Win a Presidential plane...

[livingfree]

if I had the opportunity to buy a ticket I would certainly be part of it. even though I'm almost afraid of winning

Yeah, everyone will think of how to take care of that plane whenever anyone from here becomes the winner.

Most of the people who win big prizes at the lottery ruin their lives, is funny because we think a lot of money can solve or life but big amounts of money come always with big problems and responsibility.

The big pot can easily be liquidated if the winner doesn't have a background in financing or budgeting. It's sad but it's happening in real life that there really were jackpot winners that also came back to their old lives after winning a jackpot.

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[fortunecrypto]

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

It's not a crazy idea at all because the money will be funded for the projects for the people of Mexico but the thing what will the president and the future president will use they will be opted for a commercial fight now that they are putting the plane in a lottery, but whoever wins it will be put in history and will also become an instant millionaire.

[maydna]

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

It's not a crazy idea at all because the money will be funded for the projects for the people of Mexico but the thing what will the president and the future president will use they will be opted for a commercial fight now that they are putting the plane in a lottery, but whoever wins it will be put in history and will also become an instant millionaire.

Perhaps, that is their plan or strategy to get more funds for their country. The government knows that not all people have big money to maintain the plane, so they thought that if someone wins the plane, they will resell it to the rich people, or they will sell it back to the government with cheap price. The important is people who win that plane can have the money which will be still bigger. They will not think about the project or the plan that the government has because if they can win and get the money, they will be happy.

[rodskee]

It is said there that the government will be giving 1 year maintenance for the presidential plane

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  In theory I'd love to be like John Travolta and own a plane like this, he lives on an airport runway and he has space by his front door to park his own plane

is this real?John Travolta has His own planes Parking in his front doors?he made himself a hangar?damn that is pretty cool Knowing how popular John was?

but sad to say that majority of us here has no this kind of space and may not carry to handle a Plane if they are lucky to win the lottery,so i am sure it will only sell to the agent waiting in that raffle day.
if given a chance to buy a ticket even if i am not from mexico?sure i will try my luck also to at least owning a plane even in short period of time before selling to lower price.

[Ucy]

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

It's not a crazy idea at all because the money will be funded for the projects for the people of Mexico but the thing what will the president and the future president will use they will be opted for a commercial fight now that they are putting the plane in a lottery, but whoever wins it will be put in history and will also become an instant millionaire.

Perhaps, that is their plan or strategy to get more funds for their country. The government knows that not all people have big money to maintain the plane, so they thought that if someone wins the plane, they will resell it to the rich people, or they will sell it back to the government with cheap price. The important is people who win that plane can have the money which will be still bigger. They will not think about the project or the plan that the government has because if they can win and get the money, they will be happy.

The winner/winners will most likely need to sell It way below what it's claimed to be the cost... depending on the condition of the plane and its actual price in brand new condition.
 Kind of looks like a crafty way to get many people to contribute for public projects(if this's really for building new projects)

[mole0815]

you don't want to think about running costs like maintenance and service with such a machine.
the additional costs like kerosene, taxes and airport fees are enough to not want to experience a single flight

for such fun you have to be president, john travolta, abramovich or a member of the rolling stones... but then you can even upgrade to a boing 767

[STT]

The Rolling Stones have been touring for 50 years and been making a hell of alot of money for themselves and everyone who travels with them, they can fully justify even the biggest airplane and its costs and even include it in a tax deductible scheme.   Any time we have to deal with depreciating assets personally we're at a great disadvantage compared to a company and their lawyers and accountants all paid for to reduce the tax and make the operation of that asset viable.   They dont even have to make any profit, just keep pushing the losses forward every year for six years and balance it vs any tax again helping to pay for it.
   I dont think people can do that only companies, giant assets need clever heads to balance the books for all the fuel etc.    I wouldnt think of owning this plane without an excuse to include it within a limited company balance sheet.    Even a supercar I dont know, I think 1 year max then swap it for housing in some way.   Maybe I could lease the car to a club that loans them out and ditto the plane, maybe its possible if lucky and a scheme will accept your random plane

[shoreno]

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

It's not a crazy idea at all because the money will be funded for the projects for the people of Mexico but the thing what will the president and the future president will use they will be opted for a commercial fight now that they are putting the plane in a lottery, but whoever wins it will be put in history and will also become an instant millionaire.

