Why are americans accusing their lefties of communism for open borders?

[KingScorpio]

soviet union had borders more protected than even stupid eu with almost no borders to turkey, eu is even helping migrants to pass the mediterannian,

entire european union's society is being destroyed by greed private corporations that lobby more and more foreigners into the country.

It actually doesn't make much sense from any standpoint that 'private corporation are the driving force behind policies which would 'destroy' the Western European nations.  And I've seen no real evidence that that is the case.  On the other hand, U.S. and Israeli operations (esp, the creation and support of so-called ISIS) created a lot of the refugee supply, and a bunch of so-called 'NGO groups' have been doing the transport of these 'displaced persons.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53A5AJoRxF0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrLt5q0SxI  Some of that good 'ol stage managed rescues in this one.  Lol.

One hypothesis is that segments within the Jewish world WANT Jews to be hated and despised all around the globe and don't really seek to hide their genocide in 'their land' and interference operations within other nations.  They want and need 'anti-semitism' and seek to create it at every opportunity.  The simple reason for this is that they want/need a re-population of the so-called 'promised land' by the so-called 'chosen people' to fulfill certain of their prophecies/fantasies.  Yet another set of purges here and there would be just the ticket.

I honestly don't remember seeing any Talmudic/Kabbalahistic person stating the aforementioned strategy in a totally blunt manner, but some of them have come mighty close.  If I were one of the 95% of Jews who is just a normal person I would be terrified of what the radical Jews are up to and working hard(er than I already do) to see the project wither on the vine.  An attempt is unlikely to end well for anyone.

private corporations use their money to lobby for open borders so they can exploit the masses of cheap immigrant labour, the rich then blend in with the immigrants marry them, so they look like them, while in the meantime betraying their own countrymen. thats how it works in germany, i saw that with my own eyes, thats how they see how nationalsocialism without communist socialism is supposed to work.

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private corporations use their money to lobby for open borders so they can exploit the masses of cheap immigrant labour, the rich then blend in with the immigrants marry them, so they look like them, while in the meantime betraying their own countrymen. thats how it works in germany, i saw that with my own eyes, thats how they see how nationalsocialism without communist socialism is supposed to work.

Bring some examples please.  I have seen 'captains of industry' pay lip-service to a lot of the agenda items of 'globalism', of which population movements are one, but there are all kinds of reasons why that would happen.  The 'boots on the ground' actually implementing the policies don't seem to have direct funding ties to global corporate entities that I know of.

I've been paying attention to politics for some time.  Only a few decades ago immigration was indeed a 'big business' thing and fairly obviously it was for the purposes of bringing down wages like you say.  'Liberals' were anti-immigration.  That shifted notable and relatively suddenly along with a lot of other policies.  Sadly a healthy percentage of 'Liberals' did a 180-degree about face with their policy directors without missing a beat.

Anyway, with modern globalization where you can bring most work to the cheapest labor, industry really doesn't need 'cheap labor'.  It actually makes more sense to have discrete nations with different economics and different policies.  Lumping everyone into a state of 'equity' will work very much against those who's business model involves playing the 'labor spread'.

Both logic and observation indicate to me that the goal of 'open borders' is 'deeper' than some profit maximization scheme.  On the other hand it is pretty much an exact match for the prophesies/fantasies of one certain group in particular.  In might be simple coincidence that it is this same group who are very very over-represented in making 'open borders' a reality.  Or it might not.

[KingScorpio]

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private corporations use their money to lobby for open borders so they can exploit the masses of cheap immigrant labour, the rich then blend in with the immigrants marry them, so they look like them, while in the meantime betraying their own countrymen. thats how it works in germany, i saw that with my own eyes, thats how they see how nationalsocialism without communist socialism is supposed to work.

Bring some examples please.  I have seen 'captains of industry' pay lip-service to a lot of the agenda items of 'globalism', of which population movements are one, but there are all kinds of reasons why that would happen.  The 'boots on the ground' actually implementing the policies don't seem to have direct funding ties to global corporate entities that I know of.

I've been paying attention to politics for some time.  Only a few decades ago immigration was indeed a 'big business' thing and fairly obviously it was for the purposes of bringing down wages like you say.  'Liberals' were anti-immigration.  That shifted notable and relatively suddenly along with a lot of other policies.  Sadly a healthy percentage of 'Liberals' did a 180-degree about face with their policy directors without missing a beat.

Anyway, with modern globalization where you can bring most work to the cheapest labor, industry really doesn't need 'cheap labor'.  It actually makes more sense to have discrete nations with different economics and different policies.  Lumping everyone into a state of 'equity' will work very much against those who's business model involves playing the 'labor spread'.

