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January 25, 2020, 01:16:47 AM
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Exciting month ahead. Time to show what we have built. Imagine being bearish on BSV

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$BSV
- Government compliant
- Aims to work with existing establishments
- Closest protocol to the Original Bitcoin
- Scales
- Apps can be built on top of it
- Videos and images, on chain forever
- Actually utilized
- Works within law

https://www.bsvdevs.com/

An article of Favorite Apps on the BSV Chain that work NOW and TODAY: https://bryandaugherty.net/my-favorite-metanet-applications-tools-and-ways-to-earn-use-bitcoin/

https://twetch.app is an example of on-chain scaling at $BSV. Not on $BTC.  Imagine an ad free environment in Apps. The power of pre-payments also shifts to the buyer instead of the vendor simultaneously lowering costs and improving the content. Twetch App is approaching 10,000 users.

Twetch describes itself as a decentralized social network that lets you own your data & earn money for your content. DM their twitter account for access to private beta & sign up at http://twetch.com

https://twitter.com/twetchapp

UptimeSV is Distributed, crowdsourced network intelligence. The first network intelligence service to collect real, verifiable user data and pay nodes for doing so, in realtime.

https://uptimesv.com/

Tokenized is the easiest and safest way to issue, manage and trade security and utility tokens on the Bitcoin SV network.

 Money Button is a wallet that grants you access to the BSV blockchain of the bitcoin network. It is completely non-custodial, so you are in charge of your keys, coins and financial sovereignty! Money Button works wonderfully as a peer-to-peer payments tool with a simple, functional interface, and a very easy-to-learn interface: Enter an address and slide to pay. Simple. Human-readable addresses and handles!

https://www.moneybutton.com

Build your City on Chain!
https://cityonchain.com/

An example of low fees on BSV:
PS how crazy is this:  
$10 between 200 people, fee of approx 3c (at 1sat/byte)
391 outputs.
Nuts. Just crazy,
And.... it is going to get WAYYY cheaper.
https://twitter.com/riverish333/status/1220824688366059523



Why build on Bitcoin SV?

Bitcoin SV is Bitcoin with the original protocol. It can be used for money, but also as a development platform.

Creative developers and entrepreneurs are taking advantage of Bitcoin SV's unique capabilities to build amazing businesses and products. They're choosing BSV because:

    A stable protocol decentralizes power and enables builders to focus on long-term goals, like creating better customer experiences
    Large blocks allow Bitcoin to scale to handle the world's traffic
    Microtransactions enable entirely new classes of business models

Bitcoin SV is ready for what you want to build—the only limit is your imagination.


I think in hindsight BSV will be the obvious winner of the protocol wars.

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So what are Bitcoin SV’s key differentiators?

UTXO vs Account-Based Global State

Bitcoin uses the “unspent transaction output” (UTXO) model of accounting for the ledger, while blockchains like Ethereum utilize an account-based model. In short, the Bitcoin UTXO model is very simple to account for, and it allows massive parallelization of processing across the network. Complex functions can be pushed to the stack of available scripts which allow various types of virtual machines to function on top of transactions, but the base protocol layer is very simple and clean to settle—especially when transactions are malleable and unconfirmed transactions can be trusted to settle without being double spent.

This is crucial: the bitcoin UTXO model allows reorganization of blocks to have little to no weight in the settlement of unconfirmed transactions or the state of applications running in script.

Therefore, a closely connected, UTXO-based, small world network like Bitcoin SV, never hits a scaling ceiling. Speed and reliability will improve indefinitely as miners cooperate more closely with shared mempool management standards and increased containerization of node functions.

On the other hand, Ethereum (and many other blockchains like it) utilize an account-based system that is far less flexible, less scalable, and more prone to breakdown. Every new block must be settled on every single node to confirm the consensus of the entire global state. Rather than utilizing script atop a simple protocol, the entire Ethereum network is one big computer. It was designed from the ground up to utilize a non-standardized programming language called “Solidity” in order to deploy a largely untested Turing-complete state machine to the world.

