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February 05, 2020, 03:27:04 PM
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I don't think the it could single-handedly ruin your life to be honest. After all it's just a plane, nothing too bad could happen to you. But the maintaining costs and all is definitely a big pain in the butt. Nonetheless, you could just easily fix this by selling the plane if ever or you can have it be rented in a local air liner for business or VIP class. In that way, you won't need to carry the burden of taking care of a luxury plane like that on your own. It's just a matter of thinking, and strategizing at the same time. You won't have to put yourself into that kind of dilemma on your own.
It has been said that maintaining cost is being handled by the government for 1yr , so there will be no problem for that you just need to win that ticket and then you dont need tl worry about everything. Sell the plane after winning it, it will be okay, or just put it in a raffle again so that you will get more money, you can whatever you want once you WIN in that raffle.

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February 05, 2020, 04:22:00 PM
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I don't think the it could single-handedly ruin your life to be honest. After all it's just a plane, nothing too bad could happen to you. But the maintaining costs and all is definitely a big pain in the butt. Nonetheless, you could just easily fix this by selling the plane if ever or you can have it be rented in a local air liner for business or VIP class. In that way, you won't need to carry the burden of taking care of a luxury plane like that on your own. It's just a matter of thinking, and strategizing at the same time. You won't have to put yourself into that kind of dilemma on your own.
It has been said that maintaining cost is being handled by the government for 1yr , so there will be no problem for that you just need to win that ticket and then you dont need tl worry about everything. Sell the plane after winning it, it will be okay, or just put it in a raffle again so that you will get more money, you can whatever you want once you WIN in that raffle.

First time seeing this thread and pretty much curious about the topic, and after seeing that the OP is stating that a plane is being raffled, well it is a good thing that the maintaining cost will be provided by the government that will be a big save after getting your hands on a plane, but in my opinion, this is not for all people if a normal person could get a hands-on this plane then I think this could carry a huge burden, and this is a sure exclusive for their countrymen only because the parking lot for this plane is an airport and ones can not afford an airport of his own right? might as well sell it in an auction or donate it for a common cause.
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February 05, 2020, 10:08:53 PM
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I don't think the it could single-handedly ruin your life to be honest. After all it's just a plane, nothing too bad could happen to you. But the maintaining costs and all is definitely a big pain in the butt. Nonetheless, you could just easily fix this by selling the plane if ever or you can have it be rented in a local air liner for business or VIP class. In that way, you won't need to carry the burden of taking care of a luxury plane like that on your own. It's just a matter of thinking, and strategizing at the same time. You won't have to put yourself into that kind of dilemma on your own.
It has been said that maintaining cost is being handled by the government for 1yr , so there will be no problem for that you just need to win that ticket and then you dont need tl worry about everything. Sell the plane after winning it, it will be okay, or just put it in a raffle again so that you will get more money, you can whatever you want once you WIN in that raffle.

First time seeing this thread and pretty much curious about the topic, and after seeing that the OP is stating that a plane is being raffled, well it is a good thing that the maintaining cost will be provided by the government that will be a big save after getting your hands on a plane, but in my opinion, this is not for all people if a normal person could get a hands-on this plane then I think this could carry a huge burden, and this is a sure exclusive for their countrymen only because the parking lot for this plane is an airport and ones can not afford an airport of his own right? might as well sell it in an auction or donate it for a common cause.

Maintenance free? Its impossible.

If you wont the plane then you do have the full responsibility of it, from maintenance to fuel consumption or even the parking space. The government
has nothing to get involved with  yet its already your possession.You wont really have any choice but to resell this plane or would consider to be
put up on some sort of investment.
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February 05, 2020, 10:38:25 PM
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First time seeing this thread and pretty much curious about the topic, and after seeing that the OP is stating that a plane is being raffled, well it is a good thing that the maintaining cost will be provided by the government that will be a big save after getting your hands on a plane, but in my opinion, this is not for all people if a normal person could get a hands-on this plane then I think this could carry a huge burden, and this is a sure exclusive for their countrymen only because the parking lot for this plane is an airport and ones can not afford an airport of his own right? might as well sell it in an auction or donate it for a common cause.

