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January 22, 2020, 03:52:27 PM
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It seems like a worthwhile investment, to spam tickets and hope for the best, but really. Who the hell would even hope to get a plane? I mean, its nice and all once you get it, a sense of satisfaction immediately hits you, but in the end, its a PLANE.  Hell, if you get it, maintenance already takes up a lot of money, and if someone actually wanted to get it, they'd join the raffle instead, since they have the money to buy it from another party, so why bother doing that when you can guarantee a win by buying out the tickets right?

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January 22, 2020, 04:07:39 PM
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It seems like a worthwhile investment, to spam tickets and hope for the best, but really. Who the hell would even hope to get a plane? I mean, its nice and all once you get it, a sense of satisfaction immediately hits you, but in the end, its a PLANE.  Hell, if you get it, maintenance already takes up a lot of money, and if someone actually wanted to get it, they'd join the raffle instead, since they have the money to buy it from another party, so why bother doing that when you can guarantee a win by buying out the tickets right?

Well, if you read the article, the government of Mexico needed the money so they are selling the plane. The money they will be getting will be used for the development in their country. As I said, it is not just for the chance of winning the plane but also a chance to help the country. Obviously you did not read the article the OP posted, the president will give the maintenance of the plane for year free. He also thought about those people that might win the plane and don't have the money when it comes to taking care of it. It is true that people can just hog all the lottery tickets but that is not worth it. Even if it is a plane, it is not worth it.

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January 22, 2020, 04:28:33 PM
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Seems like it's still being decided whether it is being sold or not? Seems like a nice idea for them to try though. It is going to help their country in the end, and  it is a raffle, luck still plays out in the end. Too bad its only for Mexican residents though, which could be said to be a good and bad thing since no countries could take advantage of the raffle.
Well, if you read the article, the government of Mexico needed the money so they are selling the plane. The money they will be getting will be used for the development in their country. As I said, it is not just for the chance of winning the plane but also a chance to help the country. Obviously you did not read the article the OP posted, the president will give the maintenance of the plane for year free. He also thought about those people that might win the plane and don't have the money when it comes to taking care of it. It is true that people can just hog all the lottery tickets but that is not worth it. Even if it is a plane, it is not worth it.
The other guy might be considering it in terms of a "selfish" kind of perspective. I mean, some people wouldn't know what to do with a plane tbh, and if it just sat there doing nothing, even if you got it for a few bucks, it'd still seem to be a waste right? And a year of maintenance, it ain't like you're gonna fly the plane a hundred times per year, so yea. If the Mexican Airport could accept a rent kind of thing with the winner though, it might be much more worth it/helpful.
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January 22, 2020, 06:02:29 PM
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I might also end up reselling it if I win. Or perhaps rent it. Either way, the possible winner of this lottery will most probably not own and use it. This is probably changing hands right after it is being turned over to the winner.

Since it wasn't sold in an auction, it will be difficult to resell it unless really offered it as cheap, too much lowered to its average market price. For $25, I don't mind selling it for cheap (still, that cheap price will be millions in value).

And I agree with you since the proceeds will be used in good deeds I might try my luck here for few bucks. I do play lottery here in my country on a regular basis which also the proceeds go into government needs so why should I skip that offer. Unfortunately, only limit to Mexican citizens so good luck to them.
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January 22, 2020, 06:33:33 PM
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i read that the 2 year service is free so i will use the plane for two year and then after that , i will dispose it for a much lower price so that i can easily find a buyer  . the price is negotiable but that wont hurt me too much because it can for sure cost over a million dollar .  a single million dollar will be enough for me to live for a long time Smiley

but that is all, if i win . im not expecting to win but i still give it a go and gamble some bucks for a ticket entry

