I sincerely apologize to everyone

[cryptoaddictchie]

Accepting mistake is one criteria for maturity. Indeed what you are doing is somehow get the attention of other members since you are driving users to view certain website for traffics. But I often saw your post and actually its helpful to gain some news but to avoid such conflict with forum, this is a good move mate. This will not make you a shame person IMO but became a true user who do accept mistake and learn from it. Dont worry for other users here as you can see, we understand you and keep you heads up high.

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[Bttzed03]

Hey man, we've had some discussions in our local board if you still remember but that was before you started working for that site. I had to put you on ignore when you've been creating a lot of topics with beincrypto links.

Anyway, I've always thought you were a decent user and can contribute more to the forum. It feels refreshing to see you make a topic without any links 

[d.kevin29]

Accepting mistake is one criteria for maturity. Indeed what you are doing is somehow get the attention of other members since you are driving users to view certain website for traffics. But I often saw your post and actually its helpful to gain some news but to avoid such conflict with forum, this is a good move mate. This will not make you a shame person IMO but became a true user who do accept mistake and learn from it. Dont worry for other users here as you can see, we understand you and keep you heads up high.

Well said. My goal when researching an account isn't to get it excluded from the community or forum. It's actually the complete opposite - I want to integrate them better in this community and help them create valuable posts & truly care about what they're writing here. I'm aiming to give the users who are doing this kind of stuff a chance to change and a little poke to wake them up. Actually, I've prepared a draft thread called "The Quarantine" exactly for this purpose but I'm still wondering whether it's a good idea to publish it or not because it would require a ton of work.

[UserU]

Actually, I've prepared a draft thread called "The Quarantine" exactly for this purpose but I'm still wondering whether it's a good idea to publish it or not because it would require a ton of work.

A lil' off-topic but speaking of that, the name seems to coincide with the current Wuhan virus epidemic  

[hd49728]

About mistakes. There are some kinds of mistakes: forgivable and unforgivable (at least we feel unforgivable).

- Forgivable: that is what the forum treats rule-broken users with temp bans. They have second, and third chances for forgivable and minor mistakes.
- Unforgivable: that is what the forum treats seriously rule-broken users with permanently bans. They mostly don't have chance to come back with that permanent banned accounts. Exceptions are only for very positively net-effect users and they are very very rarely to see.

Fortunately, the admin allows users to create accounts. The permanent banned accounts are banned as person, not as user, it means when one account get permanent banned, the others of the same person will be temp-banned too (if detected with evidence). Fortunately, I see admin has not yet permanently banned IP addresses so permanent banned user can create their others on same IPs (the list of unofficial rules don't show such very strictly bans). I think it is unofficial forgiveness (I could be wrong).

- Forgiveness: Often people make fairly small mistakes, but then they seemingly get red-trusted for life. This isn't really fair, and it discourages participation due to paranoia: if you think that you have a 1% chance of running afoul of some unwritten rule and getting red-trusted for life, you might just avoid the marketplace altogether. Red trust should mostly be based on an evaluation of what the person is likely to do in the future moreso than a punishment/mark-of-shame.

[cheezcarls]

Hey man, we've had some discussions in our local board if you still remember but that was before you started working for that site. I had to put you on ignore when you've been creating a lot of topics with beincrypto links.

Anyway, I've always thought you were a decent user and can contribute more to the forum. It feels refreshing to see you make a topic without any links 

That's one of my goals right now, to create helpful and meaningful topics of my own without those same links. I am committed to create helpful topics and advice this time, and giving value as well.

I'll take it one day at a time until I'm finally getting used to it.

[PrimeNumber7]

What did you do?

Spamming the forum while adding links to his external articles probably with the aim of trying to generate traffic to his website

Check this thread for more details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217092.

Good for the OP. Those kinds of posts are net harmful to the forum because they equate to advertising spam, but I don't foresee anything substantial being done about the posts in question.

Hopefully the OP will think twice the next time he is considering making a quick buck (or coin) for doing something ethically suspect. 

[d.kevin29]

Good for the OP. Those kinds of posts are net harmful to the forum because they equate to advertising spam, but I don't foresee anything substantial being done about the posts in question.

Hopefully the OP will think twice the next time he is considering making a quick buck (or coin) for doing something ethically suspect. 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we wouldn't have a problem with this kind of threads as soon as the user shows interest in the subject and posts on the forum regularly other things than advertisement.

