Bitcoin in Silence

[Debonaire217]

I was criticized before about believing in bitcoin and its potential to become profitable as I do some work and browsing in some place where I usually work. By participating in this forum and trading using various exchanges, some of my colleagues, family, and friends ask me why I believe in a volatile currency that they consider a bubble, an investment that aims to fool people.

Taking all these criticism enables me to remain patient and continue investing and doing work such as bounties and campaigns. I realized, bitcoin do really is full of scam and frauds way back before when I haven't seen the beauty of it yet. I have joined many campaigns, lose more than 50 dollars in trading and investment but I didn't stop.

I was about to quit crypto and bitcoin after a big decline in 2018, as I can remember, the price is ranging from about $3000 - $3500 Where I bought almost all my savings prior when the price is more than $5000.

Lately, I realized that it was all my fault, I've entered this opportunity with a mindset of easy money. I've tried to watch youtube videos about trading and honestly, I have a bit of a hard time understanding tools and marget graphs. This is where I accepted the fact that it is not my faith, trading is for those who have much time, that is why I quit it, having a mindset that diversifying my investment in different time frame would be better. I buy bitcoin weekly, store it in the most safest wallet possible (hardware), and keep in mind that if we couldn't trade, finding another possible way to earn is the best way.

I sticked in campaigns (particularly weekly campaigns) and save as many bitcoin as possible. I wait patiently and I think $9k market price is quite profitable already.

So I help to pay bills in our home, buy necessary things I need, and support myself without the help of my parents. That is what other's saw in which I find an achievement. All criticism turns into opportunities that I am happy about as I've helped to induce market adoption in bitcoin.

so for us who thinks quitting upon criticism, doing bitcoin related stuffs in silence is what we need, rather than pushing people to believe as they will just resist and counter you back with bitcoin being scam and fraud.

I hope you learn something about my bitcoin experience. Thank you for reading.

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[MURONDI]

trading is for those who have much time

that is not true, trading can be adjusted to your time, if you are a busy person and don't have much time you can choose long term trading, You can trade once a week or even once a month, even the day traders can still trade even if they don't have much time, I am sure, there are no traders who trade every second unless they use trading bots.

[Getmon]

And how do your critics feel now?

Do they still continue with their doubts over Bitcoin or they have already changed feathers and are now one of us?

Sometimes, these instances is also an opportunity for you to prove them wrong and enlightening them. Many people still need to be educated as to what Bitcoin truly is.

[Hustinog]

trading is for those who have much time

that is not true, trading can be adjusted to your time, if you are a busy person and don't have much time you can choose long term trading, You can trade once a week or even once a month, even the day traders can still trade even if they don't have much time, I am sure, there are no traders who trade every second unless they use trading bots.

I agree with your thoughts I also believe that trading is not just for those people who are not busy because if you trade then probably you might give extra time on it for you to be able to trade to its fullest right? Trading is just a matter of fact that you want to earn money so you are doing it, it is just going to work you need to give extra time on it for you to earn. There are long-term trading just like an investments that has a longtern in which you can trade once a week if you are really busy.

[Insanerman]

You don't need to worry so much about what other people think of you especially when you are dealing with a new technology that not everyone can benefit because they are too lazy enough to discover the opportunities that awaits them. You just cannot force people to have the same mindset as yours due to the ignorance of the advancement of the technology which can make a positive impact to each and everyone of us.

You also gotta be careful when you are talking about BTC when it reaches another all time high or an amount where everyone gets excited because you are making yourself prone to The $5 Wrench Attack.

Well I think you have done a good move especially when people are discouraging you, instead of being a crybaby in the cryptospace you help yourself to make a better change and prove to them that BTC is a junk investment that aims to fool people.

The sad truth is that the people whom you considered who will support you are the most often who will not believe in your vision. And most of time the people you do not personally know or did not expecting to offer some help are the ones who will believe in you first  

[Linkkoin]

trading is for those who have much time

that is not true, trading can be adjusted to your time, if you are a busy person and don't have much time you can choose long term trading, You can trade once a week or even once a month, even the day traders can still trade even if they don't have much time, I am sure, there are no traders who trade every second unless they use trading bots.

Even better - you can even trade manually literally 3-4 times per year if you sold/bought close to peak/bottom and make a few hundred percents of ROI within even a couple of months.

[Latviand]

trading is for those who have much time

that is not true, trading can be adjusted to your time, if you are a busy person and don't have much time you can choose long term trading, You can trade once a week or even once a month, even the day traders can still trade even if they don't have much time, I am sure, there are no traders who trade every second unless they use trading bots.

Even better - you can even trade manually literally 3-4 times per year if you sold/bought close to peak/bottom and make a few hundred percents of ROI within even a couple of months.

Maybe he is referring to being updated with the market value of a crypto. One investor could freely trade whenever he would want to, but, there are hours where market value are increasing which is a must not be missed, for small time traders. Also, in such way , a trader would be able to trade to the fullest, which also means that profit will be bigger than to just wait for the 'total' increase or period of increase just to earn profit.

[TravelMug]

Well there will always be critics, so you really need to be resilient and just quiet about your bitcoin or crypto investments. I have the same experience as yours, 2018, the f**k, the price is down to $3k, I wanted to quit. But I think long term, that's why I didn't listen from people around.

And the same people today are now asking about my bitcoin journey, and I will just say that it's been a 'so-so' journey and that's it, I keep silent and I don't tell what's going on with my investments.

[joniboini]

if you sold/bought close to peak/bottom and make a few hundred percents of ROI

If it was that easy, I believe lots of people are rich now.
Believing is good but you need to prepare for the worst. Crypto is still young and anything can happen. Don't do something stupid like finding a loan to buy Bitcoin when you can't even pay 1/10th of the loan on time.

[Finestream]

Just don't mind those critics, maybe they don't fully understand what is bitcoin so they are so negative with it.
It is said that bitcoin is risky, therefore only people who are risk takers are taking the risk by investing on it, and you are one of the risk takers.

Don't worry, you'll eventually make good profit in the long run as long as you continue to hold, we are still in the early stage so there's still a bigger room for improvement.

[Kemarit]

And how do your critics feel now?

Do they still continue with their doubts over Bitcoin or they have already changed feathers and are now one of us?

If they are truly a critics then I would understand that they can change their stance seeing that the price or adoption is growing. But if they are a complete hater, regardless of bitcoin going from $3,000-$100,000, they wouldn't understand a thing because they are going to be closed minded.