The global state model creates many problems

Poorly written smart contracts can cause breakdown of the entire network because of the interconnectedness of all states of the machine. Bugs in smart contracts, multisignature wallets, dapps and other parts of the Ethereum ecosystem have made for large scale theft, permanent hard fork splits of the network and a host of other catastrophes. The exponential complexity of Ethereum compared to bitcoin has also allowed talented hackers to work their way across dapps and steal staked ETH from smart contracts by moving laterally across the network.

On top of the security and complexity issues for deployment, the biggest burden on Ethereum is that complex computations take time, and therefore Ethereum has a very low ceiling of scalability. As such, the introduction of proposals for “sharding” “proof of stake” “Ethereum 2.0” and “Plasma Network” have been floating around for years, but there is little evidence that any of these proposals are anything more than vaporware.

In short, the UTXO model is nimble and secure, while the account or global state model is cumbersome and prone to multiple vulnerabilities.

So Ethereum can’t scale, but why is Bitcoin SV better than other UTXO chains?

This is going to sound tragically simple, but Bitcoin SV is the only project in the history of UTXO blockchains to be brave enough to take the training wheels off. While every other blockchain is ruled by developers endlessly debating theories, the BSV Genesis protocol removed nearly every single limitation of the software to facilitate boundless scale as a data carrier and payments network with more superlatives than any other chain.

The Superlatives

• No Block Size Limit: The only limit to the number of transactions per block is the ingenuity of miners to attempt to mine and propagate blocks to the network.

• Higher Data Limits: Data per block is unbounded, and the data per transaction is best-in-class too!

• Network Topology: Nodes are miners, and any node that is not contributing more than it is taking from the network will get kicked off eventually. Incentives choose which nodes thrive, and the only nodes that thrive are those that cooperate best with the network by bringing the hardest competition. Every other network has an altruistic view of nodes, and that altruism signals their doom.

• World Class Development: Rather than giving the code to everyone on earth to tinker with on GitHub, Bitcoin SV is developed professionally by the Bitcoin SV Node Team in coordination with nChain and CoinGeek Mining. Furthermore, code audits are not mired by years of low-value debate, but handed from the Bitcoin SV Node Team to professionals like Trail of Bits to do paid security audits. The code is published as open source for transparency, but the development and testing phase is purely professional.

• The nChain Patent Portfolio: nChain owns over 200 granted, 800 filed and 1400+ patents in the pipeline; making them the #1 intellectual property owner in the blockchain space. These patents can be used in court against infringing competitors in the future.

• Legal Compliance: Bitcoin SV is the only chain in compliance with the protocols of the bitcoin white paper without encumbrances or compliance issues in regard to laws pertaining to digital signatures, currency issuance, securities/equities and other regulations around token issuance and proof of work.

Meanwhile, there are fewer than ten other actively developed UTXO blockchains in the top 50 coins by market cap. The other projects have either cultural problems or technical problems (most have both) that have led to roadblocks which have knocked them out of the running for use as a world class payments or data carrier tool.

Best examples of ‘competitors’

• BTC Core only allows about six megabytes of data per hour across the network. The scripting language has been truncated and transaction malleability has been removed. As such, BTC is not even attempting to compete in this arena, so it is not a consideration for data or payment usage at a useful scale. By default, Litecoin also fails on this front as it is a very closely developed sister project to Bitcoin Core. It is a common axiom for people to refer to BTC as “gold” and LTC as “silver,” and as such, the economies around both projects are not interested in much more than the speculative asset price.

• The Lightning Network is hailed as the solution du jour to all of BTC and LTC’s scaling woes, but there are so many problems that they are hard to parse down. In short, Lightning Network reintroduces multiple sybil attack surfaces and the Byzantine Generals Problem. It also has multiple game theory issues as there is no profit motive to run a node. Participation in the Lightning Network either requires an unusual amount of trust or a high water mark of technical prowess and infrastructural investment – again without profit motive. Furthermore, all Lightning nodes are likely money transmitters which require licensing and insurance to operate legally which is unfeasible because – for the third time – there is no profit motive inherent in participating in Lightning Network. As such, Lightning Network is not really a competitor to Bitcoin SV and introduces no competitive advantages to BTC or LTC.