It would've been a different story if between advertised threads & posts there were usual posts (this one is an example of it). Not sure if you get it. His account was filled up with ads only, and that's what became a problem for me. When an user starts posting 2-3 threads a day with promoted links (I'm not sure if cheezcarls did this, I am speaking generally), it becomes spam especially if the user has no involvement in the thread afterwards.

I get what some are trying to say: it's not a very big of an issue if an user does this, right? Well, this might not be a problem now but a long term problem becomes possible. What if suddenly 10% of the active members started promoting links? 1 out of 10 posts would probably be a link right under a quote. Would that be healthy for the community & forum?

[hilariousandco]

I'm aware that I'll be gone for good if I do such same style of posts again. I know there will be no second chances.

It wouldn't have been a perma ban just a temp one as a warning, but this is why I like to give a PM warning first as many will heed that and often-times people aren't aware of certain rules, but don't worry about it and thanks for the apology.

[o_e_l_e_o]

I get what some are trying to say: it's not a very big of an issue if an user does this, right?

Speaking generally here and not specifically about cheezcarls:

I have no issue with users sharing news stories, articles, blog posts, etc. which are interesting and they wish to discuss. There are two things I do have an issue with. Firstly, users who do this every day or even multiple times a day. It's a very easy way to boost your post count and get paid from a signature campaign, with minimal original thought or effort required. Copy the first paragraph, copy the link, then just reword a sentence or two from the article or ask "What do you guys think?". 30 seconds, job done. It's low effort spamming, and topics like this just attract more spammers and rarely develop in to an interesting discussion.

Secondly, users who either own the site they are shilling, or are being paid/hired by the site. This is a discussion forum, not an advertising platform. Abusing it for your own gain, much like bounty spammers, is both selfish and detrimental to the forum.

Usually both of these behaviors - spamming and being paid - coincide.

Looking at cheezcarls' posts over the last 24 hours, the difference is night and day. Thank you. Unfortunately there will be plenty more threads like this, and most users won't be motivated to change their ways like cheezcarls has.

[Thekool1s]

I deserve and accept this shame, but instead of giving up or letting myself down, I'm ready to move forward and start being a better member of this community.

Apology accepted and No dude you are not being shamed! We have all let down ourself in one way or another. I personally have nothing against you, it's just that we get a lot of spam here which makes the reading experience terrible for other users. A warning isn't a terrible thing either... I will tell you my story, Back in the day we used to get placed in SMAS blacklist ^{( Signature managers against spam )} for spamming... It was a nightmare for shitposters... I got placed in it by @Lauda for the good! Some times we need to be slapped to wake up and get our shit together. Once you made it to that list coming out was tough work... You weren't allowed to participate in the signature campaigns managed by them So you are still in a far better situation than the rest of us were!

People treat Bitcointalk as some sort of online money making website... It's not! It's a private forum for discussing bitcoin and blockchain. People get blacklisted for the very reason that they see bitcointalk as an opportunity to make Easy money! Start treating it as a forum and you won't land yourself in any trouble...

Just like @o_e_l_e_o I don't have a problem with news stories, articles etc... Some people have compared your links with @Hydrogen but there is a striking difference between the posting style... @Hydrogen engages in his threads which he creates as I have said many times before and his articles are sourced from different websites... Just look at how many threads @Hydrogen has started in the last couple of month and then compare it to what @Cheezcarls was doing. The intent behind sharing the articles becomes clear as day... It was always the intent which was in question, not the link/articles themselves...

Anyway, it's about time this chapter closes... Hope the lessons are learned and we can move on to better things.

[LoyceV]

First and foremost, I would like to sincerely apologize to the mods and the entire community for what I've been doing in this forum.
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I have made a promise to him not to do such things like this again in the forum.

I'm aware that I'll be gone for good if I do such same style of posts again.

Cool story! I almost believed it. Too bad your next "service" is to facility one of the worst kind of spammers this forum has seen: text spinning plagiarism:

Hello everyone!

I am offering an article spinning service to the community for free. Can spin into different variations.

Here’s a sample paragraph:

Original (my own article)

If you’re somebody who bought the dip around $3k-$4k+, your holdings are now more than double in value. However, if you‘re a day trader, you might be lucky to get a quick good profit with this one. But for a long-term holder who is aiming for something more, patience is your biggest test and might gonna get more in months or years from now. Crypto trading is all about taking and managing your risks, so I suggest you only put an amount that you can afford to lose in today’s market condition.