Sometimes, these instances is also an opportunity for you to prove them wrong and enlightening them. Many people still need to be educated as to what Bitcoin truly is.

For me, there's nothing to proved, Bitcoin has been with us for the last ten years, and we all know that it will continue for the next decade or so. Let them discover the benefits of having Bitcoin and let them discover the opportunity and benefit they can get from investing on it.

[samcrypto]

There’s a lot of doubt in bitcoin before and if you are here on the last decade I’m sure you experience this one. I just love the situation now where my critics becomes my friends and now starting to believe on bitcoin, the fun fact here is that, they are more active now compare to my crypto activities. I’m glad you didn’t bother to listen to them, I mean you didn’t stop believing on bitcoin and its blockchain technology.

[Asmonist]

It can never be where it is right now if it doesn't been useful as how we utilize it right now. Those critics are people who don't know or not open to learn about it. Its better to continue what we do in earning it in silence than wasting our time with those useless critics. If they do not accept the fact about earning bitcoin is real, then they'll just watch you getting richer each day.

[LogitechMouse]

I want to give my opinion in every part that you said because we are experiencing almost the same but.. yeah.

I was criticized before about believing in bitcoin and its potential to become profitable as I do some work and browsing in some place where I usually work. By participating in this forum and trading using various exchanges, some of my colleagues, family, and friends ask me why I believe in a volatile currency that they consider a bubble, an investment that aims to fool people.

Fuck those who are doesn't have the right to criticize what you are doing. I know we are living in the same country and I know how our countrymen thinks. "THEY HAVE AN EMPLOYEE MINDSET AND NOT AN INVESTOR MINDSET" and that is the reason why some or most of the people you know are criticizing you. Fuck them and don't even listen to them. If you know that you are doing the right thing then just continue it.

I sticked in campaigns (particularly weekly campaigns) and save as many bitcoin as possible. I wait patiently and I think $9k market price is quite profitable already.

When I saw that altcoin bounty campaigns isn't profitable for me anymore then that is the time that I decided to try my luck in Bitcoin paid campaigns and then when yolodice accepted me, I decided to just focus on this campaign and not on altcoins anymore. For one and a half year, I focused on my current signature campaign since I saw that I can earn more Bitcoin here. Thanks to yolodice, I have earned some money to be used to invest into other investments like stocks and bonds.

So I help to pay bills in our home, buy necessary things I need, and support myself without the help of my parents. That is what other's saw in which I find an achievement. All criticism turns into opportunities that I am happy about as I've helped to induce market adoption in bitcoin.

When I started joining altcoin bounties, I have earned enough to buy my own smartphone.
When I started joining Bitcoin paid signature campaign, I have earned enough to buy my own computer and traveled with my couple last year.
I also started to give some money for my sister who is now studying.

Take all of their criticism to an inspiration and just focus on what you are doing as long as you are happy with it. I don't share what I'm doing since nobody will understand it so it will be useless even I share it.

[Linkkoin]

if you sold/bought close to peak/bottom and make a few hundred percents of ROI

If it was that easy, I believe lots of people are rich now.
Believing is good but you need to prepare for the worst. Crypto is still young and anything can happen. Don't do something stupid like finding a loan to buy Bitcoin when you can't even pay 1/10th of the loan on time.

I agree with your opinion that we must be prepared with all the worst possibilities that can happen. My friend has experienced this bad thing, he invested quite a lot without thinking about bad possibilities. Than finally he lost quite a lot of eth when mid-2018

Well, many people first heard about cryptocurrencies during the last ATH for alts BTC and decided to take loans to buy them close to the peak. Greed blinded them.

[YuginKadoya]

Trading can be done even in a slight time that you got, there are two kinds of trading and that is night trading and day trading if you don't have time with a long and agonizing wait in long term trading the night trading you can sure try day trading the trading of short-term price fluctuation, we can surely try something one our own but we need to experience it first hand before you get used to trading there will come certain failures on the way but in my opinion, you can eventually navigate and get used to it over time.

[Yatsan]

Here's the thing, at the beginning, the moment we introduce an investment to someone, they will be strike by their conscience and their defense mechanism will be activated. I know in the Philippines, there is allot of questions particularly like the phrase "Are you open minded?" and if a person hears it, they will eventually know that we are about to introduce something big, or an investment where they need to release a bit of their fund, but sadly, it turns out that this type of marketing became an entry to a ponzi pyramid scam in which bitcoin has been incorporated for a long time.

I can say, the way we introduce things to people should be different, I like the last thing that you do, that since they aren't listening to OP, he decided to remain in silence and prove them their wrong by helping them in paying bills.

As a matter of fact, to attract people, we need to basically fit to their weakness in order for us to make them believe. Because in the first place, they also have negative history regarding investment.

[Pmalek]

I stopped paying attention to what people are saying about Bitcoin. I honestly don't care. I can see that some of my close friends who were skeptical at first are slowly changing their attitude. Nobody close to me is into Bitcoin so I used to get questions like 'how are you shares doing?' or 'how many Bitcoin shares do you have now'?
Those same people have been doing a bit of research and instead of calling Bitcoin a 'company' or 'shares' I am now getting questions like: How easy is it to mine bitcoin? and 'Why are people mining'?

I think it will take long time before Bitcoin can be considered a real opponent to traditional payment methods. We have scalability issues that need to be addressed, we have high transaction fees that happen during bull runs, long confirmation times, etc etc.

But in the words of The Great Kobe Bryant: We have to keep moving, one step at a time.
Rest In Peace!   

[moviebuff777]

I rarely tell anyone about my Bitcoin investments for a couple of reasons.

First of all, most people don’t understand Bitcoin and think it’s a Ponzi scheme so I don’t want to deal with explaining my reasoning for believing in it.

Secondly, if I convince people that it’s the real deal and they invest and the price drops, they will hate me for it.

Thirdly, I want to be careful about bragging about owning Bitcoin because the IRS may want to crack down on us. Don’t get me wrong, I am fine paying taxes on my profits.  I just don’t want an IRS audit.

[Sebas.tian]

Criticism had been my watch word, doing anything in life without criticism means your aren't doing something good and profitable. Just speaking from experience, several times last few years, I was confronted from my own house about Bitcoin: guess what? They have all turned to be cryptocurrency enthusiasts and have seen the future I couldn't see in Bitcoin.