Just be realistic here. Lets suppose you won a plane, what will you do ? No one knows how to fly it. You cannot keep it in your home. What would you do with it except selling it cheaply because no one will be buying it on actual price from you. All those who are thinking to invest 25$ in this lottery type scheme, should consider these things too.
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January 22, 2020, 10:33:35 PM
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Well, if you read the article, the government of Mexico needed the money so they are selling the plane. The money they will be getting will be used for the development in their country. As I said, it is not just for the chance of winning the plane but also a chance to help the country. Obviously you did not read the article the OP posted, the president will give the maintenance of the plane for year free. He also thought about those people that might win the plane and don't have the money when it comes to taking care of it. It is true that people can just hog all the lottery tickets but that is not worth it. Even if it is a plane, it is not worth it.
The other guy might be considering it in terms of a "selfish" kind of perspective. I mean, some people wouldn't know what to do with a plane tbh, and if it just sat there doing nothing, even if you got it for a few bucks, it'd still seem to be a waste right? And a year of maintenance, it ain't like you're gonna fly the plane a hundred times per year, so yea. If the Mexican Airport could accept a rent kind of thing with the winner though, it might be much more worth it/helpful.

They even consider the maintenance so I think they can also consider the release of it. If they have a problem like that, they can just sell that immediately. $10M to $20M, no problem since they got it at $25. Don't you think that that is a huge profit, right? And why would it be a waste? You got a plane for $25, that could be his fortune, we are all an investor here, think like one.

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January 23, 2020, 12:26:14 AM
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Lets do some math.

6M tickets x $25/ticket = $150M then thats already a 20M profit. Well thats how business works.

No one can stop you if you do sell out your assets/properties etc. No matter what the cause is.
Asking if i would buy a ticket? No. its better to save it up yet we do know on having out of 6M chances.

That's a super idea and i think it opens up a lot of ideas of gathering funds at a government level. By this way, the mexcian government can buy a new place and still get a 20M profit. That's a super idea provided we have 6M tickets sold. Any idea if all the tickets are not sold, will they still hold this contest or return the people's ticket ?

I do not think the lottery company will find it difficult to sell all tickets, If the event is promoted to the media, they will be very popular with local gamblers!!!  Roll Eyes Knowing that the population of Mexico exceeds 120 million people. Luck will be the influencing factor in the Grand Prix drawing Undecided
It still depends but seeing this is a Mexican presidential plane then theres no doubt that it would really be heavily known by the entire population.

Chances on sold out tickets? Highly. but we cant still be sure if mexicans would really be interested on owning but somewhat if we think of that reselling that plane once again
on winners hands would really be hard.
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January 23, 2020, 02:01:35 AM
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Silly idea to be honest.

The first thing that will happen to this plane if won is to be resold. I am quite certain this is the path the winner will choose.

I don't think it is that silly, to be honest.

People would think that their president is selling one of his luxurious priveledges for the development of their country, that would be great, isn't it? Also, if the lottery tickets are also sold out, that would give them a profit of 20M. Resold? obviously, you will get a presidential plane for $25 which real price is at $130M, it might get sold at a maximum 50M to 100M, huge profit.

What I think is silly is not the initiative of the president to get away from luxurious lifestyle and instead use the money from it to build projects for his people. I am in favor of this decision by the president. This should be emulated by all presidents in the world especially those who are leading an impoverished country. They don't have the right to enjoy all kinds of luxury when their country is suffering in poverty.

What I think is a little silly is the fact that the millions who are joining the lottery will be winning a plane. That is not easy to handle, isn't it?
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January 23, 2020, 03:10:29 AM
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What do you think would you buy a ticket?

No, as a normal citizen not being able to sell the plane to the price I want if I were to sell it is scary even with the free maintenance for two years sponsored by
the government. but  I read on another article that the Mexican president is open for the presidential plane to be traded for "$130m worth of ambulances, scanners
and x-rays for public hospitals" or "sell it to a dozen businesses, who would each chip in $11m."

the article I read: https://www.ft.com/content/a82e1640-395d-11ea-a6d3-9a26f8c3cba4

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January 23, 2020, 03:27:17 AM
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i read that the 2 year service is free so i will use the plane for two year and then after that , i will dispose it for a much lower price so that i can easily find a buyer  . the price is negotiable but that wont hurt me too much because it can for sure cost over a million dollar .  a single million dollar will be enough for me to live for a long time Smiley

but that is all, if i win . im not expecting to win but i still give it a go and gamble some bucks for a ticket entry

Just be realistic here. Lets suppose you won a plane, what will you do ? No one knows how to fly it. You cannot keep it in your home. What would you do with it except selling it cheaply because no one will be buying it on actual price from you. All those who are thinking to invest 25$ in this lottery type scheme, should consider these things too.
This is a good question because suppose you win this gigantic plane, honestly where would you keep it now?
Rent space from a airport is not cheap and you can not keep this in your backyard
I am starting to think this is nomore then just a gimmick and who knows if they will even sell 6M tickets

