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January 30, 2020, 08:21:56 PM |
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Thanks for the image share! Of course this one would proceed yet the man involved on here is the president itself.He wont make any announcement if he wouldnt make it happen. It isnt a fucking joke on first read up yet these guys do have the capacity on having a presidential plane. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) The problem would be looking for buyers for the lottery tickets. $25 for a ticket is relatively expensive given the chances of one winning and the people who are willing to buy those tickets. If the owner would first sell all the 6 million tickets before starting the raffle, then I think it would take some time before the winner gets announced. It will surely takes time before those tickets would be sold out if we do talk on casual lottery ticket purchase from to its citizens but if there were big investors or businessman would tend to purchase half or 3/4 on overall tickets then this one wont took long.The advantage here is the current position of ticket seller yet he's a president and lots of people do able to know such lottery event.Lets see on how long this one would sold out.
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January 30, 2020, 11:46:04 PM |
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I know from the start it sound like a fucking joke and the last option to sell the presidential plane, but i have some news for you guys, the lotto tickets has been created... So, the plan is moving on.
Thanks for the image share! Of course this one would proceed yet the man involved on here is the president itself.He wont make any announcement if he wouldnt make it happen. It isnt a fucking joke on first read up yet these guys do have the capacity on having a presidential plane. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Wouldn't it be better if something like Air Force One is the one that they have to put in as a prize? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I wonder if people would actually buy the tickets, though the problem here is what are they going to do to that big aircraft? Even if the presidential plane of Mexico is not that big as the Air Force One but still there problem is still the same. I guess they have to resell it back to the government or put it up in auction.
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January 30, 2020, 11:53:43 PM |
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I know from the start it sound like a fucking joke and the last option to sell the presidential plane, but i have some news for you guys, the lotto tickets has been created... So, the plan is moving on.
Thanks for the image share! Of course this one would proceed yet the man involved on here is the president itself.He wont make any announcement if he wouldnt make it happen. It isnt a fucking joke on first read up yet these guys do have the capacity on having a presidential plane. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Wouldn't it be better if something like Air Force One is the one that they have to put in as a prize? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I wonder if people would actually buy the tickets, though the problem here is what are they going to do to that big aircraft? Even if the presidential plane of Mexico is not that big as the Air Force One but still there problem is still the same. I guess they have to resell it back to the government or put it up in auction. A lot of people would buy a ticket since the president of Mexico himself is asking for help. They would be using it for the country so the president is really begging for the people to buy it. I don't know but I might buy a ticket if I know where to buy one.
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January 31, 2020, 11:42:39 AM |
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It will surely takes time before those tickets would be sold out if we do talk on casual lottery ticket purchase from to its citizens but if there were big investors or businessman would tend to purchase half or 3/4 on overall tickets then this one wont took long.The advantage here is the current position of ticket seller yet he's a president and lots of people do able to know such lottery event.Lets see on how long this one would sold out.
Yes it would take time since it will be a lot of ticket, but if it would be raffle in other country I mean , it will allowed other countries to participate in that certain game I think it would be good to the seller, also, it would be easier to fill the slots and they can start the raffle right away. A lot of people would buy a ticket since the president of Mexico himself is asking for help. They would be using it for the country so the president is really begging for the people to buy it. I don't know but I might buy a ticket if I know where to buy one.
Yes, it could be one of the reason why you and also me, want to buy that ticket because we have an assurance that we may buy a ticket and won that price fairly since the president of that certain country is involved actually he is the one selling for the good of his country, so I hope we can buy also.
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January 31, 2020, 01:51:40 PM |
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A plane woth really big price and for the lucky person who win that plane I hope he is rich because having a plane you need more money because the Gasoline, maintenance, and the other parts you need to buy if they need. But for the people who win that plane if they are not rich better for them to sell it to the other people who can afford to buy that. Goodluck to the people who buy tickets best of luck to them.
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January 31, 2020, 02:17:31 PM |
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Yes, it could be one of the reason why you and also me, want to buy that ticket because we have an assurance that we may buy a ticket and won that price fairly since the president of that certain country is involved actually he is the one selling for the good of his country, so I hope we can buy also.
It seems that they are still not decided about putting the presidential plane in the lottery. It is said that the final decision will be said this upcoming February 15, we still need to wait. https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/airplane-raffle-undecided-but-tickets-designed/
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January 31, 2020, 02:59:48 PM |
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That would only be fine if I can always ride it even without my passport (Even if its only to Mexico, that would also be considered be great) ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) At first I didn't knew this would be real as far as I know it is indeed an official use from the government but to thin they would run this kind of idea, kinda insane if you ask me. It's because it's a crazy an insane decision, even though if that plane is just a $130m then their comeback will be about $150m (if only they would be able to sell all of the tickets) that's ridiculous?!