The silence of Bitcoin to me; is the best silence to be giving to an ardent doubtful mindedness being. Presently, manya who stood against Bitcoin yesterday have turn to be preachers of the good gospel of Bitcoin, because its in silence mode. The silence mean a lot to those who believed in Bitcoin. Am happy to be the very first in the family to know about Bitcoin.

[darkangel11]

If you don't have time for short trading, then you might hold your bitcoin for long term, to be honest trading is quite dificult if you don't have any knowledge. I agree with you that we don't need to tell and pushing people into bitcoin, just do what you do. Anyway I disagree that trading is only for those who have so much money, you can do trading with small capital and if you are good in predicting the market then you'll get the profit.

You can also short for long term, despite how silly it sounds. Shorting isn't like day trading where you have to be online all the time. When the asset is in a long downtrend, much like Bitcoin was in 2018, you can enter a long-term short position and wait for a reversal.
Those who don't have time should do some swing trading. It's much easier. You only look for big moves and set your buys at possible levels of support without going all in.

[hirngespenst]

My condition is almost the same as you. I have been criticizing from the beginning of the crypto journey to now. My friends and neighbors mocking on me that I did not sell at the high price, I am holding bitcoin for nothing as they believe bitcoin price will be dumped and so on negativity. I decided to tell them that I quit bitcoin things, now my focus on study only, let's do party. Now they know I am unemployed, I have no money and honestly, I am enjoying their feelings! After hanging out with them when I come to the home, I start doing Bitcoin staff until I sleep! I have a plan to gather bitcoin as much as I can, later I will show them! I tried to teach them but they ignored, so, I am happy with myself! So, let's work silently in Bitcoin and make them jealous of sorry!

[plvbob0070]

That was a fascinating story OP. I think everyone has the same initial reaction when hearing something about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Almost everyone of us might have experienced the same thing over and over as well. If others oppose what you are doing, sometimes working in silence is much better and at the end of the day, you can proudly show them that they are wrong about what they're thinking about bitcoin. You just gotta show them that they are wrong for not believing and that you made the right decision for sticking and believing in bitcoin.

Things take time and effort to learn, the same as trading. Losing is part of winning. And risking is also a part of earning. Just like what I've said, I've also experienced being doubted by your family on what I am doing but after they have seen the fruits of my hard work, they have learned to understand and support me.

[Lauren Smith]

Bitcoin is a currency not an investment. At least not in the traditional terms. Buying bitcoin means investing in the technology not in stocks. Bitcoin is not a stock ev n though it's traded like one in exchanges. Learn the difference. You will never profit if you can't learn the difference. If you invest in bitcoin to make money then I'm sorry but you deserve to lose it. Believe in the technology and invest in it. This obsession with use value will make you lose money. Besides you said you bought at 5k? What's the price now? Exactly...

You need to hang out with a higher class of people. Being brought down for your ideas is not love. Don't waste your time with people who don't love you and will put you down. They only serve as a distraction of your true goal. Never listen to others. Listen to yourself. You know what is and what is good for you. Now go there it and do it!! Believe in yourself!!

[electronicash]

i once one of those people who talks about bitcoin all the time with friends. until the long bear market ruined how they look at me since the number of scams being reported on televisions. i became silent after that since my old friends will remind me on facebook whether how i was doing. i have to defend BTC is legit and the scams are done by scammers using BTC. i never strike a conversation again about BTC and stopped sharing crypto information since, my photos where i wear some crypto designed shirts are still in my account though.

[jossiel]

I have been through the same struggle especially during the bear market. Those people that asked me to explain what bitcoin is during bull run started to act oppositely.

I cannot blame them for turning the table and going to bandwagon because of the situation of bitcoin during those times. I have decided to remain silent and every success that I achieve with the use bitcoin, I dont brag or boast it on social media. Well, I guess those people that looked down on me and probably to most of us here will start to look differently now towards bitcoin.

I'd love to taste the fruitful success of bitcoin silently but if they are to ask me about bitcoin again, I guess it wouldn't be the same treatment that I gave them before.

[CryptoBry]

Taking all these criticisms enables me to remain patient and continue investing and doing work such as bounties and campaigns. I realized, bitcoin do really is full of scam and frauds way back before when I haven't seen the beauty of it yet. I have joined many campaigns, lose more than 50 dollars in trading and investment but I didn't stop.

So for us who thinks quitting upon criticism, doing bitcoin related stuffs in silence is what we need, rather than pushing people to believe as they will just resist and counter you back with bitcoin being scam and fraud.

I am sure that your story can also be the story of many of us here in this forum. There is really that beauty and benefit of waiting for the right time. While BTC should be considered as a currency, we can not deny that many of us here are looking at it as an investment, much like the real gold. People who are not good at trading has this opportunity to hold on for Bitcoin and just wait for the right time for it to ripen and harvest some possible profits.

We also have to understand that many people have the wrong information fed on them about Bitcoin, and so they are afraid that they can be losing money...well as an investor one has to do some diligence and the same thing is rue with Bitcoin. The scams actually has nothing to do with Bitcoin just like we don't call a pyramiding scheme using the USD as its medium exchange to be a Dollar Scam. In every industry, there will always be scammers or people who are making it their business to fool others, and with the cryptocurrency industry this has become a big playground for many of them that is why we should be careful.

[lienfaye]

so for us who thinks quitting upon criticism, doing bitcoin related stuffs in silence is what we need, rather than pushing people to believe as they will just resist and counter you back with bitcoin being scam and fraud.

Indeed sometimes its better to keep mum on how you make money in crypto rather than share it to people who dont believe or thinking that btc is scam.

When I had the opportunity to earn huge amount by investing in btc year 2017 I tried to introduce it to my close friends because I want to share them how im earning. Unfortunately their first impression is not good and they discourage me to not believe everything online because its likely a scam and I will lose my money.

But I didnt listen instead I decided to keep it to myself and keep going, now im still here and enjoying the things I had because of my hard work.

[AniviaBtc]

I want to give my opinion in every part that you said because we are experiencing almost the same but.. yeah.

I was criticized before about believing in bitcoin and its potential to become profitable as I do some work and browsing in some place where I usually work. By participating in this forum and trading using various exchanges, some of my colleagues, family, and friends ask me why I believe in a volatile currency that they consider a bubble, an investment that aims to fool people.