The maintenance cost will be paid by the government the first year or the first 2 years, they are not sure about this decision yet, but after that, the winner will be fucked up, because the maintenance cost is just too high for a simple mortal like us.

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February 06, 2020, 07:35:18 AM
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First time seeing this thread and pretty much curious about the topic, and after seeing that the OP is stating that a plane is being raffled, well it is a good thing that the maintaining cost will be provided by the government that will be a big save after getting your hands on a plane, but in my opinion, this is not for all people if a normal person could get a hands-on this plane then I think this could carry a huge burden, and this is a sure exclusive for their countrymen only because the parking lot for this plane is an airport and ones can not afford an airport of his own right? might as well sell it in an auction or donate it for a common cause.

The maintenance cost will be paid by the government the first year or the first 2 years, they are not sure about this decision yet, but after that, the winner will be fucked up, because the maintenance cost is just too high for a simple mortal like us.
And that will lead for the winner for having no other option but to sell it back to the government or maybe to someone who has the capability to handle the expenses for this transportation vehicle.

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February 06, 2020, 08:15:16 AM
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Are they short in funds? Or in desparate need but doesn't want to loan to other countries?

Nevertheless, having a single ticket would onyl get you as far as 0.000016% of winning. Near zero value like this won't attract me that much.

Also, how are they so sure that 6M tickets would be sold? (Unless whales hoard tickets, or people there really does want a plane). Winning it also comes with another problem of selling it. Unless he is an experienced one, he might get into trouble for dealing and selling this property.



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February 06, 2020, 08:28:46 AM
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if I had the opportunity to buy a ticket I would certainly be part of it. even though I'm almost afraid of winning Grin

I know that feeling... Is like winning a big prize but a big problem at the same time. The first year is free, but after that, this plain can ruin lives.

Most of the people who win big prizes at the lottery ruin their lives, is funny because we think a lot of money can solve or life but big amounts of money come always with big problems and responsibility.
I don't think the it could single-handedly ruin your life to be honest. After all it's just a plane, nothing too bad could happen to you. But the maintaining costs and all is definitely a big pain in the butt. Nonetheless, you could just easily fix this by selling the plane if ever or you can have it be rented in a local air liner for business or VIP class. In that way, you won't need to carry the burden of taking care of a luxury plane like that on your own. It's just a matter of thinking, and strategizing at the same time. You won't have to put yourself into that kind of dilemma on your own.

I would choose the selling route and use the fund for things I am really good at. Most likely things that I will do well in that benefit more people and are "profitable"... than from renting out the plane to benefit probably, few private jet users.
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February 06, 2020, 09:03:50 AM
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First time seeing this thread and pretty much curious about the topic, and after seeing that the OP is stating that a plane is being raffled, well it is a good thing that the maintaining cost will be provided by the government that will be a big save after getting your hands on a plane, but in my opinion, this is not for all people if a normal person could get a hands-on this plane then I think this could carry a huge burden, and this is a sure exclusive for their countrymen only because the parking lot for this plane is an airport and ones can not afford an airport of his own right? might as well sell it in an auction or donate it for a common cause.

The maintenance cost will be paid by the government the first year or the first 2 years, they are not sure about this decision yet, but after that, the winner will be fucked up, because the maintenance cost is just too high for a simple mortal like us.
And that will lead for the winner for having no other option but to sell it back to the government or maybe to someone who has the capability to handle the expenses for this transportation vehicle.

Either way, that would be the case.

Also, I don't think we should even worry about this since the government of Mexico is still thinking about this lottery. The percentage of winning is low but the fact that the money I will be paying will be used for the good of their country, I will still buy a ticket.
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February 06, 2020, 09:44:42 AM
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That's a lot of money, if he manage to sell those ticket for $25 each he'd get 150M but those average citizens wont probably be interested because they have to spend money to store it, maintenance and pay a pilot to fly it and you'll only get 1 in 6M chance to win it. Why not just do a bidding with airline companies to raise and to sell it much more easily or collect proper taxes from business in their state and eliminate drug cartels that's destroying their economy.