• BCH was a promising project for about a year, but the introduction of Canonical Transaction Ordering (CTOR) and Schnorr Signatures has removed its functionality as a reliable timestamp server and bitcoin-style chain of digital signatures. With the further loss of malleability, many of its capabilities in higher level deployment of applications is also reduced. The developers replaced some of those functions with new Op_codes that work differently, but the use-cases have been very specifically targeted at payment functions, and the Bitcoin Cash community has eschewed anything to do with data services. The developers from Bitcoin ABC (the de facto reference implementation of Bitcoin Cash) have also ceased nearly all research into parallelized processing and block size scaling, and instead have created a rift with Bitcoin Unlimited and Bitcoin.com. This has led to little more than Bitcoin Cash’s culture being defined primarily by discord and bickering, so it is hard to estimate where the project is even attempting to move long term.

• The other UTXO-based blockchains in the top 100 by market cap are probably not worth mentioning—so I won’t.

What about EOS, Tron or the other smart contract platforms?

The best way to describe any of the other smart contract platforms is that they are just variations on Ethereum. Rather than proof of work, most utilize a proof of stake or delegated proof of stake model. Some may utilize slight variations of “gas” for contract deployment or have faster block times. They typically have centralized validator node ownership and protocol governance. While some of them have quality virtual machine tools or allow development with simpler language like JavaScript, they all have gaping imperfections.

The superlatives inherent in these platforms must most often be tempered against the fact that consensus is chosen by an oligarchy that printed their token out of thin air. Tron, for example, is almost completely centralized in the hands of their controversial CEO Justin Sun. Meanwhile, EOS has reversible transactions because of their DPoS governance model and use of a sort of “supreme court” that can go back and choose new rules by decree. IOTA introduces ternary (instead of binary) code, and pushes all transactions through a central validator node called “the coordinator,” and there are a million things to lambaste about Ripple and Stellar’s emission and consensus models controlled almost entirely by their internal corporate “validators.”

So who is competing with Bitcoin SV?

This is going to be a hard, red pill for “ThE bLoCkChAiN cOmMuNiTy” to insert, but the only real competitors for Bitcoin SV are a mix of the global payment networks, data carriers and cloud computing platforms. It’s true: Bitcoin SV has leveled up to the point where its only competitors are the big players competing alongside Visa, Mastercard, Verizon, Comcast, Microsoft Azure and Amazon AWS.

Every other blockchain is mired in a scaling war, governance fiasco or has some other deep, fundamental flaw with its culture or technical architecture. As such, Bitcoin SV should not be grouped in as a “blockchain project” in perpetual beta mode. Rather, Bitcoin SV should be analyzed uniquely as a world-class, emergent business tool on the cusp of revolutionizing data and money transfer for the global economy.

Any other key differentiators?

Of course! Bitcoin SV has some of the most unique and insightful tools being built atop it by talented developers utilizing the unique properties of the blockchain.

Planaria Corp, Twetch, HandCash, Moneybutton, UNISOT and many others have flocked to the first blockchain that rewards them for their tenacity! Long dead are the days of debating who is allowed to transact on-chain because Bitcoin SV is designed to handle everything that can be thrown at it. 

But, the most important differentiator, and the thing that enables all of this grandeur, is the fixed protocol. Bitcoin SV is set in stone with unlimited scaling abilities. What that means for businesses is that they can rely on the blockchain not to break or shift beneath them. This is why we have seen a mass exodus of entrepreneurs come to Bitcoin SV from Ethereum, EOS, Tron and elsewhere. It is also why global businesses seeking reduced transaction friction and increased data integrity are taking a look at the first “finished” blockchain as a commodity ledger and enterprise business tool.