Fuck those who are doesn't have the right to criticize what you are doing. I know we are living in the same country and I know how our countrymen thinks. "THEY HAVE AN EMPLOYEE MINDSET AND NOT AN INVESTOR MINDSET" and that is the reason why some or most of the people you know are criticizing you. Fuck them and don't even listen to them. If you know that you are doing the right thing then just continue it.

I sticked in campaigns (particularly weekly campaigns) and save as many bitcoin as possible. I wait patiently and I think $9k market price is quite profitable already.

When I saw that altcoin bounty campaigns isn't profitable for me anymore then that is the time that I decided to try my luck in Bitcoin paid campaigns and then when yolodice accepted me, I decided to just focus on this campaign and not on altcoins anymore. For one and a half year, I focused on my current signature campaign since I saw that I can earn more Bitcoin here. Thanks to yolodice, I have earned some money to be used to invest into other investments like stocks and bonds.

So I help to pay bills in our home, buy necessary things I need, and support myself without the help of my parents. That is what other's saw in which I find an achievement. All criticism turns into opportunities that I am happy about as I've helped to induce market adoption in bitcoin.

When I started joining altcoin bounties, I have earned enough to buy my own smartphone.
When I started joining Bitcoin paid signature campaign, I have earned enough to buy my own computer and traveled with my couple last year.
I also started to give some money for my sister who is now studying.

Take all of their criticism to an inspiration and just focus on what you are doing as long as you are happy with it. I don't share what I'm doing since nobody will understand it so it will be useless even I share it.

Bitcoin is in silence and in a constant movement because it is lying on its break. The demand is not that high because many people aren't believing on the potential of bitcoin to become the universal digital currency. If that happens, maybe the demand becomes high, most especially when people are determined to buy and sell bitcoin quickly. Despite of many criticism, they can't put bitcoin down on the list. We all know that it is the most populat and most efficient digital currency around the world, although it is very volatile.

[Ridwan Fauzi]

Good story here from you, and I make a conclusion if there is someone who tried to know more how bitcoin before then he will back again although he has lost his money in the past. Many people there who got lost their money but they never come back again and make a judgment that cryptocurrency especially bitcoin is scam but that is not true. They just need instant profit and spent a lot of money but they just fall to lost it is horrible thing.

Actually, I'm not someone who has spent a lot of money to bitcoin and never got big profit from it. I just spend my saving money and store them on bitcoin with my hoping the money will increase, although I never targeted how long it be. With those thing I can be able to having more patient, letting my money decrease when bitcoin fall and I wasn't tempted to sell them when bitcoin got increased. Because I believe bitcoin will be useful in the future and I can proud to many people there who haven't had any bitcoin especially some people around me who underestimate again bitcoin in the past.

[maxreish]

That's quite inspiring. The criticisms you have received made you a strong person now. See, you have been motivated and determined by your own goals and that is to proved that you are right about Bitcoin. I can't blame you for thinking that Bitcoin is an easy quick money, well at least you have realized that it is not. Since it is volatile and there is no particular sure time when will it boom.

The moment we entered here, we should be ready with all the risks. Now you have learned your lesson and guess its's not only you but we (bitcoin holders) had learned too from our previous believes and mistakes. Let's just continue to grow inside. Bitcoin is a good investment, just know "when" to buy and sell.

[Soots]

And how do your critics feel now?

Do they still continue with their doubts over Bitcoin or they have already changed feathers and are now one of us?

If they are truly a critics then I would understand that they can change their stance seeing that the price or adoption is growing. But if they are a complete hater, regardless of bitcoin going from $3,000-$100,000, they wouldn't understand a thing because they are going to be closed minded.

Or perhaps they are neither a critic nor a hater. I have encountered a lot of people who are discouraging me to use Bitcoin and get involved in it. But they do not know what they are talking about. Their basis is some poor information they got probably from social media and some friends who are as ignorant as them. They simply need someone to give them proper education on it.

right, most of those who enter the head are negative news about bitcoin, so they are afraid to learn it. they are afraid without understanding, and I think this is like a fool, because they don't open their minds widely

An ignorant man is no fool really. He simply needs to be informed or to be enlightened. The problem is that they knew or have heard or read Bitcoin first from sources that are not reliable, and they failed on digging up some more that is why they stayed ignorant. Well, if they closed their minds on the process, they are fools. But if they are still open for more elucidating information, they are still potential Bitcoin supporters.

The biggest investors which I considered whales isn't vocal about this, and it remained so confidential along the developments of cryptocurrency around the world. Their ability to be discreet about the raging challenges in bitcoin, made them more observant on the recent market changes.
We can't have an accurate predictions each time the value of bitcoin changes, so it's better to stay calm and just wait for future price outbreak which is very surprising.

[qiwoman2]

I am glad you stuck with it, when I nearly lost everything in 2018 that I had worked for in 2105-2018, I felt very sad and discouraged, but because I really believe in the decentralization movement and the power to create your destiny in a more creative economic setting, I stuck with it and am slowly crawling away from ground zero again. I also take my salary now in Bitcoin and when I get time, I trade as well. I think this year might be a better year from the last two I had. I nearly lost all my shirts as they say, but I won't give up either. Thank you for your encouraging post, good for others to see and take note.

[Getmon]

And how do your critics feel now?

Do they still continue with their doubts over Bitcoin or they have already changed feathers and are now one of us?

If they are truly a critics then I would understand that they can change their stance seeing that the price or adoption is growing. But if they are a complete hater, regardless of bitcoin going from $3,000-$100,000, they wouldn't understand a thing because they are going to be closed minded.

Or perhaps they are neither a critic nor a hater. I have encountered a lot of people who are discouraging me to use Bitcoin and get involved in it. But they do not know what they are talking about. Their basis is some poor information they got probably from social media and some friends who are as ignorant as them. They simply need someone to give them proper education on it.

right, most of those who enter the head are negative news about bitcoin, so they are afraid to learn it. they are afraid without understanding, and I think this is like a fool, because they don't open their minds widely

An ignorant man is no fool really. He simply needs to be informed or to be enlightened. The problem is that they knew or have heard or read Bitcoin first from sources that are not reliable, and they failed on digging up some more that is why they stayed ignorant. Well, if they closed their minds on the process, they are fools. But if they are still open for more elucidating information, they are still potential Bitcoin supporters.