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February 06, 2020, 09:48:35 AM
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That's a lot of money, if he manage to sell those ticket for $25 each he'd get 150M but those average citizens wont probably be interested because they have to spend money to store it, maintenance and pay a pilot to fly it. Why not just do a bidding with airline companies to raise and to sell it much more easily.


it has already come to bidding but there are no interesting to the amount targeted to be sold in which i believe is 120 million,and even US president Trump deny to Buy the plane that is why Mexican Government comes to this Idea to make a raffle in which will favor them as well because they only target 120 in selling/bidding but in this raffle they can gather 150$ as what you mentioned.

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February 06, 2020, 01:25:04 PM
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That's a lot of money, if he manage to sell those ticket for $25 each he'd get 150M but those average citizens wont probably be interested because they have to spend money to store it, maintenance and pay a pilot to fly it and you'll only get 1 in 6M chance to win it. Why not just do a bidding with airline companies to raise and to sell it much more easily or collect proper taxes from business in their state and eliminate drug cartels that's destroying their economy.


the idea of selling to airline companies is definitely better.
I talked about ho stupid would be to buy an airplane if you can't mantain it on an earlier post on this topic.

regarding eliminating drug cartels: politicians have skin in the game and earn with the prohibition, only effective way to end the war on drugs (which is really stupid, btw), is legalizing and decriminalizing.

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February 06, 2020, 02:29:46 PM
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Are they short in funds? Or in desparate need but doesn't want to loan to other countries?

Nevertheless, having a single ticket would onyl get you as far as 0.000016% of winning. Near zero value like this won't attract me that much.

Also, how are they so sure that 6M tickets would be sold? (Unless whales hoard tickets, or people there really does want a plane). Winning it also comes with another problem of selling it. Unless he is an experienced one, he might get into trouble for dealing and selling this property.

I don't know if they are really short in funds but I read that the Mexican president hates or doesn't like boarding a private jet or plane. Surprisingly he boards common planes from airlines and not his private plane. As far as I know a family voluntarily get out of the llane since they didn't want to be with the president as it may be dangerous for their children. Not literally the president but because of the people that takes photos with him and that might cause an incident.

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Even if I won it, where would I get the money to house it, maintain it, fly it, etc? I guess that I can always re-sell it :-)
That is the idea if you win the plane it is obvious you are not going to have any way to keep it but you can be sure that different airlines through the world will be looking for you and offer you a good price for the airplane, when you take into consideration all the factors it is not a bad deal, it is obvious the chances of winning are low but if you do you could easily solve your life in an instant and even if you do not you will be participating in one of the most interesting raffles ever.

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February 06, 2020, 04:09:47 PM
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So let's do the maths.

6 million tickets * $25 = $150 million. You can buy these plans brand new for $120 million, so his used one is probably worth more like $75 million.

That's a 50% return to player rate, absolutely terrible IMO.

Also, who in the hell wants the presidential plane? They'll just sell it straight away and likely have nowhere to even park it. I expect this will completely fail.





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February 06, 2020, 06:20:43 PM
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I find some interesting lines into this article.https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/mexican-president-wants-to-raffle-off-his-plane/

Mexican president do make such lottery or raffle to distract from Mexico's record homicide rate and violence and also this,
It says the ticket fee of $25 will go toward medical equipment and hospitals offering free care for the poor.

Do you really buy on that reason?

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February 06, 2020, 06:39:35 PM
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I find some interesting lines into this article.https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/mexican-president-wants-to-raffle-off-his-plane/

Mexican president do make such lottery or raffle to distract from Mexico's record homicide rate and violence and also this,
It says the ticket fee of $25 will go toward medical equipment and hospitals offering free care for the poor.

Do you really buy on that reason?


If this really happens and all the collected money goes in a good cause, there is nothing better than that. The idea of Mexican president is not only interesting but also it made many people surprised that such an idea could come from the president house.  Smiley

Do anyone knows, has this lottery been started and when the draw will be done ? I would really love to know how many people participated and who was the lucky winner.

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February 06, 2020, 06:46:06 PM
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I find some interesting lines into this article.https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/mexican-president-wants-to-raffle-off-his-plane/

Mexican president do make such lottery or raffle to distract from Mexico's record homicide rate and violence and also this,
It says the ticket fee of $25 will go toward medical equipment and hospitals offering free care for the poor.

Do you really buy on that reason?