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January 23, 2020, 03:32:35 AM
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i read that the 2 year service is free so i will use the plane for two year and then after that , i will dispose it for a much lower price so that i can easily find a buyer  . the price is negotiable but that wont hurt me too much because it can for sure cost over a million dollar .  a single million dollar will be enough for me to live for a long time Smiley

but that is all, if i win . im not expecting to win but i still give it a go and gamble some bucks for a ticket entry

Just be realistic here. Lets suppose you won a plane, what will you do ? No one knows how to fly it. You cannot keep it in your home. What would you do with it except selling it cheaply because no one will be buying it on actual price from you. All those who are thinking to invest 25$ in this lottery type scheme, should consider these things too.

No need to make things complicated. If i were to win this lottery, i would not mind it selling the plane cheap back to the government. Remember i would only spend 25$ , so even if i sell the plane at half its price, i will still get a lot's of profit.  Smiley
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January 23, 2020, 03:36:36 AM
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No need to make things complicated. If i were to win this lottery, i would not mind it selling the plane cheap back to the government. Remember i would only spend 25$ , so even if i sell the plane at half its price, i will still get a lot's of profit.  Smiley

Indeed, owning a presidential plane isn't suitable for an ordinary people to use, it needs maintenance, and it needs parking space. Basically, if we own one of it, it will only be applicable if we are a president, or a person with a good reputation and financial status, owning a business isn't enough to pay the necessary things to maintain the plane, though, selling it with half of the price is still not good, considering the fact that we got it from 25 dollars, why not sell it at full price and maximize the profit.
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January 23, 2020, 04:02:12 AM
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i read that the 2 year service is free so i will use the plane for two year and then after that , i will dispose it for a much lower price so that i can easily find a buyer  . the price is negotiable but that wont hurt me too much because it can for sure cost over a million dollar .  a single million dollar will be enough for me to live for a long time Smiley

but that is all, if i win . im not expecting to win but i still give it a go and gamble some bucks for a ticket entry

Just be realistic here. Lets suppose you won a plane, what will you do ? No one knows how to fly it. You cannot keep it in your home. What would you do with it except selling it cheaply because no one will be buying it on actual price from you. All those who are thinking to invest 25$ in this lottery type scheme, should consider these things too.

No need to make things complicated. If i were to win this lottery, i would not mind it selling the plane cheap back to the government. Remember i would only spend 25$ , so even if i sell the plane at half its price, i will still get a lot's of profit.  Smiley

I doubt they'll buy it back again. one of the many reasons why they are selling it is to cut the maintenance fee. also, the OP said(which he probably read in the article) you won't be able to sell it on a cheaper price other than the price original price the government tend to sell it to which is $130M

That's the issue, if you won it, the gov will pay for the service for the first 2 years, after that you will have to think about how to deal with it. And if you want to re-sell you will not be able to do it under the evaluation, which means you will need to find someone who wants to buy it for $130 millions.

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January 23, 2020, 04:19:47 AM
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No need to make things complicated. If i were to win this lottery, i would not mind it selling the plane cheap back to the government. Remember i would only spend 25$ , so even if i sell the plane at half its price, i will still get a lot's of profit.  Smiley

Indeed, owning a presidential plane isn't suitable for an ordinary people to use, it needs maintenance, and it needs parking space. Basically, if we own one of it, it will only be applicable if we are a president, or a person with a good reputation and financial status, owning a business isn't enough to pay the necessary things to maintain the plane, though, selling it with half of the price is still not good, considering the fact that we got it from 25 dollars, why not sell it at full price and maximize the profit.

Who will buy the plane from you at full price. Everyone knows that you spend 25$ to get this plane and no one will buy it at a high price. Who ever will buy want to resell it, so the buyer will wish to grab it as cheap as possible.  

That's the issue, if you won it, the gov will pay for the service for the first 2 years, after that you will have to think about how to deal with it. And if you want to re-sell you will not be able to do it under the evaluation, which means you will need to find someone who wants to buy it for $130 millions.

