real problems or managed to somehow find the infection and link it to his missing coins.
With millions of Bitcoin users around the world if coins were disappearing like that and you could intercept someone's private key and steal everything, the Internet would be boiling.

[gundala]

I'm sorry, friend. I also know what it's like, our BTC is moving to another wallet even though it is not our control, even though we will use the funds for urgent needs. It's sad, but what else can I do? although me and you have tried your best to maintain the security of the device, nothing is really safe. And the thief can always enter through the slightest gap.
As many members explained, there is no way to cancel the transaction, it might be tracked but "they" seem to have prepared the theft well so it is not easy to track.
Hopefully, you can accept this gracefully and get a better chance soon for your mother's recovery.

[Artemis3]

Hello,
I have a crisis! I have withdrawn (for the seventh time) to my BTC wallet.
After posting the funds (and obtaining two confirmations) - there was an outgoing transaction that was not authorized by me !! The transaction was released twenty minutes after the first confirmation - to some fresh address with no transaction history and is an RBF transaction. It's exactly a transaction at 0.4BTC.
My BTC address from which the funds were stolen: 1CCEQxuUkb6RKQM4TDYbQemBVs2ihe45ps
Address to which funds were sent:
3DTjnTxjPnePfvg3haTyUQQeFK2riuZ1Fr
Unauthorized transaction ID: 2f79dda8aea3f06400be07f04f65b6045ba2e0235efa0bba0f6d9d6375da421c

The transaction is marked as RBF!
I use client Electrum 3.3.8
There is no option for someone to steal a private key from your computer because I watch security all the time!

Is it going to somehow stop the flow of funds or recover them?
I am desperate because these funds were supposed to be for my mother's health.

Let me guess, Windows? Did you never read that using insecure OSes for money handling leads to this?

The private key is not exposed, but they could: Keylog so they get the password from your wallet when you opened it, and (probably earlier) already copied your wallet out since they compromised your PC.

Yes in theory you can double spend but that has to be done too quickly, before the next block is found probably (unless they used a very low fee). To double spend you could recreate your wallet in a secure pc using your seed words and quickly send all your funds elsewhere. Of course by the time you read this is too late, this kind of thing can only be done in advance, but if you have been paying attention something like this would have never occurred in the first place.

Sorry but Bitcoin has no hand holding. When you are your own Bank, if comes with responsibilities. If you cannot trust protecting yourself, you probably need to keep paying others to protect you instead.

In an ideal world, you would have known better. That the computer to do the serious stuff, cannot be the same one you do your leisure things.

A 3rd alternative is trusting the hardware wallet manufacturers, if you cannot be bothered to use a Free and Open Source secure OS like everyone should. Hey, even if you DO use a secure OS, extra precautions are needed when handling valuables by yourself, but when you use the most insecure OS on earth, don't expect miracles.

Another possible vector would be that you had that computer compromised at wallet creation, in that case they got the seed words. This is why there is a guide out there that teaches people how to use (Linux+Tor) Tails) to create a wallet using Electrum securely.

If you search the forum you will find people had lost millions doing the same exact mistake, you are not alone.

Think of a valet parking that copies the key of your car then follows you home and steal it. Its not the car company fault that you gave the key (if temporary) to a stranger. A wallet is that, keys. Don't let it get copied by strangers... And yes, you could have chosen to go to a more secure location where you never handle your key or risk it in any other way.

[HardFacts]

Electrum is great, I use it and have never lost any BitCoins !!!  I put my BitCoins on a USB stick so that even though hackers can see my Seed Words, they still can not get my BitCoins.



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[BitcoinsGreat]

Electrum is great, I use it and have never lost any BitCoins !!!  I put my BitCoins on a USB stick so that even though hackers can see my Seed Words, they still can not get my BitCoins.



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Are you sure you want to show your seed in public ? 

[pawanjain]

While there are many reasons why this happened, I particularly think that there might be 2 major reasons why this would have happened.

1. You might be using a pirated version of the Electrum wallet. There are thousands of infected versions of wallets on the internet.
May be you just got unlucky and downloaded one of those infected versions.

2. Your system might be infected with a virus or something that gained authorization over your system and made the second transaction.

[adaseb]

For the past year or 1.5 year or so. Electrum was under major phishing attacks. Basically you would load Electrum and when you tried to send a transaction it would give you an error saying you need to download a new version. You would click that link without looking and download an authentic looking electrum version and it would steal your private keys as soon as the file was executed. This has been going on for a while. Some people got lucky and their electrum crashed so they would have to manually go to the official electrum website and find out what is going on.

I am assuming this is what happened or he got some virus or malware somehow. Visiting some shady sites or downloading some shady wallets/miner software. This is why you should always keep your BTC in cold storage so its impossible to get your coins stolen. All you do is go on the cold storage computer and just sign your transaction. Only way to keep your coins secure, that or a hardware wallet.

[carlisle1]

sad to say but your funds has been stolen and there is no chance of getting them back.

it happens to me once in the past when i used a fake site(but in another wallet and exchange)and all i do is just use it as a wake up call of downloading all important sites or Bookmarking them for future using so i may stay safer .

or maybe there are someone got into your file without noticing like friends or house mates.