The biggest investors which I considered whales isn't vocal about this, and it remained so confidential along the developments of cryptocurrency around the world. Their ability to be discreet about the raging challenges in bitcoin, made them more observant on the recent market changes.
We can't have an accurate predictions each time the value of bitcoin changes, so it's better to stay calm and just wait for future price outbreak which is very surprising.

There are big investors who are silent as there are also big investors who are vocal about their support of Bitcoin. But I suspect that most of them are silent about Bitcoin because it is still on the process of being openly accepted by most countries and traditional institutions. There are investors who have just opened ip about their Bitcoin investment even if they have already been maintaining a huge Bitcoin portfolio for a long time.

But I think the big investors should be the ones who will talk and discuss about it if they want the whole world to lend an ear. I guess one of the main reasons why they kept quiet all this time is that Bitcoin is still treated as a revolutionary currency which is built to dismantle the current system of which they are a part.

[Reid]

That is one great story.
I love it.
I am sorry I lack the sMerits to give you. I have not much in my account. I hope you appreciate even just 1.
Thank you for the nice story.

I then realized at the end I have the same sad story as yours.
But I didn't stop at cultivating my friends with information even just little by little.
Somehow it did work.

Yes, we could stay in silence but after some time it suffocates you. You just want to share it with someone.
Well, thanks to this forum we could do that. We can share with co-bitcoin enthusiast which also understands us.
But there is a difference when you explain it physically with someone. Emotions will burst out.

Good luck to everything that you will do.

[LUCKMCFLY]

~snip~

Many people end up disappointing in the end, and it is understandable, in all markets what most plays are emotions, maybe understanding the market in many people is not enough, most when they enter the world of Bitcoin they want to become fast millionaires and not It is so, it is incorrect, everything has a process, both learning and experience, it is always necessary to try to learn to understand the market, not only at a technical level but at a fundamental level.

Today, Bitcoin represents for many the successful way out of the crisis, especially in countries with high inflation, when it handles Bitcoin it frees itself from a large yoke imposed by banks and governments, a deflationary economy full of opportunities compared to the traditional centralized economy really earns what That is more accessible for people, bitcoin for many represents freedom and the best solution. Great experience he has told, I recommend you read some books like Jesse Livermore's, who was a great speculator who learned to understand the market and got rich 5 times and 4 times lost everything, it is exceptional.

[peter0425]

That's quite inspiring. The criticisms you have received made you a strong person now. See, you have been motivated and determined by your own goals and that is to proved that you are right about Bitcoin. I can't blame you for thinking that Bitcoin is an easy quick money, well at least you have realized that it is not. Since it is volatile and there is no particular sure time when will it boom.

we all did mate,all of us at first think this is just a quick profit(though there are few that has different opinion and plans)because many of us starts to enter crypto when the price is in hype or in growth .

The moment we entered here, we should be ready with all the risks. Now you have learned your lesson and guess its's not only you but we (bitcoin holders) had learned too from our previous believes and mistakes. Let's just continue to grow inside. Bitcoin is a good investment, just know "when" to buy and sell.

yeah but in case we are really devoted to invest here?let us learn when to buy only and forget about selling because we need to invest here our spare money as we can risk to lose,so forgetting about our crypto asset is really a best way of investing for long term.

[Murat]

It's almost the same here guys, when I have introduced to the people who around me about the blockchain system and especially of Bitcoin then nothing came to me in an easy way, most of the people didn't even believe this invention for their own purpose, So I have heard from many people who have faced such type wired experience regarding this issue, forget about those faces, just hold on Bitcoin for another months and make money by this way and show those people how to make money and how to grab the opportunity for your own.

[White Christmas]

Too many people criticize what they don't understand, they think bitcoin is over and never going to grow again or it's now too expensive and they use this to sell scam coin to the public. But bitcoin has proven time and times again that they are all wrong.

They are just judging bitcoin so early and more likely those people who are doing this are those who are beginners and doesn't have any experience on the real situation of dump of bitcoin that anytime that bitcoin dumps it is likely a soaring phoenix that is soaring high or pumping so high.
Bitcoin already proven it's fluctuating side in which it really depends on the situation of market if it is good or bad. this probably will prove again that bitcoin is very strong enough to stand alone in all ages.

[Yamifoud]

The people surround us have different appreciations towards the market, some may say that crypto is a scam and while the others you're on the right path.  And I understand that some people would always be thinking negatively towards the crypto cause in the first, they'll never know about it and most probably they are wrong. This could be an endless debate about different ideas with only their basis is what they have heard in the news.

Better not to go through along them and even we give some explanations and corrections, they will stand even they are wrong. We know already how the market works, and so we don't need to bother if they don't believe us.

[Bim abk]

Too many people criticize what they don't understand, they think bitcoin is over and never going to grow again or it's now too expensive and they use this to sell scam coin to the public. But bitcoin has proven time and times again that they are all wrong.

They are just judging bitcoin so early and more likely those people who are doing this are those who are beginners and doesn't have any experience on the real situation of dump of bitcoin that anytime that bitcoin dumps it is likely a soaring phoenix that is soaring high or pumping so high.
Bitcoin already proven it's fluctuating side in which it really depends on the situation of market if it is good or bad. this probably will prove again that bitcoin is very strong enough to stand alone in all ages.

experience makes us know information that has been experienced, and also will not easily believe in someone's perspective. so when there are comments about the price of bitcoin, then we already know that circulation continues to spin and we can take advantage of these price movements.

[rodskee]

It's almost the same here guys, when I have introduced to the people who around me about the blockchain system and especially of Bitcoin then nothing came to me in an easy way, most of the people didn't even believe this invention for their own purpose, So I have heard from many people who have faced such type wired experience regarding this issue, forget about those faces, just hold on Bitcoin for another months and make money by this way and show those people how to make money and how to grab the opportunity for your own.

don't lose hope mate,if we are really here to help the Market then it is our way to encourage them and not just to walk away when they deny your prepositions,remember that there are tons of scams going in the internet so people might think this is another one but in time,when they found out that you are living from your gains here then their mind will change and ask you to teach them.

[Betwrong]

~
I sticked in campaigns (particularly weekly campaigns) and save as many bitcoin as possible. I wait patiently and I think $9k market price is quite profitable already.
~

That's right, but, please, don't sell all of your coins at once. I'm not trying to say that BTC will definitely go to it's new ATH in the nearest future, but it's quite possible that $12k will be crossed soon. I can understand that you may probably need the money right now, so, I would suggest you to cash out 20%  or 30% of what you have, but not more than that. Then sell another part, but only after spending everything from the previous cash out.