Spintax version

If you're {somebody| someone} {who| that} {bought| purchased| got| acquired} the dip around $3k-$4k+, your holdings are {now| currently} {more than| greater than} {double| dual} in {value| worth}. { {However| Nevertheless| Nonetheless}, if you're a day {trader| investor}, you {might be| may be| could be} {lucky| fortunate} to {get| obtain} a {quick| fast} {good| great| excellent} {profit| revenue| earnings} with this one. | If you're a day {trader| investor}, you {might| may| could} be {lucky| fortunate} to {get| obtain} a {quick| fast} {good| great| excellent} {profit| revenue| earnings} with this one. } { {But for| However, for| But also for} a {long-term| long-lasting| lasting} {holder| owner} {who| that} is {aiming for| going for} something {more| much more| a lot more| extra}, {patience| persistence| perseverance} is your {biggest| most significant| greatest| largest} {test| examination} {and| as well as| and also} {might| may| could} gon na {get| obtain} {more| even more} in months or years from {now| currently}. | For a {long-term| long-lasting| lasting} {holder| owner} {who| that} is {aiming| intending} for something {more| much more| a lot more| extra}, {patience| persistence| perseverance} is your {biggest| most significant| greatest| largest} {test| examination} {and| as well as| and also} {might| may| could} gon na {get| obtain} {more| even more} in months or years from {now| currently}. } Crypto trading is {all about| everything about} taking {and| as well as| and also} {managing| handling} your {risks| dangers| threats}, so I {suggest| recommend} you {only| just} {put| placed} an {amount| quantity} that you can {afford| pay for| manage} to {lose| shed} in today's market {condition| problem}.

Spinned version (one of many variations, 98% uniqueness)

If you're someone that purchased the dip around $3k-$4k+, your holdings are currently greater than double in worth. However, if you're a day investor, you may be lucky to get a fast excellent earnings with this one. For a long-term holder who is aiming for something more, persistence is your greatest test and also might gon na get even more in months or years from currently. Crypto trading is everything about taking and also handling your threats, so I suggest you just placed a quantity that you can manage to shed in today's market problem.

Note: Before publishing the spinned article, make sure you check it first on Copyscape or any plagiarism checker. If you are uncomfortable with a word or phrase in a particular sentence, feel free to edit.

I would really appreciate an honest feedback or review from you guys after the result.

I’m also accepting donations in BTC or ETH in case you want to.

(full post quoted as reference).

[LFC_Bitcoin]

People have done & continue to do far worse things on this forum. You didn’t scam anybody, nobody was deceived & lost any money so chill.

Don’t get too apologetic, you didn’t kill anybody. Nice to see you care about your account, so much so that you addressed it here & apologised. It’s nice to see, I’m glad nobody gave you negative trust.

It’s not too late for you to become a valuable poster here. This is the place to be for bitcoin lovers, put on your big boy pants, forget this episode & get on with your life, bro.

 

Edit - Too much faith in humanity. Loyce just caught him offering a plagiarising / text spinning service.

Cretin!

[stompix]

Cool story! I almost believed it.

Something is totally wrong around here!

A few weeks ago a guy came to meta to brag how he got ranked up, and how he earned merit, giving advice and thanking members, turn out he was a plagiarist and ban evader. Now, cheezcarls came and started with another "mea culpa", ask for forgiveness, promises he will change his way, we start feeling good for him and ...this shit happens

I saw the topic in the new list, read the title, thought "yum yum" some reporting to do, saw the username....mindfuck!

It’s not too late for you to become a valuable poster here.

Oh yes, it's too late! That ship has sailed and already sunk!

[cheezcarls]

First and foremost, I would like to sincerely apologize to the mods and the entire community for what I've been doing in this forum.
~
I have made a promise to him not to do such things like this again in the forum.

I'm aware that I'll be gone for good if I do such same style of posts again.

Cool story! I almost believed it. Too bad your next "service" is to facility one of the worst kind of spammers this forum has seen: text spinning plagiarism:

Hello everyone!

I am offering an article spinning service to the community for free. Can spin into different variations.

Here’s a sample paragraph:

Original (my own article)

If you’re somebody who bought the dip around $3k-$4k+, your holdings are now more than double in value. However, if you‘re a day trader, you might be lucky to get a quick good profit with this one. But for a long-term holder who is aiming for something more, patience is your biggest test and might gonna get more in months or years from now. Crypto trading is all about taking and managing your risks, so I suggest you only put an amount that you can afford to lose in today’s market condition.