Perhaps, that is their plan or strategy to get more funds for their country. The government knows that not all people have big money to maintain the plane, so they thought that if someone wins the plane, they will resell it to the rich people, or they will sell it back to the government with cheap price. The important is people who win that plane can have the money which will be still bigger. They will not think about the project or the plan that the government has because if they can win and get the money, they will be happy.

strategy indeed because governments can be able to buy back it on the winner in  much cheaper price plus they already earn a cash from the sold tickets  . who knows , what if they will do a re raffle again using this plane    ?  .  the cycle will just keep on repeating but who gives a sh*t with it  .  as long as we already sell the plane for some money we can now be happy and can also buy everything we wanted to have   .  the only problem is if we can win a kind of raffle like this  because its also a one in a million chance

[Betwrong]

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strategy indeed because governments can be able to buy back it on the winner in  much cheaper price plus they already earn a cash from the sold tickets  . who knows , what if they will do a re raffle again using this plane    ?  .  the cycle will just keep on repeating but who gives a sh*t with it  .  as long as we already sell the plane for some money we can now be happy and can also buy everything we wanted to have   .  the only problem is if we can win a kind of raffle like this  because its also a one in a million chance

It's one in six million, to be more precise. But I like your assumption that the government could buy it back, and then arrange a new raffle. Do you know such examples from the past, btw? If I won this plane, I'd sell it half price at the first opportunity because it's not that easy to sell something for $65 million even if the real price for it is two times higher. It would be good for me, because $65 million is still a very good money, and it would be easy to do for the government with $150 million from the previous raffle.

[carlisle1]

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It's one in six million, to be more precise. But I like your assumption that the government could buy it back, and then arrange a new raffle. Do you know such examples from the past, btw? If I won this plane, I'd sell it half price at the first opportunity because it's not that easy to sell something for $65 million even if the real price for it is two times higher. It would be good for me, because $65 million is still a very good money, and it would be easy to do for the government with $150 million from the previous raffle.

that is a very bright idea and i haven't think of that from the very beginning i read this thread but right the government can even make the raffle favor them?

there can be some leaks about this if the government cheated the people right?i almost think that buying ticket if allow other country to participate but now?i am having a doubt because of the legitimacy of this.

maybe they must be transparent on this one or else sure critics will run after them.

[Mumbeeptind1963]

It's one in six million, to be more precise. But I like your assumption that the government could buy it back, and then arrange a new raffle. Do you know such examples from the past, btw? If I won this plane, I'd sell it half price at the first opportunity because it's not that easy to sell something for $65 million even if the real price for it is two times higher. It would be good for me, because $65 million is still a very good money, and it would be easy to do for the government with $150 million from the previous raffle.

Does the plane is still on raffle? I want to join as well, I think for me it is better not to sell it, I will make it for rent, will offer it to some tourist or airline company for a lower price but for a long term rent. So that I will have even a small earnings but for a lifetime if ever. I'd rather make it that way since if I will be given a chance to won, even I bet only a 25$ it could be a big profit for me.

[seoincorporation]

It's one in six million, to be more precise. But I like your assumption that the government could buy it back, and then arrange a new raffle. Do you know such examples from the past, btw? If I won this plane, I'd sell it half price at the first opportunity because it's not that easy to sell something for $65 million even if the real price for it is two times higher. It would be good for me, because $65 million is still a very good money, and it would be easy to do for the government with $150 million from the previous raffle.

Does the plane is still on raffle? I want to join as well, I think for me it is better not to sell it, I will make it for rent, will offer it to some tourist or airline company for a lower price but for a long term rent. So that I will have even a small earnings but for a lifetime if ever. I'd rather make it that way since if I will be given a chance to won, even I bet only a 25$ it could be a big profit for me.

The Mexican president says he will define this week about the raffle. So, is almost a reality... I will post the president's decision after he decides if raffle the plain or not.

And i will try to investigate the clausules of the raffle, would be good to know what will happen if someone outside of Mexico can win the raffle.