[hatshepsut93]

There's a lot of other advantages to keeping quiet about your coins - you'll be less likely to get robbed, or attract unwanted attention from officials, and you won't have to experience your family and friends begging you for money once Bitcoin reaches moon, like it happens with lottery winners. Plus you won't be held responsible for any mistakes those people make if they will decide to start with Bitcoin because of you.

[Twentyonepaylots]

I am glad you stuck with it, when I nearly lost everything in 2018 that I had worked for in 2105-2018, I felt very sad and discouraged, but because I really believe in the decentralization movement and the power to create your destiny in a more creative economic setting, I stuck with it and am slowly crawling away from ground zero again. I also take my salary now in Bitcoin and when I get time, I trade as well. I think this year might be a better year from the last two I had. I nearly lost all my shirts as they say, but I won't give up either. Thank you for your encouraging post, good for others to see and take note.

These are some inspiring stories to hear. Really happy that you guys stuck in the ride and continued pursuing bitcoin despite the negativities that you have experienced. This is the best thing about setting up proper expectations when you're promoting or recommending bitcoin to people. If you haven't been in the impression that bitcoin's not a get-rich scheme there's no telling where we'll be at right now.

[BITCOIN4X]

~snip

This is another great story that silences others criticisms of the bitcoin lover community in the world.

I have heard of success stories where a friend of mine was considered a crazy person by others in the community because of bitcoin. But who would have thought, he managed to get what he wanted because of bitcoin, buy something he could never buy and change his lifestyle and improve economic status because of bitcoin.

I know that bitcoin has brought huge changes in the economy of its community throughout the world, and this is a positive impact that can be enjoyed by the community and now I feel the same even though it is only a small percentage.

But the thing that should always be our consideration is, the risks that exist in bitcoin. This applies to investment, trade and security. There are still many cases that occur, losses due to lack of knowledge and experience in investment and trading and losses due to lost or stolen assets and I think this is an issue that we should always consider as bitcoin users.

[supercanada1]

I am glad you stuck with it, when I nearly lost everything in 2018 that I had worked for in 2105-2018, I felt very sad and discouraged, but because I really believe in the decentralization movement and the power to create your destiny in a more creative economic setting, I stuck with it and am slowly crawling away from ground zero again. I also take my salary now in Bitcoin and when I get time, I trade as well. I think this year might be a better year from the last two I had. I nearly lost all my shirts as they say, but I won't give up either. Thank you for your encouraging post, good for others to see and take note.

I guess that goes for everyone who went through 2018 and the start of 2019. Though you can't really  blame people for being critical if they've seen how btc dropped drastically from ath. If i was someone who don't know much about btc, i'd pretty much be on the criticizing end as well. But it is how it is and we know what we're doing with our money so we make calculated risks.

if you take the credit of success for yourself by saying you have adopted good strategies, you have ability to loose knowledge, do the same when you fail. The risks in the market are not surprise for you, you should better calculate the risks first in this way you will not be disappointed. This makes you more able to deal with the situation in a better way. I would also say that do not criticize on the market for its dumps that is the built in quality of Bitcoin.

[xiboothrezi]

~
I hope you learn something about my bitcoin experience. Thank you for reading.

You have learned life lessons that are very important and one thing I have learned from you is not to give up easily. I also received a lot of criticism when choosing to resign from my work in early 2018, and chose to focus on being a trader and bounty hunter. Criticism was enough to shake my decision, but this is my choice, I can more freely express myself in doing work as a freelancer. Of course, it is not easy because afterwards there has been a lot of downturn in the market and many bounty campaigns have scams, not in line with expectations like most successful bounties in 2017. However, I have persevered and are more selective, the proof is still very profitable. The key is to keep learning from mistakes and don't give up easily, and don't forget to be always grateful.

[kawetsriyanto]

~~I also received a lot of criticism when choosing to resign from my work in early 2018, and chose to focus on being a trader and bounty hunter.~~

I guess the hardest criticism must come from family, not other people. And we cannot blame them to criticize because we know that they have good intentions. I bet most people think that it is too risky for you and have an unclear future. Correct?

~~Criticism was enough to shake my decision, but this is my choice, I can more freely express myself in doing work as a freelancer.~~

True. However, it is your own decision. And never regret that decision. Sometimes it won't be easy to face, especially in the beginning and with that condition in 2018. But finally, you see that crypto market is improving and the value of Bitcoin getting higher. You must have big profits if you bought your Bitcoin asset in 2018.      

[Youghoor]

trading is for those who have much time

that is not true, trading can be adjusted to your time, if you are a busy person and don't have much time you can choose long term trading, You can trade once a week or even once a month, even the day traders can still trade even if they don't have much time, I am sure, there are no traders who trade every second unless they use trading bots.

I think  Debonaire217 was refering to daily trading as in people who trading when there is a small change in the market value of Bitcoin. And moreover, long term trading is usually referred to as long term investment rather than trading. For daily trading, you need huge amount of time in order to make some significant amount of profit.

[rodskee]

Bitcoin in Silence?
If you are too quiet, for an extended period of time, then people you know will think you gave up.

read the thread and not the topic.

Well, some people are still yet to realize the potential of Bitcoin and besides, trading is not that hard as speculated here. if you cannot do daily, you can go long and close your chart without looking at it daily. I hope your experience will make them change their mind?

there are ways in investing here and what people referring as Risky and hard is the DayTrading because this is not so easy task and you can lose in time after time if you are not that great in analyzing and speculating.

but your advice in the end is better,But coins let is sit in your wallet and just leave it there,dont think for that much and almost forget it like what the early adopters did.

[tbterryboy]

You’re 100% right about this. This is something that a lot of people don’t know. If you’re into a business it should be between yourself and those that are into the same thing and believes, not people that are not.

There are people who has read about Bitcoin and the media has made them to believe that Bitcoin and other things cryptocurrency are scam, and has even given them strong reasons to believe such. So trying to convince such won’t work, they will try to even make you lose interest in cryptocurrency investment. Best for you to just believe and work in silence and let your result speak for you.

[Reatim]

you must not care about what other people say about your crypto engagement because first it is not their money and time you are spending and risking ,second they don't really know what they are talking about and third?they are the one who will regret everything when time comes that success comes to your way and right after?let them see your profit to make them realized what they missed.