Both logic and observation indicate to me that the goal of 'open borders' is 'deeper' than some profit maximization scheme.  On the other hand it is pretty much an exact match for the prophesies/fantasies of one certain group in particular.  In might be simple coincidence that it is this same group who are very very over-represented in making 'open borders' a reality.  Or it might not.

do you live under a rock?`

american farmer outcry after trump closed the border,
german automaker trying to hire from outside the EU
salvini tried to close italian border, and got sued

[tvbcof]

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do you live under a rock?`

american farmer outcry after trump closed the border,
german automaker trying to hire from outside the EU
salvini tried to close italian border, and got sued

These are all solutions (labor spreads) are things which would not exist for corporate business after globalization has homogenized the worlds populations and societies via open borders.  [You can (and should) argue that it won't matter much as automation takes over.]

The winners would be the people who control the largest corporations at the time of a 'flip' to centralized economic control since they would step into those positions in the new regime.  It seems that there is ample evidence that indeed, some of these people are the most active in furthering the globalization project.  To a degree they use the resources of the corporations they control (and build new corporations) to do this, but it's not the main vehicle they use as I see it.  They use governments (through lobbying, Epstien-esque methods, etc) and NGOs, and especially the combination of the two.

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At a deeper (and to me much more interesting) level, it seems the case that their will be a homogenization and centralization of control.  It's going to happen, folks, and about all we can hope for with distributed crypto-currencies is that they attenuate some people's flexibility in certain ways.  The question is who will be in charge of 'it' (aka, the 'new world order')?  There are two main factions as I see it:

 - Resource based.

 - Debt based.

The resource based folks favor smaller and more controlled populations;  'their' resources will go farther and they can induce artificial scarcity more effectively.

The debt-based crowd are better served by larger populations; there are more potential debt-slaves, and said debt slaves need the 'freedom' to most effectively service the debt that they've been saddled with.

Although highly simplified and inaccurate, these two groups could be represented by Rockefeller and Rothschild respectively.

The resource-based group has been out of the driver's seat since territory/feudalism times and the rise of modern banking, but they've had plenty of capability to set up for a recapture and have been working on it diligently for about 100 years.  (The 'global warming' hoax is a minor and current artifact of their labors.)  The debt-based crowd have more recently seen the danger and dug in for the fight (and Trump is a minor artifact of their reaction.)

The dynastic wealth, and even the primary combatants themselves to a large degree, have put bets on both sides.  I suspect they will try for a sharing agreement since both sides are guaranteed a pretty big slice of pie (game theory.)  They'll always be jockeying for an upper hand though, and ready to completely slit the throat of the other side if the opportunity presents itself.

[KingScorpio]

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do you live under a rock?`

american farmer outcry after trump closed the border,
german automaker trying to hire from outside the EU
salvini tried to close italian border, and got sued

These are all solutions (labor spreads) are things which would not exist for corporate business after globalization has homogenized the worlds populations and societies via open borders.  [You can (and should) argue that it won't matter much as automation takes over.]

The winners would be the people who control the largest corporations at the time of a 'flip' to centralized economic control since they would step into those positions in the new regime.  It seems that there is ample evidence that indeed, some of these people are the most active in furthering the globalization project.  To a degree they use the resources of the corporations they control (and build new corporations) to do this, but it's not the main vehicle they use as I see it.  They use governments (through lobbying, Epstien-esque methods, etc) and NGOs, and especially the combination of the two.

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At a deeper (and to me much more interesting) level, it seems the case that their will be a homogenization and centralization of control.  It's going to happen, folks, and about all we can hope for with distributed crypto-currencies is that they attenuate some people's flexibility in certain ways.  The question is who will be in charge of 'it' (aka, the 'new world order')?  There are two main factions as I see it:

 - Resource based.

 - Debt based.

The resource based folks favor smaller and more controlled populations;  'their' resources will go farther and they can induce artificial scarcity more effectively.

The debt-based crowd are better served by larger populations; there are more potential debt-slaves, and said debt slaves need the 'freedom' to most effectively service the debt that they've been saddled with.

Although highly simplified and inaccurate, these two groups could be represented by Rockefeller and Rothschild respectively.

The resource-based group has been out of the driver's seat since territory/feudalism times and the rise of modern banking, but they've had plenty of capability to set up for a recapture and have been working on it diligently for about 100 years.  (The 'global warming' hoax is a minor and current artifact of their labors.)  The debt-based crowd have more recently seen the danger and dug in for the fight (and Trump is a minor artifact of their reaction.)

The dynastic wealth, and even the primary combatants themselves to a large degree, have put bets on both sides.  I suspect they will try for a sharing agreement since both sides are guaranteed a pretty big slice of pie (game theory.)  They'll always be jockeying for an upper hand though, and ready to completely slit the throat of the other side if the opportunity presents itself.

globalisation will never homogenise, soon enough, there will be rich and poor segregating everything, also religious and national dna will continue, for through homogenisation it is now time to diversify nonwhite nonwestern countries like china, india and africa