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January 31, 2020, 11:33:54 PM |
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It's because it's a crazy an insane decision, even though if that plane is just a $130m then their comeback will be about $150m (if only they would be able to sell all of the tickets) that's ridiculous?!
I know right? I know that they are having a short budget for the country but placing their presidential plane for the lottery is insane. I would like to help a country in a way but still, that is a presidential plane. I think they would be reconsidering this and make another way for them to reach the budget they wanted. They are already releasing the design of the ticket and feel worried, I don't know why.
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What do you think would you buy a ticket? Running costs make this a fairly awful idea, just the cost of renting storage space and insurance is going to be thousands as a cost as soon as the winner takes pocession. Its fine for anyone prepared but for everyone else half the stated worth because the winner immediately is in a fire sale or insolvent position of high asset low liquidity to service costs. You need to be a company to pull this off, it'd all work if the winner immediately can enter into some kind of lease agreement with an airline. Its not impossible but most people arent this organised.
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February 01, 2020, 02:31:34 AM |
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What do you think would you buy a ticket? Running costs make this a fairly awful idea, just the cost of renting storage space and insurance is going to be thousands as a cost as soon as the winner takes pocession. Its fine for anyone prepared but for everyone else half the stated worth because the winner immediately is in a fire sale or insolvent position of high asset low liquidity to service costs. You need to be a company to pull this off, it'd all work if the winner immediately can enter into some kind of lease agreement with an airline. Its not impossible but most people arent this organised. There will be no maintenance cost if you sell the plane immediately after winning it. But again you will not find many buyers for the place and the only potential buyer could be the private airline companies etc. Ordinary person could not afford to buy such an expensive plane with no use case.
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February 01, 2020, 05:49:36 AM |
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What do you think would you buy a ticket? Running costs make this a fairly awful idea, just the cost of renting storage space and insurance is going to be thousands as a cost as soon as the winner takes pocession. Its fine for anyone prepared but for everyone else half the stated worth because the winner immediately is in a fire sale or insolvent position of high asset low liquidity to service costs. You need to be a company to pull this off, it'd all work if the winner immediately can enter into some kind of lease agreement with an airline. Its not impossible but most people arent this organised. There will be no maintenance cost if you sell the plane immediately after winning it. But again you will not find many buyers for the place and the only potential buyer could be the private airline companies etc. Ordinary person could not afford to buy such an expensive plane with no use case. Are you even reading the article? It is said there that the government will be giving 1 year maintenance for the presidential plane so whether you use it or not, it will be taken care of. You should also not talk about this in advance since you are not sure if you are winning and the government of Mexico is still thinking about the lottery.
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February 01, 2020, 11:36:37 AM |
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What do you think would you buy a ticket? Running costs make this a fairly awful idea, just the cost of renting storage space and insurance is going to be thousands as a cost as soon as the winner takes pocession. Its fine for anyone prepared but for everyone else half the stated worth because the winner immediately is in a fire sale or insolvent position of high asset low liquidity to service costs. You need to be a company to pull this off, it'd all work if the winner immediately can enter into some kind of lease agreement with an airline. Its not impossible but most people arent this organised. People are going to buy a ticket because of, one the value of the prize he can always resell it at a much lower price or make a lottery out of it, or create a partnership with an airplane, and two he will go down in history as the first winner of a presidential airplane, anyway I looked at it he is a winner if I am from Mexico I'll definitely going to buy a ticket.
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February 01, 2020, 11:52:21 AM |
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People are going to buy a ticket because of, one the value of the prize he can always resell it at a much lower price or make a lottery out of it, or create a partnership with an airplane, and two he will go down in history as the first winner of a presidential airplane, anyway I looked at it he is a winner if I am from Mexico I'll definitely going to buy a ticket.
Yes If I will buy the ticket and won the prize, I will sell it in lower the price it could be, any thing could have a depreciation value, the year since it has been using and been sold , also I would sell it in airlines or maybe I would make it as a high class resto inside of it. Are you even reading the article? It is said there that the government will be giving 1 year maintenance for the presidential plane so whether you use it or not, it will be taken care of. You should also not talk about this in advance since you are not sure if you are winning and the government of Mexico is still thinking about the lottery.