[vinc3]

"ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE THINGS YOU CAN DO IS PAY ATTENTION TO THE WRONG PEOPLE"
LOUBIS - AND - CHAMPAGNE

I can feel you man, yet the above quote got me last 2016, those were the time that ethereum is at $10, I listen to my friend who is a doctor. To cut the story short I didn't push through so I potentially lost a sum of money, yet still I am thankful that I am still here and still believing in this market, I know eventually I can hit  what I truly deserve a good life for my family and get out of this rat race. I am very positive that we here at bitcointalk wanted to succeed not just for ourselves but most especially for those who we love.

The only real thing that a father needs to do is bring steak to the table-- anything else is an add-on.-- Vinc3

[Debonaire217]

Bitcoin in Silence?
If you are too quiet, for an extended period of time, then people you know will think you gave up.

Being quite and silent while doing cryptocurrency and bitcoin related stuffs is what we need if the people surrounds you doesn't really care about what you are saying. Basically, instead of speaking to much about attracting these people, I've decided to work in silence and I let the output speaks what I want them to understand, and that is to tell them the value of cryptocurrency, and why people should take it as a big deal and change their way how they look upon it from the very first time.

But considerably, if you are already have a good reputation, then why not use it to attract people with words right?

Most of the time, we wonder why bitcoin isn't still adopted yet despite of the fact that people are getting rich already through bitcoin, in my opinion, the reason is because of the people misusing their capability to tell the truth and spread words about bitcoin. In particular, those that are mainly focusing on their personal interest.

[slaman29]

You have learned life lessons that are very important and one thing I have learned from you is not to give up easily. I also received a lot of criticism when choosing to resign from my work in early 2018, and chose to focus on being a trader and bounty hunter. Criticism was enough to shake my decision, but this is my choice, I can more freely express myself in doing work as a freelancer. Of course, it is not easy because afterwards there has been a lot of downturn in the market and many bounty campaigns have scams, not in line with expectations like most successful bounties in 2017. However, I have persevered and are more selective, the proof is still very profitable. The key is to keep learning from mistakes and don't give up easily, and don't forget to be always grateful.

Well, I would say that the other life lesson that maybe could be even more important is knowing when to give up.

I'm not giving up on Bitcoin for sure, but if the worse scenario happens and some reason I can't think of happens that makes it worthless, I have to give up.

And trading, I learnt very quickly to give up luckily because not only do I suck at it, I don't believe there are actually ANY good people at it.

[jossiel]

Bitcoin in Silence?
If you are too quiet, for an extended period of time, then people you know will think you gave up.

It's base on their perspective but with our perspective.

We just hate to argue with them or talk about it anymore because there's always the same answer that they'll throw to us. And that answer is an indirect assault to us because that's what they want to see, they want to see us struggle.

But little did they know that we just chose to be quiet so that there's no more stressful arguments and we want to enjoy the every successful moving up of bitcoin quietly.

[Betwrong]

~
Well, I would say that the other life lesson that maybe could be even more important is knowing when to give up.
~

It has always been a big question for me personally. Some people gave up one year ago when the price went below $3,500, and now we can see that they weren't right in doing so. I can't imagine a scenario when I would give up, because it's either too early, like in the latter example, or it's too late, meaning that the price is so small that cashing out makes little sense.

[Oasisman]

to be honest trading is quite dificult if you don't have any knowledge. I agree with you that we don't need to tell and pushing people into bitcoin, just do what you do.

Pretty sure everything would be difficult without enough knowledge. People will become interested to something where money is involved, and Bitcoin is a bit difficult to understand If a person isn't interested in this technology in the first place.

Anyway I disagree that trading is only for those who have so much money, you can do trading with small capital and if you are good in predicting the market then you'll get the profit.

Trading is for everyone. Small capital or big capital, but you will know the difference when you compare how much profit you earn when you're trading with a huge capital.

[kotajikikox]

Your story is almost similar to mine. The first time I went into the crypto world, my parents did not believe it. And when I started making some money, they immediately supported me. That's when I got excited and until now crypto is still my choice in investing. And as you said, focus on our passion, and show what we can get.

actually it is me who don't believe bitcoin the first time i heard about this,when it was introduced to me by my uncle?i told him that don't get to close because it is scam,but after he shared his trading works and the profiting he have?also His wallet filled with Bitcoin and the conversion in our local money?i fell inlove and starts to learn and research.so after a month i entered this and bought my first Bitcoin and the following Bitcoin is those i earned from the campaign and Bounties.

[Debonaire217]

It's base on their perspective but with our perspective.

We just hate to argue with them or talk about it anymore because there's always the same answer that they'll throw to us. And that answer is an indirect assault to us because that's what they want to see, they want to see us struggle.

And basically, making ourselves busy and productive will definitely make us ignore them, becoming in silence doesn't mean you give up, remember, "a can that is empty is noisy" meaning to say that we don't really need to be pushy for others to accept our thoughts, it is psychologically effective to remain silent in a sense that they can see output that will prove them they're wrong.

[gundala]

Criticism and bad experiences will strengthen your mentality, what we need is not to give up easily and keep learning. I was also opposed by my family because I chose to focus on trading, I continued to persevere despite repeatedly wanting to give up because there was no support at all. Finally, I can provide proof that this is a potential path, I can raise capital for business in real life, finance my sister's education, etc. Although repeatedly trapped by scams, losses when trading, but I still survive and consider it all a risk. Let's fight, for all friends, and don't give up easily too.

[Baoo]

Possibly it is the silence before the storm,  I think that  Bitcoin's community or crypto in general in a continued progress and despite the bad attempts of the governments in order to destroy this technology, they even control the media but despite all of these obstacles, the era of crypto is still strong and developing in silence, we all know that there are many caracteristics of Bitcoin like , no exploition through a low value of fees..ect, and unfortunately the opposite is true for FIAT. That's why most of people are trusting Bitcoin more than their main coins.

[TheGreatPython]

Criticism and bad experiences will strengthen your mentality, what we need is not to give up easily and keep learning. I was also opposed by my family because I chose to focus on trading, I continued to persevere despite repeatedly wanting to give up because there was no support at all. Finally, I can provide proof that this is a potential path, I can raise capital for business in real life, finance my sister's education, etc. Although repeatedly trapped by scams, losses when trading, but I still survive and consider it all a risk. Let's fight, for all friends, and don't give up easily too.