If you do not find a buyer with $130 Million then ?   Cheesy
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January 23, 2020, 04:51:19 AM
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No need to make things complicated. If i were to win this lottery, i would not mind it selling the plane cheap back to the government. Remember i would only spend 25$ , so even if i sell the plane at half its price, i will still get a lot's of profit.  Smiley

Of course, you will make a lot of profit, but that is only if you can win on that lottery Grin

But I don't think that you can win with only spend $25 because we know that the lottery games are based on luck, so you will need to have the luck to win. I think it will not easy to sell back to the government even with cheap price because they will buy another presidential plane for their president. You need to think about selling the plane as soon as possible because you only have 2 years to get free services.
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January 23, 2020, 04:55:58 AM
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I wouldn't mind buying a ticket of course, because I know the proceeds will be used to build projects that would (hopefully) help the needy. If I win, well, I'll cross the bridge when I get there.

Even if I won it, where would I get the money to house it, maintain it, fly it, etc? I guess that I can always re-sell it :-)

I might also end up reselling it if I win. Or perhaps rent it. Either way, the possible winner of this lottery will most probably not own and use it. This is probably changing hands right after it is being turned over to the winner.

depend on whom will be the winner mate because i am sure that there are millionaires that will participate in this round imagine how huge you can win with only 25$?so maybe there are prominent people that will have interest gambling on this
I am imagining a funny situation in which the winner is an ordinary citizen and he will be awarded with the key, certificates, and other necessary documents and will be told, "All right, congratulations! You may now claim it right now. Leaving it in this terminal would cost you this amount daily." LOL!  

hahaha made me laugh lol,if ordinary person wins this?for sure all of those people in awarding ceremony will secretly offers him about buying in low cost LOL.









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January 23, 2020, 05:12:53 AM
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Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

Sources:
https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/mexico-may-raffle-off-presidential-plane-2893600/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/17/mexico-amlo-presidential-plane-raffle

@seoincorporation at first I thought the president had lost his mind, but when I read the article I realised his intentions are noble and if he succeeds in selling this plane then he’ll be able to do lots of good stuff for his country. Furthermore I would definitely be tempted to buy few tickets and hope to get lucky, because if I win I would become famous all over the globe, and I could definitely find ways to make lots of money from this plane.
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January 23, 2020, 06:15:12 AM
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No need to make things complicated. If i were to win this lottery, i would not mind it selling the plane cheap back to the government. Remember i would only spend 25$ , so even if i sell the plane at half its price, i will still get a lot's of profit.  Smiley

Of course, you will make a lot of profit, but that is only if you can win on that lottery Grin

But I don't think that you can win with only spend $25 because we know that the lottery games are based on luck, so you will need to have the luck to win. I think it will not easy to sell back to the government even with cheap price because they will buy another presidential plane for their president. You need to think about selling the plane as soon as possible because you only have 2 years to get free services.
this is more winnable than lottery itself because on raffle like this they only specific volume of tickets to sell in this case there are 6 million according to the statements so it means each ticket holders have only 6 million to compete when i Lottery there are i think billions of combinations?so the chance is much lower than winning this Plane.

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January 23, 2020, 08:59:11 AM
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Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

Sources:
https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/mexico-may-raffle-off-presidential-plane-2893600/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/17/mexico-amlo-presidential-plane-raffle


Interesting.
But why not get more people(like 130 people) to be winners of the plane? At least the winners could sell the plane and share the proceeds.

If they can sell the plane for that amount, they could split the money to the winners.130million split into 130 pieces, would be a million dollars for each winner. One million dollar for 130 players is quite a big amount for any kind of gambler.
By the way, how transparent and fool-proof is this? What is the guarantee that the plane won't be unfairly allocated to a preferred "winner"?
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January 23, 2020, 10:18:30 AM
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This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.
The main reason why he did this is pretty good because it is for their country anyways.

The only problem is that how will the winner deal with the plane. Unless the winner have a contact where he can sell it immediately then it is ok or he will just store it in a safe place until a buyer will come and buy it. Of course the Mexican president must help with what the winner wants to do with the plane.

Many people will try their luck if the plane can be exchanged to money immediately even for a lower amount or the same amount as the evaluated price of the plane if possible.

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