You might not know it yet, but we have already won.
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January 25, 2020, 03:21:45 AM
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It seems like the general sentiment of people on the forum here is that they're tired of the price manipulation that's been going on with it lately. More than likely, this is going to keep happening and more and more people are going to get tired of it and abandon the project all together. If they keep operating how they've been operating with the lies and deceit, then I just don't see BSV going anywhere in the future. No matter how strong the project really is.
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$BSV
- Government compliant
- Aims to work with existing establishments
- Closest protocol to the Original Bitcoin
- Scales
- Apps can be built on top of it
- Videos and images, on chain forever
- Actually utilized
- Works within law

Is there a law that states Bitcoin SV is being accepted and is legal while the rest of the cryptocurrencies are not?

Actually utilized? The original Bitcoin is more utilized.

Closest protocol to the Original Bitcoin? That means it is not the original Bitcoin. Is that an admission?  Grin

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January 25, 2020, 03:47:13 PM
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This is such a joke. What is BSV being used? For scamming? I mean, wtf seriously. If anyone is so blind they can't see what is going on then I am really starting to doubt human race.. This is one big feud that is going to end up in courts and the guy behind it will be a clown and meme forever. There should be huge red alert against this coin and It is beyond my imagination how anyone would want to waste time upon it. It is not preferred solution for either cash or dapps. It is just bad at what it's supposed to be doing and only reason is the media shitstorm created by the man..
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January 25, 2020, 03:59:57 PM
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Huh ?
U crazy enough to believe it happen, or u actually crazy saying BSV will be the obvious winner of the protocol wars.
or u get a bsv trap by buying it on the high price.

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January 25, 2020, 04:26:30 PM
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This is such a joke. What is BSV being used? For scamming? I mean, wtf seriously. If anyone is so blind they can't see what is going on then I am really starting to doubt human race.. This is one big feud that is going to end up in courts and the guy behind it will be a clown and meme forever. There should be huge red alert against this coin and It is beyond my imagination how anyone would want to waste time upon it. It is not preferred solution for either cash or dapps. It is just bad at what it's supposed to be doing and only reason is the media shitstorm created by the man..

You all literally retards

BSV has more txns / per sec than the other two protocols combined clearing showing higher utility

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January 25, 2020, 04:37:27 PM
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This is such a joke. What is BSV being used? For scamming? I mean, wtf seriously. If anyone is so blind they can't see what is going on then I am really starting to doubt human race.. This is one big feud that is going to end up in courts and the guy behind it will be a clown and meme forever. There should be huge red alert against this coin and It is beyond my imagination how anyone would want to waste time upon it. It is not preferred solution for either cash or dapps. It is just bad at what it's supposed to be doing and only reason is the media shitstorm created by the man..

You all literally retards

BSV has more txns / per sec than the other two protocols combined clearing showing higher utility


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January 25, 2020, 04:51:20 PM
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$BSV
- Government compliant
- Aims to work with existing establishments
- Closest protocol to the Original Bitcoin
- Scales
- Apps can be built on top of it
- Videos and images, on chain forever
- Actually utilized
- Works within law

Is there a law that states Bitcoin SV is being accepted and is legal while the rest of the cryptocurrencies are not?

Actually utilized? The original Bitcoin is more utilized.

Closest protocol to the Original Bitcoin? That means it is not the original Bitcoin. Is that an admission?  Grin

Yes. BSV is not the original but its the closest protocol to the Original Bitcoin. Basically that means its con is also an impostor like Craig. I couldn't believe my eyes but I will have to understand if he bought BSV after its hit its ATH he would try to defend it. It common for facebook users to believe Craig as satoshi than the people in bitcointalk because its in social media that they can convince someone.

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January 25, 2020, 04:56:58 PM
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Reasons to be bullish on BitcoinSV

There is no reasons. BSV is a copy of Bitcoin. It is also a blockchain copy, that is only reason is so much talk about it. Sole reason it exist is to make Bitcoin holders richer.  On long term there is no way any copy/paste of Bitcoin will survive, since they are not fundamentally different. There are 10000 such coins. Many already dead.
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Reasons to be bullish on BitcoinSV

There is no reasons. BSV is a copy of Bitcoin. It is also a blockchain copy, that is only reason is so much talk about it. Sole reason it exist is to make Bitcoin holders richer.  On long term there is no way any copy/paste of Bitcoin will survive, since they are not fundamentally different. There are 10000 such coins. Many already dead.