No matter how many negative sides cryptocurrencies would always have but for us, it is been proven that they can make us earn a good stream of income which makes our financial lives much more stable than working in a normal 9 to 5 time routine for rest of the offline jobs.

Bitcoins would make us believe that easy money might be possible sometimes when you use most of your brain in order to execute some small interval trades, or anything like this. The ones who can survive in these markets are the ones who are yet here and unfortunately the rest might have already quit being with cryptocurrencies. Profits are higher but loss remains constant and it is what makes most of the people fear investing into bitcoins.

[RealMalatesta]

Possibly it is the silence before the storm,  I think that  Bitcoin's community or crypto in general in a continued progress and despite the bad attempts of the governments in order to destroy this technology, they even control the media but despite all of these obstacles, the era of crypto is still strong and developing in silence, we all know that there are many caracteristics of Bitcoin like , no exploition through a low value of fees..ect, and unfortunately the opposite is true for FIAT. That's why most of people are trusting Bitcoin more than their main coins.

Bitcoins have showed us immense growth and also the technology is quite advanced as compared to the normal mean of payments. Cryptocurrencies are already been experiencing a huge lot of surges which makes them low at the national financial level of currency but yet, bitcoins are been considered on the top rank in terms of earning a stable income, making some extra money and even some major coins have now started entering the mainstream payment systems. This might show us that the future for bitcoins or any other coin might already be beneficial for the community and even after the news from government of negative impact of media, cryptocurrencies would keep on developing until a new era.

[Rosilito]

Kind of late to notice this wonderful story OP. Thank you for sharing this, I find this totally an eye-opening especially for people who have been in great loss because they are looking for a space for them to sit here in crypto space; following what successful people here did, looking for the opportunity they couldn't get because of constant failures, and hostile surroundings. Truly, fortune favours the bold, it is often that people who took risks, criticism, unfortunate journeys, as a challenge to grow up will enjoy the whole benefit in the end. Thank you, for sharing this story OP, once again.

[Assface16678]

Possibly it is the silence before the storm,  I think that  Bitcoin's community or crypto in general in a continued progress and despite the bad attempts of the governments in order to destroy this technology, they even control the media but despite all of these obstacles, the era of crypto is still strong and developing in silence, we all know that there are many caracteristics of Bitcoin like , no exploition through a low value of fees..ect, and unfortunately the opposite is true for FIAT. That's why most of people are trusting Bitcoin more than their main coins.

Bitcoins have showed us immense growth and also the technology is quite advanced as compared to the normal mean of payments. Cryptocurrencies are already been experiencing a huge lot of surges which makes them low at the national financial level of currency but yet, bitcoins are been considered on the top rank in terms of earning a stable income, making some extra money and even some major coins have now started entering the mainstream payment systems. This might show us that the future for bitcoins or any other coin might already be beneficial for the community and even after the news from government of negative impact of media, cryptocurrencies would keep on developing until a new era.

We all know that the bitcoin is created with a purpose the creator of the bitcoin wants to at the future and we do not have any physical aspect of transactions and they made the bitcoin or converting the physical money into digital money so the people make a transaction easily without hassle but the journey of the bitcoin does not become easy because only a few people appreciated the use of bitcoin by the time goes by it gains a lot of popularity and investors because of the profit it gave to the people trusting on the market price on it. Even the market of the bitcoin is volatile still there are people wants to invest because they know the capability of the bitcoin to continuously grow and earn a lot of income every day comes.

[Sanugarid]

Your story is almost similar to mine. The first time I went into the crypto world, my parents did not believe it. And when I started making some money, they immediately supported me. That's when I got excited and until now crypto is still my choice in investing. And as you said, focus on our passion, and show what we can get.

actually it is me who don't believe bitcoin the first time i heard about this,when it was introduced to me by my uncle?i told him that don't get to close because it is scam,but after he shared his trading works and the profiting he have?also His wallet filled with Bitcoin and the conversion in our local money?i fell inlove and starts to learn and research.so after a month i entered this and bought my first Bitcoin and the following Bitcoin is those i earned from the campaign and Bounties.

Well, look at you now. Believing and making your own money with the knowledge you know. There are actually lots of people who don't still believe in the goodness of bitcoin. The first thing that comes into their mind when they hear about bitcoin is that it is a scam but we the users, traders, and investors can prove it to them on how actually good bitcoin to use and to buy.

Possibly it is the silence before the storm,  I think that  Bitcoin's community or crypto in general in a continued progress and despite the bad attempts of the governments in order to destroy this technology, they even control the media but despite all of these obstacles, the era of crypto is still strong and developing in silence, we all know that there are many caracteristics of Bitcoin like , no exploition through a low value of fees..ect, and unfortunately the opposite is true for FIAT. That's why most of people are trusting Bitcoin more than their main coins.

Bitcoins have showed us immense growth and also the technology is quite advanced as compared to the normal mean of payments. Cryptocurrencies are already been experiencing a huge lot of surges which makes them low at the national financial level of currency but yet, bitcoins are been considered on the top rank in terms of earning a stable income, making some extra money and even some major coins have now started entering the mainstream payment systems. This might show us that the future for bitcoins or any other coin might already be beneficial for the community and even after the news from government of negative impact of media, cryptocurrencies would keep on developing until a new era.

As time passes by, many people are now believing with bitcoin because they have seen the growth of every user and they have also seen how good it to use. Some are making investments with bitcoin and some are making trading to earn some money, some are using their knowledge by joining a particular signature campaign and promoting it in a particular social media platform. Bitcoin is silent as of now but when you look at the market it is recovering and hitting again slowly, I recommend to keep on supporting bitcoin and continue what you are doing. We are all hoping that after halving happens, it will affect the market so hard that it comes back again to its wealthiness.

[2020VISION]

I am glad you stuck with it, when I nearly lost everything in 2018 that I had worked for in 2105-2018, I felt very sad and discouraged, but because I really believe in the decentralization movement and the power to create your destiny in a more creative economic setting, I stuck with it and am slowly crawling away from ground zero again. I also take my salary now in Bitcoin and when I get time, I trade as well. I think this year might be a better year from the last two I had. I nearly lost all my shirts as they say, but I won't give up either. Thank you for your encouraging post, good for others to see and take note.

BTI still alive    weeeee

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