Disadvantage of Quick merit earn method.

[The Cryptovator]

Suddenly came on mind about quick merit earn method & outcome. Since most of newbies away from meta/reputation so I wonder to share on this board. When you will see this case, then you will realized the point that about what I am talking. Anyway I will try to explain briefly.

Above mentioned user got red tag from multiple DT members due to spin/plagiarize post from some other sources. And I believe that tags are appropriate since that guy admitted himself about spin or plagiarism. He had copied from other articles and likely spin or change some words by himself. That's totally against forum rules. You are not allowed to make plagiarized post.

The most dangerous and abusive behaviour is, he gave some answers of pre-planned questions. That means, he prepared question and answer by himself, he made post (questions) by his alt or by friend's accounts and  immediately answered before someone else. By this way he gained lots of merits. Even me, I have sent him merits since I had not looked deeply about posting time. However somehow his shady behaviour has been exposed and got multiple tag.

Here is the lesson for all over forum user especially for newbies. That means that guy want to gain merit so quickly for rank up. But remember every quick method is harmful especially on this forum. You may realized even on your real life, short cut or quick method for anything is harmful.

There no way earn merit by quick method, in a result your account will be worthless. Because forum people is to intelligent than you. So there is no very easy way to skip such behaviour that I mentioned above.

Just be a decent users, create unique post with your own idea, you can search or study from other source but you are not allowed to spin or plagiarize from others. So many users rank up by their hard work, so you should do same. Learn as much you can and share your best experiences and knowledge with this community. I am quite sure community will reward you somehow.

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[Perkjeff]

There are so many ways to earn merit.

My case for example. I have 25 posts and 17 merits. Why? Because I interact with people, making jokes, answering questions, etc..
We don't need to grab some stuff from elsewhere and post here to earn or prove something.

We are on a board/forum and the main goal of forum is interact each other, sharing ideas, opinions...

If I need an article, I will google it and, off course, I will ask if I can't find something. This is why we are here after all. To learn and teach and share thought about different subjects. Not only to read about them.

But I think people forget how important the concept of community is to concentrate about posting a lot of topics. There are so many topics where OP don't even look at replies  

Slowly, carefully, you will reach your goal  

[CryptoYar]

You rightly said, such a method is wrong.
The one who runs fast falls at the end. who walks slowly also travels more.

[Kimi80]

There are so many ways to earn merit.

My case for example. I have 25 posts and 17 merits. Why? Because I interact with people, making jokes, answering questions, etc..
We don't need to grab some stuff from elsewhere and post here to earn or prove something.

We are on a board/forum and the main goal of forum is interact each other, sharing ideas, opinions...

If I need an article, I will google it and, off course, I will ask if I can't find something. This is why we are here after all. To learn and teach and share thought about different subjects. Not only to read about them.

But I think people forget how important the concept of community is to concentrate about posting a lot of topics. There are so many topics where OP don't even look at replies  

Slowly, carefully, you will reach your goal  

Oh do not show off here, please. More than half of your merits were given by the same member Halab, it more smells like cheating rather than clear game.
Maybe I am wrong and I even hope for that, but I do not believe that it is possible to earn merits just by making jokes and answering questions. In this case everybody would take merits easily.
I think to earn merits you need to spend like minimum 15 mins to write a comment, to it would be long and maximum informative. Add to that I noticed that posts with pictures and graphics earn merits in the most of cases.

[Perkjeff]

Oh do not show off here, please. More than half of your merits were given by the same member Halab, it more smells like cheating rather than clear game.
Maybe I am wrong and I even hope for that, but I do not believe that it is possible to earn merits just by making jokes and answering questions. In this case everybody would take merits easily.
I think to earn merits you need to spend like minimum 15 mins to write a comment, to it would be long and maximum informative. Add to that I noticed that posts with pictures and graphics earn merits in the most of cases.

Halab is moderator on French Local Board and he is Merit Source. Please respect him, and me at the same time, avoiding wrong accusations.
As I said, there are different ways to earn them. You can have another opinion, I respect that. But some courtesy is always appreciated.