I do agree with this, everyone is being interested in buying that lottery ticket , I may say that it is not yet probable to win, there is a less than 1% winning rate in that particular raffle due to many people who will buy the ticket, and still we want to grab that chance, it only cost 25$ for a million of dollars in return !, investing 25$ is not as huge when yo may win the million or billion dollar plane with maintenance and came from the president, but the problem is, does the president still wants to sell that plane?
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February 02, 2020, 04:23:40 PM |
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~ if I am from Mexico I'll definitely going to buy a ticket.
Maybe you forgot about the price of one ticket, which is $25. As far as I know, not everyone in Mexico can easily afford to lose that amount of money. And since the chance of winning is 1 in 6 million, buying a ticket almost equals to throwing the money away. That's why the price for a lottery ticket in more economically developed countries is around $2-$3, not everybody can afford spending more than that on a ticket even there, let alone in Mexico.
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February 02, 2020, 10:59:50 PM |
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Selling it wouldn't be very difficult. Many private companies need jets and I'm sure you'd be able to find a rich collector who'd take it of your hands. ~ if I am from Mexico I'll definitely going to buy a ticket.
Maybe you forgot about the price of one ticket, which is $25. As far as I know, not everyone in Mexico can easily afford to lose that amount of money. And since the chance of winning is 1 in 6 million, buying a ticket almost equals to throwing the money away. That's why the price for a lottery ticket in more economically developed countries is around $2-$3, not everybody can afford spending more than that on a ticket even there, let alone in Mexico. This is true, the price is very high for a lottery ticket and the prize isn't as good as the money. You can spend money at any moment but a plane is a burden you'll have to sell or find another use for it like a tourist attraction.
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It is said there that the government will be giving 1 year maintenance for the presidential plane
1 year is not the correct time frame to consider owning a plane so yea its nice but its not the long term solution. Great of them to allow a transition for the winner, that does make things alot easier but ultimately this question of usability has to be considered for most people as a liability to the asset. Same as owning any large asset, only houses are immediately relevant to people because they can put it to use every day personally so the effort and cost are personally justified. I'm not criticising the idea of the government to raise funds especially but its not the dream prize many imagine unless its a qualified pilot whose buying the ticket then sure maybe :p same critic would apply to the supercar lottos that are far more common, most people cant justify holding such a thing but a car is usually more disposable and a more liquid market. I'm just applying standard rules of liquidity and fungibility, part of the background to BTC value is its incredible ease of use, storage and instant liquidity day or night but this is the oppisite. In theory I'd love to be like John Travolta and own a plane like this, he lives on an airport runway and he has space by his front door to park his own plane ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F29E5uE3.jpg&t=665&c=q7A6Va8QBWYPeQ)
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Yes, it could be one of the reason why you and also me, want to buy that ticket because we have an assurance that we may buy a ticket and won that price fairly since the president of that certain country is involved actually he is the one selling for the good of his country, so I hope we can buy also.
It seems that they are still not decided about putting the presidential plane in the lottery. It is said that the final decision will be said this upcoming February 15, we still need to wait. https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/airplane-raffle-undecided-but-tickets-designed/Yep, the raffle is just an option, but the president in looking serious about this. So, looks like it will happen. The fun fact is: The Mexicans will pay double for that plain... The first time while the president buys it without taxes, and the second one with the lotto. It isn't fair. But Mexicans don't see it.
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Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.
it has been announced that the raffle is legit and will happening soon as the fabrication of tickets is now on process and may be ready sooner. This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.
this is not a crazy idea after all because he is aiming to use the money for more appropriate and functional ways since the President is not a luxurious type of person so he rather use the money in substantial ways than just this plane that he dont usually used. What do you think would you buy a ticket?
if available in my country?of course i will sure buy at least 5-10 tickets since that is the amount i can spend for this gambling that offers a very rare chances of prizes.
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I'd be tempted to buy it off. of course you have to read the fine print very carefully. 1 year service / parking space is included if I have the article correctly in my head. only few people will be able to fly with it, because it costs a lot to move such a plane. so the plan would be to win + sell it "cheaper". but if it would be so easy to sell it, it would have worked out for sure. although if you set the price at 10 million it would work out for sure... it doesn't have to be the whole 130 ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) if I had the opportunity to buy a ticket I would certainly be part of it. even though I'm almost afraid of winning ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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... if I had the opportunity to buy a ticket I would certainly be part of it. even though I'm almost afraid of winning ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I know that feeling... Is like winning a big prize but a big problem at the same time. The first year is free, but after that, this plain can ruin lives. Most of the people who win big prizes at the lottery ruin their lives, is funny because we think a lot of money can solve or life but big amounts of money come always with big problems and responsibility.
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