Spintax version

If you're {somebody| someone} {who| that} {bought| purchased| got| acquired} the dip around $3k-$4k+, your holdings are {now| currently} {more than| greater than} {double| dual} in {value| worth}. { {However| Nevertheless| Nonetheless}, if you're a day {trader| investor}, you {might be| may be| could be} {lucky| fortunate} to {get| obtain} a {quick| fast} {good| great| excellent} {profit| revenue| earnings} with this one. | If you're a day {trader| investor}, you {might| may| could} be {lucky| fortunate} to {get| obtain} a {quick| fast} {good| great| excellent} {profit| revenue| earnings} with this one. } { {But for| However, for| But also for} a {long-term| long-lasting| lasting} {holder| owner} {who| that} is {aiming for| going for} something {more| much more| a lot more| extra}, {patience| persistence| perseverance} is your {biggest| most significant| greatest| largest} {test| examination} {and| as well as| and also} {might| may| could} gon na {get| obtain} {more| even more} in months or years from {now| currently}. | For a {long-term| long-lasting| lasting} {holder| owner} {who| that} is {aiming| intending} for something {more| much more| a lot more| extra}, {patience| persistence| perseverance} is your {biggest| most significant| greatest| largest} {test| examination} {and| as well as| and also} {might| may| could} gon na {get| obtain} {more| even more} in months or years from {now| currently}. } Crypto trading is {all about| everything about} taking {and| as well as| and also} {managing| handling} your {risks| dangers| threats}, so I {suggest| recommend} you {only| just} {put| placed} an {amount| quantity} that you can {afford| pay for| manage} to {lose| shed} in today's market {condition| problem}.

Spinned version (one of many variations, 98% uniqueness)

If you're someone that purchased the dip around $3k-$4k+, your holdings are currently greater than double in worth. However, if you're a day investor, you may be lucky to get a fast excellent earnings with this one. For a long-term holder who is aiming for something more, persistence is your greatest test and also might gon na get even more in months or years from currently. Crypto trading is everything about taking and also handling your threats, so I suggest you just placed a quantity that you can manage to shed in today's market problem.

Note: Before publishing the spinned article, make sure you check it first on Copyscape or any plagiarism checker. If you are uncomfortable with a word or phrase in a particular sentence, feel free to edit.

I would really appreciate an honest feedback or review from you guys after the result.

I’m also accepting donations in BTC or ETH in case you want to.

(full post quoted as reference).

I have already requested to delete it. I guess my mind isn't careful enough. It's on me.

I am not perfect but believing about room of improvement. Mistakes like this happens okay? I only try thinking about some ideas, but I guess I'm not ready yet.

Thank you and I apologize for this matter. I don't expect anyone to believe me anymore. I'm just trying to do something, but I believe mistakes like this would only teach me lessons. I'm trying okay, and I accept my wrongdoings.

It's like me being a student who failed and makes mistakes many times but continue to grow and learn. I know I'm not the only one here who makes mistakes like this, but I don't want to compare myself to them who just keep doing the same mistake and not heeding the warning.

I wanna move on and continue this journey to be better. It's not easy for me, but I want to be better day by day no matter how many roadblocks I have faced. I offer no excuses for myself.

I am thankful for you guys for being real and straightforward towards me, even if it hurts. Being disciplined is something that I really need and I can tolerate that, and I am thankful for the admins, mods and the community for doing this to me. I really do, I mean it motivates me once more to be better.

Because for me, it shows you guys really cared about my behavior and I am so thankful. I am committed to take my journey day by day in becoming better and better.

Happy Lunar New Year to all!

[notblox1]

Whats up with all the apologizing topics?
This reminds me of something:

Conor McGregor - I want to take this chance to apologize...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Szj21arytU

[o_e_l_e_o]

-snip-

Sigh. This reminds me of the times I merit a good newbie, get suspicious that the newbie is "too good", and then 5 minutes and a few web searches later, end up reporting them for plagiarism.

Given that plagiarism is a permaban, surely giving away a tool to facilitate plagiarism should be a similar punishment?

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Oh FFS!

Just read back and Loyce has caught him offer a plagiarising service now. Just after I typed a nice complimentary post out, encouraging him too.

[LoyceMobile]

Mistakes like this happens okay?

No, not really. It shows the wrong intentions, and that's something that can't be taught here.

It's as if you've missed the crucial lessons on right and wrong. If you can't figure that out on your own, you can't be helped.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Mistakes like this happens okay?

No, not really. It shows the wrong intentions, and that's something that can't be taught here.

It's as if you've missed the crucial lessons on right an wrong. If you can't figure that out on your own, you can't be helped.

What’s next?

‘Oh damn, I didn’t mean to PM people asking for their private keys’.