The only reason anyone is even talking about this coin is Craig Wright. For whatever reason, there's a large group of people out there that believe everything he and his team say and hang on every word. If it weren't for him, we probably wouldn't even be talking about BSV right now. I think eventually people will get tired of all of the manipulation coming from his side and get away from this thing once and for all.
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January 26, 2020, 02:02:56 AM
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non of this reasons really makes BSV superior to other projects
its just some stuff you can tell about 100 other coins
in other hand i can give you a long list of things that tells you why NOT to be bullish on BitcoinSV
that you can not tell about other legit projects.
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January 26, 2020, 08:45:21 AM
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Reasons to be bullish on BitcoinSV

There is no reasons. BSV is a copy of Bitcoin. It is also a blockchain copy, that is only reason is so much talk about it. Sole reason it exist is to make Bitcoin holders richer.  On long term there is no way any copy/paste of Bitcoin will survive, since they are not fundamentally different. There are 10000 such coins. Many already dead.

The only reason anyone is even talking about this coin is Craig Wright. For whatever reason, there's a large group of people out there that believe everything he and his team say and hang on every word. If it weren't for him, we probably wouldn't even be talking about BSV right now. I think eventually people will get tired of all of the manipulation coming from his side and get away from this thing once and for all.

Yeah maybe there is still a group of people who are still talking about BSV and that is part of a large group so prices can be manipulated by them so this can happen with the increase.
Craig Wright was able to awaken BSV and investor confidence was focused on him so that many glanced from small traders to large.
Will BSV last long at the current price or just drop in the next few months?

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January 26, 2020, 09:16:02 AM
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Outside of all these factors, which do not really make Bitcoin SV a serious project, Bitcoin SV is still nothing but a fork of Bitcoin Cash which is also a fork of the original and one and only Bitcoin. Bitcoin SV belongs to a much lower rank. It should be competing with Bitcoin Cash rather than Bitcoin itself.

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January 26, 2020, 10:17:48 AM
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Huh ?
U crazy enough to believe it happen, or u actually crazy saying BSV will be the obvious winner of the protocol wars.
or u get a bsv trap by buying it on the high price.
I think this guy is psychologically unstable when investing. Most new investors often get fomo from the technology of a certain coin and they do not understand the technology. Every day they are cheering in crowded groups to promote the coin, but they do not know that they are tolerating the whales preparing to manipulate prices. For me, BSV is nothing real. everything was created by the imagination of the community and the price increase was due to the manipulation of Craigt. It is best not to join the BSV, invest safely.

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January 26, 2020, 12:19:45 PM
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*snip*

I think in hindsight BSV will be the obvious winner of the protocol wars.


Or have you though if the possibility that you have been lied to you? Maybe check all the earlier debunked claims that Graig has done and ask yourself which outcome is more probable.

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January 26, 2020, 02:05:05 PM
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Government compliant? Where on earth did this happen? You do realise the founder is in court right now right?

Aims to work with existing establishments and yet also claims is closest protocol to original bitcoin. Did you read the whitepaper and where does it say this original intention is to work with existing establishments? Did we forget what Bitcoin was meant to do?

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January 26, 2020, 02:31:35 PM
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Can't wait till all you bozos FOMO in at the top when you realized you've been duped
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 Did we forget what Bitcoin was meant to do?
Would you enlighten us?
 

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January 26, 2020, 03:29:51 PM
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Can't wait till all you bozos FOMO in at the top when you realized you've been duped
Not going to happen to me but I don't know to some other people because it seems like they are being manipulated by something that makes them to hype this coin. People should see where is the owner of this coin and what is he doing. I don't think everyone knows that the owner is the faketoshi claiming to be the real Satoshi.

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January 26, 2020, 04:06:05 PM
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We all know what is the  current situation  is going on in Bitcoin SV because those things have helped lot of hype to Bitcoin SV and those drama still it is continuing untill Bitcoin SV trap more investor into Bitcoin SV until we get many updates and news about Bitcoin SV so we have to stay away from Bitcoin SV because it is not safe for investor funds.

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