[Jawhead999]

People always want the instant method. They don't know about the process, waste so much time, and learning hard. The target is only want to get quick rank up to able participate bounty campaign to get money. As we know this is techology era, so many people wanted to find the best and the fast earn money. After knowing this forum, they will search to get money from it. Then, making the instant cheating way to get it.

[Taskford]

People always want the instant method. They don't know about the process, waste so much time, and learning hard. The target is only want to get quick rank up to able participate bounty campaign to get money.

It's totally a waste of time to find a easy process to get a merit that's why many users here indulge with trading/selling merits to rank up easily but end up their account compromise and got a red trust as per OP list indicated. Maybe low rank users should take all organically since if you do a hard work for it for sure you will enjoy the every single merits you will earn when posting and helping people here.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I hope the perpetrator eventually learnt a lesson about trying to cheat through the system. You will finally be caught, it doesn't matter when. He wasted all that time trying to rank up and now his account is rendered useless and can't be trusted by any sane member in the forum.

[Findingnemo]

Newbies who are concentrating to earn merits from their first post have chances of being involved in such shady activities and they are not really newbies in most of the cases. But not every newbie who earned more merits in a quick time is abusing the system for example nullius, he is extremely knowledgeable and gets attention from forum members very quickly due to his technical knowledge about cryptos.

[ReiMomo]

There are too many ways to abuse the merit system, they are very hungry on it just to have in a different way. Most cases I have been observed are eventually on local they are exchanging each other. Maybe they had already built a good relation, something friends or co-workers. If they are alt giving merit to each other they will not long last I guess. Of course, they will probably run out of merit to spend.
There are obvious giving of merit from those greed people that easily to be busted.

[Upgrade00]

It's not a quick merit earn method, rather it's an unethical means of earning merits on the forum and should be discouraged (through the DT system). Spin plagiarism is against the forum rules and is punishable by a permanent ban. There is no rule against answering pre planned questions but it's an unethical practice and falls under the ambits of the trust system.

To gain merits, make the effort to research, accept criticism and learn from it as well.

[UserU]

Oh wow, that guy now has 3 negative flags? That really escalated quickly!

Didn't expect a newbie to suddenly shoot all the way up to Full Member but it did raise a little suspicion.

Guess TMAN's not gonna get his refund

[ryzaadit]

Oh do not show off here, please. More than half of your merits were given by the same member Halab, it more smells like cheating rather than clear game.
Maybe I am wrong and I even hope for that, but I do not believe that it is possible to earn merits just by making jokes and answering questions. In this case everybody would take merits easily.
I think to earn merits you need to spend like minimum 15 mins to write a comment, to it would be long and maximum informative. Add to that I noticed that posts with pictures and graphics earn merits in the most of cases.

So we can send merits to the same user went we found a post/thread was made by him is really interesting? talking about merits should talk/discuss the topic he received the merits. If sending merits to the same user was a problem, then "merits source" gonna get a big problem.

Did you know, WO thread you can earn merits with jokes/memes and nobody cares about the circulation transaction merits there. Everyone can freely send his merits to which post he was like, and the joke still one of them. Same users or not as long they not abused merits by sending to his alt/buying merits from other people or his real friend its not a problem, but sending merits to non-valuable posts was very unfortunate/wasting the merits.

Long/short post it doesn't matter as long was valuable, contributive, helping/solved some other problem and relate to the topic itself.

[hatshepsut93]

There's nothing wrong with earning merits fast on its own, I've seen some low-rank members who have more merits than activity or even posts - this happens when a person is extremely knowledgeable of Bitcoin and makes good posts that demonstrate their knowledge.

What you are describing is cheating the merit system and breaking many rules of the forum, so no wonder it gets people banned and results in red trust. I think the person that you shows as an example fully realized that they were up to no good, they just thought they will get away with it. Still, newbies can sometimes break rules without realizing it, like when they copypaste articles - so it's important to learn the rules of the forum first.

[hd49728]

If a poster does  not buy merits that help him to get merits quickly, merits naturally come very randomly.