[virasog]

The OP has already got the answers so I think he should lock this thread and people should stop giving more advises when he has got his understanding cleared.

Thank you for the answers ... now everything is clear to me.

[Little Mouse]

You are using a wallet which is not official. Where have yoi downloaded the wallet? Verify the app. If that's not the case, someone else have your private key or seed or your wallet file. Better you change everything.

[HardFacts]

Or Keep you BitCoins in a hardware wallet and hidden where no one can find it, so even if someone is able to see THIS, they will not be able to get your BitCoins out !
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[zielar]

Thank you very much for the fact that many of you have contributed to this topic. Not wanting to remain indebted - I think I should respond to any statements I have read here. Thank you especially to those who took the time to explain the real cause of the theft. So to sum up the recurring conclusions, tips, opinions:

1. "Use of an infected / unofficial version of the wallet": dropped out. The wallet came from the manufacturer's official website and was not updated. I do not use any intermediate pages when downloading anything (let alone a wallet application)
2. "I have my computer infected": nothing more wrong. Both before and after the disappearance of funds - no infected processes or files were present on the computer. Unless it's something that is not known to anyone (?). In any case, Malwarebytes Premium and additional Microsoft Safety Scanner tools have not detected anything, the computer is automatically updated every day, and the browser and even stupid autostart is so pedantically clean that I do not know whether additional packet transfer monitors that track traffic are also needed, because nothing has ever aroused my suspicions. I agree on the issue of your system ... it's actually WINDOWS .... 10 ... PROFESSIONAL. Also from the original ISO distribution under the original license.
3. "Physical interception of a saved key" - dropped out ... The key was not saved in writing NEVER and ANYWHERE! I entered it ONCE once using CTRL + V - five transactions before an unauthorized transaction. So the keylogger is also out, and I won't mention swapping, interception or anything else, because, as I remind you: after withdrawing funds to my stolen address - the funds were available for 30 minutes and I did not make any outgoing transaction.
4. Someone rightly stated that I was not involved in the discussion .... I now have very serious problems that are really more important for me to control than reading opinions like:
5. ... "that I will ask for donations and I will bitterly regret to pluck anyone" - those ignorant and "masters" I especially greet with the middle finger ... you will understand when someone closest to you will depend only on you. I wrote about it, as a result of the trauma that occurred on the day it happened ... Understand who will actually have the basis to feel guilty of something that has not been done, but could. I don't want anything from anyone, much less from the poor who said that.

Thank you again for your kind words and for your private inquiries that specifically target something ... I will be grateful for the leads on the sites where I can also carry out such activities, because my Google inquiries and transaction tracking came to the point where I found that mixes were made to lose track.

P.S. To the gentleman who proposed an investment in BTC (gold) for 1550 USD / oz ... - and what ... should I buy bars and mock them?

Regards

[HardFacts]

P.S. To the gentleman who proposed an investment in BTC (gold) for 1550 USD / oz ... - and what ... should I buy bars and mock them?

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Given the amount of money you have, you could NEVER afford bars, not even if you worked your entire life.    If 3000.00 dollars was a lot to lose for you, that is 2 coins that will fit in your pocket.  My suggestion was to not buy BTC, and you would never have been hacked and been much better off.

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[diazepam666]

There are two things you can confirm that if you lose your money from your desktop client. If you you give your your private key phrase to someone else or or  JSON file then anyone can access your wallet from their computer installing the standalone version of electrum. Even if you Share or lost wallet phrase the time also chance of cleaning your wallet is possible.

[Baoo]

In my opinion, your bitcoin's amount have been stolen because  your private key was not secured well and unfortunately, you have nothing to do, it is impossible to recover your funds. Accept this loss and deal with it, complaining and crying will change nothing, try to find  a way to earn BTC, there are many opportunities, just use your mind smartly. Remember that security is essential in order to make your wallet safe without it  you will get stolen again.

[Getmon]

The Solution is EASY !!!   Get these BitCoins, the real ones that cost about 1550.00 USD per ounce, and can never be hacked  
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Real ones?

If the Bitcoin is turned into a physical coin, it is not the real one. It may be viewed as a representation of the real one. The real Bitcoin is something you cannot hold with your hands.


I'm afraid the Bitcoin that you've lost, OP will be lost forever. It is stolen and it is virtually impossible to expect some good deed from the thief itself. Your lesson here is very expensive. But next time, avoid saving significant amount of BTC in hot wallets.

[Webetcoins]

The Solution is EASY !!!   Get these BitCoins, the real ones that cost about 1550.00 USD per ounce, and can never be hacked  
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Real ones?

If the Bitcoin is turned into a physical coin, it is not the real one. It may be viewed as a representation of the real one. The real Bitcoin is something you cannot hold with your hands.


I'm afraid the Bitcoin that you've lost, OP will be lost forever. It is stolen and it is virtually impossible to expect some good deed from the thief itself. Your lesson here is very expensive. But next time, avoid saving significant amount of BTC in hot wallets.

If you want to save your money in a safe wallet go for the hard wallet or cold storage wallet. They are very reliable and provide you with the ultimate security. The important pint over here is the mistake done at your part. The important keys or information related to your wallet is your responsibility, you should yourself put it in a safe place so that no thief can approach it. Carelessness done by you can give you big loses so bring improvement in yourself before investing.