If this really happens and all the collected money goes in a good cause, there is nothing better than that. The idea of Mexican president is not only interesting but also it made many people surprised that such an idea could come from the president house.  Smiley

Do anyone knows, has this lottery been started and when the draw will be done ? I would really love to know how many people participated and who was the lucky winner.


This is indeed a nice way to get money to help a country collect funds without losing anything in reality and the plane will be bought back with profit. When people will know that the amount collected will be used to help the poor and the needy, many will join the lottery, even they had no interest in the prize.
Don't know about the exact date but i read 15 Feb.
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He said he’ll make a final decision on the drawing Feb. 15.
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I find some interesting lines into this article.https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/mexican-president-wants-to-raffle-off-his-plane/

Mexican president do make such lottery or raffle to distract from Mexico's record homicide rate and violence and also this,
It says the ticket fee of $25 will go toward medical equipment and hospitals offering free care for the poor.

Do you really buy on that reason?


If this really happens and all the collected money goes in a good cause, there is nothing better than that. The idea of Mexican president is not only interesting but also it made many people surprised that such an idea could come from the president house.  Smiley

Do anyone knows, has this lottery been started and when the draw will be done ? I would really love to know how many people participated and who was the lucky winner.


This is indeed a nice way to get money to help a country collect funds without losing anything in reality and the plane will be bought back with profit. When people will know that the amount collected will be used to help the poor and the needy, many will join the lottery, even they had no interest in the prize.
Don't know about the exact date but i read 15 Feb.
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He said he’ll make a final decision on the drawing Feb. 15.
Its said that he would still make the final decision on Feb. 15 not the actual drawing and also to put up some good quote from the president.

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He said the money from the sale of the presidential aircraft could be put to better use helping the country’s poor.

“Money is the mother and father of the devil,” he said. “I don’t want any families destroyed because (the plane) is worth more in goods, and I don’t want to carry that guilt because I am responsible.”
If said money would be fully intended to help the poor then its really a good cause.

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February 06, 2020, 10:31:13 PM
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I find some interesting lines into this article.https://nypost.com/2020/02/03/mexican-president-wants-to-raffle-off-his-plane/

Mexican president do make such lottery or raffle to distract from Mexico's record homicide rate and violence and also this,
It says the ticket fee of $25 will go toward medical equipment and hospitals offering free care for the poor.

Do you really buy on that reason?


If this really happens and all the collected money goes in a good cause, there is nothing better than that. The idea of Mexican president is not only interesting but also it made many people surprised that such an idea could come from the president house.  Smiley

Do anyone knows, has this lottery been started and when the draw will be done ? I would really love to know how many people participated and who was the lucky winner.


This is indeed a nice way to get money to help a country collect funds without losing anything in reality and the plane will be bought back with profit. When people will know that the amount collected will be used to help the poor and the needy, many will join the lottery, even they had no interest in the prize.
Don't know about the exact date but i read 15 Feb.
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He said he’ll make a final decision on the drawing Feb. 15.

I doubt he will sell out 6 million tickets by then, so he will probably end up giving the plane away for a lot less than it's worth.

It would have been much more efficient to simply sell the plane at an auction, to a chart company or even an airline company.

He would probably have raised more money that way, and hence made more money to pour into healthcare/schools etc.
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February 06, 2020, 11:29:32 PM
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Mexico could raffle his presidential plane, the idea is to sell 6M tickets of $25 dollars each one, and the winner gets a presidential plane evaluated in $130 million.

This crazy idea is because the Mexican president wan to sell the plane to spend the money on other projects.

What do you think would you buy a ticket?

Sources:
https://robbreport.com/motors/aviation/mexico-may-raffle-off-presidential-plane-2893600/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/17/mexico-amlo-presidential-plane-raffle
Well, for me this is a sort of easy way to raise a funds to spend to other projects a good intention for the president. By doing math the total amount of the sale for the presidential plane would a huge profit, and i'm thinking about who are willing to to buy that ticket to take their chance to win the plane.

If ever, i would only buy one ticket for it and if i won, selling it is the best option for me i don't even think about using it its a luxurious plane and costly when it comes to maintenance selling it and use the money to spend onto other things would be a great idea. I knew some other will going to buy many tickets to have a better chance they can afford it.
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