Randomly because it depends on how many users read that post and how many of them have smerits left in their accounts. Sometimes I personally like one post because it is helpful but I don't have any smerit left, 0 or only 0.5. Honestly to say, if I don't merit one post immediately when I read and like it, I mostly forget about that post and rarely to come back to give merit to it.

Hence, merits might come to poster fastly at big amount or come very sparsely with very small amount.

[Ryker1]

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There no way earn merit by quick method, in a result your account will be worthless. Because forum people is to intelligent than you. So there is no very easy way to skip such behaviour that I mentioned above.

Well, I guess there is but it is once in a year. The 10th year bitcoin and the forum celebration contest that made by theymos there a lot of forum members who ranked up. For me, --that was a quick method of gaining merit if you know how to make your own art masterpiece.
Indeed, I agree with you that it will become a worthless account once it is busted by DT members and investigators in this forum. They are very intelligent in fiding shady and malicious activity in the forum.

Indeed, this thread of yours will help those newbies that wanted to rank fast in a quick way but improper of getting merit. They should learn first and keep helping others via posting constructive posts.

[plvbob0070]

It's normal to aim for merits and wanting to rank up but cheating and violating the rules is not fair. I didn't expect that he's smart enough to think of doing that with pre-answered questions. But other members here are way more smarter to notice it, which is good. Just like what I have said before, merits are for those who deserves it. It takes time and efforts to earn merits. Do not rush things, it's better to work things the hard way and use your skills and knowledge to earn merits.

Just want to add that if you're going to make a thread, add the links of your sources of the articles to avoid plagiarism. You can share that article here in the forum. You can paraphrase it, just include the link and give your insights as well.

[Kimi80]

Halab is moderator on French Local Board and he is Merit Source. Please respect him, and me at the same time, avoiding wrong accusations.
As I said, there are different ways to earn them. You can have another opinion, I respect that. But some courtesy is always appreciated.

Pardon. I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings. Well, in my message you can see that I stayed some place for being wrong.

It's normal to aim for merits and wanting to rank up but cheating and violating the rules is not fair. I didn't expect that he's smart enough to think of doing that with pre-answered questions. But other members here are way more smarter to notice it, which is good. Just like what I have said before, merits are for those who deserves it. It takes time and efforts to earn merits. Do not rush things, it's better to work things the hard way and use your skills and knowledge to earn merits.

Just want to add that if you're going to make a thread, add the links of your sources of the articles to avoid plagiarism. You can share that article here in the forum. You can paraphrase it, just include the link and give your insights as well.

As I see the forum is full of people who do not afraid to report any suspicious moves and mods do their job.
That's why there are so many newbies here, who were registered in 2019 year - they cheated and thought nothing will happen. So now they try to start from the beginning to not loose such nice source of income and promotion. But in the most of cases they cheat again, because with rank of newbie you can't do almost nothing here.

[guigui371]

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Oh do not show off here, please. More than half of your merits were given by the same member Halab, it more smells like cheating rather than clear game.
Maybe I am wrong and I even hope for that, but I do not believe that it is possible to earn merits just by making jokes and answering questions. In this case everybody would take merits easily.
I think to earn merits you need to spend like minimum 15 mins to write a comment, to it would be long and maximum informative. Add to that I noticed that posts with pictures and graphics earn merits in the most of cases.

Hey dude, why are you so salty ?
Yes you are wrong, Halab is the only merit source the french board has.
He is always fair and only give merit to people and post that deserve them, even he disagree with the people or the content.
I've been there 6 years + and he is the most respectable mod we had.

But maybe you are salty because you only earned 2 merit in more than 4 months !
And even your 2 merits were "begging" in a giveaway board.

You don't  need a 15min post to earn merit, you need usefull information, constructive argumentation.
Sometime one or 2 lines can be enough.

[dkbit98]

I saw so many merit abuse that it made my question everyone and change the way I sent merit.
Many want to upgrade their ranks just to make it for some next bounty, so they use alt accounts for this,
or something OP wrote here, with asking stupid questions and pretending like they don't know something.