[carlfebz2]

you don't want to think about running costs like maintenance and service with such a machine.
the additional costs like kerosene, taxes and airport fees are enough to not want to experience a single flight

for such fun you have to be president, john travolta, abramovich or a member of the rolling stones... but then you can even upgrade to a boing 767

If the winner would be just an average joe then he would definitely re-sell that plane yet as said the cost of maintenance or even running that plane wont really be cheap.

So if you do think off sensibly then it would be much wiser to sell it rather than to keep it but the first question is, would you able to win it? 

Man, its not really quite common to have these kind of prizes.

[maydna]

The winner/winners will most likely need to sell It way below what it's claimed to be the cost... depending on the condition of the plane and its actual price in brand new condition.
 Kind of looks like a crafty way to get many people to contribute for public projects(if this's really for building new projects)

That is right. With the high cost to maintain the plane after 2 years, the winner will not be able to cover the cost if they don't have much money. They will sell the plane at any price but that will not too high as the real price of that plane. But that will not happen if that winner is already a rich person and they will be happy if they have a presidential plane, and that can give them prestige among their society.

strategy indeed because governments can be able to buy back it on the winner in  much cheaper price plus they already earn a cash from the sold tickets  . who knows , what if they will do a re raffle again using this plane    ?  .  the cycle will just keep on repeating but who gives a sh*t with it  .  as long as we already sell the plane for some money we can now be happy and can also buy everything we wanted to have   .  the only problem is if we can win a kind of raffle like this  because its also a one in a million chance

Yeah, if they cannot have the plane, they can sell it to other people who want that plane. They can get money without thinking about the plane. If they can have the money, that will help them to cover their life for a long time, and perhaps, they could live from that money without the need for hard work.

I heard in here, one person already wins a car, but he confuses about how he keeps that car in his house. So he decided to sell that car to any people who want to have that car and luckily, one person came to him and offer that person to buy that car. Although the price is not too high as a new car, that person satisfies with because the money is still big money for him.

[Artemis3]

this is how simple Mexican president is,he may want to use ordinary plane when traveling than using own Plane for the benefits of His countrymen .

imagine while almost all of the president in the world wanted to have own plane but this one wanted to sell his?salute for you .


but about the raffle?i think low class people will have second thoughts of buying raffle ticket because how can they afford to maintain that kind of luxurious thing if they gonna win.

This is absolute madness and makes no sense at all. I can understand auctioning, but raffle? Most normal people would get in serious trouble real quickly even if someone were to gave them the plane for free. Maintenance fees, parking fees, paying a fortune to someone to move it or pilot it, etc. There is only a few rich elite in the world that could actually do this, or airline companies.

Besides this is the type of politician that would sell the plane only to buy a new one later. I'd say its just a publicity stunt, trying to gain popularity over ignorance.

Turns out most presidents have a private plane because it ends up CHEAPER than using commercial airliners. Not only they have to move their (often large) delegations around, they also cannot be delayed or be fighting for seats and company timetables, availability, etc. He would end chartering (which is like renting a limo vs owning a car).

Also remember than in most cases the presidential plane belongs to the country, very often the Air Force, it is NOT the president's property and shouldn't be seen as such. Whoever succeeds him would likely use it, so its more like selling a national asset. He might as well order selling a couple fighter jets instead... Not sure how the Mexican system works or if the legislative branch has anything to say about it, but its probably presidential for him to be disposing of things that don't belong to him in the first place.

Most countries in Latin-America have this cursed political system where the president has way too much power, and when a "populist" get into power, all hell breaks lose (and can end like my country with the worst hyperinflation).

[Reatim]

you don't want to think about running costs like maintenance and service with such a machine.
the additional costs like kerosene, taxes and airport fees are enough to not want to experience a single flight

for such fun you have to be president, john travolta, abramovich or a member of the rolling stones... but then you can even upgrade to a boing 767

If the winner would be just an average joe then he would definitely re-sell that plane yet as said the cost of maintenance or even running that plane wont really be cheap.

So if you do think off sensibly then it would be much wiser to sell it rather than to keep it but the first question is, would you able to win it? 

Man, its not really quite common to have these kind of prizes.

The problem is for sure most of the tickets will be bought by Businessman that has more money and wanted to have the plane in cheaper price so they would rather join the raffle then buying in directly

Yeah This is a raffle meaning everyone has a chance even you only buy 1 ticket but the higher chances when you have more tickets,and this is what the businessman's do and they tend to let this happen

We dont know if there is agreement from the president and those richest people so they can have fun and also they may have the chance owning this presidential plane.

[Assface16678]

you don't want to think about running costs like maintenance and service with such a machine.
the additional costs like kerosene, taxes and airport fees are enough to not want to experience a single flight

for such fun you have to be president, john travolta, abramovich or a member of the rolling stones... but then you can even upgrade to a boing 767

If the winner would be just an average joe then he would definitely re-sell that plane yet as said the cost of maintenance or even running that plane wont really be cheap.

So if you do think off sensibly then it would be much wiser to sell it rather than to keep it but the first question is, would you able to win it? 

Man, its not really quite common to have these kind of prizes.

The problem is for sure most of the tickets will be bought by Businessman that has more money and wanted to have the plane in cheaper price so they would rather join the raffle then buying in directly

Yeah This is a raffle meaning everyone has a chance even you only buy 1 ticket but the higher chances when you have more tickets,and this is what the businessman's do and they tend to let this happen

We dont know if there is agreement from the president and those richest people so they can have fun and also they may have the chance owning this presidential plane.

If there is a raffle and the price is so huge, I think many people most of the time the businessman will grab the opportunity to take a lot of raffle tickets because, as a nature of the person, we want to get a lot of things with a lower price. That plane was so expensive, and you take single money to take the risk, and even there is a small amount of chance still it is better to grab the opportunity. If that news releases earlier, many people will buy the ticket, but for now, we can use the ticket to make some marketing strategy like selling the price of the ticket double still many people will buy those tickets because we are expecting will be got a private plane. Still it depends on the person if they will risk their money to have a presidential plane or keep those money and make a savings to buy their private plane too.

[Betwrong]

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It's one in six million, to be more precise. But I like your assumption that the government could buy it back, and then arrange a new raffle. Do you know such examples from the past, btw? If I won this plane, I'd sell it half price at the first opportunity because it's not that easy to sell something for $65 million even if the real price for it is two times higher. It would be good for me, because $65 million is still a very good money, and it would be easy to do for the government with $150 million from the previous raffle.

that is a very bright idea and i haven't think of that from the very beginning i read this thread but right the government can even make the raffle favor them?

there can be some leaks about this if the government cheated the people right?i almost think that buying ticket if allow other country to participate but now?i am having a doubt because of the legitimacy of this.

maybe they must be transparent on this one or else sure critics will run after them.

I'm pretty sure, if they cheat it will leak sooner or later. Hopefully, they(government) know it too. But even if it was fair, I wouldn't participate with that ticket price($25). I personally don't understand the logic behind the decision to make the price of one ticket so high. Most of the lottery tickets around the world cost less than $3, and for a reason. The organizers know that they can attract more participants if the price of one ticket equals to what anyone can afford to lose.

[Lucasgabd]

what would I do with a plane?
it's expensive to mantain, probably not so liquid to sell...

thanks, but no thanks, I'd prefer having my part in bitcoin

[Twentyonepaylots]

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if I had the opportunity to buy a ticket I would certainly be part of it. even though I'm almost afraid of winning

I know that feeling... Is like winning a big prize but a big problem at the same time. The first year is free, but after that, this plain can ruin lives.

Most of the people who win big prizes at the lottery ruin their lives, is funny because we think a lot of money can solve or life but big amounts of money come always with big problems and responsibility.

I don't think the it could single-handedly ruin your life to be honest. After all it's just a plane, nothing too bad could happen to you. But the maintaining costs and all is definitely a big pain in the butt. Nonetheless, you could just easily fix this by selling the plane if ever or you can have it be rented in a local air liner for business or VIP class. In that way, you won't need to carry the burden of taking care of a luxury plane like that on your own. It's just a matter of thinking, and strategizing at the same time. You won't have to put yourself into that kind of dilemma on your own.